Test drove rx8 today

[JDM Sam]

alexlitov is a jackass.


Test drove the rx8 today. Way too easy to speed in it. hit 110 not payin any attention to the digital speedo. has a mean 2nd gear scratch. u can even get one in 3rd. car has high pimp factor. females on the road turn and notice the car. i test drove a red one. my only complaint is no low end tq. but the 9000 k rpm is fun to hit!

[Tex]

Yeah, sat in one at the dealer while waiting for my car, and it felt real good in there. I like it but not $30,000 worth.

[stlstratus]

If you had 30G's then you should buy an Evo and then you can walk up to the RX8 and say.... " Here let me give you your ass back to you on a silver platter"! :D Dont get me wrong, the RX8 does have a sweetness value! :p

[boostisgood]

Originally posted by stlstratus
If you had 30G's then you should buy an Evo and then you can walk up to the RX8 and say.... " Here let me give you your ass back to you on a silver platter"! :D Dont get me wrong, the RX8 does have a sweetness value! :p

(lol) dood, wait till Mazdaspeed Japan, Greddy, Blitz, and HKS come out with the turbo systems for the RX-8. Then the rx-8 owner will walk up to just about ALL sport compact owners and say, PHEER my 4 door. :D

[Tex]

Whoa. A boosted rotary. Hadn't thought of that.

[Kooldino]

Originally posted by Tex
Whoa. A boosted rotary. Hadn't thought of that.

Seriously? Before the 8, the only rotaries that made good hp were turboed. Often twin turboed.

[EXA4DRIVER]

Originally posted by Tex
Whoa. A boosted rotary. Hadn't thought of that.

I hope you're kidding, right? FC3S Turbo, FD3S Turbo..................

[Tex]

Heh

[AGR]

I just can't get that excited about a rotary engine.

[STLBLKMSP]

Boostisgood you know that HKs has a turbo upgrade for the evo and HKS claims that they have made as much as 540 whp with this turbp kit.

[Pkay]

they're nice as hell..... my girlfriends co-worker fell in love with our Rx7 and got his 2 weeks back.

the engine is quiet as hell compared to the rx7.....



only complaint is no turbo. we were driving back from chicago with him and while its still a fast car the rx7 can still put 10 car lengths on the rx8 like its nobodys buisness.

Theres a guy here in st louis who's worked on rx7's for years (and has one of the faster 7's in the country) who's doing turbo conversions for the rx8.



gorgeous car.... needs a turbo

[Pkay]

Originally posted by AGR
I just can't get that excited about a rotary engine.

come up to st louis sometime.... got a friend who could get you excited in about 10 seconds :)

[Pkay]

Originally posted by Kooldino
Seriously? Before the 8, the only rotaries that made good hp were turboed. Often twin turboed.

for the record... all 3rd gen rx7s are TT's

[Darin]

Originally posted by Pkay
for the record... all 3rd gen rx7s are TT's

But the FAST ones have been converted to SINGLE turbo ;) :D


I never will understand the comments like dude made about 'buy an evo! You'd hand an RX8 it's ass"

Those statement show a very low level of knowledge when it comes to 'sports cars'. On a road course, the RX8 would do VERY well...

There are things MUCH more enjoyable than acceleration - refinement...smoothness..fun factor.

:)

RX8 is MUCH MUCH more classy than the 'Mirage'

;)

[STLBLKMSP]

I'm glad to see there is another person with a msp from the STL. pkay what part of st. louis are you from and who is this friend you have that works on rx7. Does he have shop, because I'm looking for a good shop in the st. louis area.

[STLBLKMSP]

There are things MUCH more enjoyable than acceleration - refinement...smoothness..fun factor.

For some people that is what they look for in a car and as for classy looks the 350Z looks classier than an rx8.

[AGR]

I Love St. Louis!!!!

Best Steaks: Jake's Steaks!!!!!!!!!! (thumb) At Lacledes Landing.

[EXA4DRIVER]

Originally posted by STLBLKMSP
For some people that is what they look for in a car and as for classy looks the 350Z looks classier than an rx8.

I don't know about classier, but the 350Z does look better IMO. Nowith the Mazdaspeed Japan body kit, it makes the car look 100 times better. But I still like the Z better :)

[AGR]

I will take a piston engine 350Z any day!

[ZoomZoomH]

greg have you driven a rotary car lately

[AndrewF150]

With the RX-8 and MSP you get A LOT of car for your money. Look at the srt-4, you get an engine, look at the evo...engine. Thats just MHO, I would take an RX-8 over evo anyday....oh and yea, wait till the turbo kits come out for the RX-8...not only will the car be one of the best on twisties but flat out too....seriously RX-8 you get a lot for your money.


