Info for Hesitation/Stumble issue

[boostisgood]

This thread is to establish a baseline number of people on this board that have had the stumble/hesitation issue. Wether it is gone now, or not. please mark yes, i have had the issue.

Also, if you visit another protege board, please post a link to this thread there. I dont want to have 40 million different sources of info, so having everyone do it here is the most efficient way.

I am gathering this information to pass along to a reputable enthusiast magazine. From there, Ill see what I can do about getting the information out at any shows Im attending, or Judging. (being a judge, I know, and will meet alot of people who can also spread the word)

This is in an effort to have our twenty thousand, enthusiast driven and purchaced vehicle to OPERATE PROPERLY, and give us our smiles we soooooo badly desire. Again, Mazda needs to remember, the MSP is a great car, enthusiast purchased car, and it is us, the current owners, who can truly ruin the sale of any future cars, unless our issue is fixed.

EDIT:Guys, keep your posts clean here. I will be directing the Media to this thread. :D

[boostisgood]

great guys keep it coming

[girth]

I put in my vote. Mazda SHOULD definitely fix the thing because it takes no new parts to flash an ECU! So it's a cheap fix. And EASY too since all they have to do is GIVE IT LESS GAS!
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|-> There's the fix Mazda. Now get to work.

[CRDMS1]

PLEASE FIX IT! Soooooo bad at high ambient temps...

Peace...(hippy)

[SuperSpud]

yeah,,its about 95 every day in houston.. that makes my car hesitate like hell...

[servoeyes]

Forget High ambient temps...70-80 degF is more than crappy enough! Thanks for setting this up, BiG...hopefully this will get our point across to MNAO: We're consumers and we're tuners, and neither half is happy (entirely)!

[OrangeAppeal]

Yep, can't remember exactly when I started to notice the hesitation, but it wasn't any later than the beginning of April (though in CT, April has produced the hottest day of the year yet).

I get the hesitation in cold or warm weather, but it is definately more pronounced in the warmer weather.

I've had my dealer address the hesitation (and clunk) on 3 different occasions, and have even had a lengthly conversation with the District Customer Service Manager (last week). Being told anywhere from, "Mazda is aware of the situation and is working on a fix" to "Mazda isn't sure if it's actually a problem, but wrather a characteristic of the car"....tell me, since when is it a characteristic of any new car to hesitate and stumble?:mad:

Please fix my car!

[boostisgood]

Keep em coming guys. This is extremly important. We are trying to get a MAJOR NATIONAL MEDIA SOURCE to voice our consernes (sp) here. I will also be sending this information to Mazda, as a courtesy, about our intentions :D

Im telling ya the net is a great thing :D

[boostisgood]

BTW MODS MAKE THIS A STICKY PLEASE :D

ALong with that, I will be placing my "phone call" on Friday, and will need a volunteer, with the hesitation, close to Placentia, CA. You will need to be willing to let an editor drive your car, to witness firsthand, the hesitation. I dont know how long they will need your car, Im sure it would only need to be for a day maybe, but it will benefit us greatly.

[David MPS]

:wtf:

Does the Joe P's FPR solve the problem ?


For those of you who have a FPR, does it runs properly under high temperatures ?

[timrock101]

You have my signature on this pettition, the hesitation has to be fixed along with the clunk, for those of us lucky souls that have it.

[505zoom]

There are currently 132 msp owners on this site according to prod. #'s. This is a good start for a complaint, but I'm sure that at least 1500 msp's have been sold by now. Anyone know of any other ways to get the word out to people who are not on this forum?

[Stdjyhan99]

I'm with yah guys

[Heathen23]

thanks boostisgood. :)

[mooS mooS]

hmmm.... does this only apply to MSPs ? because I noticed a lack of power in the 4K+ area of 2nd gear in my P5 as well ....

[scapamouche]

Originally posted by 505zoom
There are currently 132 msp owners on this site according to prod. #'s. This is a good start for a complaint, but I'm sure that at least 1500 msp's have been sold by now. Anyone know of any other ways to get the word out to people who are not on this forum?

