Clunk fix in two weeks... is this new?

[DistantTea]

I had my car reflashed yesterday (awsome with a capital WOW) and inquired about my "damn clunking rear bushing". The tech knew all about it and said that Mazda finally developed correct bushings and a permanent fix will be available in two weeks.

Its even written on my service printout that the fix will be available in two weeks.

Did I just completely miss this information on the board? Or is this news?

[LinuxRacr]

Whoa! Now I will finally comment about the clunk. On my car it's bad! I can't wait for the fix!:D

[boostisgood]

I had received an Email from Scott Slade, in regards to the same issue, and statingthe smae thing.

Un fortunatly, I will no longer be posting emails from anyone at MNAO, as it is too much of a liability to myself, and others that could possibly be involved with it.

[Karl Marx]

Wow.. thats nice to know!

I'm Clunking since July 2001.

You can't imagine how bad it has gotten on my car...

[scott42]

That's strange, my dealer called the other day and said they had the real fix now...its just bushings though, so I'm not too sure about that. I may put it off for another couple of weeks.

[Newf]

there's always been a clunk thread in the mp3 section

This is old news.

[scott42]

For those that want to catch up...heres the 30th of the 30 pages on it...Start at the begginning and you'll learn all about everything you need to know about the clunk. Pls use that thread going forward for any NEW information.
And keep your fingers crossed :D

http://207.44.244.58/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&postid=390951#post390951

[MazdaDryvr]

I had my dealer order me all new bushings, I wonder if they are the new and improved variety?

[DeputySherif]

Just to further solidify what was said....I too was reflash on Tuesday and discussed with the service manager the clunck issue. Unfortunately, they had to order the parts for the temp. fix which I was told could take a week or so for the part to arrive. However, he did mention that he heard news about a TSB for the clunck that should be out within "two weeks."

[1sty]

Before everyone gets all happy about this, get the exact part number they are ordering.

Also as has been said thousands of times now, the bushings are not the problem, just the sign of it. There are more extensive design flaws in the rear suspension then the damn bushings.

[scott42]

All newcomers to the clunk issue, and those who think there is a fix coming, please refer to the link I posted above and read it from page 1. You'll then understand our pessimism.

And then, please post any 'possible updates' in that dedicated thread.

thanks

I think we need an "I hate the clunk" type smilie... :)

[DistantTea]

I'm not going into that MP3 forum... I'm just relaying what was told to me about the clunk. I asked if this was just the bushing replacement they were doing for the MP3 and he said no, this was a real fix from Mazda coming out in a couple weeks.

Apparently its fix the mazdaspeed week at mazda.

I'll know for sure what the part number is when I take the car in. Its unreasonable though to expect a fix from mazda that changes the fundamental design of the rear suspension. If corrected bushings are what they are going to give then thats what I'm going to take. Apparently they have been working on these problems and have a few TSBs out to help relieve the issues.

Good enough for me... today at least.

[1sty]

Originally posted by DistantTea
I'm not going into that MP3 forum... I'm just relaying what was told to me about the clunk. I asked if this was just the bushing replacement they were doing for the MP3 and he said no, this was a real fix from Mazda coming out in a couple weeks.

Apparently its fix the mazdaspeed week at mazda.

I'll know for sure what the part number is when I take the car in. Its unreasonable though to expect a fix from mazda that changes the fundamental design of the rear suspension. If corrected bushings are what they are going to give then thats what I'm going to take. Apparently they have been working on these problems and have a few TSBs out to help relieve the issues.

Good enough for me... today at least.


Its the same bushings on each car!
You have the EXACT same suspension.
THe tread is inclusive of each type of car.
The tread also will explain why a bushing will never do shit!
The thread will also tell you the exact part number to look for to know if they are truthful or fucking with you.

[pdhaudio83]

the last version of "improved" bushings is 156D

[Karl Marx]

Just put your radio volume to 24 or more ... fixes the clunk and thunk (i have 2 different sounds in the back ) for me :-)



I'm not going into that MP3 forum...


But the MP3 did have the clunk before you even knew a Protege MazdaSpeed would exist. I guess mazdaspeed people think the MP3 is a totaly different car from mars maybe !

[scott42]

"Its unreasonable though to expect a fix from mazda that changes the fundamental design of the rear suspension. If corrected bushings are what they are going to give then thats what I'm going to take. Apparently they have been working on these problems and have a few TSBs out to help relieve the issues. Good enough for me... today at least"


You'll hate yourself for saying that after you've been back to the dealer 15 times or once every 2-3 months during summer, and every 2-3 weeks during winter to have them redone...
We're hoping for this fix for everyone so that no one has to go through this...its truely agonizing to bring a new car into the shop so often; especially when you see the payments going out of your wallet each month, and will continue for another 3 yrs+/-; AND at some point the warranty will expire, and you'll be up $hits creek w/ out a paddle. We're all just trying to help each other.

[TLSteel]

MP3s aren't from Mars? What the hell?!?!?!

[PaulMP3]

Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
Its the same bushings on each car!
You have the EXACT same suspension.
THe tread is inclusive of each type of car.
The tread also will explain why a bushing will never do shit!
The thread will also tell you the exact part number to look for to know if they are truthful or fucking with you.


i thought they had thicker swaybars and slightly diufferent struts:confused:

[1sty]

Originally posted by paulmp3
i thought they had thicker swaybars and slightly diufferent struts:confused: They were also supposed to have bigger injector, didn't happen.

