View Full Version : About our MAZDASPEEDs...'Just thought you would like to know...
Last week, I had my MAZDASPEED in my local alignment shop getting the rotation/balance and Mobil 1 changed. Owen Alignment - great folks! Folksy folks, as it were. (lol)
Anyway; after finishing up, the tech takes it out onto Highway 64 to check things out, and comes back shaking his head. He was blown away! He could not believe how quick my MAZDASPEED was, and the way it handled. He was very impressed. Keep it mind; the only real modification I have is the Joe P MBC & FPK, and I am running a little over 9.5 psi. Sure; I have the K&N cone filter - but nothing else. This tech was in his mid-late 20s, I would say. He said, if I ever wanted to sell it, to let him know. Ha!
So; for all of you MAZDASPEED owners that really do love your cars - forget about the naysayers. Our cars do rock! (rockon) Not that I need any convincing; I have always thought so. I have about 13,000 miles on mine now.
It's easy to be influenced when you hang around a place, forum, etc,,, where you hear more negatives than positives.
And; I will say this again, too. If your biggest concern in life is 1/4 mile drag racing - then you bought the wrong car anyway.
'Just wanted to let you all know!
Yeah!
I LOVE MY MAZDASPEED!!! (k) (k) (k)
Autox MSP
10-09-2003, 08:38 AM
uhm.... maybe hes never driven a SRT4.
ARunto
10-09-2003, 08:41 AM
lol..from the thread title I thought something went wrong...glad all is well Greg
-Alan
CruzinAltitude
10-09-2003, 08:42 AM
(peep) prepare for the onslaught!
Originally posted by Autox MSP
uhm.... maybe hes never driven a SRT4.
OH God!! Don't let this friendly thread go in the crapper by bringing that up. (nobody)
CarlM2
10-09-2003, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Autox MSP
uhm.... maybe hes never driven a SRT4.
Or, maybe he has taste and appreciates the entire car. The MSP works as one machine better than most.
pdhaudio83
10-09-2003, 09:14 AM
see- i wonder if the MSP would have beat the 'dodge car' if sport compact car turned up the boost to just under 10psi. makes ya wonder!!
Originally posted by pdhaudio
see- i wonder if the MSP would have beat the 'dodge car' if sport compact car turned up the boost to just under 10psi. makes ya wonder!!
In the 1/4? No.
pates03
10-09-2003, 10:03 AM
me loves my Spicy MSP , no matter what anyone says !
Autox MSP
10-09-2003, 10:37 AM
i love my msp..... but its really nothing special. It handles great but has the worst torque steer i've driven, also its far from fast. Its a nice looking, reilable ride. Also you dont see them often since its limited production.
jred321
10-09-2003, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Autox MSP
It handles great but has the worst torque steer i've driven, also its far from fast.
go drive a fwd dsm with some mods done (or i assume the srt does the same), then you'll feel some bad torque steer. I hardly notice it comparatively
z00mer
10-09-2003, 11:31 AM
It's amazing how much you really don't appreciate your car, until you have to drive a rental while your car is getting worked on.
I dropped mine off @ my dealership yesterday to get some work done and flashed. They gave me a 2002 baby blue Sentra auto. And let me tell you.....that thing is slow as HELL!!! And handles like crap as well. I've driven alot of cars in my life, and this one is neck and neck w/ a Neon at the bottom of the barrel.
I just can't wait to get my speed back today!! Nothing can beat its handling for the price!!!:cool:
YuYuRena
10-09-2003, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Autox MSP
i love my msp..... but its really nothing special. It handles great but has the worst torque steer i've driven, also its far from fast. Its a nice looking, reilable ride. Also you dont see them often since its limited production.
Define what you mean fast?
Ang AGR I also love my speed. Rock on bud!!!! (thumb)
yashooa
10-09-2003, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by Autox MSP
uhm.... maybe hes never driven a SRT4.
Ah one of the many "Turd Minions" piss off assboy this thread is all about MSP affection.
Yes my MSP post-flash at 12 PSI has made a great car even better.
Autox MSP
10-09-2003, 12:56 PM
almost got in to an accedent because the of torquesteer. Threw me in to another lane. The car pulls very badly. Owned a turbo civic that had 229 hp to the wheels and didn't pull that badly.
