POLL: If you guys had a AUTO Tranny Car (mp5) would you fix it up?

[WayneTeK]

Honestly, i wouldn't fix it up. It just seems like a waste of $$$ for some reason. My last car, 2000 Celica, was an auto and i never fixed it up...

It just seems like a waste of $$$ for some reason.. esepcially if you get an exhaust system. for an auto, there is a continuous sound for that hum drum from the exhaust..

but if you get a manual, there is a break in the sound when you shift, which makes it sound sooo sweet....

[fkmp5]

the poll states "(mp5)" but one of the options is "Depends on if it is a BMW/Benz.... "

anyways, i would still hook up an Auto.. just because it's an awesome hobby. who cares what tranny you have. there are some sick Automatics around..

[uclap5]

with the onset of the hiboost turbo for autos id say its definatly shouldnt be dismissed just because its an auto.

and nothing about mt vs auto makes handling mods any less fun/ benificial.

[Pickledoe]

why is it a waste of money....I believe Pirana has an auto tranny...I don't think anyone would say that car is a waste of money

[tonkabui]

yeah... pull up next to a riced out civic in a turbo'd pro... then take off slowly and make sure he hears your auto shifting... then stomp on it. at the next light, tell him he got beat by an automatic. hahahahaaha... that's just great. anyway, i'm modding my auto. one of these days, when i'm rich, i'm going to make it a 300whp beast with a level 10 auto tranny, the biggest mofo turbo ever, forged internals, ported and polished, etc. etc. oh yeah... and a complete engine management system. i'll pay someone tons of money to do it. then i'm gonna get me some real racing wheels and some real racing coilover system, and make it my track car. i'll eat up speedvision! hahahaaha... yeah, right.

[Matthew]

actually most bmws you can get in standard all the way up the line.

[tonkabui]

matthew is right...only mercedes doesn't offer a manual in any of their ultralux lines. the bmw 540i comes with a manual as standard, auto as an option. the competing mercedes e430 only comes with an auto. even the amg mercedes come with an auto.

[Matthew]

yep the 545i comes with a 6spd (evil)

[akhilleus]

I have an auto and i have modded it. MT or AT the car is way too slow stock...needs more zoom-zoom

[rodslinger]

So you think just because someone is handicapped and HAS to have an auto it is a waste of time for them to mod the car? Maybe they want to get somewhere fast too.....:p

[xantxp5x]

hahah shit talker.

[spazspike]

Although I drive an automatic p5 with that fancy-dancy sport shift, I'd never dream of "fixing it up" to any extent. Heck, I question why I got the HKS axle-back everyday. It'd just be more of a hassle to take it off and put the old muffler on the rusted joints.

Nothing against modifying an automatic car in general, just not the Protege5. A whopping 130hp at the crank and sub 100whp is a horrible baseline to work with and I'm not even a car guy. Sleeper or not, some cars weren't meant to do some things.

Look at Micah... for weeks/months we listened to him talk about this turbo project on his automatic. I was actually intrigued (silly me). Where does it stand now? He was trying to sell it and never even posted dyno numbers. At least as of the last time I checked...

Waste of time, waste on money and energy.

[RyanJayG]

who cares if its only an auto... the AMG S55 is rediculous.. my boss owns one... he let me drive it.... his mistake :D

[spazspike]

However, who would honestly spend more money modifying an S55? Last I checked those aren't $15,000 cars.

Plus if you notice the thread title you see the "MP5" part. We've all driven nice automatic transmission sports cars, that's for sure... we all know that 99.9% of them we'd take in a heart beat over an automatic Protege5.

[toucci]

Originally posted by spazspike
nice automatic transmission sports cars

thats an oxymoron

[jsgolfer]

i say mod it no matter what fucking tranny you have. still fun to take turns fast no matter what your driving. also, its not like the manual give you alot more horsepower to start with. just alittle more fun to drive

[Subghetto]

Just do what I'am going to do and what mp5jeff already did hook up your auto and then do a manual tranny swap (glare)

[ChuEy826]

I've got the mazdaspeed axleback.. and I'm putting in a CAI within the next week. Other than that.. maybe headers.. everything's going into suspension and audio.. maybe one day I'll swap the tranny.. but that's not for a couple.. err.. few years.

The auto might not make the cool noises and all.. but its still fun to whip around corners and such.. and it makes it a lot easier to eat and drive and such.