Just kind of a comparison, look at a Lexus, and than the RX-8. Take a RX-8 with the GT package, than take a Lexcus with the same options, its gonna be a whole lot more expensive....lot of car for the money!

[STLBLKMSP]

I believe that the 350Z body style was inspired by the original japanese classy car the Nissan 240 for the 70's. Kinda like what for is doing with the new 05 Mustang, basically modernizing and old body style.

[Pkay]

Originally posted by STLBLKMSP
I'm glad to see there is another person with a msp from the STL. pkay what part of st. louis are you from and who is this friend you have that works on rx7. Does he have shop, because I'm looking for a good shop in the st. louis area.

do you post on stlousstreetracing.com????


i'm talking about Eric Cheatham.... works at Bi-State Customs (a turbo shop) drives a blue 94 Rx7..... probably one of if not the fastest car in st louis..... he's a badass with turbos


I live in o'fallon but am around everywhere hehe

[yashooa]

For 28k if the RX8's would have been out I might have bought one.

[ZoomZoomH]

the Sports Pkg RX-8 is the ideal 'bang for the buck' for only $28k :)

find me another REAR WHEEL DRIVE (longitudally mounted engine), 4 seat, performance-oriented car for that price.

I can't think of any right now :D

oh yeah NEW CAR only, no cheating w/ used cars :D

[Pkay]

For the record Evo's and STi's arent all they're cracked up to be


They're both great cars and what not but their power is all in the low end. An rx8 would lose from a stop to an evo but an rx8 would completely obliterate an evo on the highway.


I dunno about you guys but 75% of my races take place while driving around and last longer than a 1/4 mile.

Even at lower speeds say 40mph or so..... if an evo rolled up on an rx8 by the time they were at 80mph the rx8 would begin to pull away slowly but surely...... why? Evo/Sti blow all their power off the line and have no obvious gain after about 50-60mph


A month or so ago in my rx7 I walked a brand new Sti to the tune of about 10 car lengths. He pulled up on me going about 55 or 60 on 370 in st louis.... waved his hand acting like he wanted to go..... he got a jump on me...... I pulled even with him at about 70-75mph..... looked at him..... waved bye-bye to him and downshifted to 4th. About 6 seconds later and at about 115mph he turned into a spec in my rearview mirror

granted i have a turbo on the 7, but any car that is more focused and more aggressive at high rpms/speeds should not fear an evo or sti.

[STLBLKMSP]

do you post on stlousstreetracing.com????

pkay this link didn't work and no I didn't know that this site was around. Where is Bi-state customs located at. You live in O'fallon missouri or O'fallon Illinois.

[stlstratus]

Hey Darin,
Every car has it ups and downs unless you bring mad cash up to the Table. For 30 grand the overall suspension and Power capabilities of the EVO VIII will over rule the RX8. You have to admit that if you compare the two (in the same price range) the RX8 will need more major work to add HP. With the EVO it already has a turbo and a FMIC and all you have to do is upgrade what you have. If you have a RX8 then you will have to buy a $3-4 grand Turbo kit and it will be like reinventing the wheel again.

Ohh and here is your (butt) ! J/k I Like your cars Darin!


Originally posted by Darin
But the FAST ones have been converted to SINGLE turbo ;) :D


I never will understand the comments like dude made about 'buy an evo! You'd hand an RX8 it's ass"

Those statement show a very low level of knowledge when it comes to 'sports cars'. On a road course, the RX8 would do VERY well...

There are things MUCH more enjoyable than acceleration - refinement...smoothness..fun factor.

:)

RX8 is MUCH MUCH more classy than the 'Mirage'

;)

[cbcbd]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the RX-8 was not meant to be a true sports car, so comparing it to the 350Z head on is not really appropriate. But it's good to see how it bests it :D

The RX-8 is a BIG car. I'm not saying it's stance isn't good, it's just that it's bigger than real sports cars.

I think I remember seeing it classified as a sports sedan, or something like that...

I still have to test drive one of those. My friend said they just got 7 more in (of every color :) )!!!! They already sold 3.

[stlstratus]

Hey STLMSPBLK, you need to go to stlracing.com! it looks kind of like this one a little and DSMtalk.com if that is the one he is talking about! call me later bro!

[Pkay]

Originally posted by stlstratus
Hey Darin,
Every car has it ups and downs unless you bring mad cash up to the Table. For 30 grand the overall suspension and Power capabilities of the EVO VIII will over rule the RX8. You have to admit that if you compare the two (in the same price range) the RX8 will need more major work to add HP. With the EVO it already has a turbo and a FMIC and all you have to do is upgrade what you have. If you have a RX8 then you will have to buy a $3-4 grand Turbo kit and it will be like reinventing the wheel again.