MSP does the 1/4 in mid 15secs, slow in my opinion. 14 is quick, 13 is fast. 15
MSP is a great car but don't make it sound like its a damn ferrari.
I didn't buy the car for its speed anyways, its handling and overall build quality.
jred321
10-09-2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Autox MSP
almost got in to an accedent because the of torquesteer. Threw me in to another lane. The car pulls very badly. Owned a turbo civic that had 229 hp to the wheels and didn't pull that badly.
not trying to be a dick, but that civic probably had about the same torque numbers (peak) as our car, but didn't hit them til much later, which is why you probably never felt the torque steer as much. if you drive an srt or a fwd dsm, both fairly torquey cars, the feeling would be different. you have to literally fight to keep it going straight when accelerating hard, until you get higher up in the revs.
pdhaudio83
10-09-2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by AGR
In the 1/4? No.
nono, i meant overall.
they said if the msp had just a touch more power it would have won. maybe 9.5psi would given it enough to ruin a srt in the twisties.
I think half the people that drive this car and complain about torque steer need to learn what torque steer REALLY is. I mean my car is a joke with torque steer. If you think our car is bad, you haven't driven very many FW cars imho. I've driven tons worse, with more and less power.
Originally posted by pdhaudio
nono, i meant overall.
they said if the msp had just a touch more power it would have won. maybe 9.5psi would given it enough to ruin a srt in the twisties.
Agreed! (thumb) (sorry for the confusion)
Autox MSP
10-09-2003, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by jred321
not trying to be a dick, but that civic probably had about the same torque numbers (peak) as our car, but didn't hit them til much later, which is why you probably never felt the torque steer as much. if you drive an srt or a fwd dsm, both fairly torquey cars, the feeling would be different. you have to literally fight to keep it going straight when accelerating hard, until you get higher up in the revs.
true this is has about same amount of torque but it doen't really matter because the turbo civic was easier to drive and much much faster then SRT4.
driven a 1.8t gti with a autothority chip. Torque steer was almost non existant because of the equal drive shafts.
REMillers
10-09-2003, 01:53 PM
Wow that must be the first "I Love my MazdaSpeed" copyright-AGR 2002-2003 that had a actual story in it. :)
Enjoy your cars for what you bought them for, meanwhile enjoy trying to improve upon it. And to those that constantly whine about it then move on. Get what you believe will better suit your personaliities, or work on improving what you see wrong with the car.
EVILSRT
10-09-2003, 02:07 PM
I love my car, I wouldnt change a thing about it. The only problem I had was the flash and now that it is taken care of I am more in love with this car than the day I bought it.:D:D
Originally posted by REMillers
Wow that must be the first "I Love my MazdaSpeed" copyright-AGR 2002-2003 that had a actual story in it. :)
ROFLMAO!!! (rofl) Actually: copyright-AGR 2003
REMillers
10-09-2003, 02:34 PM
Oh dang thats right we registered about the same time, in fact I came here 3 days before you :p
Yet your post count is higher :(
SPARCO3319
10-09-2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Autox MSP
almost got in to an accedent because the of torquesteer. Threw me in to another lane. The car pulls very badly. Owned a turbo civic that had 229 hp to the wheels and didn't pull that badly.
MSP does the 1/4 in mid 15secs, slow in my opinion. 14 is quick, 13 is fast. 15
MSP is a great car but don't make it sound like its a damn ferrari.
I didn't buy the car for its speed anyways, its handling and overall build quality.
the SPEED does the slalom as fast as a Ferrari... so, it IS as fast as a $200,000 car..hahaha (gossip)
Dr.Sound
10-09-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by REMillers
Oh dang thats right we registered about the same time, in fact I came here 3 days before you :p
Yet your post count is higher :(
*cough* post whore *cough*
lol, luv ya Greg :D
I LOVE MY MAZDASPEED!
spacemonkey
10-09-2003, 03:46 PM
I love my MSP!
spacemonkey
10-09-2003, 03:49 PM
Grils love the MSP and because its a 4 door sadan I can fit 4 more hotties than any other cool sports car. Just look at how roomie the back seat is. The Ladies think its like a Lexus or WRX but much better cus I see WRXs everywhere. I see Alot of EVOs too. To the point that I dont even turn my head when I see a WRX or EVO. MSP is one of a kind and I paid $7,000-$10,000 less than that fool driving the WRX or EVO. Plus, chances are I'm probally sleeping with his girl! I might loose the race in the 1/4 mile but I'll get his girl. Plus with the $7,000-$10,000 grand I saved I could invest that and smoke any WRX or EVO.