There's more than that.... Some of us (OK, maybe just ME) are paranoid enuff that we're keeping ours to ourselves....

[oliver2000]

my dealer blamed turbo lag....talking to my sales guy who sold the other MSP, the customer came back with the same issue as me.....turbo lag...yeah right

[unwrittenLaw]

get a boost gauge and show them its fully spoolin when it stumbles...

[SaaBaaDoo]

I'm with you guys, I want it FIXED

[boostisgood]

Ok guys, can we have our threads cleaned up a little :D The Media will be directed to this thread. :D Also mods, anytime your ready to make this a sticky, feel free to. (THAT MEANS NOW) :D

[unwrittenLaw]

sorry i'll edit my post..

[TURBO3WAGON]

:( . After battling the hesitation / stumble issue for the past two months, yesterday the frustration overcame the love I had for my Speed.

I traded my speed for a WRX and handed the kesy to my wife. I'll be driving he x Protege es till the RX8, STI or R32 become available.

[boostisgood]

Bump, lets go guys, get those votes in. Ino there are more then 54 MSP owners that come on this board. :D

[BremertonMSP]

My MSP has the dreaded stumble. First noticed it a couple of days after I bought the car. Annoying to say the least.

[ping]

Hey boostisgood: Here's a link to an earlier poll - I have been out of the action for a bit but am also writing a letter to MazdaUSA on the issue. Results of the earlier poll (to save you from clickin') were 82 with hesitation, 2 without. I've also voted in your poll (and I'm not one of the 2 without a problem).

I'm bringing mine in for an oil change next month and will advise the tech at that time so I'm on the record as having hesitation. You'll see in that earlier post the Mazda replies we all got, basically the same form letter.

Hope you have some luck, but remember the more publicity this issue gets the lower the resale value on our cars, even if Mazda addresses the issue. I agree that we've been more than patient with Mazda and they seem to be dragging their feet on this, but big organizations move slowly.

Two key pieces of data in our favor:

1) We are Mazda's target market: Young, influential buyers of a marquis model - people who will talk up Mazda and enthusiasts that others come to when making car-buying decisions.
2) If each of us spent $20k on our car, that's (pinky on chin) $40 MILLION dollars in top-line revenue that we represent - and that's just the (2000) 2003 models.

Good luck to you, and keep us posted. I'm going to have some tiem this weekend and will be getting at that delayed letter to MazdaUSA.

Leon Dixon
"ping"

[SaaBaaDoo]

bump it up again!

[boostisgood]

Bump like the bootie on the women I love :D

[unwrittenLaw]

Originally posted by TURBO3WAGON
:( . After battling the hesitation / stumble issue for the past two months, yesterday the frustration overcame the love I had for my Speed.

I traded my speed for a WRX and handed the kesy to my wife. I'll be driving he x Protege es till the RX8, STI or R32 become available.


Did you take a big hit on the trade in..? Did you get a new or used WRX?

[FBI14]

I have had the problem ever since owning the car. I took it to the dealer back in Feb. and they said they could find nothing wrong with it. They had their head tech drive it for 35miles and he said he felt nothing wrong. I also have zero modifications done to my car

[Turbo Matty P]

I've also had the problem since day 1. As an ASE certified mechanic I tried to explain the fuel problem to the dealer, they told me they didn't notice a problem. I flicked 'em off. I also was only offered the test drive after my loan ap went through. Even then it was less then 2 miles. My service department is horrible and any work I do to the car myself will void the warranty. I guess they don't want my car to run like it should. I also have the clunk. It's annoying, but not near annoying as that stupid-ass 10psi boost cut. WTF??. Also, we're all fools if we don't think MNAO doesn't already know about it's negative press on this car. Every article I've read on this car all said it has massive fuel/puter problems. I know if I were a manufacturer and MOTORTREND or SPORT COMPACT CAR were doing an article/head-to-head on my car I'd be the first one at the newsstand. Mazda knows this already, they don't care. I'm getting rid of this piece of shit. Doing what I should've done in the first place....buying a Scooby.

