View Full Version : its official: alarm is possesed
pdhaudio83
09-18-2003, 01:13 AM
my dads msp alarm is defective. i know some people have had the same problem- the parking lights stay on after its locked. its getting fixed friday when we get it reflashed :D
how many people have had this issue?
MSPDAVE125
09-18-2003, 07:53 AM
Mine just started doing that yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!
First time i ever had to stick the key in the door!!!
Is this a common problem???
TSB or anything?
Side note: I had never exoerienced this hesitation much. Yesterday the car was extremely poopy to drive. Jerking and bogging all the time. Guess I go it too.
Time to book and appointment
FuriousMojo
09-18-2003, 09:30 AM
Fairly common, yes. Just get the alarm module replaced at the dealership under warranty.
ThrillRide
09-18-2003, 12:09 PM
ok here's one for you....i don't know if the car is supposed to do it. when i get in my trunk after a minute or 2 the car locks. only when i have the trunk open. so i hope no one leaves their key in the car.
does anyone know how to make that stop? don't want to take a chance and forget my key and be locked out.
MSPDAVE125
09-18-2003, 12:14 PM
Yeah.......Open and close on of your doors after you unlock the car using your remote. Once the door has been opened and closed again it won't do that.
It's a good feature to have but not when all you want to do is get in your trunk.
scott42
09-18-2003, 12:22 PM
yeah, the trunk thing is annoying, but its nice should you accidentally unlock your car and never get in, then forget to relock :)
ThrillRide
09-18-2003, 01:17 PM
good point. just glad i found out about it before i left my keys in it. how long did you all have your car before you started having problems witht the alarm? i have about 3000 should i expect it soon?
pdhaudio83
09-18-2003, 02:22 PM
lol expect it?
anyone even know why it happens in the first place??
Delivery_Guy
09-18-2003, 02:52 PM
I had the mystery alarm problem too. Took 3 trips to the dealer before they saw it in order to fix it. I hate knowing what's wrong with the car but then still having to prove it to them all the time.
t3ase
09-18-2003, 02:58 PM
Dunno why it happens, but I'm on my 3rd unit now with my 4th on it's way from Mazda. I'm trying to save money for a better alarm though.
.. Thank God it isn't just me havin' this problem!
Mine started about a week and a half ago, and it was driving me CRAZY. I couldn't even set my alarm without it starting to randomly go off about a half hour later -- so it turns out that now, I can't set my alarm at ALL. And that's not a good thing when you live in a college town.
I have an appointment this coming Thursday to get a bunch of stuff done on my MSP, though -- flashed, the left side of the rear skirt reattached as it's starting to come off, and now I can tell them what's wrong with the alarm.
Thanks a ton, as always!
Teamzero
09-18-2003, 03:15 PM
Just make sure that you bring both remotes to the dealer when you get the module replaced. (You get new module but not new remotes) I forgot one of mine so have to do an extra one hour trip down there tomorrow morning to get the other remote programmed.
BUT they finally heard my rattling front passenger speaker so I get that replaced tomorrow too!! YIppee!! (only been complaining about that for 6 months)
Teamzero -- you're having problems with your stereo??
I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing difficulties with the Kenwood equipment. Mine was all fine and dandy at first .. but now things seem to be heading downhill.
I'm relatively sure that I've either blown or damaged the Kenwood subwoofer .. I was spoiled by my last car, in which I had two 12" JL W3 subs in a HUGE custom ported box. The base was so loud I couldn't keep my rearview mirror attached to my window. No, I'm not kidding. After I tried regluing it with that apoxy stuff and it STILL fell off, I just gave up.
Anyway, the grid -- y'know, the 'speaker mesh' or whatever it's called -- that goes over the actual subwoofer speaker fell off. And now, whenever I have the radio crunked up to 24 or so on the volume scale -- there is some type of God-awful rattling coming from what seems to be the back panel beneath the rear window.
It's driving me insane. Am I gonna have to rip out that back panel and Dynamat it or what?!
