DGM carbon fiber front lip on 03.5 MSP?

[Leonardo]

will the dgm CF front lip fit on my 03 1/2 MSP?? anybody know where i can get a good deal on one if it will? thanks.

[Captain KRM P5]

it does fit, you can get it at protege5online.com

[MikeBlueP5]

i dont know if it will fit the 03.5 they have a lip already installed from the factory. The DG lip has to go under the foglights and in front of the lower grille. That ones a tough call.

[Leonardo]

so far one "yes" and one "i'm not so sure"....anyone else??

[Captain KRM P5]

by "lip" on the 03.5 do you mean that black windsplitter??? just remove the windsplitter. i actually did not read that you had an 03.5, sorry my fault. I've seen both 03 and 03.5 bumpers though and think it will still fit.

[MikeBlueP5]

nope i know what you mean by the windsplitter, the 03.5s actually have a lip that goes on the bottom of the bumper where the dg would go. i think leo posted some pretty good pics demonstrating this. Ill post the link.

Edit: heres the link- http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28330

[markmurray77]

I don't think it will fit with the lip but you can remove th lip and sell it to me and put fog lights in there.

[low_psi]

you don't need to remove the lip to add the dgm. you'll just need to trim some of the dgm to contour around the 3.5's add-on.

you MAY need to trim the flares on the bottom of the 3.5's just a bit also.

[markmurray77]

I really don't think it will fit with te 03.5 lip, it won't be able to slip into the holes on the top nor fit flush against the bottom. Of course you can make anything fit but by doing so with this you will be chopping off more than you are keeping and having a poor fitment in the process. You may want to look at the onderground one, that might fit under th stock 03.5 lip.

[505zoom]

Someone posted a pic awhile back, of the DGM lip on a titanium 3.5. It looked like blue tinted CF of some sort. I'll try to find it.

[slug420]

id like to see that

[Matthew]

Sorry to be a pain in the ass mod, but we are trying to clean up all the forums to make it easier to search for items, and less cluttered. In the future, please post in the appropriate forum...example - Intakes, dispite being for the Mazdaspeed, belong in the performance section. Buying a carbon fiber hood for your Mazdaspeed belongs in the Appearance section. If you raced someone in your Mazdaspeed it still belongs in the Racing/Motorsports section. If you have any questions, comments, or complaints, feel free to PM me at any time.

Thanks again for your patience as we clear up the forums to make it better for you!

move it on over, move it on over, move on little dog, the big mods, moving in!

off to the app. section!

[slug420]

i seriously disagree.

It makes it much easier to find info on a SRI for a MSP if i search the mazdaspeed section for SRI than the performance section for SRI and then browse through those results for something relating to a mazdaspeed, and who knows if the person referred to it as a MSP SRI or a mazdaspeed SRI or a speed SRI or a MPS SRI or posted it in the mazdaspeed forum and just referred to it as an SRI.

and if I want info on a BOV for my msp im concerned with how the bov will affect my MSP turbo setup not how it will affect a spool turbo setup, so I want to search the mazdaspeed forum for BOV not the FI section.

And I am only concerned with the MSP so I browse other areas from time to time but only make sure to see all threads in the mazdaspeed forum. So if someone is posting about a BOV they got to work on their MSP without any stalling, they would have to post it in the FI section, and I would never see it, cuz i dont check the FI section, cuz i dont care about FI.




everyone needs to stop movin shit.















imo.

[Matthew]

well sorry but people will complain no matter what one way or the other, and this has been discussed too many times...tell people to start putting MSP SRI in their title then...and its obviously not TOO easy to find info in the MSP section the way it was before i moved threads because in 10 pages of threads ive moved i think 8 threads or more relating to the intake...

[slug420]

that doesnt mean its hard to search, it means people, such as myself, are too lazy to search sometimes so they post new threads on a topic they know has already been covered


so now when I want to know about a SRI, instead of looking through all the SRI threads in the perf section, I will wind up just posting a new redundant thread in the mazdaspeed section.....which you will then move to the perf section

sooooooopa

why cant we just leave everything where it is, and move something out of the mazdaspeed section if it has nothing to do with a mazdaspeed, and move things out of the wheels section if they have nothing to do with wheels? It should be the poster's discretion where to post a topic depending on what kind of an answer they are looking for. You guys are just making more work for yourselves

[Matthew]

because we will eventually clean up the performance section and merge all those threads...trust me!

are too lazy to search sometimes
exactly the problem half the time.