[unwrittenLaw]

I wish I could get a WRX but I can't afford to go upside down on my MSP..which is probably what would happen...:(

[Speedplease]

yes, I want my damn stut stut stut stuttttttt stuter fixed! Dman hesitation!

[perfworks]

Originally posted by Speedplease
yes, I want my damn stut stut stut stuttttttt stuter fixed! Dman hesitation!
LOL

[kwiktsi]

Originally posted by ping

, but remember the more publicity this issue gets the lower the resale value on our cars, even if Mazda addresses the issue.


I agree 100%, I think that bitching about this in public will only hurt us in the long run.. I know it is frustrating, but dont jump the gun and ruin it for everyone :).. Look at any car that has been publicized as a "problem car" - the resale is squat- dealers won't even take them as trade in's half the time.. Just my $.02 and a legitimate warning.. Like my mother always said "think before you act" :D .. I just don't want you to give the cars a bad rep that can't be reversed... Hell, maybe I will get my Evo after all and ditch this thing before you guys totally blow the resale of it :).

[kwiktsi]

Originally posted by Turbo Matty P
It's annoying, but not near annoying as that stupid-ass 10psi boost cut. WTF??.

That is so you don't blow your NA designed motor up at 10 psi :).. Pretty much all turbo cars have a fuel cut to protect it against people blowing it up- they do have to issue a warranty on these thing you know, can't have people easily blowing them up :)..



Doing what I should've done in the first place....buying a Scooby.

Oh yeah, that's an easy car to tune :rolleyes: ... Let me know when you hit low 13's and how much $$$ you spent. I looked into them and they are the worst car I could have bought to mod. Need to get a U-tech (sp?) ECU to do anything with it and then there is always the glass trans to look out for.. Pure Garbage... Every enthusiast that I know who bought one to mod, sold it within a year...
Joe

[boostisgood]

Joe your funny (lol) Ill be dynoing my car in 2 weeks with the Injen and your boost controller on it, to see what we get from those 2 mods. Ill hopefully, also have my D/P by then too.

[perfworks]

Originally posted by kwiktsi


That is so you don't blow your NA designed motor up at 10 psi :).. Pretty much all turbo cars have a fuel cut to protect it against people blowing it up- they do have to issue a warranty on these thing you know, can't have people easily blowing them up :)..




Oh yeah, that's an easy car to tune :rolleyes: ... Let me know when you hit low 13's and how much $$$ you spent. I looked into them and they are the worst car I could have bought to mod. Need to get a U-tech (sp?) ECU to do anything with it and then there is always the glass trans to look out for.. Pure Garbage... Every enthusiast that I know who bought one to mod, sold it within a year...
Joe
had one sold it in 6 months. dealer just kept refusing to fix the trans problems. it was stock
yeah i ran her a little hard sometimes but for every one person who has had NO problems there are 2-3 that have
anyway everycar has issues.

[kwiktsi]

Originally posted by boostisgood
Joe your funny (lol) Ill be dynoing my car in 2 weeks with the Injen and your boost controller on it, to see what we get from those 2 mods. Ill hopefully, also have my D/P by then too.

Cool, keep me posted. I might be hitting the strip Weds. night, if I do, I'll let you guys know what the car ran.
Joe

[505zoom]

The people who are voting NO should maybe post about their car (3 or 3.5), and driving habits. Mine "seems" fine untill about half throttle, then anything past that is real jerky. Way worse on hot days.

[Fëakhelek]

I just went to an 'Open House' for new owners at my dealer yesterday. It is an intro to the service dept. and staff and ends with a Q&A session. Somebody asked about Recalls and the service manager during his answer mentioned ECU flashes and that sometimes they issue them like if a car has hesitation. I didn't even mention it yet.

I then asked about the MSP and he said that they expected a new ECU flash from Mazda in 'about 2 weeks'. I think he has his shit straight since it seemed to be the first thing that came to his mind when talking about recalls.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :)

[Turbo Matty P]

Who said anything about making the soobie a 13 second car. Out of the box it's 57hp to the better. Also it takes little more than a good up-pipe, intake and ecu to make those cars fly. I would love my mazdaspeed if only it didn't drive so much like a damn protege.

