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Brian MP5T
07-12-2003, 07:59 PM
I've taken the time to write a kind of How To on a couple of subjects,

The first is how to install a tachometer adaptor on a 2002+ Protégé.

(THIS IS THE ONLY WAY I FOUND TO HOOK UP A BIG TACHOMETER OR SHIFT LIGHT) Others have found a wire from the ECU..

As many have noticed, the ignition system is a coil on plug system. Meaning instead of one coil charging up and feeding in this case four spark plugs, there are two coils independently connected to two spark plugs. When I first started out with my turbo install the stand-alone fuel management system needed a tachometer signal (usually a green wire). I thought that I could just connect it to the diagnostic plug mounted on the driver side strut tower, presto problem solved. Unfortunately the car is so new that all the old tricks have been replaced by technology. Basically here’s the solution. Autometer makes what is called a Tachometer Adaptor (PART #9117). It was $100.00 Canadian and was very simple to install. The unit is waterproof and has only four wires. Red, Red/Green, Black, Grey. On top of the engine are the two coils, you can’t miss them because they are covering two of the spark plugs and connected to the two other ones. Remove the split loaming and electrical tape that is covering the mess of wires leading to them. There should be three wires on each coil. A Positive, Negative and Trigger. The Positive is the wire that we want. It’s Black with a blue stripe. This is the same wire that feeds both coils. Cut the wire from the coils closest to the timing bulge on the cam cover. Be sure to disconnect both of them completely. The two wires still connected to the car both get connected to the Red wire on the adaptor and the other two still connected to the coils are connected to the Red/Green wire. Tape up your work and mount the adaptor away from the belts. Find a good ground for the Black wire and hook up your tachometer, shift light, or Tachometer Driven Stand alone fuel management system to the Grey wire. This is the only way to hook up a tachometer. If you bridge the wires to make one without the adaptor, you will fry the ignition system. If you only hook up one wire, you will only get half of the sparks being registered to your device. Motor at 2000 rpm = Tachometer at 1000 rpm. Included is a picture of the Tachometer Adaptor and the wiring schematic for the ignition system from the technical manuals. Feel free to ask me any questions. I’ve done my Turbo from scratch; many of the problems that I have already dealt with you might be dealing with now with no easy solution.
Later

good0177
07-15-2003, 11:01 PM
Hey, I was just going to ask about this because I plan on installing a Autometer Phantom Monster Tach w/ Shift light and was wondering about the coils. Can you perhaps include the wiring diagram and pics of your tach so I can get ideas of where to put it and how it looks in the car. Thanks for the write up man. Perfect timing. Peace.

paladin
07-22-2003, 09:12 AM
i see the pic :D looks nice

(scratch) but no wiring schematic????

awesome job tracking that one down


ben

tolmanron
07-29-2003, 10:50 PM
hi, i was wondering if i needed to use the tach adapter if i was just installing a tachometer w/o a shift light? i have a 2002 DX that did not come with a factory tach installed. couldn't i just hook the tach up to the wire by the diagnostic plug?

pdhaudio83
07-29-2003, 11:05 PM
i did that in my old sentra, except when i let off the gas, the tach went right to 0 rpms... :wtf:

pdhaudio83
07-29-2003, 11:07 PM
give it a shot, cant hurt, easy install too. just make sure u dont put it in the wrong plug, it might fuck stuff up (like me and my fuses i blew) lol

MazdaProbeGT
08-02-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Brian MP5T

(THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO HOOK UP A BIG TACHOMETER OR SHIFT LIGHT)
Later

Um, what do you mean "only way"??? :confused:

I just hooked up my tach the other day using the purple/white wire leading into the "diagnostics" box by the driver side firewall.

Works like a charm.

tolmanron
08-03-2003, 03:16 PM
Um, what do you mean "only way"???

I just hooked up my tach the other day using the purple/white wire leading into the "diagnostics" box by the driver side firewall.

Works like a charm.

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i jsut hooked up my tach to the wire on the diagnostics box and it works just fine.

tolmanron
08-03-2003, 03:17 PM
I just hooked up my tach the other day using the purple/white wire leading into the "diagnostics" box by the driver side firewall.


i just did the same thing and it works just fine as well!

