(2003 Mazda Mazdaspeed Protege 2.0l Turbo [Archive]

tritonheat1

03-26-2002, 06:04 PM

(HOLY S*%^) THE 2003 MAZDA MAZDASPEED PROTEGE 2.0L TURBO, is really coming out showing at the new york auto show debut." It features 2.0L DOHC 16-Valve I-4 T-25 garrett turbocharged intercooled (LSD) limited slip differential, new added clutch set with cross drilled rotors, sporting racing harts 17"rims on bridgestone potenza's ROe40's.

Performance: Alot of Zoom,Zoom and Boom Boom 2

170hp 5500rpm's (estimated)
155ft-lbs 4500rpm's (estimated)
curb weight 1279kbs,- 2843lbs
height 55.5 inches
colors black, and vibrant orange
2000 only made in U.S. and canada

the best thing is it sports is a new KENWOOD Excelon-KDC-MP919 450-watt stereo system. 6-speaker system 2 front 6x9 coaxial 2 rear speakers with a 8-inch mounted trunk subwoofer with a 250watt amplifire. (50watt per channell).

check out www.protegetech.com go to protegesearch then type mazda mp3. as you will be taken to 1-18found scroll the bar down and then youll see mazdaspeedprotege.htm 2003 click that and shows you everything.
This babe is going to rock cant wait till this babe comes out i'll be the first to have this sporty looking baby. Honda and Acura can say Mazda has made the new Mazdaspeed protege zoom-zoom and boom-boom.:) :eek: :D :) :eek: :D

P5PCU

03-26-2002, 06:46 PM

I think its pretty kewl and all but to be totally honest i am quite upset with this new revelation and i think mazda is wasting TOO much money bringing this out. I think they can do much better by putting the FS-ZE engine in the North American protege's and then we can start comparing to the GS-R's and the GT-S's and the SE-R's because they are N/A. If you put the same small turbo in one of those we cant compete and again, we are shit out of luck against them. I am happy to see a turbo being made for the car but i want more N/A power out of the dealership and THEn go turbo. just my .02 cents

NC_MP3

03-26-2002, 07:58 PM

Yeah, a 30 HP gain off boosting it sucks. Either they are running boost way low cause they are too lazy to beef up the internals, or the kit really blows.

I hope they make it though cause then we will have a good turbo manifold hehe.

hakushi no sakura

03-26-2002, 08:25 PM

170hp isn't bad. Mazda probably set it at a really low boost setting like the older 1.8T VWs. Those were only 150hp! Just get it chipped or something and you'd probably get a huge power gain. I used to drive VWs, ppl on messageboards got their car up to 200hp+ just by raising the boost and nothing else.

I don't see the big deal about having a car being N/A just to compare to the likes of Type Rs and Sentra SE-R .. screw them :) a turbo Protege would still be in the same class as them, and whoop them to boot :D HOwever, I'd watch out for that limited edition VW GTi called the GTi 337 Edition w/18" rims, lowered suspension, full bodykit and 3" chrome exhaust ... 1500 production run, similar to the mp3. That thing sounds pretty hype. I wonder if they'd be 18" BBS rims, oh, that'd be sooo hype! *drool*

spoolinmp3

03-26-2002, 08:31 PM

Dude this is monumental....who cares if we cant compare to rsx and gts's. Hell now we can compare to better cars like the wrx:D .
If a car comes turbo from the factory it will be a lot easier to modify then an n/a car. Just by upgrading an exhaust and airfilter you will realize gains of another 20-25hp. Now do that same setup on an n/a car and you will get like what 5-7hp. Plus the fuel system will be nice and beefy so we dont have to go stand alone and just get an upgraded chip like the wrx and audi guys. Just getting an upgraded chip should get us another 30hp bringing up another 60 hp with the above mods. That does not even include upgrading the intercooler or turbo. So dont be too quick to judge.....turbo is a very very very GOOOOD thing;)

Razhael

03-26-2002, 08:34 PM

sometimes i wish there was another brand i liked other than mazda... i like nissan a lot but dislike the ser spec v styling, but at least they dont pull this kind of JOKES on customers... if the rx-8 gets a good price and no more stupid Special Edition stuff i will get one of those, and hopefully some day nissan will release a nice 4 or 5 seater sports car.

