What Turbo Timer to get?

[spacemonkey]

Hey I need a Turbo timer...Any recommendations?

I was thinking of getting an A'Pexi Turbo timer because it has more options like O2 sensors and battery meter...whooooooo. Its really sleek looking I could probally mount it on top of my steering coloumn.

Or HKS Type 0 or Type 1. They said its okay and its really not worth the price...but look way lot nicer. Does it have boost control built in? I heard Type 1 is pretty sweet but is it worth the price?

Or Greddy...which isjust cheap...$75 and they throw in installation. I think they said it had a stop watch as an added function...whoooo

What would you guys recommend?

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[Dexter]

ive got HKS Type 1, does not have boost control but has many timing functions (1/4mi, 0-60), voltmeter, lap timer

for it being not worth the price *shrug* i like it

[Mazdaspd035]

Hey, I forgot to say welcome, nice color. I am new here also, picked up my MSP last Tuesday the 16th. I'm also looking for a TT but not sure was risks if any are involved, ie: stalling, etc.
I have not even began to look at them. I just let engine idle for a minute or two before shutting off.
:D


Good Luck


Rudi

[PHILLY-ORANGE]

HKS TYPE 0 easy install and works great you can set what time you want to count down I have it set auto it judges how long you have been driving and then counts down .

[Dexter]

Originally posted by Mazdaspd035
Hey, I forgot to say welcome, nice color. I am new here also, picked up my MSP last Tuesday the 16th. I'm also looking for a TT but not sure was risks if any are involved, ie: stalling, etc.
I have not even began to look at them. I just let engine idle for a minute or two before shutting off.
:D


Good Luck


Rudi

why would you stall if you install a turbo timer?

[rjspeed]

Which turbo timers read in psi for boost?
Thanx
Ryan

[Black Majik MSP]

BLITZ FATT!

[1sty]

None don't waste the money.

[Mazdaspd035]

Originally posted by Dexter
why would you stall if you install a turbo timer?


I dunno, just a question. This is my first turbo car, I know nothing about them. I am just trying to gather information to further educate myself on these cars, so any help/advice is greatly appreciated. :D

Rudi

[TitanB]

None don't waste the money.


Why do you say that?

[Blue me]

yes, why 1st? the only reason why i'm thinking about it is when i'm in a hurry and don't want to wait a minute or two.

also, how long does everyone let theirs cool down for? the manual says 30 seconds, but something tells me that is a minimum. i always wait at least a minute. i've also heard that you don't want to let it idle for too long. not sure why.

hook a brotha up

[Blue me]

by the way...welcome and excellent color.
mine looks just like that, thats funny.

[Dexter]

mine is set for 30 seconds. i usually stay out of boost when driving around to school and work anyways.

[2K3 MSP]

I've got the GReddy Full Auto. It's got lots of features, but I don't even use them:) I keep mine set at 1:30 because I'm really hard on my car, and do a lot of freeway driving. Is that too much time?

[jred321]

Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
None don't waste the money.
i agree, just drive easy for the last minute or 2 (staying out of boost), then let it sit for ~30 secs. the money can be used on things that will make you go faster :)

[Vassago]

I vote Blitz. I have one and love it. It has a manual and auto coutdown as well as a built in boost gauge, a very handy thing if you plan on getting a boost controller in the near future. Oh, and it also has a warning chime if you boost past a preset level. Hope this helps.

[spacemonkey]

Thanks for the input. I found out Apexi dont make wiring harness for Speed Protege so anyone have problem hotwiring it. Ah...I just going to go with the Type0...its no hassel.

[1sty]

Originally posted by TitanB
Why do you say that?

Simple, most people's drivivng style doesn't require it.
As long as you don't use boost 30 seconds before turning off the car, there's no issue.

I for one never use boost while driving the 2 minutes through my neighborhood on the way home or atleast a minutes through the streets to get to work. Even if you stop at a rest stop off the highway, ususaly yolur slowing down for 15 second and by the time your ready to get out 30 seconds has past.

