Intake

[DrooZor]

I just bought a 2002 Protege ES, totaly stcok, i figure the first thing im gunna buy is a intake.

-What one is good for the protege?
-And can i have a link of where to buy one at?

[MotegiMazdA]

www.nopionline.com

www.corksport.com

there are more somewhere........

[MackDadam]

what color is your ES?? i had a silver one, i loved it. nice car. congrats

[Matthew]

Ok, here are the low-downs on intakes (please read, good info):

First, you have two types, CAI (cold air induction) and SRI (short ram intake). For the most part, you have two name brands that make intakes: Injen, and AEM. Injen makes the CAI and AEM makes the SRI. Also, you can purchase a no-name, Bomz, or other off brand intake from eBay with simliar results to the SRI.

Rumors: Dispite what a lot of people say, the two types of intakes do not yeild a significant power difference. I have owned both types and noticed NO, NONE, NADA, ZIP, ZILCH increase between the SRI and the CAI. The basic difference is 1) Looks (the Injen you can get in different powdercoated colors), and 2) Personal Preference. The eBay intake will yield almost IDENTICAL results to the AEM SRI power wise. In my opinion, the eBay ones look like junk, but they serve their purpose...I had an eBay intake before my Injen...it's a good intake for a tight budget.

Another rumor is that you will have to worry about the CAI taking in water and destroying your engine...while this is theorectically possible, it will not happen unless you submerge your intake in water (ie - drive through a 2ft deep puddle)...the CAI is hidden in your wheel well behind the plastic shield which is screwed in...if you are especially nervous, you can always get the AEM bypass valve, although I personally think it's a waste of money.

Prices: You are going to spend significantly more money for the Inejn or AEM intake over the eBay intake. And you are going to spend more money for the Injen over the AEM. A lot of owners feel it's worth the money to be able to get your intake in Black, Red, Blue, Silver, etc, and therefore spend their money on the Injen. Frankly, if you don't care about name brands, or care what people think when you open your hood (if you even open your hood), I would not waste my money on the Injen or AEM...but that's just my opinion, and many hours have been wasted arguing this point. Many owners have found the best prices for the Injen at www.adventon.com...

[tonkabui]

i am going to have to agree with matthew here, except for this one point. if you drive through a foot of water, be careful. i lowered my car on eibachs and the bottom of the filter is a mere 5 inches from the ground and the top of the filter is about 12" off the ground. complete submersion will result in hydrolock. it floods in tucson quite a bit, and i've never had a problem with hydrolock, even going through big puddles. lett off the gas in a high gear and let the engine rest at idle and power through the puddles.

but other than that, i'm going to go with the matthew man. if i have survived two monsoon seasons in tucson, you can survive mild rain and properly drained streets. enjoy your car, and welcome to the boards.


Originally posted by Matthew

Another rumor is that you will have to worry about the CAI taking in water and destroying your engine...while this is theorectically possible, it will not happen unless you submerge your intake in water (ie - drive through a 2ft deep puddle)...the CAI is hidden in your wheel well behind the plastic shield which is screwed in...if you are especially nervous, you can always get the AEM bypass valve, although I personally think it's a waste of money.

[MackDadam]

holy shit!!! totally off topic here...and i know razor you just love it when msp owners reply with off topic shit but oh well. this might sway the guy. i live in florida and it fucking dropped like 2 inches of rain in about 30 min today. driving home i went thru a puddle about 1-2 ft deep. i was so worried i was going to intake water.. good thing i didnt have a cai because it would have been submerged. so it just depends on your climate. i wouldnt advise a cai in fla unless you want to take it off during the rainy season, which has been going on here since april.... so its just really a matter of if you go thru puddles, then i wouldnt get it.

[MotegiMazdA]

Originally posted by tonkabui
i am going to have to agree with matthew here, except for this one point. if you drive through a foot of water, be careful. i lowered my car on eibachs and the bottom of the filter is a mere 5 inches from the ground and the top of the filter is about 12" off the ground. complete submersion will result in hydrolock. it floods in tucson quite a bit, and i've never had a problem with hydrolock, even going through big puddles. lett off the gas in a high gear and let the engine rest at idle and power through the puddles.

but other than that, i'm going to go with the matthew man. if i have survived two monsoon seasons in tucson, you can survive mild rain and properly drained streets. enjoy your car, and welcome to the boards.

its called a bypass ;)

[MackDadam]

i cant see a bpv really working when totally submerged though

[MotegiMazdA]

you owned me :(

[MackDadam]

hey joelene do you know if danny ever got that skirt for the protege?

[Matthew]

i live in oklahoma, where we have absolutely no drainage system whatsoever. im serious, when it rains, our roads arent even slanted so the water doesnt even run down the sides of the roads. plus, there are no hills, so it just sits around for days and days. i rarely even see sewers on the streets here. i drive through the shit all the time with no problems or anything. i wouldnt worry about it, and if you do, get the bypass valve. and the valve will work because its under the hood, not right by the filter, and if you were in water deep enough to submerge the valve, your car would be flood totaled anyhow.

[MackDadam]

not to mention those tornadoes......the scariest thing ive ever heard or seen was a tornado in oklahoma. we get them in florida but not like the one i saw

[Matthew]

we had like 100 some in a day once. but ive never seen one.

[MotegiMazdA]

Originally posted by MackDadam
hey joelene do you know if danny ever got that skirt for the protege?

Yeah I gave it to Justin, Danny wasnt around the hotel after NOPI,he imed me sayin that Justin had it dont worry hes VERY trust worthy.

[MisterT]

So how much Hp do you expect when getting a CAI?? I was thinking of getting one and an exhaust kit, but those alone probably wouldn't yield much hp and would bring a lot of noise in to the interior (and I am an audio buff)!

[Matthew]

your audio will be louder

[MotegiMazdA]

I think the cars sound a little meaner with some sort of an aftermarket intake its sexy ;)

[MackDadam]

im not worried now, i trust you, thanks again though for delivering it. i owe you

[DrooZor]

so will this do the trick....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2434103132&category=38634
I dont care much about looks..... i just want that little extra growl that comes from an intake.....

all this intake talk made me want to ask about turbos.... is there any good turbos out there for the protege.... ive seen one... it cost like 3,500 bucks and only did 6psi.... witch doesnt seem worth it. my friend gets 14psi on his stock tallon.... is that possibile from an aftermarket turbo?

[DrooZor]

oh and yes.... my protege is silver....

[Matthew]

do a search for spool and hiboost and read up on turbo systems for the protege.

[DrooZor]

ok, i will.
in your sig it looks like you have a header for your car, thats something i have yet to find for my car, anywhere i can find a header?

[Matthew]

yes, look in the how-to section for my RacingMazda write up. keep in mind if you go turbo in the future you will be removing the header.