MAZDAMP3MAN

03-26-2002, 09:29 PM

OH MY GOD!!! I posted about it along time ago but man no pics until now. WOW and if SPARCO is designing the interior it will be P-I-M-P PIMP!!!!!

Antoine

03-26-2002, 11:37 PM

turbo is a very very very GOOOOD thing

Yes it is...watch out VW!...This is awesome...they upgraded this "new MP3" with very solid parts...nice package...turbo (The turbocharger incorporates the latest in aerodynamic and ball-bearing technology), LSD, plus a ton of stuff...Don't worry MP3 peeps...you guys are still OG...but Mazda just sent reinforcements!

Anyone have Price info?....Anyone going to get one?

kep0ne

03-26-2002, 11:55 PM

wow that makes me depressed. good thing is...we can get those parts now...WITH A WARRANTY! if this mazdaspeed protege really comes through...im definitely gonna upgrade my car with oem parts.

BigBlue

03-27-2002, 12:52 AM

Looks and sounds to be damn sweet...not much more power than our cars, but a lot more potential than ours for more power for certain. I'm interested at the cost of one of these things....do you all think it will clock in near the same price??

kep0ne

03-27-2002, 12:57 AM

no way...LSD, turbo, sparco! and whatnot...look to see at least 4grand tagged on. maybe more.

Mac Daddy

03-27-2002, 01:02 AM

AAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhdddddjmlytal;;dmm,./////.

Now how am I going to get that new MSPro. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: I love it. :( I want one. What about the Pro 5 turbo AWD?

OceanPark

03-27-2002, 01:24 AM

Damn, I am jealous!!!!

What about the price??? and idea??? $$$$$$$$$$$$

kep0ne

03-27-2002, 03:00 AM

im definitely miffed about this car now. i cant wait till im done with school and the money starts rolling in. :( :mad: :( :mad: :( :mad:

tritonheat1

03-27-2002, 04:16 AM

Man this is so great and i guess that i will be waiting for the Mazdaspeed protege to hit the compact market soon in the 4th quarter of 2002, so i guess that will be in September to December.????Price range i don't have a clue but i will be guessing around $20,000 at least. Ohh and another good thing is i called corksport couple of days ago and the guy name glenn said that there building a custom Turbo for the MP3 soon but it doesn't come with an intercooler. He said the boost will be around 10-12psi and the kit costs around $1400-1800."" 2003 Mazda Mazdaspeed protege, hurry up and be ready to be babied like a 4yr old month baby, cause i will be washing you 4times a week and make you shine like a sun in the sky."":) :D :eek: :) :D :eek:

APEXistud

03-27-2002, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by spoolinmp3
Dude this is monumental....who cares if we cant compare to rsx and gts's. Hell now we can compare to better cars like the wrx:D .
If a car comes turbo from the factory it will be a lot easier to modify then an n/a car. Just by upgrading an exhaust and airfilter you will realize gains of another 20-25hp. Now do that same setup on an n/a car and you will get like what 5-7hp. Plus the fuel system will be nice and beefy so we dont have to go stand alone and just get an upgraded chip like the wrx and audi guys. Just getting an upgraded chip should get us another 30hp bringing up another 60 hp with the above mods. That does not even include upgrading the intercooler or turbo. So dont be too quick to judge.....turbo is a very very very GOOOOD thing;)

I definately agree with spoolin. The gains from a factory turbo'd vehicle are usually much greater than NA. Like some WRX's gaining as much as 12whp just from using a conical filter. Or gaining a 9-15lb ft of torque by using a better designed down pipe. I'll definately be switching vehicles if I ever get money again.:( This MP3 has cleaned me out

neccrixx

03-27-2002, 10:39 AM

Well it says:
"Delivering an estimated 170 horsepower solidly to the ground..."

I wonder if they mean HP at the wheels? Probably not, but it is fun to dream isn't it...

:D

chdesign

03-27-2002, 12:03 PM

All i want it to come out for is so i can grap teh ECU out of it and the injectors and bam I've got teh same damn car just in the body style that I like :D

deepcover6

03-27-2002, 06:06 PM

This is so uncool I don't beleive this, how can they do this to us........release a better car in such a short while when we are stuck with our N/A road huggers.:mad: I don't quite like the orange color but the Black:p heh, heh.......that would be cool. Now the question is what internal changes if any are there to the cars engine to put up with the turbo. 170whp that means......what 190hp or 200 :confused:, But no where near what spoolin got going....but then again the warranty....ahhh...oh well I guess only time will tell what to expect from this new beast.

dolphin

03-27-2002, 08:31 PM

I prefer to look at it as Mazda is responding to our cry for more power. It sure would have been nice if they had been a year faster.