[jersey_emt]

but if you get a manual, there is a break in the sound when you shift, which makes it sound sooo sweet....

If I want to, I don't get a break in the sound when I shift (dunno) ;)

[fkmp5]

If I want to, I don't get a break in the sound when I shift (dunno) ;)
same here (spin) !!

i wish i was out driving now instead of sitting here at work..

[SilvrProtege5NJ]

Hell yeah. I have an AT. I love it!! Woooooooooooo

[Onatrum]

I put a CAI and exhaust on my auto...sure it isn't much faster if any, but it's just plain fun! And it's a healthy hobby! Can't buy drugs if my money goes to cars! ;)

[PuertoRicanMP5]

I would fix up my auto as well, but I haven't heard any good things about a turbo automatic, thats why I wish they come out with a turbocharger where it would work better probably for automatics (dunno)

[protegeV]

actually most bmws you can get in standard all the way up the line.I wasnt aware you could get a 760li with an manual(shrug)

[L8R]

i got auto! no shame :)

i got h/e/i ground wires, minor stuff

turbo on the other hand, i say no, unless u run 4-5psi at most. dont wanna blow your tranny

peace

chris

[Iconoclast]

woudnt have an auto=if i won one would sell it.

shame on the auto drivers.

i know draft dodgers with more heart then yous

[Protege5Gurly]

<~~~ Has an auto.

Pe@ce

[cyc]

I have an auto (cuz i have to share the car with my mom). That is the reason that I'm not willing to spend some money on my car.

[FlannelBoy711]

woudnt have an auto=if i won one would sell it.

shame on the auto drivers.

i know draft dodgers with more heart then yous
Your a homo.

[pr5owner]

well concidering an auto can handle more power than an MT i would ONLY put performance mods into it, no ICE or anykinda BS,

lower w/ rims, and then turbo

[fkmp5]

woudnt have an auto=if i won one would sell it.

shame on the auto drivers.

i know draft dodgers with more heart then yous
yous? did you make that word up or something? (uhm)

there is no shame in driving an automatic.. it's just a choice. i drive a manual but don't look down on anyone because they have an automatic.

[akhilleus]

yeah wtf.... some people dont always have a choice... i wanted manual... it would have saved me over a G on the price... but after commuting to school in bad traffic... i am happy i have an auto... i probably would have wasted my clutch by now too.... well my next car will definately be a manual.... just have to choose between a 3, 6 , or rx 8... damn i love mazda

[mazdaspeedpower]

If I had an auto, your damn right I would fix it, I'd make it a manual transmission. Then Fix it Up.

[mazdaspeedpower]

Ok, I wasn't trying to be an asshole....but I am one, so thats the way I came across. I don't like Auto for ME, however, I think some situations call for auto trans, and some people just don't want to worry about shifting through the gears. I love it, makes me feel closer to my baby, and makes me feel like I have more control.

[GNO]

yeah wtf.... some people dont always have a choice... i wanted manual... it would have saved me over a G on the price... but after commuting to school in bad traffic... i am happy i have an auto...
I'm in the same boat, my wife's last car was a manual. She hated it becuase of her commute. She insisted on an auto. After we bought the auto P5, he commute changed to mainly highway. If we get a Mazda3, it'll be a manual.

[sidpro5]

i know draft dodgers with more heart then yous
That's a rather bold and idiotic statement to make................

[Fade]

Hell yeah fix up an auto tranny car. These cars (P5) are slugs to begin with. Everything I do just makes it that much more drivable. Don't get me wrong on the slug part....I love my car but we all know it's true.

[Replica]

I'd fix up a paddle shifter car. It's kinda auto

[nonameheroes]

heres one auto that will tear it up at the track or on the street:

http://home.austin.rr.com/dgagnon/images/escort_front.jpg

and heres the write up on what he has done to it:

http://www.escortracing.com/hybrid/Denis/Denis.html

[Fade]

heres one auto that will tear it up at the track or on the street:

http://home.austin.rr.com/dgagnon/images/escort_front.jpg

and heres the write up on what he has done to it:

http://www.escortracing.com/hybrid/Denis/Denis.html
Awesome on the escort. That guy's letting nothing get in his way.

[element.8]

i've seen mention of people saying that turboing an automatic protege5 will more than likely do more harm than good, most specifically to the transmission.


the question i have is...

what about the automatics that have the manual / tiptronic mode to them? i have an auto-p5 with the tiptronic transmission, and i was going to buy the mazdaspeed turbo kit for it. if this is going to be more detrimental to me, than i'm going to save the money and use it somewhere else.

