My Messed Up Car Help Me

[CatchMe]

ANYONE HAVE ANY SIMILAR PROBLEMS - MY CAR HESITATES - HOPS, STUTTERS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT MOSTLY AT 3000 RPM- VERY LITTLE POWER - GETS WORSE THE LONGER I DRIVE IT - LOTS OF INTERIOR HEAT - FEELS LIKE AN OVEN - BUT TEMP GAUGE READS NORMAL - COMING DOWN FROM 5TH GEAR AND 80 MPH AS I SLOW DOWN IT SOUNDS LIKE A DAMN AIRPLANE LANDING.

[grishulia]

One more problem... YOUR FORGOT TO PRESS THE "Caps Lock" BUTTON!!!

[bud_d]

Originally posted by CatchMe
ANYONE HAVE ANY SIMILAR PROBLEMS - MY CAR HESITATES - HOPS, STUTTERS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT MOSTLY AT 3000 RPM- VERY LITTLE POWER - GETS WORSE THE LONGER I DRIVE IT - LOTS OF INTERIOR HEAT - FEELS LIKE AN OVEN - BUT TEMP GAUGE READS NORMAL - COMING DOWN FROM 5TH GEAR AND 80 MPH AS I SLOW DOWN IT SOUNDS LIKE A DAMN AIRPLANE LANDING.

try searching for hesitation, it's a known issue, and mazda is working on a ecu flash to resolve it.

[CatchMe]

my bad

[1sty]

Welcome to hesitation, have a nice day (thumb)

[CatchMe]

any mods out there to fix the problem?? What's the point of spending 20 g's on a car that runs flat at 3,000 rpm's??

[CatchMe]

i am so frustrated

[1sty]

Originally posted by CatchMe
What's the point of spending 20 g's on a car that runs flat at 3,000 rpm's?? Yet 300 people get pissed when i warn would be buyers about it :wtf:

Injen intakes help out a bit and I believe Ion has claimed there intecoller will get rid of most of it.

Mazda or I should say people testing for mazda has mentioned a newly tuned computer program will soon be at dealers to fix the problem. YOu will just need to call your dealer about it once its out and they will reprogram the cars computer.

[bud_d]

also joes MBC, and FPR kits have had good results.

[Wiggles6983]

You can also try resetting the ECU, has worked for for about 500 miles. Just unplug the battery, tap the brakes, and let it sit for about a hour.

[CatchMe]

Really?? how bad was your hesitation before you tried this???

[MazdaDryvr]

Hesitation? what are you talking about? This car is so fast I caused a temporal rift on the drive to work. :D

[Elderain]

It gets worse the longer you drive because of heat soak also :)

[AGR]

For about $25.00 Joe Ps FPR kit will solve the hesitation problem. God! You MP3 owners love to make it sound like a big deal.

Go here....
http://www.joepmbc.com/

[CatchMe]

it may not be a big deal to you but when I can't go over 40 mph going up a small hill with the pedal on the floor then it is a big deal to me

[1sty]

Actualy you have mostly MSP members responding here.
Also not everyone has said the FPR kit solved it. Several were rather pissed that it didn't actualy.

[AGR]

Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
Actualy you have mostly MSP members responding here.
Also not everyone has said the FPR kit solved it. Several were rather pissed that it didn't actualy.

Here, perhaps. But look around. It worked fine on mine.

[MSPDAVE125]

Originally posted by Elderain
It gets worse the longer you drive because of heat soak also :)

It'll only get worse if the car idles for an extended period of time.

ALL turbo cars experience heat soak.

NO turbo car will experience Heat soak in motion.

Unless yo have completely sealed the front end and wrapped the I/C in Saran. Then we might have issues.

[yashooa]

Well my car has never really had it. It only has a pusling it does under WOT, in certain gears at certain RPMS and that hardly ever occurs.
I feel for those who have it bad. Mainly my car just has smooth linear power.

[ping]

The ECU reset works, but plan on about 5 minutes to reprogram that d@mn radio... and you can get around the hesitation a little by throttle modulation - getting out of the throttle a bit can actually give you more power, say, when you're on a constant uphill. Cool weather helps too, so we should see a decrease in hesitation complaints come Fall.

There's one orange MSP near me who's apparently pursuing a lemon-law rebate due to the hesitation, and I don't think he's that far off (I'd support him/her if I knew himher, would like details...). I'm not that frustrated yet and am holding off a month or two to see about Mazda's reprogramming. We should continue to make some stink about it though - heck, RX-8 owners were given a $500 gift card because THEIR cars didn't make the hp promised by the factory, so the precedent is set.

Check boostisgood's thread (the 4-page one); he and chojin are keeping a really good eye on things, have contacted Mazda and everything.

Good luck!

-L

[AGR]

.....and I do believe, Yashooa is the only member here with a MAZDASPEED that hasn't experienced it.

[1sty]

Originally posted by yashooa
Well my car has never really had it. It only has a pusling it does under WOT, in certain gears at certain RPMS and that hardly ever occurs.
I feel for those who have it bad. Mainly my car just has smooth linear power.