Ohh and here is your (butt) ! J/k I Like your cars Darin!

the fact that its a rotary engine means it's supposed to be a sports car...... even more so the rx8s rotary engine is 10 times the engine the rx7's 3rd gen is (well minus the turbo)


Put it this way..... with the EVO you've got your mods already there..... not much room to expand without dropping mad $$$$$$

with the rx8 do intake, full exhaust (not to overly expensive) and you're pushing the 280hp range.


now an evo vs a 280hp rx8.... might be close off the line..... anything other than a dead stop and my money is on the rx8

not to mention the EVO and Sti's HP is outrageously exaggerated.



Point being..... turbo or not... if you put a bit of money in the rx8 (which anyone buying an rx8 likely will do) and evo/sti isnt a worry... put a turbo on the 8 and they're not even the same league.

Like I said my 240hp rx7 obliterated a brand new sti. I'm guessing an 8 with a turbo or a few mods would do the same.

[ZoomZoomH]

NEWSBREAK! THIS JUST IN!

North American RX-8 official HP ratings have been revised!!!!!

new ratings:

6 speed 'High Power': 238HP
4 speed auto 'Standard': 197HP

read all about it here:

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9347

[Pkay]

12 hp off isnt too bad compared to the sti and evo.... i think they were in upwards of 40hp off

[Glowmunkey]

Personally, I'd just wait for the RX-7 that will be released with a turbo stock.

[ZoomingMSP]

DONT LIKE THE NEW RX8. MAZDA SHOULD HAVE LEFT THE WHOLE RX THING IN THE BASEMENT. I LOVED THE RX7S BUT WHAT IS THIS NEW SPACESHIP LOOKING THING? IF THEY TURBO THAT BEOTCH I MIGHT SAY WHAT THE HELL AND GIVE THEM SOME PROPS.

[FC3s Boy]

Originally posted by ZoomingMSP
DONT LIKE THE NEW RX8. MAZDA SHOULD HAVE LEFT THE WHOLE RX THING IN THE BASEMENT. I LOVED THE RX7S BUT WHAT IS THIS NEW SPACESHIP LOOKING THING? IF THEY TURBO THAT BEOTCH I MIGHT SAY WHAT THE HELL AND GIVE THEM SOME PROPS.
Without the first gen rx7 i don't think mazda would be around today. Find me another 4dr that can out handle it for the money..

[ZoomingMSP]

NOT BASHING MAZDA HERE BUT THE DAMN CAR IS UGLY. NOT AS GREAT OF A TRUE RACER AS THE PREVIOUS ONE. MAZDA IS JUST TRYING TO MAKE A CAR WHERE THERE IS A MARKET FOR IT. TRUST ME ALL THE IMPORT CAR COMPANYS LEARNED A LESSON IN THE MID 90S. HELL MAZDA TOYOTA MITSUBISHI ALL HAD KILLER TURBOED CARS WITH FAT ASS STICKER PRICES. WHAT IM GETTING AT IS FOR THE MONEY I WOULD JUST BUY THE STI BECAUSE IT WOULD KILL THE RX8 AND THE STI IS FOUR DOOR RIGHT? THOUGHT SO AND SO IS THE EVO..........

[InsidiousMSP]

Originally posted by Pkay
the fact that its a rotary engine means it's supposed to be a sports car...... even more so the rx8s rotary engine is 10 times the engine the rx7's 3rd gen is (well minus the turbo)


Put it this way..... with the EVO you've got your mods already there..... not much room to expand without dropping mad $$$$$$

with the rx8 do intake, full exhaust (not to overly expensive) and you're pushing the 280hp range.


now an evo vs a 280hp rx8.... might be close off the line..... anything other than a dead stop and my money is on the rx8

not to mention the EVO and Sti's HP is outrageously exaggerated.



Point being..... turbo or not... if you put a bit of money in the rx8 (which anyone buying an rx8 likely will do) and evo/sti isnt a worry... put a turbo on the 8 and they're not even the same league.


This is one of the weirdest posts I've ever read.

Fact: The EVO will run deep 12s with basic mods. It will take you months of fabrication and tons of money for an RX8 to touch that. Race from a roll? Bolt on a 20G and it's over.

I like the RX8, the interior is badass. But it's not in the same league as an EVO.

[EXA4DRIVER]

I agree w/ ^^^^^. You don't need to spend alot of cash on an EVO 8 or an STi to make it run 12's.