[akhilleus]

If u want to turbo an auto u need a tranny upgrade... either a new torque convertor or valvebody upgrade..... they arent expensive(compared to a manual clutch or flywheel) and will guarantee that u r protected....
www.lentechautomatics.com
the tranny's are basically identical and having spoken to them they can help u out.
they have a 385hp focus drag racer....nuff said

[sidpro5]

If I want to, I don't get a break in the sound when I shift (dunno) ;)
And, if I want to, I GET that "oh so cool break in the sound" when I shift. 'Cause, boy-o-boy, does that make me feel great.................

[Subghetto]

Akhilleus How much would it cost $$$$ to build a bulliet-proof auto tranny? Let's say good enough for like 210hp-220hp 12psi+

[akhilleus]

well u would need a new torque convertor... lentech said the strip/street would be good(stage 1) $400 and a new valvebody is $400.... figure install everything at once another $400... maybe $1200+ to more or less "bulletproof" it. They are also making a plate differential which will be fairly affordable.... apparently its a weak area of the tranny. oh and a tranny cooler($40-$80)
honestly it would cost as much to rebuild a manual with ACT and fidanza... and the torque convertor wont wear out like a clutch will.
Or u can always buy a total rebuilt tranny.... they might make some other modifications... but from what they said u only need a valvebody, cooler, and torque convertor.... unless u are that wild focus :D

[Subghetto]

So what would be cheaper manual swap or beef up the auto tranny?

[akhilleus]

a manual swap is pointless.... it would be at least $3k-4k just for the tranny... plus installing it would be mucho dinero.... a properly modded auto tranny will be quicker off the line than a manual any day... and with the valvebody the shifts would be more precise and responsive.

[JOS3]

if im not mistaken, piranas car was an auto........nuff said

[Aricjm15]

pirana's car was also mostly a show car, DeckedoutMP5 burned his tranny to hell when put in his highboost Kit

my opinion, the only automatic's worth fixing up come with huge V8 engines attached

[AZDriftR]

my opinion, the only automatic's worth fixing up come with huge V8 engines attached
um ive seen a street legal 3rd gen RX7 auto run high 7's in the quarter mile, and what about the titan motorsports supra, also an auto and that thing OWNS!! as far as autoX/ road racing auto is a no no... u wear the crap out of the braking system.. but if i had an auto i would definitly mod it... but i love my 5-speed

[Aricjm15]

ok then things with LARGE engines

[AZDriftR]

ok then things with LARGE engines
RX-7= 1.3 liter displacement that aint big!!!

[Aricjm15]

you're a cunt, it has a LARGE amount of horse power, how about that clown phalis

[AZDriftR]

you're a cunt, it has a LARGE amount of horse power, how about that clown phalis
haha...someones touchy(poke)....am i gettin to ya huh????

[P5LawnMan]

pirana's car was also mostly a show car, DeckedoutMP5 burned his tranny to hell when put in his highboost Kit

my opinion, the only automatic's worth fixing up come with huge V8 engines attachedWill See!!!!!

[Replica]

It's funny that people are mentioning mostly crazy shop sponsored cars. Bottom line, if it isn't a V8 or high hp car stock and has an auto, it's not worth it.

[jersey_emt]

well concidering an auto can handle more power than an MT i would ONLY put performance mods into it, no ICE or anykinda BS,

lower w/ rims, and then turbo


Auto can handle more power than manual?? I think you've got things switched.

[Replica]

Auto can handle more power than manual?? I think you've got things switched.On big evil V8's, yes. On Mazdas, probably not.(uhm)

[tonkabui]

so is having a sequential gear box considered auto or manual? you don't have a clutch, but you gotta change gears yourself.

[Replica]

so is having a sequential gear box considered auto or manual? you don't have a clutch, but you gotta change gears yourself.It has a torque converter right? If so, it's an auto to me.

[tonkabui]

i am not sure if it has a torque convertor. the same ones they put in bmw's smg and ferrari's f1 and toyota's new tranny for the spyder.