Thats the weird thing, how does one car have it and another not?
When I drove an MSP with it, I was literaly thrown foward in the seat when the hesitation struck. There nothing un noticable about it. With the gass floored the car was accelerating then all of a sudden...not.

Very odd.

[1sty]

Originally posted by AGR
.....and I do believe, Yashooa is the only member here with a MAZDASPEED that hasn't experienced it.

Slug mentioned he is hesitation free a few times.

[OrangeAppeal]

Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
Slug mentioned he is hesitation free a few times.

Nope....he's got it too

[CatchMe]

All that I know is that i want what I want when I want it and right now I want my car to drive normal

[1sty]

Oh didn't the dealer tell you, this isn't the car for that.
This is the car for suprises after the fact. Every day is like christmas :D

[CatchMe]

I would just like to know how or why this problem wasn't identified before the cars hit the showrooms. I don't really have that big of a problem as long as they fix it soon.....they are just risking consumer confidence in a car that has great potential.

[1sty]

They knew, they were hoping no one would bitch this much. :D
Unfortunity it seem much of the cars power making system was a bit rushed. And there they have an exuse. Expain reusing the same suspension that the MP3 owners have been bitching about for 2 years before the MSP came out!

On the bright side the LSD seems solid :D.

[MSPDAVE125]

Originally posted by CatchMe
I would just like to know how or why this problem wasn't identified before the cars hit the showrooms. I don't really have that big of a problem as long as they fix it soon.....they are just risking consumer confidence in a car that has great potential.

Because if this problem was identified before they hit the show room, we would all have picked up our cars with 500 miles on 'em and bagged to shit. Because the only way for Mazda to find out about it is by driving the car.

This way we found out about it, and the Mazda tech guys get a make work project.

Sucks to be us eh????

[yashooa]

Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
Thats the weird thing, how does one car have it and another not?
When I drove an MSP with it, I was literaly thrown foward in the seat when the hesitation struck. There nothing un noticable about it. With the gass floored the car was accelerating then all of a sudden...not.

Very odd.

Yeah, I read that. I would be IRRATE if my car was doing that.
Mines does a wierd vroom vroom vroom pulse under WOT but again not all the time. Just on occasions usally when the car has not been ran for a while. Sometimes in 5th when I am driving down the highway if I barely give it gas I will feel the stumble but it is very very very slight. That's why I never bought the Joe P FPR.
My car just runs so damn good most of the time. I also spend alot of time baby driving it to get better MPG so perhaps my ECU behaves differently than someone who drives like his or her ass is always on fire :p Supposedly we have a "learning" ECU. Some kind of adaptive driving thing or such.
I am very curious to see what the flash will do.

[1sty]

Originally posted by yashooa
so perhaps my ECU behaves differently than someone who drives like his or her ass is always on fire :p Supposedly we have a "learning" ECU. Some kind of adaptive driving thing or such.
I am very curious to see what the flash will do. As we know this was my other theory as most MSP developed hesitation and didn't have it during test drives.

[OrangeAppeal]

Originally posted by CatchMe
I would just like to know how or why this problem wasn't identified before the cars hit the showrooms. I don't really have that big of a problem as long as they fix it soon.....they are just risking consumer confidence in a car that has great potential.

Everything you are bitching about in this thread is exactly what most of us MSP owners (me included) have been bitching about. There is a "fix" that Mazda will be coming out according to Chojin and Boostisgood, but until we all see it and get it, you shouldn't just rely on Mazdas word and everyone elses word that there is going to be a fix.

What you should do, is schedule an appointment with your dealership for service. When the service mgr asks you what your bringing it in for, tell him that it is hesitating/boggin/whatever you want to call it. Be sure to tell him that you want to take the car out with the tech who will be doing the service/inspection soo they know exactly what you are complaining about. This may do nothing more than put a record in Mazdas database of the complaint of the hesitation....chances are, unless your dealership has dealt with someone with the same problem, they are clueless to the problem. They might try to tell you that it is Turbo Lag (which it is not, and if you know exactly what turbo lag is, ask him to explain exactly what it is to you....just to see if he knows what he is talking about). Chances are, if they know about it, they will tell you that there is a fix in the works, but we have no exstimated release date for it.....they might even just tell you that it is a normal characteristic of the car (which technically it is, because you can grab just about any MSP and it will have this hesitation characteristic.....that doesn't mean that it is right or should be happening). If they know nothing about it and are not willing to look into it, or tell you that there isn't a problem, ask for the District Customer Service Representatives phone number, because you would like to give him a call....that should get you somewhere.

In summary, your not alone on how you feel, and many of us have been dealing with it since the begining of the year. I highly recommend that you bring your car to your dealership to be serviced for the hesitation...who knows, mabye you will be the first non-test-consumer to receive the ecu fix....just let your dealership know you have a problem with your car and you are not happy with the problem and you expect a resolution to it. And be sure not to take "no there isn't a problem...it's just ____" for an answer.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Peace,
Jesse

[CatchMe]

sounds good I am headed there after work - i am on my own personal crusade so maybe i will be the whiner to break Mazda's back.....I'll let you guys no what line of B.S they feed me