Friends.........need ideas for new car

[Dr.Sound]

hehe, title says it all

i know the first two cars to be suggested are Evo and STi.....mind u i'm a student and i could barely make car payments and insurance on my MSP (bless her soul).

so just throw them at me!

i have a few ideas, but i might be forgetting something that i might regret later on :D

thanks

[NCMP3]

Depends on the cash situation. You have alot of good options Me personally I would get something used. Like a Rx-7 or Supra or soemthing like that.

[jaymode]

srt-4. please no flames. or maybe a used wrx. If you wanna wait you could maybe get that ion redline thing but that is kinda making me sick thinking and looking at it. Or another msp?

[Notorious]

I like the used rx-7 idea. Or maybe you want to get a new msp? You already have the aftermarket parts for it.

[StarvingRussian]

Ferrari Enzo

[mp3moose]

Lotus elise FINIALLY is coming to the States I believe soon. Check that beast out.

moose

[Dr.Sound]

another MSP sounds good, but i would ONLY buy orange, and most of them are now gone.

i was thinking maybe a 1st gen RX-7.......but i need something with more than 2 seats.

cash is low, that's why imma finance. unless it's like 2k, then i can fork it out.

[ELEmental59437]

1989 Geo Tracker.... j/k

If you have the money, why not go for a used badass car like a Supra or Rx-7 like NCMP3 suggested. My friend just got a 95 Integra GSR for a little over 5, I wouldnt mind that car.

[VegasMSP]

2003.5 MSP :p

[Ryan]

i say either srt-4 or the new euro focus thats supposed to be over here shortly...

[StarvingRussian]

Buy a regular protege and turbo it. Faster than the MSP.

[kcbhiw]

Why not consider something with a BP engine. You said no on 2 seats (rules out the Miata), so why not maybe an (91-96) Escort GT or (90-94) Protege LX. The BP engine is awsome, especially when it comes to building them. Hell, they were designed to be turboed. :D

[boostisgood]

350z enough said. :D

[Ryan]

Originally posted by boostisgood
350z enough said. :D \

i would never buy a 350z unless it was the turbo one..

[Dr.Sound]

Originally posted by boostisgood
350z enough said. :D
^ lol

where's my grandma gonna sit?

[Dr.Sound]

oh, i was looking at an Xb on edmunds....

supercharged is like 17g's



EDIT: dang, just looked at it some more......that "rear drums" just kills it for me

[TitaniumSpeed]

Originally posted by Ryan
i say either srt-4 or the new euro focus thats supposed to be over here shortly...
is that the focus RS...nice machine but $30,000 for 220hp:rolleyes:...i believe those are the stats i've read...anywhooz you can get a scoobie rex @ carsdirect.com for like $21500 (2003) actually $21463...just looked it up. Gotta luv the MSP though:cool:

[Ryan]

not 30,000 lol.. its like msrp'n at like 20 and sale for prolly 25.. :) my friend is gonna buy one he's ontop of this shiat hehe.

[TitaniumSpeed]

The AWD Focus Rally Sport....man thats cheap...every estimation i've seen is $30,000...cool

[Dr.Sound]

2.5 rs?

[1sty]

Simple man, I pay $250/month with only $2000 out of pocket at signing for my P5. It may not have the MSP handling, stereo or turbo but it hadles great in my opinoin and I compare it to my MP3. The stereo is still doing me ok and I am more picky then anyone else here about that stuff. The lack of power isn't a big deal unless I get back in the MP3-T.

[TitaniumSpeed]

The one i'm thinking of is the AWD 2.0 turbocharged to 220hp...can't remember what magazine....me thinks Automobile Mag..was a possibility of bringin it to the states next year (though it really doesn't help your i-need-a-car-like yesterday-situation)

[DiscreetSpeed]

ummh how about a mazda6?