[slug420]

(protest)

[Matthew]

(lol) calm down bud...trust me it will be good for everyone here shortly

[slug420]

no, it will not be good for me, because I want to be able to search the mazdaspeed forum for all mazdaspeed related issues, because im weird, and I think that makes sense

[Matthew]

simply search with the drop down menu in performance

[slug420]

what if im looking for info on what wheels clear the MSP calipers?

or info on matching the spicy orange color?

or info about hesitation?

or info about my msp kenwood system being replaced under warranty?

or info about my OEM alarm malfunctioning

It will now be sooooo much easier to search the wheels section, the appearance section, the performance section, the electronics section and the electronics section again instead of JUST SEARCHING THE MAZDASPEED SECTION

wtf would a p5 owner care about what rims will fit over the calipers on a MSP? why would a ES owner care? they wouldnt, so why would i post such a question in a forum for owners of all these cars?

this is ridiculous

you are spending more time and effort to change board so that everyone else will have to spend more time and effort to use the board


by leaving this crap in its respective part of the board you make searches easier because in the mazdaspeed section, EVERY SEARCH has an implied "mazdaspeed, msp, mps, speed" in it, same for the mp3 section etc.......

if I am on a mac, and want to download a program, and I go to search download.com for a program, i search for the program I want in the MAC section, becaue I dont care if the program I want exists on any other platform, and quite frankly I dont want to sort through 39208 results 39000 of which are NOT for a Mac. Its the same thing here.

When I go to tirerack, I enter the kind of car I have and I see all the wheels that relate to it. I dont search for all 5 spoke wheels and than rummage through the broad range of results for wheels that might fit my car.

same shit

[yashooa]

Originally posted by slug420
no, it will not be good for me, because I want to be able to search the mazdaspeed forum for all mazdaspeed related issues, because im weird, and I think that makes sense
Always remember you are bad. You bought an MSP.
Therefore you must be chastised.
Sense has nothing to do with it. This crap is all about ego.

[DiscreetSpeed]

omg please make this micromanage shit STOP!!

[II-Savy]

Slug they don't get it. We all are going to miss so many posts because they are being taken out of the MSP section.

[Matthew]

thats because you people are too fucking lazy to look elsewhere...stop jacking threads and go cry in the place for you little msp owners to whine in

[Dexter]

why the fuck isnt this is the MSP section. IT SPECIFICALLY DEALS WITH THE MAZDASPEED PROTEGE.

every time i calm down, i see another thread with that bullshit "Sorry to be a pain in the ass mod..." Cut and paste statement by RazorP5. This thread belongs in the god damn mazda fucking speed section. you obviously have some kind of vendetta against MSP owners, as proven by comments like "go cry in the place for you little msp owners to whine in" i dont appreciate you coming in the forum i am a moderator in and jacking a WHOLE BUNCH OF WORTHWHILE threads with good information (like this one) with that bullshit "I'm gonna clean up a forum I have no business in" You don't even have a fuckin mazdaspeed and you hate them all so what gives. why are you even a mod in ths MSP section?

[Matthew]

because you cant do your job, and someone has to

[DiscreetSpeed]

Originally posted by RazorP5
because you cant do your job, and someone has to (lol) dude you are funny Gazingp5 (butt) (loser) (smash) (upyours)

[Dr.Sound]

this is good
every fuckin thread we start will end up like this

[yashooa]

Originally posted by RazorP5
thats because you people are too fucking lazy to look elsewhere...stop jacking threads and go cry in the place for you little msp owners to whine in

THIS IS THE PALCE WE WHINE IN!

Hence the section name "MSP" once again blinded by your ego.

[yashooa]

Good luck with your lip Mutant Turtle man.
Hmmm are those "round eyed" tail lights a slight to us semi whites guys?

LOL :D

[YuYuRena]

I don't know about that, I thought dex did a fine job, I was able to find what I need on MSP zoom zoom fast.

[Dr.Sound]

i vote yash for mod!

[DiscreetSpeed]

im glad gazorp5 is gone. lets just go back to normal, the way everyone knows it.

[Fëakhelek]

Originally posted by RazorP5
because you cant do your job, and someone has to

He's just mad cause he has to drive a station wagon with MSP ground effects.