oh
Mazdaspeed Protege= BADASS
sbrucher
10-09-2003, 03:53 PM
hey guys i have a neon r/t at lease you dont own a american car like that or a caviler, or focus, or something in that line. never i repeat never but a neon i did big mistake i should of never traded my decked out civic for it my friend need to sell it he worked for a dealership and had his car on consimint well i was stupid and helped him out and peer preasure too. i drove a 2001 mp3 i liked it and i cant wait until i drive the mazda speed on the 18th if they stil ahve it. so never buy american car
Dr.Sound
10-09-2003, 04:02 PM
amen
spacemonkey
10-09-2003, 04:06 PM
The lower end neons are the worst! My uncle fanbelt or engine belt snaped with only 1500 miles on it. Plus it was cheaply made. My mom's Linclon Ls broke down and they geve her the lowest model Focus to drive...what a POS! I felt like I was going to break the thing. It drives okay but its clearly cheap quality...def not built ford tough. You can't close the trunk unless you press down on the trunk relase...WTF? We had to bring it back to the dealer cuz we couldnt figure out how to close the trunk. MSP is probally the best quality car for that price range...besides a VW Golf/GTI which my brother drives and its badass too!
kwiktsi
10-09-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by AGR
In the 1/4? No.
In the 1/4- yes :).. I have yet to personaly see an SRT 4 break out of the 14.5 range in stock form... I know there are some that claim 13.8, and it sounds right- but haven't seen it yet.. Why do you keep pushing the "it isn't a 1/4 mile car" and the "you bought the wrong car" things? It is very capable as both.. That is like me owning a shifter cart and saying "you bought the wrong car if you want handling" about the MSP :).. It is very well rounded. Hell, if you want a drag car, that is like saying anything other than a top fuel funny car is the wrong car :). What defines the "right" or "wrong" car for various activities?
Joe
Well..........Hiya JOE!!!! How ya been doin??!!
I believe he was referring to a 10 psi boosted MAZDASPEED only. And; I doubt very seriously that it would take an SRT-4 in the 1/4. Personally; I don't care, since I don't drag race.
low_psi
10-09-2003, 04:51 PM
i would love to have a MSP....
kwiktsi
10-09-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Autox MSP
almost got in to an accedent because the of torquesteer. Threw me in to another lane. The car pulls very badly. Owned a turbo civic that had 229 hp to the wheels and didn't pull that badly.
MSP does the 1/4 in mid 15secs, slow in my opinion. 14 is quick, 13 is fast. 15
MSP is a great car but don't make it sound like its a damn ferrari.
I didn't buy the car for its speed anyways, its handling and overall build quality.
Damn, you need to hold the wheel tighter :).. Was it torque-steer or did the car slide out through a turn or something?
Mid 15s? Maybe with a retarded Ray Charles driving :). And- 13's fast :)??? lol...
Joe
jred321
10-09-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by kwiktsi
And- 13's fast :)??? lol...
Joe
he's living in civic world :)
charles
10-09-2003, 05:37 PM
I LOVE MY (imaginary) MAZDASPEED
Vulcanon
10-09-2003, 05:51 PM
I love my mp3 which is your prototype msp =D
CustomMSP
10-09-2003, 07:18 PM
Ehh, my MSP could be better... :)
z00mer
10-09-2003, 07:47 PM
Well just got my MSP back from the shop today from getting flashed and some other things done.....and the car is AWSOME!!!!! Granted, it's not the fastest turboed car i've ever owned, but it sure is up there w/ my favorites!!!:p She seems to be driving (after the flash) like she was supposed to be when I first got her. And the handling just seems to have gotten better!
I don't really give sh!t about what other people or pecker-heads say about the MSP ('oh...it's too slow' or 'an SRT can still blow it away in a straight'.....), if I wanted to get a SRT-4 'Skittlewithabottleof+104shuvedupit'sassforpower'. ...I would of bought one!!!
Reguardless.....I LOVE MY SPEED!!!!