[TitaniumSpeed]

Originally posted by DiscreetSpeed
ummh how about a mazda6?
good picK(thumb)

[Dr.Sound]

yeah, i was reading a newspaper today (while sitting at DMV for 3 1/2 hours waiting to get my temporary driver's license) and 6 got the highest crash rating out of cars in its class in a 5 mile bumper test.

but...........P5 and 6 are too big for me.
for some reason i like smaller cars........a regular protege is cool........i might test drive one tomorrow.

........car gotta be stick ONLY

i was thinking to find an older festiva, or a rabbit.........those are sweet little cars

[Ryan]

yeah,, awd focus supposidly from what i understand 25k is about the round figure and ballpark figure i been seeing.

[2K3 MSP]

I know I'm about a 7 hour drive from you, but if you're really interested in a Spicy Orange MSP, they've got one in Stockton(where I got mine) for $18,333. I don't know if you can get them cheaper than that...They've also got a black on left, and a Titanium and a Yellow as well. Full price on those i believe though.
As far as a WRX, insurance should be about the same as a MSP, and I almost bought one for under $20,000 right before I got the MSP. A 2 year old WRX should cost less then the MSP for sure by now.

[1sty]

Dude the P5 is smaller then the sedan.
Inside there is no real difference to the driver and the car is 3" shorter!

[FBI14]

Mazda3 or a new protege. Youd probably be able to get a good deal for a protege considering they wont be made in another 6 months

[Pkay]

if you're tight on money do not buy a used rx7


1st and 2nd gen rx7's aren't all that fast stock but can be VERY fast.... however that takes a lot of time, work, and money.


3rd gen rx7's run 13's stock and you can likely find one for $15k that is decent....... but your yearly maintenance is going to be quite high.


It's pretty safe to say if you're looking for a daily driver you might wanna think twice about buying an rx7.

Or buy a 3rd gen for fun and a beat up corsica to drive around daily :)



Outside that..... maybe buy a used WRX or hell..... buy a used MSP :)

[nmaino]

1988-1990 BMw e30 M3. It has two doors, four seats and a nice 190hp engine. Plus they are very fun to drive and cheap to own.

[TurboBoostMazda]

Victor - I found a brand new Spicy Orange MSP in Irvine. They have one in stock...

[snowman4us]

1993 Civic DX(EG)...put in a B18c1, rebuild the engine and what not...a friend of myne had that and it made 320WHP at 12psi...if u cranked the boost to 30psi it whould be close to 600whp... but u have to put 20k into engine work to have that work out.
but its fun to EAT corvetts in a civic and have the corvet driver be imbaresed...

320WHP on 91 octane...can go to 18psi on pump gas..
320WHP+ 1800lb car= some major ASS kicking...also the insurance on a 1993 civic is dirt cheap

or get a 1997 M3

[turboge]

just pick up a used MSP off ebay for like 15-17k. Otherwise head to your local dodge dealer and pickup a shiny new SRT-4 and be done with it. Your grandma will love the chiropractic like adjustments associated with boost onset and you won't have to worry about your buddies messing up the power windows in the rear.

[alexlitov]

You can buy a used MSP for under 18k including tax. You just need to look hard enough to find one. Don't get a car that will cost twice as much to maintain that the original price of it.

[Aricjm15]

why not an integra GSR?
they made one that was a 4 door

[Natey]

The P5 is actually shorter than an MSP. ;)

Here's a couple pics of Rishie's P5, just to ponder over....(if Ghettostation is up.:rolleyes: )
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid78/p5a2e8f4bff0a600546b2c2fe8b0b7b23/fb26a824.jpg

JIC coilovers and 200+hp ;)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid78/p1a70cc36955e52d21bf06e7aee85d552/fb26afac.jpg

You can get a P5 for around $13500 these days. That plus $2000 for the suspension and $4000 for the turbo kit,(I'm rounding up), and you have a mighty quick car for under 20,000 bucks.

[SpicyMchaggis]

import a sport20 from germany..so its already U.S. steering spec.