:rolleyes:

[yashooa]

Originally posted by Dr.Sound
i vote yash for mod!

Ah shucks...Garsh...
Today the MSP forum tomorrow The White House!(headbang)

[yashooa]

Originally posted by DiscreetSpeed
im glad gazorp5 is gone. lets just go back to normal, the way everyone knows it.

Yes normal is good. Well as normal as the MSP forum was and is...that is. :p

[SonicRacer]

AS for the DG lip on the 3.5? I still wanna see that! :D

[Newf]

First off I can't see the lip fitting. The bumps on the bottom of the 2003.5 are going to make it impossible. of course you can always revert back to the 2003 bumper by taking the 2003.5 lip off, putting fogs in and then getting the cf lip

Now, as for the other nonsense.

Dex did a fine job.
Razorp5. You do make some good points, but I have constantly seen you bash MSP owners just because they are msp owners. Whether or not some deserve it or not, I don't think some of the comments you make are fit coming from a mod at times. Set by examply yes? Yes, the mazdaspeed section has been a mess at times, but this organizing absolutely everything is getting a little too much. If your a mod for another section....stick to that one please. We don't need two mods fighting here and moving stuff back and forth.

Which brings me to my next question?

AM I missing something here? How do people get chosen as mods in the 1st place? I'm not picking on anyone one person here, but I am wondering this because I have seen some very strange choices in who becomes a mod in the 3 years I've been here.

[Matthew]

i asked enry to see if i could help clean up the msp sections clutter...i wasnt even sposed to talk to anyone during the process, its just that everyone flamed me for moving topics...if you want to discuss it further im me.

[505zoom]

Originally posted by SonicRacer
AS for the DG lip on the 3.5? I still wanna see that! :D

OOPS. After a second look, I realize that it was a P5 that I saw that blue lip on. Here's the pic though, took 3 days to find. :D

I remember someone saying that the 3.5's lip was just added on to the 03 bumper cover. I don't know if this is true, as I have never seen another msp, 03 or 3.5. If this is the case though, couldn't you take off the factory lip and be able to use it? Just a thought.

http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/505zoom/carbon%20fiber%20lip.jpg

Whoever owns that P5, nice job!(thumb)

[choke on words]

oooh cool!

[SonicRacer]

The 3.5 MSP has a lip though. Now seeing that lip installed like that there is no way it would fit a 3.5 MSP.

[505zoom]

Is the front lip on the 3.5 an entirely different bumper cover or is it just a added lip to the 03?

[Black Majik MSP]

Sorry to revive an old thread, but I want to know if anyone has pics of an 03.5 MSP with the lip off & if anyone has put a different lip on.

I am considering doing this...if anyone wants to trade lips, let me know.

[Black Majik MSP]

Bump!

[Chojin]

Black Majik MSP -

Here's my car with the DGM C/F Front Air Dam:

http://www.mazdaformance.com/MSP/6.jpg

You must remove the stock 03.5 front air dam in order to use the DG one.

-Shawn

[Black Majik MSP]

Thanks for the pic, that looks awesome! Does taking off the 03.5 lip mean that the side grille inserts won't fit anymore?

[mattybo]

Black Majik MSP -

Here's my car with the DGM C/F Front Air Dam:

http://www.mazdaformance.com/MSP/6.jpg

You must remove the stock 03.5 front air dam in order to use the DG one.

-Shawn


Looks exactly like what im trying to do. I already sold my lip and installed the P5 fogs...how was the fitment of the lip? I heard you have to modify the bumper a little to get it to fit....? Also how did the paint match up on the fiberglass? I have a fiberglass rear bumper and the guy who painted it does awesome work but it looks lighter than the rest of my car, even though he used the mazda paint. Do you think a few coats of black primer would help out? Only reason i say this is because most urethane bumpers are black before they are painted and i would imagine painting over black primer would give a darker end result....

[Chojin]

Black Majic MSP -

The side grille inserts are part of the stock front air dam and cannot be used with the DG piece.

mattybo -

The DG piece fits very tight around the bumper. I didn't have to modify the bumper at all. The paint matches the car perfectly (this is entirely dependent on the shop doing the prep work and painting).

-Shawn

[mattybo]

Black Majic MSP -

The side grille inserts are part of the stock front air dam and cannot be used with the DG piece.

mattybo -

The DG piece fits very tight around the bumper. I didn't have to modify the bumper at all. The paint matches the car perfectly (this is entirely dependent on the shop doing the prep work and painting).