SpicyMchaggis
08-13-2003, 04:26 AM
so how do I hook up a tach? i have a 2002 DX as well..i need a tach..badly..

rosendo192000
09-24-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by SpicyMchaggis
so how do I hook up a tach? i have a 2002 DX as well..i need a tach..badly.. Hey tolmanron is right about that diagnostics box heres this thread i anwsed to.http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31940

NetGuy
12-11-2003, 01:57 AM
Hey,

Maybe you guys can answer something for me...what's the deal with the Autometer Tach on a car that already has a tach in the cluster? Is it just for looks, or are they really that much better than the factory one? I like the shift-light, but I never understood the tach.

rosendo192000
12-11-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by NetGuy
Hey,

Maybe you guys can answer something for me...what's the deal with the Autometer Tach on a car that already has a tach in the cluster? Is it just for looks, or are they really that much better than the factory one? I like the shift-light, but I never understood the tach.
well i my self never had the autometer tach , i just had the shift light. dont really care for the big ass 5" tach

Brian MP5T
12-12-2003, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by NetGuy
Hey,

Maybe you guys can answer something for me...what's the deal with the Autometer Tach on a car that already has a tach in the cluster? Is it just for looks, or are they really that much better than the factory one? I like the shift-light, but I never understood the tach.

I guess it's supposed to be faster or more precise. I think they are Rice. To each his own. I bought a Proform Shift light. Took it apart, stuck it under the dash and wired it so it would light up a set of yellow LED's in my guage cluster. It does the trick and the car isn't cluttered with all that shit on the dash.

Brian MP5T
12-12-2003, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by tolmanron
Um, what do you mean "only way"???

I just hooked up my tach the other day using the purple/white wire leading into the "diagnostics" box by the driver side firewall.

Works like a charm.

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i jsut hooked up my tach to the wire on the diagnostics box and it works just fine.

I'm happy to hear of your luck. The tach adaptor works sweet too. For all of you that want info on it. if the thread is helpng, PM me.

Later...Brian

WRCprotege
01-21-2004, 08:15 PM
if your car has no tach (DX) its one thing... if your ride has one its more than accurate for a street driven car!!! and dont give me that i cant see when to shift crap...STOP.. buying parts and go out and learn to drive the car.. as you will perform better and thus the car, and it only cost you gas money.. my opinon of big tacks anyway

vapors
04-01-2004, 01:28 PM
just wondering which wires need to be cut on the back on an autometer tach? orange? or orange and brown?

Brian MP5T
04-02-2004, 06:56 AM
Oh Shit. I don't know because I don't have a Tach like that. I used the Tachadaptor to send a tach signal to my Extra Injector Controller. Are you sure that the paper that came with the Tach dosent specify?? Autometer has manuals on the web site and the 1-800 number is manned by the best peps. Call them, they will know.

Brian MP5T
06-26-2004, 12:18 AM
if your car has no tach (DX) its one thing... if your ride has one its more than accurate for a street driven car!!! and dont give me that i cant see when to shift crap...STOP.. buying parts and go out and learn to drive the car.. as you will perform better and thus the car, and it only cost you gas money.. my opinon of big tacks anyway
I agree with you about having a tach added, if you read above you will see that I didn't install one. This was more a how to just if someone wanted to install one...

Brian MP5T
06-08-2005, 08:46 PM
http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31940

Here is a cheaper way...

fogie1
12-31-2005, 04:42 PM
Hi, I'm a newbe here with an old old Mazda. It's a 1990 323 Hatchback. I bought it to go back and forth to work. Runs like a champ. Now my question. I purchased a Sun Tach on Ebay. It's got a four pronged plug sticking out the back. How do I hook this thing up to my 323? Any help will be deeply appreciated. ---- Joel (fogie1)

Brian MP5T
01-01-2006, 10:35 PM
The Wires Should Be

Power
Ground
Light
Signal

You only need three for it to work. I'm not a 323 expert but if the car has a distributor, the wire should be able to be hooked to the coil...

fogie1
01-07-2006, 07:53 AM
Brian,
Could you be more specific? The car has a distributor. How do I hook the tach to the coil? How can if determine which pin is which?

As you can see, I need help.

Brian MP5T
01-07-2006, 08:05 AM
Here is a tread from 2003 that might help...

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31940



I instlled my EIC-2 like some 3 Years ago, I have forgotten the wire color that I tied into, but remember, I also installed an Autometer Tach Adapter so my install will be diferent to yours. I know it is posible but I was a bit of a Pioneer breaking trail when I did my car because there was NOTHING for the new Generation Protege in 2002..

A Distributor will be round and facing the front of the car attached to the head over the Ex Manifold.

Coil Packs are two black boxes bolted to the top of the motor. There are only two visible Spark Plug Wires...

darknesshowl
02-12-2011, 01:45 AM
Thanks a LOT! I installed my tach today. I love it! i'll post pics soon! :D