[scott42]

One would have thought that they would also have eliminated this problem with a new/different suspension setup...but like 1st said, "didn't happen"

[PaulMP3]

i remember reading the swaybars were thicker? anybody know what MM our fronts and backs are? I could have sworn they actually went through with it. Newf was mentioning this when buying his MSP...newf is this true?

[1sty]

Front maybe, rear, no way.

[scott42]

MSP guys/gals, plese pardon the invading martians known as the MP3 clunk people :D

We are peaceful beings.

[reeves_toy]

cool, i was wondering if any one has had this problem what is the link to find out more about this clunking noise

[MSP Pro]

From the Mazdaspeed Protege Preliminary Spec Sheet (paraphrased):

Front suspension has 27mm sway bar and polyurethane bushings.

Rear suspension has 20mm sway bar and rubber bushings.

My guess is that we get poly rear bushings and new end links. But that's just a SWAG. :cool:

[t3ase]

Originally posted by MSP Pro
But that's just a SWAG. :cool:
Sealed With A Goatse?

[Newf]

front is thicker on the speed....see above post. Struts have been retuned somewhat to make them a little stiffer. Poly front bushings, rubber rear. Rear is identical to mp3....BUt one of the main engineer's involved with the clunk claims the rear is different somehow from the mp3 although I've never been told why he said that, and I think it's BS. put the two cars on a ramp, and their identical part for part in the rear.

[Newf]

oh, and I tried poly rear's....didn't work. Was one of the attempts for a fix. Perhaps wrong size. Creaked like a bitch too.

[Equinox]

What's an MP3?

[DistantTea]

Jeeze I've read the damn clunk thread ok. I read it a long time ago. But what people are saying isn't going to happen. They aren't going to swap out multiple parts of the rear suspension for such a small number of cars (although its growing enough that they are seriously looking into options).

I'm not posting my crap to the MP3 forum, thats all I said.

Mazda IS NOT going to replace the sway bar, or reconfigure the rear setup. Mazda WILL find a solution through low cost alternatives that lessen the effect or solve the problem.

[MSP Pro]

SWAG = SCIENTIFIC Wild Ass Guess :D

[PaulMP3]

for most of us they already have replaced our endlinks and sway bar along with our bushings.

[Lodivigo]

Originally posted by DistantTea
The tech knew all about it and said that Mazda finally developed correct bushings and a permanent fix will be available in two weeks.

Its even written on my service printout that the fix will be available in two weeks.

I work at Sweeney and have been told the same thing, I'm gonna talk with the service manager tomorrow and try to find out where this info is coming from.

I'd take it with a grain of salt at this point though.

[Newf]

so would I. I haven't even tested these yet?

in the mail

[Teamzero]

Just had my clunk fixed on Tuesday last week. Still has not come back. Dealer replaced the bushings and the sway bar itself! (thought that wasa little odd but works for now)

[No.5]

I'm getting another set (will be my second) of the 165D's.....

No mention at the Dealership about newer bushings when they ordered these ones yesterday.

[No.5]

<b> NEW UPDATE AS OF SEPT.22/2003 FROM MAZDA CANADA</b>

Mazda Canada called me.....THERE IS A NEW BUSHING; it supercedes the 165D.

So, new Bushing rumors are True.

...be about 10 days till I get it.......

[scott42]

New bushings won't help...the endlinks will still wear out...damn; until the new parts include endlinks as we've been believing, I'm very skeptical.

[1sty]

Great 10 days before we can get another 1/2 assed fix.

[No.5]

Originally posted by scott42
New bushings won't help...the endlinks will still wear out...damn; until the new parts include endlinks as we've been believing, I'm very skeptical.

True....I'll still have to moniter the end-links. But atleast (**hopefully**) it will eliminate the Clunking; it's getting pretty bad.

I'll deal with the end-links, but the banging is driving me nuts.

[scott42]

For me, its not so much the noise (well, yes, its damn annoying) but the loss of handling performance that is evident as soon as the clunk comes alive... :(

[II-Savy]

Can anyone post a wave file of the sound? I think I have it but then again sometimes I don't think I do.....just to be sure.

[1sty]

There should be atleast 5 people at the meet that can verify it for you.

[Pmpkinhead]

My car is going in tonight (getting loaner) for the Clunk, Hesitation and Coolant Leak. I will post the results and bushing numbers on Wednesday morning.
1244 (msporange

[Micaspeed!]

Guys/gals, I have done a very nice billet alum end link set for my car with proper teflon lined rod ends, billet spacers, proper hardware, etc, wih gold anodizing. Will have pics soon, they are awesome, sort of look like my "camber arms" on my web site www.delsingmotorsport.com

Godspeed!
Dave

[jroof]

Out of curiosity...about how long before the endlinks wear out, longer than the bushings, right?

[1sty]

Originally posted by Micaspeed!
Guys/gals, I have done a very nice billet alum end link set for my car with proper teflon lined rod ends, billet spacers, proper hardware, etc, wih gold anodizing. Will have pics soon, they are awesome, sort of look like my "camber arms" on my web site www.delsingmotorsport.com

Godspeed!
Dave

So are you making these to sell?

[ping]

To replicate the sound of the bushing clunk, lock a friend in the trunk with a large hammer and leave him there a while. You'll eventually hear a sound remarkably like the "clunk"... mine's intermittent, but others have it worse.

[ disclaimer ] NOTE: I'M JUST KIDDING. YOU SHOULD NEVER LOCK A FRIEND IN THE TRUNK FOR ANY REASON, ESPECIALLY IF HE OR SHE IS HOLDING A LARGE HAMMER. [ /disclaimer ]