-Shawn


Any chance you could find out what they did to match the paint? I know the guy used the stock MSP sunlight silver metallic paint. Fiberglass usually comes with white primer on it, i think DG's come with black...that might be why it matches perfectly. To the naked eye my bumper is not noticeably different. However if you sit there and stare at it, eventually you will notice it is a few shades lighter....

[slug420]

mine matches nicely :)

http://www.msprotege.com/members/slug420/slug420-6-big.jpg

[mattybo]

rub it in why dont ya! As i said the DG parts come primed black, which i think might be the reason mine doesnt match 100% here are some pics, go see for yourself...

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?t=60270&page=2&pp=15

[slug420]

any rear shots? the back of the car looks too high when compared to how low the DGM lip makes the front so I had been looking at the BC bumper

and do you have any zoomed in shots of it? looks from those pics like it could just be the way the light is hitting it?

[slug420]

nm....i actually LOOKED at the thread and saw it :) hehe



my body shop said he followed the mazda code and it was way off, so he called somewhere and asked if there were any variations. they gave him a few. all of them were way off so he woudn up just blending it on his own he said

someone else said that their paint shop got a 3 stage paint kit from mazda from somewhere and that matched perfect after applied.

i dunno.......

http://www.customautodesign.com <---- thats who did mine :D

[mattybo]

nm....i actually LOOKED at the thread and saw it :) hehe

yea i think the BC2 bumper with the DG lip will look real sweet. Im gonna go to my paint guy and have him paint it how he normally would and see if it comes out matching. If it does ill know the reason why is simply due to painting over black primer...

[on point]

so you cant just remove the 03.5 lip and replace it with the DG cf lip? and the stock air vents where the fogs go? you cant reuse those? they just pop out.... someone let me know

[mattybo]

so you cant just remove the 03.5 lip and replace it with the DG cf lip? and the stock air vents where the fogs go? you cant reuse those? they just pop out.... someone let me know

You can remove the the 3.5 lip and it will look just like a P5 (minus the fogs of course). Then drop on a DG and your good to go. Thats what im doing ;)
The air vents are part of the lip, so they have to go also....

[on point]

the vents that your talking about are teh black honey comb things on each side that replaces the foglight holes? hmMm i mounted my lisense plate with a bracket there.. so that lip comes up all teh way in teh back on each side? thats really strange if its true... so your going to put fogs in the holes or what?

[mattybo]

the vents that your talking about are teh black honey comb things on each side that replaces the foglight holes? hmMm i mounted my lisense plate with a bracket there.. so that lip comes up all teh way in teh back on each side? thats really strange if its true... so your going to put fogs in the holes or what?

Well i sold my lip for a pair of P5 fogs and $120. I already have the fogs installed, im just waiting to get my lip painted.

[03BlkMicaSPD]

A lip on a lip, that doesnt sound too good, like a camaro with a aluminum spoiler, the stock one doesnt come off.

[mattybo]

A lip on a lip, that doesnt sound too good, like a camaro with a aluminum spoiler, the stock one doesnt come off.

a lip on a lip? huh? you take off the stock lip before using the DG lip....there arent two lips.

[03BlkMicaSPD]

the rest of the post they were talkin about trying it on the 03.5 lip and not removing it. I know you remove it to install it correctly.

[mattybo]

the rest of the post they were talkin about trying it on the 03.5 lip and not removing it. I know you remove it to install it correctly.

uhh. ok?

[03BlkMicaSPD]

you don't need to remove the lip to add the dgm. you'll just need to trim some of the dgm to contour around the 3.5's add-on.

you MAY need to trim the flares on the bottom of the 3.5's just a bit also.Does this help you, dont want you to be confused...

[slug420]

let me see a pic of the dgm lip ANd the 03.5 lip on the same car at the same time......this ought to be cute

[mattybo]

Does this help you, dont want you to be confused...

No way man. It's not possible. Think about it. Both lips cover the stock bumper. Meaning the DG lip would have to be wide enough to cover the stock bumper PLUS cover the stock lip. It would never work and anyone who tries to do that is gonna realize how dumb of an idea it was in the first place.

[Brian MP5T]

Any Pictures of it on a white car?

[dirtysouth_msp]

Might as well put 2 wings on as well, lol.

[Brian MP5T]

Please "Sexplain"