[kwiktsi]

Originally posted by Turbo Matty P
Who said anything about making the soobie a 13 second car. Out of the box it's 57hp to the better. Also it takes little more than a good up-pipe, intake and ecu to make those cars fly. I would love my mazdaspeed if only it didn't drive so much like a damn protege.

Hehe- must be me, I expect no less from an AWD turbo car :).. Hell, I expect no less out of my MSP once it is tuned. I'll know how close I am Wednesday night as long as it doesn't RAIN AGAIN :mad: !!! As for "fly", it depends on your definition of fast.. I have seen people get in a stock MSP and almost shit themselves and I have seen people piss pound a Z06 Vette and say "It was OK, but I was expecting more".. I know my "definition" isn't a realistic goal for a daily driven WRX. As for the 57HP to the better- throw an exhaust, MBC and a couple of things on the MSP and you will be pretty damn close, if not more than the WRX HP- it has been preven... I know you can mod the WRX also, but see what happens if you up the boost without doing much else.. People think the MSP is frail.. The WRX will put a whole new meaning to the word :).. Hell, I have seen one with an FMIC, U tech, 3" turbo back, etc. that only puts 240 to the wheels. I have seen talons do that with just an MBC..

not knocking you, I just think the WRX is a poor choice for modding. Hell, any car that has "ECU" as the first mod sucks :).
Joe

[Imissmy3rdgen7]

I have become interested in purchasing the 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege. And after reading this thread with the hesitation problems I am on hold until I get confirmation that a fix is available. Mazda needs to understand that no one will buy a new car only to have a high probability of a problem after it is driven 300 miles.

Repeat: I will not buy until the fix is issued.

We will be talking to many dealers in our Metro Atlanta area and if I have news I will report it. I will keep you informed and thank you for this valuable information.

[girth]

Welcome to the board Imiss.

As far as the hesitation goes, personally I don't think you even have to wait 'till 300 miles -- I think it's there right from mile 0. It takes most people a few hundred miles though to "get the feel" of the car before they can state whether it hesitates/sutters or not I guess.

I'm glad to see you're not going to get the car until the issue is resolved - personally I love the car but at the same time I refuse to recommend it to a single person until Mazda fixes it....and if they don't, 0 recommendations will be coming from me.

But like I said, I still love the car and I kind of think many people could solve the problem (or at least greatly reduce the problem) with some of Joe's great fixes - (especially the FPR). For now I'm going to try to wait it out though and see if Mazda comes through with a fix. If not, then I guess it's Joe's FPR for me.

1 thing I sure wish I could do is drive the cars of those that say they've never had the hesitation problem (Yashooa is one that comes to mind). It's just impossible for me to believe that they've never had it when the car was stock.......................we're all using the same ECU after all.

[Imissmy3rdgen7]

I am going to be test driving a MSP tomorrow and I would like to see if I can identify the hesitation issue. How exactly can I make it happen and what should I look for? Should I go on a highway?

Thanks for the input.

[servoeyes]

here's how you recreate it...shift to second after first and romp on the gas. It won't do a damn thing. As for the stumble, under hard acceleration through 2nd and 3rd and 4th, between 3k and ~4.25k you'll feel it not pull as smooth as it should. If you don't get it doing it that way than one of two things has occured:

1) A fixed MSP...I hate to say the 8 people who said no are BSing...but I just don't believe it...
2) You didn't do it right. :D

[boostisgood]

Originally posted by Fëakhelek
I just went to an 'Open House' for new owners at my dealer yesterday. It is an intro to the service dept. and staff and ends with a Q&A session. Somebody asked about Recalls and the service manager during his answer mentioned ECU flashes and that sometimes they issue them like if a car has hesitation. I didn't even mention it yet.

I then asked about the MSP and he said that they expected a new ECU flash from Mazda in 'about 2 weeks'. I think he has his shit straight since it seemed to be the first thing that came to his mind when talking about recalls.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :)


Is this dealer Smail Mazda ? that is hwere I bought my car from.