[ZoomingMSP]

WATCHED A EVO AND A STI RUN WED. NIGHT AT DRAG STRIP AND IT WAS AWESOME. THE EVO HAD MAJOR WORK DONE TO IT. HKS EVERYTHING. THE EVO RAN IN THE LOW 11S AND SPUN THRU THE 60 FOOT MARK. I WISH I HAD 1...........LOL

[Pkay]

Stock Evo 13.42 1/4 mile

Stock Rx8 14.39 1/4 mile


Take out the turbo and I'd be surprised if the evo was faster than 14.8 or 14.9



and as it stands the rx8 is still (from what i've seen) better on the higher end and will remain that way. You throw even a half-assed turbo on it and you've got your .9 second gap filled.

edit: like I said before Evo will beat an rx8 off the line everytime (the turbo being the main difference).... but from my experience Evo and Sti don't have much on the high end..... both the evo and the sti claim to have 50+hp more than my slightly modded rx7 and i've yet to see anything to convince me of that.

[EXA4DRIVER]

Originally posted by Pkay
Stock Evo 13.42 1/4 mile

Stock Rx8 14.39 1/4 mile


Take out the turbo and I'd be surprised if the evo was faster than 14.8 or 14.9



and as it stands the rx8 is still (from what i've seen) better on the higher end and will remain that way. You throw even a half-assed turbo on it and you've got your .9 second gap filled.

edit: like I said before Evo will beat an rx8 off the line everytime (the turbo being the main difference).... but from my experience Evo and Sti don't have much on the high end..... both the evo and the sti claim to have 50+hp more than my slightly modded rx7 and i've yet to see anything to convince me of that.

ok, say you do throw on a half ass turbo on the RX-8. For a price mcuh less than a half ass turbo set up, you can have the EVO running 12's. And by saying taking out the turbo is not really fair. The 4G63 engine was specifically made for forced induction. Hence the lower compression. With out the turbo, with the compression where its at, the EVO probablly wouldn't even pull a 16 sec 1/4.

[p2-e2]

Personally, I wasn't a huge fan of the rx-8. But with the mazdaspeed version of the rx-8, I'm sold. I like the wide body kit and spoiler, not to mention I'm a sucker for suicide doors.

<img src="http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/p2-e2/mazdaspeedrx8.jpg" alt="mazdaspeed rx-8 front">

<img src="http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/p2-e2/mazdaspeedrx8 back.jpg" alt="mazdaspeed rx-8 back">

[dominoy2k1]

for the same price range wtf?...alright with that type of argument you will get no where, for the money people can say they will get a rx7 and put atleast 10gs and kill all evos and sti and rx8, or buy a civic for 6gs and spend 15gs and kill everything on the street...the point is that the rx8 just simply looks better, it is just the best car and thats final!!!! anyone who thinks otherwise will burn in hell.....not really but still, you suck....

[AndrewF150]

Not trying to bash on ya but....


buy a civic for 6gs and spend 15gs and kill everything on the street...

Yea in the 4cyc class of things, I got my 1969 RS/SS Camaro for 6g(guy thought it was a Z28 and didn't want it :) ) and I am about 3g's away on mods to the engine from pooling 9 sec 1/4 and its still street legal at that!

p.s. I have put about 300 bucks into it so far, course I am cheating a little bit I can get insanly good parts for it really damn cheap :) , still even if I couldn't it would take me 6g's tops to do the car up right.

[InsidiousMSP]

Originally posted by Pkay
Stock Evo 13.42 1/4 mile

Stock Rx8 14.39 1/4 mile


Take out the turbo and I'd be surprised if the evo was faster than 14.8 or 14.9

Take out the turbo?...... are you serious? With the same logic, take out the rotor on a RX8 and see what it runs.


and as it stands the rx8 is still (from what i've seen) better on the higher end and will remain that way.

EVOs trap 102mph in the 1/4. RX8 traps 96mph. That means in 4th gear, the EVO is pulling hard. We can all sit here and guess what will happen from a 115mph roll... but who does that anyway?


You throw even a half-assed turbo on it and you've got your .9 second gap filled.

Throw on... I love it. Go to any shop that does custom fabrication right now and see if you can turbo an RX8 for under $8,000.

EVO? $60 boost controller and say hello to 12 second times @ 108mph+.

Think of it this way: That 12mph difference in the 1/4 between the RX8 and EVO with raised boost is the difference between a MSP with basic mods and a Ferrari F355 Berlinetta.

[twiztedjeckel]

Originally posted by AGR
I just can't get that excited about a rotary engine.

that's because you're old. get that wrinkly ass down to the dealership and go test drive one for christ sakes already would ya! your mind will then be forever changed

[twiztedjeckel]

Originally posted by Darin
But the FAST ones have been converted to SINGLE turbo ;) :D


not completely true. there are some fast cars running stock twins in the 11's and some running upgraded twins in the 10's