[hawaiiannights]

Volkswagon Jetta 1.8Turbo or Passat
Audi A4 1.8T 1997 and above have the turbo( my previous car)
86 Toyota Corolla (good luck finding one)
Mitsubishi Eclipse Turbo
Nissan 300z Turbo
Lexus GS300
MR2 Turbo

[Dr.Sound]

^ u know, out of all those above the i would take the 86 corolla in a heart beat. I drool over every AE86 i see.

i'm leaning towards a cheap (and fun) car now....82 rabbit, or 84 golf. Maybe a 78 corolla, or datsun. if i can find an AE86 to buy of some grandma i will!
after what happened my insurance will be hella high, so i wouldnt be able to afford full coverage, at least not for a while

[uclap5]

mk 2 or mk 3 golf/ gti. i love those things.

p5... join us.... :)

probe... mazda cousin ;)

the old 2 door impreza, i like thems much better than the current wrx style.

78 corolla is awesome as well. rally beater car right there. :D

datsun 280zx is badass.

porsche 944. absolutly one of my most favorite sport cars. though hefty repair costs.

[fatorangecat]

1st generation rx-7 with a hunk-o-american V8 in it. There's a guy that sells conversion kits (on the web)-- from what he says its mostly a drop in affair.

His rational for removing the wankel is that there are more good RX-7 bodies than good wankels so why not drop in a V8...

[Kenetix]

Alot of the FC3S's came with a back seat. But if you dont need one, I'd either go with a GSL-SE or a FD3S.

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[Kenetix]

There is no fucking point in owning an RX-7 if you are NOT going to have a rotary in it, this if or all the V8 transplant FAGS.

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[Elderain]

Originally posted by VegasMSP
2003.5 MSP :p

I concur :)

[o.g.sk8er]

Datsun 510's are awesome and cheap.

Many things can be done to these cars.

[1FASTMP5]

what about a 91-92 golf gti, 91-93 n/a mr2, or go test drive an srt-4 2004 only they are going to have the limited slip and you might feel otherwise about getting a dodge after a test drive.
or a 2.5 rs is cool to.....

[jophus14]

if your gonna get a MSP, make sure you get either the orange again or the black. getting the 2003.5 MSP is like downgrading after having the orange one. the saturn is fast, but it's still a saturn. the srt-4, wrx and evo are nice, but getting more and more common. a supre or rx-7 would be badass. that's the best choice so far. just stay away from the hondas please.

[fastdrvr23]

Hmmm...

I like the New Mitsu. Lancer Ralliart... That'd probably be my choice for a sporty compact if I were going by price for a new car...

My list would take up 10 pages if I listed all the used ones to look for. ;)

[loj68]

old, cheap, and Japanese........easy to maintain and cheap to own and fix. The last thing you want is a car payment or debt when you're a college student. If a car payment is more than 10% of your monthly income then you can't afford it. The words "can barely afford" should never precede "car payment". Too many kids get over their head buying new cars.

[charles]

Originally posted by Dr.Sound
I was thinking maybe a 1st gen RX-7.......but i need something with more than 2 seats.

2+2

[Natey]

Hmmm. I like the hatchbacks better, but here's a corolla for sale (http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/vdetail.jtmpl?car_id=140699102&dealer_id=&car_year=1986&make=TOYOTA&distance=any&max_price=&model=COROL&sort_type=distance&advcd_on=n&end_year=1987&min_price=&address=94115&search_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1983&=&color=&cardist=680)

Or how about a 240sx (http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/vdetail.jtmpl?car_id=139758343&dealer_id=46727746&car_year=1991&make=NISSAN&distance=25&max_price=&model=240SX&sort_type=distance&advcd_on=n&end_year=2004&min_price=&certified=n&address=94115&search_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1983&=&color=&cardist=24) ? Not too bad for $3000, IMO.