Also, I noticed that you're from the Wilkes-Barre area .. Have you gone anywhere yet to get your MSP flashed? I'm trying to find a dealership an hour or two away that can do it, because the ones around here don't have a clue.
.. But thanks about the tips on the remotes. I would've had to make a second trip, too.
Geoffsurfs
09-18-2003, 03:36 PM
thats funny that you guys talk about how the doors lock (trunk) on its own. I was surfing and when i got out i went to change and set the keys down and closed the trunk. Freeking had to wait for my girlfriend to bring my extra keys to me....which took about 3 hours!
Dont lock yourselves out!
kineticSpicyMSP
09-18-2003, 07:45 PM
MINE IS MORE THAN POSSESED.. .
My car started doing the whole "lights stay on thing" then as of yesterday I got out of my car and the small lights were on and i had not even sat my alarm, then i could usually make them go off just by getting in my car and starting it.. well i did that and they still didn't go off. so i took the fuse out.. still they didnt go off. so i went to class and got back 5 hours later to a dead battery.. how fun....
I took it last week to get fixed and they had to order the part. well they called yesterday night to tell me that it was in, so i took it over to get fixed and they had ordered the wrong part, so now i have to disconnect my (+) battery cable so my battery does not run down till next week..
Oh yeah my horn stopped working also..
YEAH FOR MAZDA!!!!
nomahh
09-18-2003, 09:30 PM
Karmic revenge.
Teamzero
09-19-2003, 10:49 AM
GaBerry67MS035,
I bought the car at the Williamsport dealer but have been getting it serviced in Allentown. I really did not know about the ECU flash until you mentioned it and I read up on it. If either of these dealers will do it, I'll let you know.
The Kenwood was actually OK. Dealer took the door panel off and we noticed that the plastic plug and wire on the back of the speaker was bumping into it. This is probably what was causing the speaker rattle sound. Had it repalced anyway and all sounds ok again. KNow what you mean by big bass. Last car had 2 12's in it and although the Kenwood sounds alright for stock, sometimes miss the old days.
Teamzero --
Allentown, eh? Almost back in Philly, where I bought my Mazdaspeed .. I might wind up just going back to Faulkner and getting my Speed flashed there. At least I know those people are compitent.
Just to let everyone know, I'm trying to clue in Rider Auto that's located in State College to the flash and MazdaSpeeds in general. They have a Laser Blue Mica MSP on the showroom floor .. but from what I've seen so far, that's about ALL they've got. I don't think they know much about the MSPs. But I've been emailing and calling to try to get in touch with the Service Manager, to alert him to the flash and whatnot.
.. So for anyone in the Central PA area, I'm tryin' to get us a dealership with a brain, LOL!!
Teamzero
09-22-2003, 08:22 AM
Drove one hour to the dealer and had the alarm replaced last Monday... Drove an hour back to the dealer to have the other remote reprogrammed on Friday... Exactly one week later on this lovely Monday morning, my lights stayed on again as I exited the car in the parking lot at work. Arrrggggg.....
Teamzero
09-22-2003, 12:20 PM
GaBerry67MS035,
Allentown Mazda just called me and they claim that there is a newly released alarm module and the dealership is getting a few of the new mods this week. So early next week, I should be able to get one installed.
Also, since you asked, the service Manager is aware of a new computer flash update. He claims that they will do this for me also when I bring the car in next week.
Peace!
VegasMSP
09-22-2003, 01:41 PM
I just don't get it! I get my module replaced w/ a new one this morning. Guess what! I get home from the dealership and arm the alarm, the freaking parking lights stay on AGAIN!:mad:. So I called the dealership and they told me to come back tomorrow. *Sigh* It's never ending. For the past 3 weeks w/ my old module I had to pull the fuse from the fuse holder of the module to shut off the lights completely because they came on w/o me arming the alarm :wtf:. So to start my car I put the fuse in, arm/disarm alarm (module is tied in w/ inigtion), start the car, pull the fuse (so the parking lights and horn shut off) and drive around. Then start this process all over again when I have to start the car. This is such :bs:. I'm about ready to rip this alarm out of this car. Sorry to bitch! This is just getting old quick for a car that has barely 1500 miles on it.