Hands down!!(bowdown)
yashooa
10-09-2003, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by kwiktsi
Damn, you need to hold the wheel tighter :).. Was it torque-steer or did the car slide out through a turn or something?
Mid 15s? Maybe with a retarded Ray Charles driving :). And- 13's fast :)??? lol...
Joe
Damn Joey Joo Ja is back with a vengeance.
yashooa
10-09-2003, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Dr.Sound
amen
Double AMEN! BRUTHA!
Geoffsurfs
10-09-2003, 08:27 PM
it is the best overall car for the money period!
Oh yeah, the neon sux.
KyRaceFan
10-09-2003, 09:37 PM
I <3 my MSP too.
I dont seem to have much hesitation.. more boost fixed that, my cd player is working.. the clunk is minor, and if i get the car flashed, and they replace the bushings, i will be happy. :)
My only complaint is the seat... why the hell did they make the seat with the raised surface, and was it not wear tested?!
I might try to get a pair of RX7 FD seats... :D
kwiktsi
10-09-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by yashooa
Damn Joey Joo Ja is back with a vengeance.
Naah, just had a stressful day at work, so I figured I'd come vent :D .
Joe
oldzoomer
10-10-2003, 12:56 AM
driving my MSP is more fun than taunting people on the Intenet.
I LOVE MY MSP!
torque steer is nothing in this car if you compare it to V6 cars without LSD like the Altima. Mazda did a damn good job engineering the drive train and suspension on this car.
Shaneth
10-10-2003, 02:11 AM
I currently own a 2000 Honda Civic, 2000 Honda Prelude and a 2003.5 MSP, and I'm going to have to say that there is definately no more torque steer in the msp than in my other two vehicles. Perhaps your vehicles are unique to mine, or vice versa. Try holding the wheel with two hands and you'll avoid your problems with near accidents. Your problem is that the power on the MSP spools much sooner than on the VTEC engines, so you're feeling the torque level much sooner. You probably face this problem when turning from a stand still. Once you're cornering at speed, you should feel a significant improvement in handling with the msp. It out handles my Prelude in stock form, hands down. And don't try telling me that your Civic is a better handler than a Prelude, because I drive them both and I know. My Prelude doesn't hit its peek torque level until around 5200 RPM, while the MSP hits it at around 3500 RPM. As long as you become familiar with this, you should be able to use the torque steer as an advantage rather than an accident waiting to happen.
CHICO2003
10-10-2003, 03:13 AM
apppreciate the positive thread (certainly better than the typical BS thread you usually post... no offense) but it seems like you contradicted yourself... in the beginning you're talking about how this Tech was blown away by how fast your car was. (which is obviously a good thing) Then you mention "to all you people out there who are only interested in 1/4 times..." meaning, straight away speed isn't that important. Well, my friend, which is it???? I'm in the "handling is better" dept but these two thoughts, IMO, contradict eachother just a tad.
Took mine to a dealer, (took three tries to get one who'd listen), and complained about the torque steer. They said they had a bulletin from Mazda about resetting the toe, and after that, it had much less torque steer. Also, try setting the tire pressure to 32 lbs.
InsidiousMSP
10-10-2003, 02:02 PM
I personally bought this car because it looks nice and has a good stereo system.
Glowmunkey
10-10-2003, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by CHICO2003
apppreciate the positive thread (certainly better than the typical BS thread you usually post... no offense) but it seems like you contradicted yourself... in the beginning you're talking about how this Tech was blown away by how fast your car was. (which is obviously a good thing) Then you mention "to all you people out there who are only interested in 1/4 times..." meaning, straight away speed isn't that important. Well, my friend, which is it???? I'm in the "handling is better" dept but these two thoughts, IMO, contradict eachother just a tad.
Just an idea: the guy may have been blown away, given what the car is. I know that I was very surprised after test driving a MSP for the first time. Insanely fast? No, I've owned and driven MUCH faster, but the car felt damn good for a 170 hp turbocharged four banger.
Just my opinion... if you don't like it: (moon)
MazdaDryvr
10-10-2003, 11:31 PM
I too would like to express my feelings of affection for the Mazda Speed Protege.
I love my (msporange !!! (yippy) (yippy) (wiggle) (wiggle)
Oh yeah, and
I LOVE MY MAZDASPEED!!!
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