Unless you are really boosting hard there is no reason to wait more then 30 seconds after using boost.

[1sty]

Originally posted by Blue me
yes, why 1st? the only reason why i'm thinking about it is when i'm in a hurry and don't want to wait a minute or two.

also, how long does everyone let theirs cool down for? the manual says 30 seconds, but something tells me that is a minimum. i always wait at least a minute. i've also heard that you don't want to let it idle for too long. not sure why.

hook a brotha up

Keep in mind its 30 seconds from using boost not from getting back to idle. YOu can be on the highway for 2 hours and aslong as you didn't use boost 30 seconds before turning off the engine, your fine.

[pHase1]

When selecting a TT, what would I search for for a harness to plug into factory? I can not seem to find any adapters except for the RX-7.

[Dexter]

no one, to my knowledge, makes a TT harness for us

[pHase1]

Are they faily difficult to install? Would I say, pay a mechanic to install one for me?

[jrodhotrod]

Installing a turbo timer is pretty easy. I figured it out. Now getting your factory alarm to work with it or an aftermarket alarm is a different story. (the factory alarm will not arm while the turbo timer is on)

I guess there are a couple of ways to work around this, but I had an aftermarket alarm/autostart put in my car right after I installed the turbo timer so I didn't worry about it.

Do a couple of searches and you should find plenty of advice on the install. Someone on here did a nice how-to using a blitz (I think) turbo timer on their personal site. Some of it was the same for my HKS, for the rest of it I found a post that stated which wires to tap.

[spacemonkey]

Well I heard the Apexi is hard becasue of the Air/fuel ratio censors that has to be hooked up to the ECU. I also heard the A/F censor is inaccurate because of ECU problems/emissions. HKS and Greddy turbo timers I heard were easy...although Dexter was right...no one makes turbo timer harness for speed protege. But I also think the Apexi is the nicest one cus its slim and the size of a pen...I could easy mount it on my dash or steering column.

[Stormtrooper77]

Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
Simple, most people's drivivng style doesn't require it.
As long as you don't use boost 30 seconds before turning off the car, there's no issue.

I for one never use boost while driving the 2 minutes through my neighborhood on the way home or atleast a minutes through the streets to get to work. Even if you stop at a rest stop off the highway, ususaly yolur slowing down for 15 second and by the time your ready to get out 30 seconds has past.

Unless you are really boosting hard there is no reason to wait more then 30 seconds after using boost.

New to turbos here, so please explain how do you not go into boost? Just don't gas it as much? I guess you need a boost gauge for that.

[jred321]

Originally posted by Stormtrooper77
New to turbos here, so please explain how do you not go into boost? Just don't gas it as much? I guess you need a boost gauge for that.
yes, basically. just give it a little gas and you will stay out of boost. you don't need a boost gauge, just don't give it a lot of gas

[1sty]

Just drive half intelligently wen approaching your destination and a TT is totaly useless. By the time you go through a few small parking lots or 35 mph roads by your house, your turbo has cooled donw plenty and the hot oil has circulated.

[Stormtrooper77]

Good to know. Thanks!

[Stormtrooper77]

Question: Has the tt issue about not being able to set your alarm been resolved? I have searched for about an hour now and all the post leading to the subject says that it was resolved, but I have yet to find that final resolving post. Can anyone help if they know off hand?

Thanks

[1sty]

I think I remember Greg S posting it or commenting on it atleast. Try searching his user name witho your search

[1sty]

Yep, it was greg. He's OWNS!! (thumb)Heres the link:
http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28123&highlight=turbo+timer

Greg S
Back to the main topic.

Yes, it is possible to have both the turbo timer and the alarm work. You just have to make sure the turbo timer's connections to the ignition wires are down line from the alarms and then Isolate them from the front half of the ignition lines with relays while the timer is running. I've done it 5 or 6 times over the years and it works perfectly. This is assuming you have an aftermarket alarm and not a foctory one. Though with the factory the same rule applies just you have to do the wiring out in the engine compartment to make sure you are down line form the alarm components.