MP3-Owner

03-27-2002, 09:49 PM

I love the turbo coming out, but what about the internals? Have they gone with forged parts or are they using the same stuff that is in our cars now? Because you don't want to go and put 60 more HP on a motor that is not built for it.

spoolinmp3

03-28-2002, 02:27 AM

Most likley they will use lower compression pistons and some type of fortified rods. So we can use them on cars.

big_ben

03-28-2002, 09:26 AM

It's sad to say it, but this car will not do very well. Think about it for a second. Our base price was $18,550, with all the chasis and suspension upgrades, and the rims, and so on. This car will be basically the same as ours, but with turbo, LSD, larger diameter axles. The turbo should be around $2500 extra, LSD is at least $1500, I'm not sure about the axles but I'm guessing at about $800 extra. That brings the price of this new speed 3 to AT LEAST $23,350. I WOULD SAY THAT WILL BE THE MINIMUM THEY COULD CHARGE FOR THIS CAR! And remember, it supposedly only has 170whp. Why would anyone buy this car. For 1 to 2 grand more you could get a WRX with AWD, larger displacement engine, and not to mention a huge aftermarket. It is a no brainer if you ask me.

ChrisR

03-28-2002, 09:59 AM

I think this car will kick ass if the price is right. The MP3 is already the best handling car in it's class and that will only improve, especially with the limited slip diff. Also no car for this price offers this kind of sound system.

The 170hp is on the low side, but as mentioned before this is just a starting point because of the turbo. Some of the 150HP VW 1.8's are pretty damn quick, I see no reason why this car should be any different. Only difference is the VW's handle like pigs, this car will stick. Also, the Protege line is known for its reliability as we all know.

Remember they are not making too many of these, shouldn't be difficult to sell all of them. I bet they price it at about $21,500 max, maybe lower. Probably way wrong on that but what the hell.

Syzygy

03-28-2002, 03:15 PM

I believe what BIGBLUE mentioned on another thread hit the nail on the head. I was ecstatic to see that another year (at least) of this 2.0 liter engine (and body style) will hit the streets. The more of them on the road, the better for us. We have such a small footprint in the aftermarket, we need this.

I envision beefed-up and TESTED parts falling into this (ugly) orange beast. Join me in thanking Mazda for scooting the yellow and blue out of production, ramping up interest, providing a future upgrade path and keeping the Zoom-Zoom alive.

BTW, if you MP3 guys are still hanging on to your Kenwood's, upgrade it to the Music Keg. Hot-swapping 10GB carts of MP3's. Sweet.

Check it out here: http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/redirectFeature.jsp?goToUrl=product.jsp%3FproductI d%3D2373

BigBlue

03-28-2002, 03:25 PM

Thanks for the compliment Syzygy. I guess I'm thinking into the future here when we will certainly get Mazdaspeed owners coming here and I don't want to see a bunch of people dissin' the new owners out of jealously or whatever. I think Mazda is a great company and whether you have an MP3, a P5 or a Mazdaspeed, you will have spent your money well. I kinda hope that Mazda doesn't limit the production of this new model though because the more of them out there will mean the more aftermarket parts made for all of our cars.

Thanks for the link on the Music Keg....something to keep in mind although I don't know if I need to go 7500 miles without hearing the same song twice! :D

APEXistud

03-28-2002, 03:47 PM

I've still yet to see anything about a Turbo'd Protege on the Mazda website, so me being a pesamist (spelling), I won't get my hopes up till Mazda Officially releases something. ProtegeTech isn't exactly an official Mazda site either.:) I don't mean to rain on anyones parade, but think I'm being realistic in saying "don't get too excited until there is an official statement by Mazda of America":)

dustobub

03-28-2002, 03:54 PM

I would say this is pretty definitive
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-28-2002/0001695827&EDATE=
This was posted a little earlier on the the protegeclub board.