[akhilleus]

Well the Audi has the CVT... continously variable transmission... is that an auto? I dont think there is a torque convertor. However the mazda/ford auto is very durable. In talking to lentech they use the exact same transmission on the 385hp focus. The exact same auto that is in the protege. They replace the torque convertor and valvebody but it is very realistic. It neednt be a V8. And anyways no matter what auto vehicle is being raced it will always have an upgraded tranny,... just as an MT that is raced. A stock auto is as reliable as a stock MT.... add power and eventually u will need to upgrade either of them.

[Lil Freek]

note: auto trannies ARE stronger than MT. not in the proteges.. but as far as physics and engineering are concerned.. an AT tranny can be stronger than any MT.

i plan on turbo'ing my car.. so long as i can find a decent price for reinforcing mine. ($1200 is reasonable)

[GreenPic]

This thread is gettin my hopes back up. I have a shift-tronic/ paddle-shift/ bump-shift, whatever you wanna call it, and recently i've been reading about ppl blowing there AT tranny when they turboed. This was detremental to me because i want to turbo my car. I dont wanna do a tranny swap, thats just to much money. So recently i've been put into a bind thinkin that im gunna have to stay NA just to save the life of my tranny. My question is, does my shift-tronic (what have you) tranny have a torque converter in it so that i can beef it up with the 1200 dollar option? then i can put my foot into the land of tuboed supercars and drop-dead gorgeous women!!! (bow)

[Lil Freek]

green.. you might wanna look into http://www.levelten.com
i will be looking into lentech, as they are about 6 hours away, and canadian (no exchange makes me happy)...
levelten has some good reviews.. they're probably a little overrated, but they're still a credible company.. you could easily get to 10-12psi with a rebuilt tranny from them (maybe need stage 2 rebuild)

[Subghetto]

This thread is gettin my hopes back up. Reading about ppl blowing there AT tranny when they turboed. This was detremental to me because i want to turbo my car. I dont wanna do a tranny swap, thats just to much money. So recently i've been put into a bind thinkin that im gunna have to stay NA just to save the life of my tranny. Yeah I too felt that there was no hope and I was planning on doing a tranny swap until akellius showed me the way. I will be looking into either http://www.lentechautomatics.com/ or www.levelten.com (http://www.levelten.com/) to beef up my auto tranny so then I can turbo my car (band2) but for now I'am going to stay N/A. But in the future I will join the darkside.

[akhilleus]

Levelten is located near me in NJ, however from my research they dont offer specific items... ie they have upgrades for most tranny's but they dont have experience with any specific trannies... like lentech... personally i wouldnt bother with levelten.. as has been said they arent as helpful and they might not have the kind of expertise that lentech has either on our cars. Oh and levelten makes u send in your parts wheras lentech u can buy parst and have them installed... pulling a tranny to have it upgraded would really suck and add alot of $$
yeah but for $1200 i think u could protect your tranny over 200whp at least.

[Lil Freek]

yeah.. i want a specific quote from them.
like site says, our tranny is almost identical to the one in the Focus.
i need something that can go over 200whp.. the Terminator Series tranny seems to be good.. 275whp.. that's about the most the engine could deal with without going through forging 'n crap..
ES turbo + Lentech tranny = $5000 in the hole for +60whp off the bat, +150whp by the time i'm done. :)

[Matthew]

i didnt read all the replies but just a note for you that most bmws come in standard tranny....one of the few luxury cars that you can get in standard tranny. i guess the people in europe arent as big of pussies as us.

[Lil Freek]

i guess the people in europe arent as big of pussies as us.
1 word... Autobahn

[Iconoclast]

weather any one agrees or not, it IS shame on the auto driver!

mostly becuz most of the auto driver tries to be the "racer" with an auto.

dont bitch at or hate on me, fuk with those who try to be the racers and drive an auto of any kind - go for the source!

leev me alone. im a standard driver who cares not for racing, fuk those who tried to show me as otherwise and tried to "quote" my post as being opposite.

dickbags, get a REAL job- then read the sig and the quote!

[Lil Freek]

that's alright..
opinions are like assholes... everybody's got one.

i commute lots and i'm too tall to have MTx.. so i'm gonna do my best with the ATx and be the only seriously modded ATx in my city :)

[Matthew]

damn clast, what is your problem? i may agree about auto trannys sucking, but damn, dude, you are always so angry at the world.

[jb1knobe]

I have a new used 2002 auto, I'd prefer the auto/manual BUT I have rented the 6 with the a/m and to be honest it was okay. I'd only want it for driving in the hills to be honet. Given the need to juggle a cell phone, a cup of jo and stop and go traffic, auto is so much easier. Sure manual rules for performance....