Had the same alarm problem (alarm arms and leaves parking lights on, no matter if armed via the remote or by locking with the key) at 4000 miles, they replaced the alarm brain so I expect I'll be back at the dealership in another 4000 miles. I found that locking the door using the inside power lock button didn't set the alarm but at least locked the car.
I've developed the habit of opening the trunk by unlocking the car, then popping the trunk using the lever next to the seat - that way it doesn't self-lock. I also developed the habit of keeping my keys in my pocket no matter what after having my old VW self-lock at the wrong time...
Wish I didn't even HAVE this alarm, but since it's wired in you can't disconnect it... or can you?
Teamzero
09-22-2003, 04:06 PM
Can you "Lemon Law" the car after 3 alarm fixes?
MazdaspeedZOOM
09-22-2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Teamzero
Can you "Lemon Law" the car after 3 alarm fixes?
Now this is florida and I pulled it from another thread, but it's pretty similiar all over.
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Does the Lemon Law Apply to My Vehicle?
In order to find out if you could qualify for protection under the Lemon Law, please take a moment to answer the following questions, either YES or NO. If you answer NO to any of these questions, simply click NO.
Did you purchase or lease your vehicle NEW in the State of Florida? Yes No
Does your vehicle have a defect or condition that substantially impairs the use, value or safety of the vehicle? Yes No
a) Have you taken the vehicle to the dealership or an authorized service agent at least 3 times for the SAME substantial defect or condition? Yes No
-OR-
b) Has the vehicle been out of service for at least 15 cumulative calendar days due to one or more substantial defects or conditions? Yes No
(NOTE: If you answered yes to 3b, keep in mind that you must have at least 30 days out of service before requesting arbitration.)
Have you mailed by registered or express mail, return receipt requested, to the manufacturer of your vehicle (not dealer) the Motor Vehicle Defect Notification (MVDN) form which is located in your Lemon Law Handbook provided at the time of purchase? Yes No
Have you had a final repair attempt/inspection after the manufacturer received the MVDN? Yes No
Do you have work orders to verify the repairs to your vehicle? Yes No
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1A The Florida Lemon Law applies to NEW or demonstrator motor vehicles which are sold in the State of Florida. With few exceptions, a previously titled vehicle (used car) is not covered by the Lemon Law.
2A A substantial defect or condition is a problem that substantially impairs the use, value or safety of the vehicle. There is no easy answer to determine what types of defects or conditions substantially impair a vehicle’s use, value or safety. It depends on the facts of each case. Minor or trivial defects, or defects caused by accident, abuse, neglect, modification or alteration by anyone other than an authorized service agent are not covered.
3A There must be three repair attempts for the same defect or condition, OR at least 15 cumulative calendar days out of service for one or more defects or conditions, before submitting the MVDN. If you do not have the required number of repair attempts or days out of service, then continue to take the vehicle to the dealer for repairs.
4A After you have either at least three failed repair attempts for the same problem OR at least 15 cumulative calendar days out of service, you must file the Motor Vehicle Defect Notification by registered or express mail, return receipt requested to the manufacturer to give the manufacturer a final repair attempt or inspection on your vehicle.
5A If you put the manufacturer on notice for the defects or conditions, the manufacturer has 10 days from receipt of the MVDN to respond and direct you to a reasonable accessible repair facility to have a final repair attempt or inspection on your vehicle. If you receive no response from the manufacturer within 10 days after the date of receipt, the law states the manufacturer has then waived their right to the final repair attempt and you may proceed with your Lemon Law rights.
6A You must have work orders to support your claim. If you do not have copies of the work orders, contact your dealer for a list of all repair work performed on your vehicle.
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