Dustin

ZoomZoomH

03-28-2002, 03:57 PM

these are from PR new wire service:

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=105&STORY=/www/story/03-28-2002/0001695827

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=105&STORY=/www/story/03-28-2002/0001695777

:D

chdesign

03-29-2002, 10:50 AM

Just for your info its the STOCK engine same 9:1 compression and everything jsut with a Mazdaspeed turbo kit added on which the kit isn'[t made by Mazdaspeed its made by Callaway for Mazdaspeed and installed Pre-Port onto the car before ship. I'm thinking with the 170HP rating its only running 5 PSI and not designed to run much more. I do have some info on how to make a stroker kit for our engines but I cannot devuldge that info right now....all I can say is look at the specs for a 7MGTE toyota supra turbo engine. You will be surprised :D

ZoomZoomH

03-29-2002, 11:14 AM

are you saying you already know how to up the boost on the Mazdaspeed :eek:

BigBlue

03-30-2002, 10:12 AM

Hehe actually I think he's saying he knows how to up the boost on his own custom turbo...which I'm more interested in than the Mazdaspeed as I think it has more power potential does it not?

chdesign

03-31-2002, 05:11 PM

It has the same power potential as our cars it uses the same engine...I hate to break it to you but there are no forged internals in this Mazdaspeed "beast" it is just our engine with a turbo kit and LSD. My car has more power than what the Mazdaspeed does and its not intercooled yet. What I was saying about the 7MGTE engine is that the bore is teh same as our engine. Then take teh rods from a 99-00 escort SOHC (I know soudns weird but they are extremely strong rods)machine them a bit and machine the crank a bit and you have a 2.2L 20 PSI beast of an engine. I have exact specs on what to machine them too but thats my secret. :D

Antoine

03-31-2002, 05:47 PM

Does the vw 1.8t use forged pistons...how about the turbo neon/pt cruiser...or the supercharged mini? What reliability measures have they taken for the mazdaspeed in terms of forced induction(lowered compression)?. Aren't they providing the same warranty as all the other protege models? Are the specs we have now the final specs...are the hp and tq figures official? Wait until Mazda actually has the Mazdaspeed in the line up on the website...now it's just a promo.

chdesign

03-31-2002, 10:05 PM

Like i have said before it is a stock F block engine with a turbo kti on it. No lower compression or anything. Mazda offered the Miata with a turbo kit as a factory warrenties option at one point and that is all this is. Yes it is under factory warrenty but who know what will void it. If people screw with the boost and blow the engine i'm sure it will void the warrenty. There will probably be a clause in the warrenty of that it is only valid at stock boost levels. But I've said it once I will say it again...Its just our stock engine with a turbo kit.

Antoine

03-31-2002, 10:47 PM

Reminds me of Toyota and TRD with the supercharger kits...well in anycase I'm looking forward to checking it out and seeing what the mags report...check the thread about the mazdaspeed pro outrunning a wrx...:cool:

Do you think it would be possible to raise hp to 200 while keeping stock boost levels (intake, exhaust, intercooler)? I wonder how the dealers will respond to turbo protege's coming in for service.

chdesign

03-31-2002, 10:51 PM

200 crank hp would be easy spoolin has well over that now

tritonheat1

04-01-2002, 04:53 PM

Chdesign the Mp3 and the Mazdaspeed protege are technically not the same." An 2.0l engine with a slapped on turbo and intercooler." No my friend it's a (garrett T-25 turbocharged intercooled Mazdaspeed protege with (LSD) and a new drivetrain and new clutch disc with 4 wheel disc brakes. Now your saying that the compression ratio is the same as well as the borexstroke. The lower the compression ratio it is the better it is. For instance i know this isn't a honda but the old hatchback civic Si's compression ratio's were at 8:7:1. Our MP3 and Mazdaspeed protege are at 9:1:1, i think the smaller the engine the bigger the compression ratio should be, and the bigger the engine the smaller the compression ratio should be.