Great forum and I'm getting the hang...

Stock 2002 P5 auto

planned mods:
CAI, Catbck, headdder
Peerless audio seperates, soundproofing and a 7 year old Soundstream 5 channel!!!!!! (never one problem)

[CitizenPro]

Theres nothing wrong with an auto P5.......just ask my NX system (yes)

[SciFiMan]

Iconoclast, you might want to have them adjust your medication.

[bazooka joe]

i've modded my car and will be boostin at some point here in the not to distant future, and yes it's an auto and i suck, so there. i don't care. i bought the auto because i thought it was going to be a shared ride with some fam members who don't do sticks. anyway, i fell in love with the car, the ride, how it handled and told the fam members "hands off". now only my wife drives it once in a great while. it's my daily driver and i don't plan on drag racing, just want what mazda should have given us in the first place...more ponies!!(yes) i do agree though that the stick is way more fun!!

[Crazee D]

i've modded my car and will be boostin at some point here in the not to distant future, and yes it's an auto and i suck, so there. i don't care. i bought the auto because i thought it was going to be a shared ride with some fam members who don't do sticks. anyway, i fell in love with the car, the ride, how it handled and told the fam members "hands off". now only my wife drives it once in a great while. it's my daily driver and i don't plan on drag racing, just want what mazda should have given us in the first place...more ponies!!(yes) i do agree though that the stick is way more fun!!

mmhmm

need we say more?
boosted autos FTW!

[Valk]

its only a couple hundred bucks to upgrade the tranny to take moderate boost. like... a grand to build it with a new TC. I just wish our trannies were more like the gms or volks where you have controll of every gear. I have the 02 model which didnt have tiptronic and i only have control of two gears really.
I think lentech makes electronics to add that control though. or i guess you could just get the parts for the tiptronic sincethey are the same tranny.

Ill mod it for sure. although i dont know if ill bother with boost untill im 100% on modding my motor, or just getting a kl donor and dropping that. found a ford probe GT for $600 so might be cheaper lol.

[nate0123]

whoah... 4 year bump out of nowheres!

anyway, I voted "no" - because if you mod it you might want to keep it... and not trade it for a car with a proper transmission ;)

[bazooka joe]

you were right...i kept it! ;)

[i12drivemyMP5]

Tiptronic = manual without broken shift forks & motor mounts. I have a bombproof manual in my crazy truck with sturdy shift fork & good motor mounts to go nuts in so yes, modded my auto P5 & keepin it just like I've kept the crazy truck for 25 yrs. The wife's vehicle is the unmodded comes & goes every few yrs vehicle so got it all covered except for the straight up track car. Getting triple garage next year when moving so that hole will likely be filled too. One vehicle cannot cover all aspects so get a few or several.

[SoCalRyder7]

I answered no but if it was a bimmer or benz id probablyjust open it up and let the engine breath better. No more no less... xcept cosmetic upgrades(birthday)

[bazooka joe]

i've modded my car and will be boostin at some point here in the not to distant future, and yes it's an auto and i suck, so there. i don't care. i bought the auto because i thought it was going to be a shared ride with some fam members who don't do sticks. anyway, i fell in love with the car, the ride, how it handled and told the fam members "hands off". now only my wife drives it once in a great while. it's my daily driver and i don't plan on drag racing, just want what mazda should have given us in the first place...more ponies!!(yes) i do agree though that the stick is way more fun!!
well that was 2004....this is 2009
i say no way ;)

[Trevor710]

another anti-auto critic. you get what you get....i got such a good deal i didn't have a choice. of course i still want to modify my P5. why should i leave it stock just because its an auto?

[bazooka joe]

another anti-auto critic. you get what you get....i got such a good deal i didn't have a choice. of course i still want to modify my P5. why should i leave it stock just because its an auto?
re-read the post dude...i'm auto all the way!(cabpatch)i was funnin

[johnny mp5]

im auto too man. i take back what i said from my thread. I LOVE MY AUTO now. ahah ill be the only boosted built auto p5 in so-cal one day

[rooster]

only boosted auto in ontario and possibly all of canada!

I love it! 10psi on an auto is straight up insane!!

[Valk]

i have personally seen two boosted autos in vancouver, so your not the only one, but its an awsome achievement fosho. i miss my p5 =(

[bazooka joe]

i'm the fastest boosted auto p5 in my neighborhood!:cool: