MSP vs SRT-4? [Archive] - Mazdas247.com

Uleepera

08-24-2003, 12:55 AM

I'm debating buying either car. However no dodge dealers by me have the Srt-4 in stock. Are there any noticeable difference really between the two? Dodge is offering a 0% financing where mazda is only offering me $1500 cash back. Also since Mazda came out with the MP3 last year and now the MSP this year what are they coming out with next year? Parhaps I will pool my pennys and save for a down payment when the new version comes out with a financing package. Any info is greatly appreciated.

-Marc

pdhaudio83

08-24-2003, 12:58 AM

do a search, there are a ton of opinions. the srt4 is fast and doesnt handle as well as the msp, but the msp has some turbo upgrade options available. HiBoost had a turbo (p5) at 14psi with about 260whp and 300torque! :D

QwikSRT4

08-24-2003, 12:59 AM

Well I think the opinions will be slightly skewed towards the MSP being you asked this question on a Mazda board...

...but here's my $.02. Get what suits you best. I am not ashamed to admit the MSP is a better all-around package than the SRT-4. I just got my SRT-4 for pure speed and the fun it creates. You just have to drive both cars and see what suits you better. I like both cars for what they are...cheap and fun to drive!

SP33D

08-24-2003, 02:04 AM

Mazdaspeed has better exterior and interior, better suspension, better handling.

SRT-4 is faster for drag racing, but the MSP would rape a SRT-4 on the slalom.

SRT-4 interior is like a basic neons interior.. and the exterior isn't very appealing in my opinion :(

yashooa

08-24-2003, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by QwikSRT4
Well I think the opinions will be slightly skewed towards the MSP being you asked this question on a Mazda board...

...but here's my $.02. Get what suits you best. I am not ashamed to admit the MSP is a better all-around package than the SRT-4. I just got my SRT-4 for pure speed and the fun it creates. You just have to drive both cars and see what suits you better. I like both cars for what they are...cheap and fun to drive!

Holy cats! That's an even, fair, comment I just can't be insulting!
Yes I know shocking isn't it. :eek:

All we need now is Busty Boo in here with Jecky Joo Jo Ja and we could all sing Coom By ah...

Aricjm15

08-24-2003, 02:13 AM

this thread may very well turn into a "my cock is bigger" fight

how about this, If you are going to be doing alot of auto X-ing
get the MSP
if you are more a drag race kinda guy, get the SRT-4

I would say get what you like best, drive both cars, see which one you like more and go with it

both cars have a large supply of aftermarket parts

Uleepera

08-24-2003, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by Aricjm15
this thread may very well turn into a "my cock is bigger" fight

how about this, If you are going to be doing alot of auto X-ing
get the MSP
if you are more a drag race kinda guy, get the SRT-4

I would say get what you like best, drive both cars, see which one you like more and go with it

both cars have a large supply of aftermarket parts

Do you know if there are any turbo kits avalible for the srt-4? I know I could always upgrade the suspension

SpicyMchaggis

08-24-2003, 06:05 AM

there are upgrade kits in the works..I believe there is a Stage 1 upgrade right now, futher stages may or may not include re mapped ecu's and the like..the suspension can be upgraded im sure..but the car will NEVER handle like the MSP..so...its up to you..i would to the SRT-4 for myself..i like going fast..and beating up ricers...so make your decision wisely...

SpicyMchaggis

08-24-2003, 06:05 AM

quiksrt4 will be able to tell you exactly whats comign out

FuriousMojo

08-24-2003, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by SpicyMchaggis
i would to the SRT-4 for myself..i like going fast..and beating up ricers...so make your decision wisely...

Humiliating ricers is not a problem in an MSP. It can do so in a race or just by idling. The car is that damn cool!

QwikSRT4

08-24-2003, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by FuriousMojo
It can do so in a race or just by idling.

:D You guys can do that too???

For real though...there are more than a few aftermarket goodies out for the SRT-4 right now. The market is only just starting to roll out. It will be nuts around the end of spring/start of summer next year I can imagine. As for turbo upgrades, the only ones out are if you slap your own bigger turbo in there yourself. There's a guy running a T3/04 setup already and he's in the mid-12's with a few other mods. It's just sick. The Mopar Stage 1 is out right now and it is a remapped ECU with 4 bigger fuel injectors. People have been getting around a 10-20HP jump just with that. Not to mention boost controllers to cure that boost creep.

If you have any more questions, or just wanna snoop around and find out about the SRT (like I do on this board to find out about the MSP) try looking up http://www.srtforums.com. I'm sure that any information you need to know can be answered there. It's the best SRT forum out there. A lot of good guys.

servoeyes

08-24-2003, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by FuriousMojo
Humiliating ricers is not a problem in an MSP. It can do so in a race or just by idling. The car is that damn cool!

Not just ricers, folks...even American losers who think they're cool. Some doof in a malibu w/ tinited windows tried to pull on me yesterday. I had my girlfriend in the car, short shifted 1st and 2nd, and slowed at third becuase there was traffic in front of me. I had him every second of the way...it was a joke. The dick just gave me the old "type-r" flyby in a MALIBU!?!. Sheesh.

Anywho...back on topic. I autocross and the MSP is awesome for it. Either car as a daily driver might be annoying, though. Both are high revvers; not honda-esque, but they're meant to be performance oriented, so they're a little rough around the edges. If I was solely considerig dragging people, then I'd be going SRT all the way...or I'd just get a WRX. I like it's looks a lot better and it can handle itself in both arenas. Now if Subaru would just drop the price point to something more on par with what it should be...

Go test drive both cars. All had to do was test drive the MSP and I was in love...didn't even need to drive anything else.

QwikSRT4

08-24-2003, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by servoeyes
Go test drive both cars. All had to do was test drive the MSP and I was in love...didn't even need to drive anything else.

Damn I guess I'm just ate up. I had bought my car over the phone, did all the paperwork through AirEx, and waited two weeks for my car to ship from Florida before I even sat in it. To this day I have not been disappointed with it. ;)

BluMp3Turbo

08-24-2003, 11:57 AM

Well i have had a MP3 turbo and a now i own a SRT-4 and i loved the MP3 for its handling but didnt like that i could only go to 8 psi.... Now w/ my dodge stock was 15 psi now w/ a lil trick 18 psi and i lowered it and it feels as good as MSP or better and the car doesnt come w/ strut bar or bigger sway bars the car stock does 69.9 on slalom now it should be doing 71. but like evry one esle said test drive both and see what u prefer! Also rember SRT-4 was the car that won SCC of the year! and was in the top eight best cars of the year (i believe 4th)

BluMp3Turbo

08-24-2003, 12:00 PM

Uleepra send me a pm w/ ur email and ill send u pics of both cars and where to go to get a good price for the srt4 in jersey

buster

08-24-2003, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by yashooa
Holy cats! That's an even, fair, comment I just can't be insulting!
Yes I know shocking isn't it. :eek:

All we need now is Busty Boo in here with Jecky Joo Jo Ja and we could all sing Coom By ah...
I'm Baaaack!

You know my opinion, the SRT4 won't be raped in handling and could be easily made to handle as well as the MSP. That said, try them both out and see what you like driving around better. Buy the car you want and don't settle, that's what I just did for my new car.

walight01

08-24-2003, 12:04 PM

goto www.modernperformance.com they have plenty of srt-4 upgrades.

TX Speed Demon

08-24-2003, 12:05 PM

If you like the looks of both, and are willing to wait till next year then don't buy anything now.

Next year's SRT-4 comes with a limited slip differential. With that it should have no trouble keeping up with the MSP on both the strip and track.

SP33D

08-24-2003, 06:52 PM

MSP is better.. cuz even SRT-4 owners post in our forums.

:P

Matthew

08-24-2003, 07:00 PM

BluMp3Turbo

08-24-2003, 07:04 PM

MSP is better.. cuz even SRT-4 owners post in our forums. wow no 1 ever said that i just have a thing for mazda i have had a lot of mazda vehicles.

RX-KEVIN

08-24-2003, 07:22 PM

I post better times than 2 of the 3 srt's at cecil county drag way

II-Savy

08-24-2003, 07:40 PM

Dude -

Drive the cars, you will see the fit and finish differences. The SRT-4 is faster absolutely. STOCK the MSP is slower and handles better, thats fact.

seatbackfurther

08-24-2003, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by RazorP5
<img src="http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/mp5/mspsuck.gif">

They suck? Why do you post in the section? You drive a stripped down version of the car you idiot.
....>[comments edited by pdhaudio]...<

beans

08-24-2003, 09:44 PM

Damm dude, talking shit about someones wife is way outa line.

MazdaspeedZOOM

08-24-2003, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by seatbackfurther
They suck? Why do you post in the section? You drive a stripped down version of the car *** ******. Take your *** *** ********** off your sig, it's making me ****. Get *** to do some ***-*** and *** that ******* *** off.

I edited as best as posible because I didn't want it being repeated, but this was really un-called for. Why do you feel the need to bash on people, he voiced his opinion on a car, so you voice yours on his significant other. In that case can I call your mother a whore and you a father-less bastard? Just a thought?

pdhaudio83

08-24-2003, 10:00 PM

*Moderator enters room*
seatback, cool down a bit please.

seatbackfarther, your comments were way out of line. If you'd know Razor you'd know he uses that a lot, and he jokes around a lot.

FURTHER more, i dont want to hear anything like that again

SpicyMchaggis

08-24-2003, 10:03 PM

on the fo real tip..dont triffle with razor..artillery boys will track your ass down and call a fire mission...you gaffy bastard, he doesn't really hate the MSP..he is actually going to buy one..read a little deeper before you spout shit like that..

Ryno

08-24-2003, 10:18 PM

I think that when it comes down to it, you would spend more money making an SRT-4 handle like an MSP then you would making an MSP hang with an SRT-4 in a straight line. That is until you start modding the SRT-4 too, but Im just trying to make the point that you will spend a sh*t ton of money modifying your suspension to get it to handle like an MSP, and you need to get colder plugs, exhaust, an MBC, and better fuel management to make an MSP run like an SRT-4. Just my .02:)

pdhaudio83

08-24-2003, 10:22 PM

yep, i'd have to agree

perfworks

08-24-2003, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by seatbackfurther
They suck? Why do you post in the section? You drive a stripped down version of the car you idiot.
....>[comments edited by pdhaudio]...<

i second the motion you need to chill slick. that was really uncalled for. razor is a good guy.

seatbackfurther

08-24-2003, 10:28 PM

He is stating an opinion as I am stating an opinion. He can track me down or I can give him my address and he can come on over.

You can call my parents anything you want. You haven't seen them or know them. I SEE the picture therefore I can state an opinion.

Ryno: You could spend way less on making the SRT tear up the the MSP in any situation. It's costs around 300 bucks to bring the car in the mid 13's with the Stage I. Now tell me how much you spend on the MSP to bring it in that range. There's an SRT here in SA thats running the Autox and he stays pretty close to the MSP times. It wouldn't cost too much to make it handle better.

pdhaudio83

08-24-2003, 10:32 PM

are you an srt dude??
first off, the camber on the neon is ZERO. that'd be a good place to start.

an msp can hit 13s with race fuel and a few other minor mods.

not to mention the hiboost turbo kit i could get and have my STOCK mp3 run 260whp and 300lb torque on racing gas and a few other mods like hiboost did on his P5...

dude, whats your point? for all those perfectly straight roads out there :confused:

perfworks

08-24-2003, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by seatbackfurther
He is stating an opinion as I am stating an opinion. He can track me down or I can give him my address and he can come on over.

You can call my parents anything you want. You haven't seen them or know them. I SEE the picture therefore I can state an opinion.

Ryno: You could spend way less on making the SRT tear up the the MSP in any situation. It's costs around 300 bucks to bring the car in the mid 13's with the Stage I. Now tell me how much you spend on the MSP to bring it in that range. There's an SRT here in SA thats running the Autox and he stays pretty close to the MSP times. It wouldn't cost too much to make it handle better.
your missing the point.
your opinion is definatly allowed, but talking like that is childish and disheartening.
dont act like a fool like that and people might respect your opinion a little more
is it that hard for you to apoligize for the rude comments. or are you tooo much of a man to do so??

pdhaudio83

08-24-2003, 10:35 PM

here... http://mazdamp3.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27699

We went today to Dynamic Autosports in Irvine Ca. to do the dyno test at 14 PSI with the new bigger injectors.

The results are good. 259.6 WHP and 302.7 ft-lbs of Torque.

This was done at 14 psi with 100 octane 76 street legal fuel.

We had a fuel pressure gauge and it stayed at 50 lbs all the way to the redline. This means that the stock fuel pump will handle that much power.

I knew this engine would handle this much power with stock internals when it is well tuned.

After the dyno test we drove to Ramona, a small and nice town north of San Diego and we enjoyed the trip racing thru the canyons (at 14 psi) before we used all the high octane fuel.

now stop your childest cheap hits and find something else to do

tritonheat1

08-24-2003, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by seatbackfurther
He is stating an opinion as I am stating an opinion. He can track me down or I can give him my address and he can come on over.

You can call my parents anything you want. You haven't seen them or know them. I SEE the picture therefore I can state an opinion.

Ryno: You could spend way less on making the SRT tear up the the MSP in any situation. It's costs around 300 bucks to bring the car in the mid 13's with the Stage I. Now tell me how much you spend on the MSP to bring it in that range. There's an SRT here in SA thats running the Autox and he stays pretty close to the MSP times. It wouldn't cost too much to make it handle better.

Well For $40 buck's you can get the Joe P. MBC Boost Controller and up the Boost to run 10-12PSI and run anywhere from 14.3-14.6 in the 1/4mile."basically a Stock SRT-4 pulls a 14.1sec 1/4mile. Also all you gotta do to get in the SRT-4 territory or smoke a SRT-4 is add the Injen CAI, 2.5"Cat-back, DP, FPR kit and your right there with a SRT-4 or even better at (12-14PSI). Which supposely the SRT-4's stock boost is at like 14+PSi. 2.4 vs. 2.0Liter at same PSI, Sorry Bro i'm sure the MSP would smoke the SRT-4 in every category. BTW" I love the SRT-4 2, so no flaming huh(peep)

pdhaudio83

08-24-2003, 10:43 PM

well said (thumb)

seatbackfurther

08-24-2003, 10:45 PM

No i own a MSP. I haven't seen the numbers up here for any cars in the 12's or low 13's. I have seen 12's on the srt boards.

I guess you don't know the neons scca track record they certainly suck....

I visit every board to know what people are doing with cars. I just hear more shit talking here than anyone else. People that bought an MSP that is somehow a corvette because they can beat any car they go up against. Then the others with the "but it can outhandle "insert car here". Every car has go it's perks and I'm not going to say this car or that car sucks. I don't think the MSP sucks, it's a good little car. I like the SRT as well. I also like the SPEC-V. My head isn't too far up my ass to realize that other cars with small amount of mods can do the same as another car. I can put 3000 in my engine and beat this car or that, just the same as someone else can put 3000 in handling to beat this car or that car at track. It's all the same...

Ryno

08-25-2003, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by seatbackfurther
There's an SRT here in SA thats running the Autox and he stays pretty close to the MSP times.

:D Stays pretty close. Kinda sounds like he didnt beat him(no)

1sty

08-25-2003, 12:21 AM

This thread is boring, wheres smolten :D

seatbackfurther:
Yes Razor was joking around, he does that. Think logicly with me for a second here. How much can he really hate a car that is basicly his witha better suspension and a turbo. At its simpliest, its the same car. I was to late to see you first comment to him, and as I am his friend that is probably a good thing.

Now, wheres smolten

Matthew

08-25-2003, 12:23 AM

Let me tell you something you little punk ass piece of shit. Judging by your ridiculous fucking screen name, i would be pretty good to assume you are some fucking retard punk ass kid that prolly drives a fucking piece of shit with the seat halfway onto the back seat. You prolly cant get shit for a woman because when you pimp your piece of shit car with the "seatbackfurther" than the rest of your dumb ass friends, you prolly miss all the classy women and score with only the stupid whores that find that shit cool. When I voice my opinion on a car jokingly, and if you had more than 9 pathetic little posts mostly in this thread to my 1900, you would know how i joke around with that little picture i made. To personally insult the most important person in my life, is crossing the line...especially knowing you would never do something like that to my face without getting something re-arranging yours. but im not going to get into the physical side of this. the fact of the matter is, if you did a little research into my past posts, you would see that we could have been on the same side on the issues of MSPs. So ill tell you what, you take your lame little punk ass off our boards, where ADULTS not CHILDREN like yourself can post maturelly, and ill leave you alone. Otherwise every fucking post you make on this forum you will be flamed until your little shit for brains intellect is laughed off this board. normally i wouldnt dog someones personallity or personal problems, but when you cross the line and talk about someones wife, you are asking for problems when you are talking to adults...when your little bitch ass grows up one day and quits picking up the trailer trash women with your "seatbackfurther" retarded attitude, you might understand that. as for never seeing or hearing from your parents - thats probably why you have some serious problems socializing with other people - you need some guidence in your life, and you need to watch whos toes youre stepping on.

PS - my wife isnt fat...as a matter of fact, many people on the boards have complimented her looks in many posts...here is a picture from the night i came home...myabe you just cant tell from the sig...but thats ok, because no ones opinion REALLY matters to me, just the fact that you are an asshole matters.

Matthew

08-25-2003, 12:26 AM

PS - for all of you normal, socially acceptable fellow forum members, i apologize for my outburst...yet another thread destroyed by someones inability to communicate well with others. and although i may have just stooped to his level, im sorry, but nothing matters to me more in this life than my wife. she has been there throughout every problem and every deployment.

Ryno

08-25-2003, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by RazorP5
PS - my wife isnt fat...as a matter of fact, many people on the boards have complimented her looks in many posts (hitit)

1sty

08-25-2003, 12:42 AM

Poor bastard, he post a pic to prove his wife is hot now half the board is trying to look her up, brotha you just can't win. (rofl)

Sorry if I seem a bit relaxed razor, I never saw what he posted but the PWN3NING ablity of 1sty is always at your disposal. (thumb).

Saying shit about a mans women is grounds for a SERIOUS ass whipping! I suggest an apology seat!

pdhaudio83

08-25-2003, 12:48 AM

ya that'd be in line with expectations

Uleepera

08-25-2003, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by TX Speed Demon
If you like the looks of both, and are willing to wait till next year then don't buy anything now.

Next year's SRT-4 comes with a limited slip differential. With that it should have no trouble keeping up with the MSP on both the strip and track.

Do you have any idea when this new model is going to be coming out?

-Marc

Aricjm15

08-25-2003, 01:02 AM

wow I called it pretty good

it did go to all shit and hell in here

GOOD JOB GUYS(thumb)

Uleepera

08-25-2003, 01:05 AM

Just a couple thought, I didn't start this thread to create a war. I'm actualy torn between what car to get.. I do want to say thank you to the people who actualy posted information to help me however all the flaming is a little disturbing. Just for clarifacation this will be my first new car ever so I'm trying to be pretty concrete on what I want to buy. So anyone know if there are any decent turbo kits for the SRT? or if there are any good turbo upgrades for the MSP?

1sty

08-25-2003, 01:09 AM

The problem is this comparison has been done TO DEATH. a search will bring up a bajesus of info. All has already been said many times.

The only things I will add here is drive each car and see what you like. Also the SRT/4 can be upgraded with mopar parts to retain warrenty, the MSP can not.

QwikSRT4

08-25-2003, 02:29 AM

Razor...your wife is a hottie, bro...good catch. I can't wait until the day I come back from my deployment and see my wife again. I can see it in your faces how glad you were to be back together...I can't wait to feel the same...

AGR

08-25-2003, 09:52 AM

The MAZDASPEED is a wonderful daily driver! With 10psi, I love the balance. It's just a great car! (thumb) Not to mention, just how rare they are. Approaching 11,000 miles; I wake up every morning knowing I bought the perfect car for me.

All you can do is go out drive 'em, and decide for yourself. What works for you? Only you can answer that.

1sty

08-25-2003, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by AGR
The MAZDASPEED is a wonderful daily driver! With 10psi, I love the balance. It's just a great car! (thumb) Not to mention, just how rare they are. Approaching 11,000 miles; I wake up every morning knowing I bought the perfect car for me.

All you can do is go out drive 'em, and decide for yourself. What works for you? Only you can answer that. AGR that is one thing I mentioned to a couple this weekend.
They have been considering the MSP or SRT/4.

The major advantage the MSP has is that it is totaly balanced, and not in just the weight distrobution way. The car is setup to not drive beyond its own limits. The autocross ability is impressive and not hard to master. The dodge can EASILY be pushed passed its own handling ability, and not becuase it has a bad suspension but because of a very powerful engine. Anyone that has played Grand Turismo knows what I mean. Its often better to NOT improve the power of some cars becuase it makes them VERY hard to drive.

yashooa

08-25-2003, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by buster
I'm Baaaack!

You know my opinion, the SRT4 won't be raped in handling and could be easily made to handle as well as the MSP. That said, try them both out and see what you like driving around better. Buy the car you want and don't settle, that's what I just did for my new car.

OMG YOU WHORE!
:D

After all that SRT-4 Evangelizing you bought a freaking WRX!
OOOOOOOOO the Mopar freaks will have you ass now for sure.(getsome)

Enjoy your "Japanese" car ... ;)

Cum by ah My Busty Cum by Ah...

twiztedjeckel

08-25-2003, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by yashooa
Holy cats! That's an even, fair, comment I just can't be insulting!
Yes I know shocking isn't it. :eek:

All we need now is Busty Boo in here with Jecky Joo Jo Ja and we could all sing Coom By ah...

you rang?? hey speaking of SRT-4's. i had some spicy chicken something or other for dinner the other night which gave me some real badass stomach pains so i went to the bathroom to see if i could relieve myself of these issues. low and behold by the time i got done, a pile of poo in the shape of a neon was left in the bowl. kinda brought a tear to my eye to remind me what finely crafted piles of shit they are.:cool:

FunkyCold5

08-25-2003, 01:10 PM

Man, I keep on hearing test drive this test drive that. We in Virginia don't have the luxury. MSP, RX8, Mazda 6i, and SRT4 are hot cars and the dealerships here know that so they won't let you test drive any of them. But I also had the same dilema, MSP or SRT4 or Spec V. I knew my budget and I like all three cars.

I decided to choose MSP. There were 2 spec Vs in my neighborhood already and you can see them all over the place. SRT4, they jacked up the price to 25k, so that car is definitely not worth the price. Whatever happened to "performance sedan under 20k????".

Anyways, I chose the MSP cuz that is the only car I know that's hardly out there and is at a good price....plus I like the turbo. Just disappointed it doesn't have a sunroof and cruise control.

Spec V is a better buy, hence you see more of them around than anything, but having people stare at your MSP because there were not a lot made is just priceless, specially when you are blasting the 450w sound system hehehhehehe. All the cars I listed have their own quality, it's just preference. Peace.

1sty

08-25-2003, 01:12 PM

A dealer that refuses you a test drive is a creatin and should be avoided regardless of location.

FunkyCold5

08-25-2003, 01:39 PM

errrr.....well then I shouldn't buy from any dealer in VA hahahhahaha. Every dealership I've been to, if the car is new and they know it can sell like hot cakes....they know people don't like buying cars with miles in them already so they don't do test drives.

I've been to every dealership with SRT4s and MSP, they do the same thing. Of course I know a lot of people that would just go to a dealership and test drive tight cars and not buy, just to drive it. So I see both points of view. I def. know I don't want a car with any miles in it, if there are miles, I want a few grand off the sticker price.

BluMp3Turbo

08-25-2003, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by Ryno
I think that when it comes down to it, you would spend more money making an SRT-4 handle like an MSP then you would making an MSP hang with an SRT-4 in a straight line. That is until you start modding the SRT-4 too, but Im just trying to make the point that you will spend a sh*t ton of money modifying your suspension to get it to handle like an MSP, and you need to get colder plugs, exhaust, an MBC, and better fuel management to make an MSP run like an SRT-4. Just my .02:)

Ryno u are sooo wrong SRT-4's stock kill MSP while MSP ppl have to spend atleast $2000 modding it to keep up w/ SRT4 we only spend $225.97 to upgrade suspension and endlinks to corner like MSP! I know from personal experience

yashooa

08-25-2003, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by twiztedjeckel
you rang?? hey speaking of SRT-4's. i had some spicy chicken something or other for dinner the other night which gave me some real badass stomach pains so i went to the bathroom to see if i could relieve myself of these issues. low and behold by the time i got done, a pile of poo in the shape of a neon was left in the bowl. kinda brought a tear to my eye to remind me what finely crafted piles of shit they are.:cool:

Ah that smells just like fresh Jecky!

BluMp3Turbo

08-25-2003, 01:58 PM

twiztedjeckel

Your a jealous prick! I'll do you a favor I'm gonna get in touch w/ a couple of SRT-4 members around your area and you say that to them ok big tough guy!

yashooa

08-25-2003, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by FunkyCold5
Man, I keep on hearing test drive this test drive that. We in Virginia don't have the luxury. MSP, RX8, Mazda 6i, and SRT4 are hot cars and the dealerships here know that so they won't let you test drive any of them. But I also had the same dilema, MSP or SRT4 or Spec V. I knew my budget and I like all three cars.

I decided to choose MSP. There were 2 spec Vs in my neighborhood already and you can see them all over the place. SRT4, they jacked up the price to 25k, so that car is definitely not worth the price. Whatever happened to "performance sedan under 20k????".

Anyways, I chose the MSP cuz that is the only car I know that's hardly out there and is at a good price....plus I like the turbo. Just disappointed it doesn't have a sunroof and cruise control.

Spec V is a better buy, hence you see more of them around than anything, but having people stare at your MSP because there were not a lot made is just priceless, specially when you are blasting the 450w sound system hehehhehehe. All the cars I listed have their own quality, it's just preference. Peace.

My brother was all set to buy an SRT-4 but every dealer wanted 24k! So personally, I feel he was saved from the curse of the automotive-doo by the dealers greed.
He got a nice Brand New Mica Orange MSP for 17640.00$ out the door TTL and all. And now of course he loves the car and will be adding a Joe MBC with a gauge to up the fun factor just a bit.

yashooa

08-25-2003, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by BluMp3Turbo
twiztedjeckel

Your a jealous prick! I'll do you a favor I'm gonna get in touch w/ a couple of SRT-4 members around your area and you say that to them ok big tough guy!

Ah, I refer to SRT-4 as 4 wheeled ass. Do want to come get me as well?
Come on guy relax it's the "Jecky."
Heck crank that Skittle hormone down a notch will ya! Sheesh...

:rolleyes:

Please try to maintain control over you ovaries they seem to be spouting off threats towards "Jecky the Great." He will have to reach deep within your coochie hole and rip those little estrogen factories from their perch.

:To Buster and Quick SRT-4 rock on! You always have been good sports about the heck you get from us.

(rockon)

QwikSRT4

08-25-2003, 02:18 PM

Well yash, I look at it this way...even though I hate your constant bashing on my car, some of it's quite hilarious and I just brush it off. You always seem to come up with something new every time you post...

...it's the bashing that I hear over and over and over again that gets to me. You on the other hand have something that most of the bashers don't have: originality. I never expect to see the same thing come from you twice in a row. LOL!

JunkPunch

08-25-2003, 02:23 PM

Funniest...thread....EVER!

BluMp3Turbo

08-25-2003, 02:39 PM

I'm not mad and I could care less i just want to see what the other guys think about what you have to say about the car. I know a bunch of MSP guys who r cool and we always chill and they never bash on my car.. they wish they had one.

servoeyes

08-25-2003, 02:43 PM

The best neon color is silver...the worst MSP color is silver...how weird is that? I seriously think the silver MSP looks nice, but the rest just looks better. The SRT colors, though...ick. The silver looks really good, but that yellow and red just look...ick. Of course...you should always bet on black! :D

Sorry...i had to post something non-performace oriented. The SRT-4 is faster...but I dont' believe for one second that it will out corner an MSP for 300$. I also know for a fact that JoeP spent nowhere near 2k$ to get as fast as an SRT.

AGR

08-25-2003, 02:43 PM

I'm a cool dude! :cool:

1sty

08-25-2003, 02:53 PM

with a lack of LSD and to much torque the dodge will not take the MSp on the track, it is simply to hard to power through corners with that much torque steer.

The cars are different, making one the other will take money, no matter what. If they actuayl cost the same I would personaly get the dodge but with the MSP under $18K these days and the dodge climbing toward $24K I would DEFINITLY take the MSP over the SRT/4. For a $6K difference the MSP is hard to beat. Consider this, look at what exists at $6K over the neon, the 350Z, RX-8, EVO and STI are in range.

AGR

08-25-2003, 02:56 PM

I proudly paid about sticker of $20,500 for my MAZDASPEED, and I would do it again, even if the SRT-4 were $3,000 less.

funnylittlman

08-25-2003, 02:57 PM

I think I'm going to buy an Mitsu Lancer ES and SMOKE ALL YA'ALS Azzes! :D

They are the BEST track car ever! (Even Faster than the GT 40)

Beat that! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (peep)

AGR

08-25-2003, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by funnylittlman
I think I'm going to buy an Mitsu Lancer ES and SMOKE ALL YA'ALS Azzes! :D

They are the BEST track car ever! (Even Faster than the GT 40)

Beat that! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (peep)

God!... I remember when I had my first beer! :confused: :eek: (omg)

funnylittlman

08-25-2003, 03:04 PM

(beer) Woooo

(sad1) Why you gotta be picking on me! :(

:D

1sty

08-25-2003, 03:06 PM

Speaking of then never ending, "for this much I can" agument, did you guys catch the last part of the car and driver modded car shootout that the S2000 won?

On the last page they mentioned a totaly stock Z06 vette would beat EVERY CAR they had tested and would cost less then most!
(rofl)

yashooa

08-25-2003, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by AGR
I'm a cool dude! :cool:

Da coolest my elder BRUTHA!

You the "Phat-est" dude at the Nursing facility and some how you make even protective adult undergarments look cool.

Oh shit! I'm in for it now...AGR has dropped trou and is stumbling along, taking pantleg restrained baby steps, half a foot at a time, with a blade in his hand and vengance in his eye.

(dark)

mikeyb

08-25-2003, 05:04 PM

My cousin bought a 02 WR Blue WRX for 18,500 with 20k on the odemeter. It was a dealer demo with all the available STI parts, 17x7 OZ Superleggeras, and a stage 1 turbo upgrade. The dealer had the WRX dynoed at 240whp.

He gets SRT-4s all the time wanting to race him but he just ignores them. He knows his car would whip the SRT-4 so he doesn't bother. He goes for bigger game like EVOs, STis, Vettes, and Stangs.

The funny thing is he blow the tranny while racing a EVO 2 months ago so he really doesn't bother now.

funnylittlman

08-25-2003, 05:07 PM

The only problem w/ the dealer Demo is the fact that they beat the living hell outta the car.

Those are probably 14K hard miles. It sounds like a good buy, but have your cousin take it back there if anything fails... I mean anything!

(Only reason why I say this is b/c I have been told some horror stories w/ the dealer demos)

twiztedjeckel

08-25-2003, 05:22 PM

call me curious george if you will but how is it i'm a jelous prick? just wondering thats all. come one come all,call all your buddies if you will and i'll tell ya what,i'll help you out too. i'll give a friend of mine a call who's gay and just recently moved to Miami and give him your screen name and how to get ahold of you

till then keep on pimpin your Solar Yellow fudge packed pile of SRT-4 poo around mackin all the men

seatbackfurther

08-25-2003, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by RazorP5
Let me tell you something you little punk ass piece of shit. Judging by your ridiculous fucking screen name, i would be pretty good to assume you are some fucking retard punk ass kid that prolly drives a fucking piece of shit with the seat halfway onto the back seat.
The quote is from a band, but of course you don't know anything that isn't on the radio. I drive an MSP, which you "jokingly" think is a piece of shit. So in your immortal wisdom it's a piece of shit.

You prolly cant get shit for a woman because when you pimp your piece of shit car with the "seatbackfurther" than the rest of your dumb ass friends, you prolly miss all the classy women and score with only the stupid whores that find that shit cool.

My girlfriend is a nurse. Enough said.

When I voice my opinion on a car jokingly, and if you had more than 9 pathetic little posts mostly in this thread to my 1900,

I am sorry, I am not going to go back and read every post you have, nor anyone elses for that matter. I am sorry that I have a life, and I am a few credits away from finishing my bachelorette's degree in computer science. Maybe I should spend all day on the forum and find out what everyones sense of humor on here. I know it's really easy to tell sarcasm on here...

as for never seeing or hearing from your parents - thats probably why you have some serious problems socializing with other people - you need some guidence in your life, and you need to watch whos toes youre stepping on.

I said "you dont know or haven't seen my parents, so therefore, you can't make any OPINIONS about them." I know my parents and we have a great relationship.

PS - my wife isnt fat...as a matter of fact, many people on the boards have complimented her looks in many posts...here is a picture from the night i came home...myabe you just cant tell from the sig...but thats ok, because no ones opinion REALLY matters to me, just the fact that you are an asshole matters.

Again, it's my OPINION, and I think she is. I just think she is chunky and her war paint is gaudy. Then again, I like athletic women with an education that don't have to wear makeup to be beautiful. To each his own.

What are you a specialist? I think that's what that is on your jacket, but I'm not too familiar with Army insignia..

sykotick

08-25-2003, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by seatbackfurther
...I am a few credits away from finishing my bachelorette's degree in computer science...

Will there be a bachlorette party after?

Next time just type B.S and save some face

Matthew

08-25-2003, 06:33 PM

big deal you little liar...first you said you dont give a shit about your parents because you dont talk now you have a great relationship...point being is you need some social skills, but i guess they dont teach intelligence, common sense, and people skills in your fancy college...if you think im impressed when i have an associates in CE and 3/4 to a BS in CE which i have earned in less than three years being in the army, youre sadly mistaken...as for my rank, i certainly am a specialist due to be promoted to sergeant in the very near future...what do you suppose that has to do with anything?

LADY MSPD

08-25-2003, 08:28 PM

im a girl msp owner and i personally think that the msp is a much more attractive car than a neon interior, exterior by far.yea the srt4 is faster but the msp has pretty respectable speed . what kinda car has power windows in the front and manual windows in the back(srt4).......what was dodge thinking???

1sty

08-25-2003, 08:37 PM

seatbackfurther

He made a joke, you took it way to far, I suggest leaving this one alone!

If your not going to appologize then simply shut the fuck up!

Matthew

08-25-2003, 08:40 PM

If your not going to appologize then simply shut the fuck up!

craig youre the shit

AGR

08-25-2003, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by LADY MSPD
im a girl msp owner and i personally think that the msp is a much more attractive car than a neon interior, exterior by far.yea the srt4 is faster but the msp has pretty respectable speed . what kinda car has power windows in the front and manual windows in the back(srt4).......what was dodge thinking???

Giddy up, Lady!!! The window thing.... Oh; that's been mentioned a few times (many by me). (rofl)...Yeah! do a search on that!!! (peep) I think I will have a beer on that. (cheers)

Little question of the outright 'great looks' of the MAZDASPEED - certainly one of the cleanest looking sedans out there. (thumb)

1sty

08-25-2003, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by RazorP5
craig youre the shit
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08-25-2003, 10:00 PM

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DistantTea

08-25-2003, 10:42 PM

Sorry I wasn't reading this thread... what are we fighting about again? PUnks? Queers? Punk Queers who shoot bees out their mouth when they bark?

Oh wait, its an MSP vs. SRT thread... sweet jesus kill me now.

I'll tell you I autocross my MSP every god damned weekend and had our only SRT-4 recently head to SM because of the stage 1 mopar kit.

I respect the SRT-4 and its straight line speed... but with 280WHP he has alot of trouble keeping pace on the autocross course. His last car was a turbo neon RT and he took the regional hotshoe award in it. So I feel good keeping up in the handling department.

I'm not going to read six damn pages of "Queer", "Fag", "Scadian" (being the final insult)... so why is this thread still living?

You want a fair compairison... start arguing how much better the BMW 330ci and the Integra Type R are compaired to the MSP. Because those are the cars you're going to see winning nationals this year. I don't care what the argument is about, in my world its called D stock. And regardless of car cost my compairison starts and ends there.

Matthew

08-25-2003, 10:46 PM

so why is this thread still living?

sorry i am partially responsible, although most msp vs srt posts will start into a flame war...i just dont think im interested in sitting around while someone calls my wife a fat bitch...im sure you can understand

buster

08-25-2003, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by yashooa
OMG YOU WHORE!
:D

After all that SRT-4 Evangelizing you bought a freaking WRX!
OOOOOOOOO the Mopar freaks will have you ass now for sure.(getsome)

Enjoy your "Japanese" car ... ;)

Cum by ah My Busty Cum by Ah...
Ah, alas your insults keep coming. My title states I am an automotive enthusiast, I was doing a pretty good job of challenging your SRT4 comments.
And yes, I bought the WRX becuase I know that in 5-7 yrs it will be just as strong and flawless.