Thxbrett

04-03-2002, 12:16 PM

Actually you want an internally strong motor with forged pistons and a compression ratio under 9:1 to allow higher levels of boost and safer running of the motor with that additional power. My BPT has a 8.2:1 compression ratio with upgraded guts. The WRX has a 8.0:1, EVO has 8.8:1, and my old 1.6 GT motor had a 7.8:1 comp ratio. The MP3's 9:1 ratio isn't too bad really, it just needs some better internals to allow it to run higher boost levels. Does anyone know the size of the factory fuel injectors on the 2.0 liter motor? I think that is one of the reasons that the boost is so low as well as the reliability factor.
Brett.

rosendo192000

04-07-2002, 12:11 AM

"tritonheat1" so what ur saying is that the mp3/protege es will not share the same "f"series engine:confused:

f&^k i was hoping that that mazdaspeed protege was going to share the same engine ,but only difference would be the turbo." becaues if it did i would just wait till the car came out and buy the manifold off the the "mazdaspeed protege" and put it on my protege.;)

chdesign

04-07-2002, 01:22 AM

yes I understand that it is more than a F blcok with a turbo kit. I know the LSD and clutch and all the other goodies but what I am looking at is all the guys who are going to buy this car and think oh its a factory turbo it can handle more boost turn it up and then BOOM its gone because it is the same 2.0L F block that is in all proteges now. I was just simply stating that I am dissapointed as I was hoping for some beefier internals or lowered compression or something. The F block is only reliable up to about 8-10 psi on stock internals and I'm sure the MS is probably set at 5-6 so i'm sure people are going to try to up the boost and we are going to see a few blown MS Protege's

tritonheat1

04-08-2002, 01:38 AM

I understand that. But if you're gonna want just power and not Mazda protege then go to a junkyard and get the old Eclipse turbo motor or something or Hyundai Turbo motor and slap in on your protege's and don't have to worry about spending $22K, if our protege's are just the same with the Mazdaspeed protege with a slap on turbo lsd and a new clutch. then i guess there's no use of getting the Mazdaspeed protege then Huh!!!! i know i didn't include the 7-speaker kenwood system and new racing hart's on bridgestone potenza's, and Sparco interior. But i'm sure it would be less than that huh.lol

Antoine

04-08-2002, 03:57 AM

Don't know about you but when I buy a certain brand I want it powered by the same brand...not a frankestein mickey mouse disaster.

Mazda would not send out 2000 mazdaspeed's by just "slapping" on the turbo, lsd, new clutch, new driveshaft, revised suspension, etc...this car is moded by a major manufacturer and established tuners (Racing Beat and Callaway). Oh and its all under warranty :D

Everyone has a right to there own opinion...I realize that this "new MP3" may not be exactly what everyone wanted and my be too expensive for some, but I believe it will be a great car like the OG MP3...I look forward to seeing it on the streets and posting with its owners on this site. :cool:

vegasmp3

04-10-2002, 04:09 PM

My opinion, the new mazdaspeed is tight........I think I want to sale my mp3 and buy the new one.........I agree the turbo may be a little weak, but going to upgrade it wont hurt the car like if we were to put a turbo in the mp3.........That engine is designed to handle a turbo where the mp3 engine isn't........eventhough they are the same displacement and litter size........The quality of the engine is a lot stronger.........My good friend tells me to keep my mp3 and add a turbo..........The thing is I dont want to mess with the car.

vegasmp3

04-10-2002, 04:18 PM

This car is going to be sick.......all the goodies on the inside and out.......When has honda, acura, subaru, toyota and other companies partner up with aftermarket companies......Mazda is smart and may take over this import game........They have nardi torino, sparco, kenwood, racinghart, tokico, garret and racingbeat all put their two cents in......All of these companies in their own right are fabulous companies........This is freaking a great idea........Putting in sparco seats that all of us want to buy after we purchase our cars.....Tight ass steering wheel, one of the best rim companies out their, turbo charged, kenwood system........By far this car blows away any type R, WRX, Si all they have is the engine we got the whole package.........

kcagle

04-10-2002, 04:32 PM

Not to lessen the greatness of Mazda's new offering b/c it is going to be the best bang for buck offernig when its released...BUT have you sat in an Si?

It has seats that some cars twice its price will never have. The new Si's seats are extremely high quality. Though not for wide overweight people who wouldn't fit between the massive side bolsters.

I was very unimpressed by its performance as was Grassroots in their recent review of that segment, but build quality in the interior was great with lots of storage pockets and such. I have to say it may look funny, but I have never picked up a car's shift mechanism as quickly as I did in the new Si. It is a very natural place to have it coming out of the dash like that.

Performancewise though this is car is by far worst in segment now. It is heavy, slowest in class, and funny looking. I guess Honda did that b/c they know it is only going to be modified anyway.