[SpicyMchaggis]

Hey, I have a few connections you can do a '95 240SX and we can drop a RB25DET in it..

[EXA4DRIVER]

Originally posted by Ryan
\

i would never buy a 350z unless it was the turbo one..

Huh? The Z33 350Z's don't even have a model with a turbo. You must be talking about a Z32 300ZX twin turbo, which by the way is a great car and you can find a good condition one for around $15K.

Mini Cooper S would be kinda cool. Suprisingly alot of leg room, even in the rear.

[EXA4DRIVER]

Originally posted by SpicyMchaggis
Hey, I have a few connections you can do a '95 240SX and we can drop a RB25DET in it..


That is a great idea. My friend's boss just dropped an RB25 in his S14 shell. But for the budget minded, the SR20DET is just perfect.

[Ryan]

Originally posted by EXA4DRIVER
Huh? The Z33 350Z's don't even have a model with a turbo. You must be talking about a Z32 300ZX twin turbo, which by the way is a great car and you can find a good condition one for around $15K.

Mini Cooper S would be kinda cool. Suprisingly alot of leg room, even in the rear.

lol.. there are 3 where i live 350z TURBO is written in cursive badge across the back :) i know the difference between a 300zx tt and a 350z. considering i have about 5 friends with 300zx tt :)

[EXA4DRIVER]

Originally posted by Ryan
lol.. there are 3 where i live 350z TURBO is written in cursive badge across the back :) i know the difference between a 300zx tt and a 350z. considering i have about 5 friends with 300zx tt :)

Boy, I'd like to see that because Nissan doesn't even have them on the website www.nissanusa.com The Z33 model 350Z only comes with a naturally aspirated engine the VQ35DE

3.5-liter DOHC 24-valve V6 engine
287 hp @ 6,200 rpm
274 lb-ft @ 4,800 rpm
Emissions — LEV
Continuously Variable Valve Timing Control
System (CVTCS)
High-flow intake system
Nissan Direct Ignition System
Platinum-tipped spark plugs
Electronic drive-by-wire throttle

No mention of a turbo. And oh yeah, I have a 350Z on order so if there was a turbo model, I would have ordered it :)

[HondaToMazda]

Victor,

If you want another MSP in Orange I can call my dealer that I got it from. They will give you a good price.. BTW its up in Lancaster.

[charles]

Originally posted by kcbhiw
Why not consider something with a BP engine. You said no on 2 seats (rules out the Miata), so why not maybe an (91-96) Escort GT or (90-94) Protege LX. The BP engine is awsome, especially when it comes to building them. Hell, they were designed to be turboed. :D

BTW if you want you can drive my car to see what the fabled BP powered car feels like. :D Mine is kinda messed up though

[MisterT]

Depends on whether you get new or used. An RX7 is nice, but try financing one, it's a personal loan with high interest, so you would have to pay all out or get something a bank would consider a car loan. SRT4 has the most bang for your buck as far as new cars are concerned. Also, someone mentioned modifying an ES. Not a bad idea, but a lot of money spent on mods to get it up to or faster than a MSP!:( What about the Mazda3 when it comes out? You'd be one of the 1st, but you probably need something really soon do to no wheels.

[ZoomZoomH]

Originally posted by Kenetix
Alot of the FC3S's came with a back seat. But if you dont need one, I'd either go with a GSL-SE or a FD3S.

which year/model FC's came with backseats?????????????? :confused:

[HondaToMazda]

You have to remember that he should still have his MSP... A quick Engine swap and wheels (if they are still good) You got yourself a MSP. Depending on wether the shocks are blown or not he could use the Suspension from that car. Replacing the ES sway bars will be nice. Taking the LSD out of the transmission would be very nice as well. You could even take out the full interior and swap it over. STereo System... Victor if you are in any way considering of buying say.. a used Protege ES talk to me and I will see what I can do about the motor swap and how much it will cost.

[Kenetix]

86-88 had a 2+2 option.