[Fëakhelek]

Originally posted by boostisgood



Is this dealer Smail Mazda ? that is hwere I bought my car from.

Yes! It is Smail. I got one of two Black Micas. So you got the Orange. I thought that you said earlier that you got yours from the other side of town. I must be thinking of somebody else.

I'm going to search now and see if I can find any comments you have made about your dealer. I have been very happy so far but I would like a second opinion. So how have they been with you?

BTW, they have a regular Protege (not sure if it is an ES) in the showroom now with aftermarket wheels, MazdaSpeed spoiler, and exhaust tip and some other stuff on it. They also put an Ingen CAI on it. It is dark green and looks pretty good. It is sitting right where my baby was when they pulled it out of the showroom for me to drive away. :D

Let me know what you think of Smail, and what goes on in the way of Autocross, etc in The Burgh. I live about 1 1/2 hours away in Johnstown. One of the Smail guys said they sponsor a 'Fast and the Furious' night. Not sure if it is just a show or if they race or something. The name put me off a little, but I am curious what is fun to do with our MSPs in Pittsburgh.

Always good to see a Burgh presence on a national board! Now I know somebody here knows where the 'Sowside' is and what 'youuns' means. Go Stillers! :D :D :D

[boostisgood]

lmao yeah, i was dahntahn drinkin some irn city beer with donni Irs, and cahr pahr. lmao.

Smail is pretty good. Frank the service writeup guy is pretty straight. He helps alot, and the Mazdaspeed thech there is one of the best in the nation.

The FnF night is a drag race nite for sport compats at www.pittsburghracewaypark.com the next one is july 11th. As far as autox, goto www.nhscc.com to find out thier events. I have yet to find anyother Autox events. also check out www.beaverun.com they have a road course there, that just kciks ass to drive on. :D

EDIT: that green Protege is going for 21k. lmao I laughed at them for that one. All that shit on it, and no boost. AAANNNNDDDD costs more then an 03.5 MSP lol

[Fëakhelek]

Originally posted by boostisgood
lmao yeah, i was dahntahn drinkin some irn city beer with donni Irs, and cahr pahr. lmao.

Smail is pretty good. Frank the service writeup guy is pretty straight. He helps alot, and the Mazdaspeed thech there is one of the best in the nation.

The FnF night is a drag race nite for sport compats at www.pittsburghracewaypark.com the next one is july 11th. As far as autox, goto www.nhscc.com to find out thier events. I have yet to find anyother Autox events. also check out www.beaverun.com they have a road course there, that just kciks ass to drive on. :D

Hey, thanks for all the info! I have never raced and don't know about the drag events (I want to learn to drive on curves). Beaver Run sounds like my kinda thing. I will check out the links. Thanks again! Also, thanks for all the effort on the hesitation. I don't have it bad, but I do have 'flat spots' in torque. Usually at the worst times like on yellow lights. You have set the ground work so when I go in for my first service visit they will know what I am talking about. I can't emphasize enough what a favor you have done for me by educating Smail on this issue.

You should reward yourself with a Sammich from Primani Bros. :D

P.S. Is the MazdaSpeed tech Eddie? He looked at a '93 RX-7 I was looking at buying. Found oil leaks around the apex seals and turbo. Probably saved me boo-coo cash and trouble.

[rodslinger]

Make some noise. That's how the engine rattle was taken care of. Start e-mail bombing these people in corporate.

Good luck.

Engineering director, Kelvin Hiraishi KHiraish@mazdausa.com
Chief Designer, Truman Pollard TPollard@mazdausa.com

Other contacts at corporate. Make some noise!
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[kwiktsi]

Originally posted by servoeyes
here's how you recreate it...shift to second after first and romp on the gas. It won't do a damn thing. As for the stumble, under hard acceleration through 2nd and 3rd and 4th, between 3k and ~4.25k you'll feel it not pull as smooth as it should. If you don't get it doing it that way than one of two things has occured:

1) A fixed MSP...I hate to say the 8 people who said no are BSing...but I just don't believe it...
2) You didn't do it right. :D

Or most importantly- 3)- it wasn't hot enough (the car or the weather)
Joe

[boostisgood]

RODSLINGER TO THE RESUCE. Ok people, I gotta go on the road. Imma start an actual Petition type deal, and email it to those yahoos at corporate. :D

[rodslinger]

Bumpidy-do-da, bumpidy-a,
My-o-my the hesitation is gay....