[ZoomZoomH]

must be tiny backseats, because there ain't no space back there!!!

[charles]

Originally posted by ZoomZoomH
must be tiny backseats, because there ain't no space back there!!!
I've seen them for sale in the For Sale section of RX7club, both first and second gen!

I"m sure they are tiny...

[Ryan]

Originally posted by HondaToMazda
You have to remember that he should still have his MSP... A quick Engine swap and wheels (if they are still good) You got yourself a MSP. Depending on wether the shocks are blown or not he could use the Suspension from that car. Replacing the ES sway bars will be nice. Taking the LSD out of the transmission would be very nice as well. You could even take out the full interior and swap it over. STereo System... Victor if you are in any way considering of buying say.. a used Protege ES talk to me and I will see what I can do about the motor swap and how much it will cost.

i'd agree with you but im not so sure whats left of the outside or motor i mean u've seen the pictures

[HondaToMazda]

True, I think it would be nice project. We have a Customer with the Protege ES coming in to have a MSP Suspension Conversion. I just think it would be neat =) All in all they are the same motors, just oone has a turbo.

[122 Vega]

Why would he still have his MSP? I am sure that is a total, and then the insurance company takes possesion. They may offer to sell it back cheap, but unless it was paid for, which it wasn't, he won't get it back.

Britt

[HondaToMazda]

Britt,
You have to ruin hopes and dreams for us dont you. =(

[Allen]

Nobody mentioned the ITR? My first love when I got into the fast pocket-rockets scene. Should be a good buy now if you can find one that's not beat up.

How about a higher mileage WRX? hee hee.

240sx.... drool....

I mean, if you plan on future modifications and stuff.

[FrozenMazda]

I got my MSP because I totaled my '96 MX-6 (rest in peace) this summer. They're not too expensive and I personally like the body design better than the probe. If you want a car that handles, the 4cylinder with a manual is great because of the weight distribution. If you want straight line acceleration, the V-6 is the way to go, but it's a little nose heavy.

I can also vouch for the safety systems in the MX-6. The seatbelts work great and the airbags do deploy when they are supposed to.

Oh... and insurance isn't too bad either.

Good luck

-Roach

[FC3s Boy]

i would go with a 01 es protege and try to save up for the turbo kit.

[Captain KRM P5]

i was going to say-whats wrong with another mazdaspeed?

[Dr.Sound]

see!
i didnt even think of MX6 or 240sx.
i like both of those.........umm, is the MX6 rear wheel drive ?:) sorry, i'm not familiar with it.

[funnylittlman]

Nope,

The MX6 is just like the Ford Probe : FWD (same chassis too)

[redwagon02]

'93 mustang cobra

[HondaToMazda]

Victor.... MSP.... dont give up!

[Dr.Sound]

i dont think i can afford a new car anymore.......

[ZoomingMSP]

why not a early 90s supra? pretty cheap and with a upgraded turbo these cars run strong. I see them here where i live all the time for sale and they are not that much at all. Just food for thought......

[slug420]

judging by what u have said, i say definitely go with a orange msp.

and the fact that they dont have any left enar you can be seen as a positive - you can pick up a used one for crap cheap probably

[Kenetix]

Honestly, the FC3S is the best bang for the buck. 4500 gets you a Turbo II with most likely a newer engine.

[ZoomZoomH]

if you're looking for a FC, find a late year ones, like 90-91

quite a few changes under the hood to simplify things and make it more reliable :)

[Dr.Sound]

^ good to know, thanks Hank


P.S. love your avatar

[unwrittenLaw]

You should get another MSP...

[scoobiesport]

Id say '02 WRX but im a bit biased :D you can sometimes find a stage 2-3 wrx for around 18k-20k at www.clubwrx.net in the personal sales...

thats my 0.02 cents

[1sty]

I just got a call form a Suby dealer yestureday about the $500 WRX cash back and 3.9% financing offer on 2004s.