Everyone sing along now.....

[Fëakhelek]

Originally posted by rodslinger
Bumpidy-do-da, bumpidy-a,
My-o-my the hesitation is gay....


Everyone sing along now.....

Extra rich mixture,
headin' your way.
Bumpidy-do-do
Neon's still gay!

[ZMN BY U]

I do notice a slight hesitation when excellerating hard it lags quite a bit when its hot out. It was 98 today in VA. On my way home i got on it and it didnt go it just hesitated and i was at half throttle. Also thanks for the help.

[Turbo Matty P]

hahaha, I love the song.

Too much Boost is on my turbo...
It's the truth, it's factual...everything is satisfactual.
Bumpidy-do-da bumpidy-a
my oh my aren't those neons so gay?

My sub is broken, the rear clunks all day.
Bumpidy-do-da bumpidy-a

[MazdaspeedHolla]

I noticed today that i didnt have as much power in 1st or 2nd gear. I don't know why this happened. It was just like all of a sudden. I guess I will park it in the garage and drive it tomorrow to work and see what happens.

[Turbo Matty P]

probably heat......nothing sucks more than heat....well, heat and owning a chrysler product!

[rodslinger]

START E-MAIL BOMBING!!!!


Engineering director, Kelvin Hiraishi KHiraish@mazdausa.com
Chief Designer, Truman Pollard TPollard@mazdausa.com

Other contacts at corporate. Make some noise!
mcheaven@mazdausa.com
rhitter@mazdausa.com
ldangond@mazdausa.com
nraman@mazdausa.com
dnapier@mazdausa.com
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breasone@mazdausa.com
ahaubric@mazdausa.com
jtodd@mazdausa.com
dholmes@mazdausa.com
klenhard@mazdausa.com
TLeimkuh@MazdaUSA.com
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mnyenhui@mazdausa.com
LSmolins@mazdausa.com
jbenefie@mazdausa.com
bsim@mazdausa.com
gkaltz@mazdausa.com
jroper@mazdausa.com
paylett@mazdausa.com

[kwiktsi]

Originally posted by rodslinger
START E-MAIL BOMBING!!!!


Engineering director, Kelvin Hiraishi KHiraish@mazdausa.com
Chief Designer, Truman Pollard TPollard@mazdausa.com

Other contacts at corporate. Make some noise!
mcheaven@mazdausa.com
rhitter@mazdausa.com
ldangond@mazdausa.com
nraman@mazdausa.com
dnapier@mazdausa.com
pweismul@mazdausa.com
breasone@mazdausa.com
ahaubric@mazdausa.com
jtodd@mazdausa.com
dholmes@mazdausa.com
klenhard@mazdausa.com
TLeimkuh@MazdaUSA.com
wskipwit@mazdausa.com
mnyenhui@mazdausa.com
LSmolins@mazdausa.com
jbenefie@mazdausa.com
bsim@mazdausa.com
gkaltz@mazdausa.com
jroper@mazdausa.com
paylett@mazdausa.com

Hahah- I may just have to cc everyone on that list and tell them I am an experienced tuner with 10+ years experience and 8+ in import performance and there setup is unacceptable. :). Maybe someone will listen for your sake. My honest opinion is you guys will get screwed somehow- either depreciate the car from all the public bitching that is planned or get some crappy mapping where they lean it out but also pull a ton of timing to prevent detonation and that would really screw the guys who want to make the power with these cars :).. I know until I see for myself exactly what the new map (if one ever comes out) does, I will not touch it with a 10 foot pole :). I have my car exactly where I want it and I am not going to take steps backwards :)..

Anyway, I'll shoot some emails to those mazdausa addresses tomorrow and try to help out. Just try not to go too public or I will be forced to sell my car before you guys ruin the value of it :).
Joe

[Turbo Matty P]

Is there a phone number to call for their corporate offices? What number is everyone calling to get their production numbers and to talk with these reps? Thanks

[boostisgood]

You will only get a cust service rep, you cant get through to the higher ups. See my petition thread, and follow the instructions, with emails, its easier traceable thena phonecall. :D

[Wesman]

I have noticed the stumble quite a bit since the hot weather has arrived. When my car was brand new 4 laps on a track would bring out the surging though. I thought it was the tiny intercooler. Its quite bad until 5,000 rpm and then it pulls hard to redline. This is bone stock.

[irr5302]

I have the problem 3 4 5 gear 4000rpm to 5500 rpm low boost or low fuel
im reduce the problem in 50% with the installation of hyper ground system only have problem in the afternoon not in the morning

1239/2000 irr Puerto Rico

[HoustonP5]

Originally posted by Imissmy3rdgen7
I have become interested in purchasing the 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege. And after reading this thread with the hesitation problems I am on hold until I get confirmation that a fix is available. Mazda needs to understand that no one will buy a new car only to have a high probability of a problem after it is driven 300 miles.

Repeat: I will not buy until the fix is issued.



I second that. Listen up Mazda! Enthusiasts will spread the word. Remember the fiasco with the underpowered 01 Miatas? Fix it and I may trade my P5.

[rodslinger]

Keep it up. And everyone needs to send notice. I know a bunch of you probably didn't thinking that someone else did so you don't need to. That is how voting gets all screwed up. Send them a complaint on a daily basis until something gets done.




Engineering director, Kelvin Hiraishi KHiraish@mazdausa.com
Chief Designer, Truman Pollard TPollard@mazdausa.com

Other contacts at corporate. Make some noise!
mcheaven@mazdausa.com
rhitter@mazdausa.com
ldangond@mazdausa.com
nraman@mazdausa.com
dnapier@mazdausa.com
pweismul@mazdausa.com
breasone@mazdausa.com
ahaubric@mazdausa.com
jtodd@mazdausa.com
dholmes@mazdausa.com
klenhard@mazdausa.com
TLeimkuh@MazdaUSA.com
wskipwit@mazdausa.com
mnyenhui@mazdausa.com
LSmolins@mazdausa.com
jbenefie@mazdausa.com
bsim@mazdausa.com
gkaltz@mazdausa.com
jroper@mazdausa.com
paylett@mazdausa.com

[rodslinger]

Engineering director, Kelvin Hiraishi KHiraish@mazdausa.com
Chief Designer, Truman Pollard TPollard@mazdausa.com

Other contacts at corporate. Make some noise!
mcheaven@mazdausa.com
rhitter@mazdausa.com
ldangond@mazdausa.com
nraman@mazdausa.com
dnapier@mazdausa.com
pweismul@mazdausa.com
breasone@mazdausa.com
ahaubric@mazdausa.com
jtodd@mazdausa.com
dholmes@mazdausa.com
klenhard@mazdausa.com
TLeimkuh@MazdaUSA.com
wskipwit@mazdausa.com
mnyenhui@mazdausa.com
LSmolins@mazdausa.com
jbenefie@mazdausa.com
bsim@mazdausa.com
gkaltz@mazdausa.com
jroper@mazdausa.com
paylett@mazdausa.com

[All Boost]

You have my vote. For some reason the hestiation got a tough better after my K&N cone filter and a ecu reset though.

[Sixmil]

Been trying to understand this problem better. I definetely feel the hesitation up to 5000 rpm, then it pulls hard. However before this point, I hear the same air sound as when the bypass valve is letting air out and my boost fluctuates. At 5k, it gets quiet, boost is straight at 6.8 or so, and the car feels great. Does this sound right?

-Six

[Dr.Sound]

Bumpidy-do-da, bumpidy-a,
My-o-my the hesitation is gay....

Everyone sing along now.....




Extra rich mixture,
headin' your way.
Bumpidy-do-da
Neon's still gay!L.M.A.O. !!!!!!
awesome!
awesome!
awesome!