should i buy

[tddelsol]

i'm torn here the mazdaspeed is a asome car the looks are amazing and it test drives well but for the same price the srt 4 runs 14.1 and already has a $4oo upgrade to 260 hp and 270 lbs tq is the speed an tunable car?? i read the threads on boost psi and a couple other ones and my ? is if yall could change your minds srt4 or mps and why thanks for the help

[Jeph]

DUDE, its still a NEON. Handles like shit too btw.

[tddelsol]

yeah i know wheel hop is horrable from what ive heard but im hearing 9-10 lbs of boost on the speed is high??? wtf my honda can handle that

[yashooa]

Buy the turd you deserve it.(laugh) (rofl) (laugh)

Seriously this topic has been gone over like 40 times here.
Just drive em and make up your damn mind.
If you want to know do a search for your beloved SRetard4 and you will find all kinds of opinions.

I'm wit da speed.

[bud_d]

it's a small turbo, just not much too boost. And if you're looking to go fast in a straight line and drive an ugly car get the neon. If you're looking for a car to tear up the twisties, look good, and not to mention the sweet stereo, the sweet rims, and way better interior, and the fact the MSP is limited production and will get way more people saying wtf kinda car is that, oh ya and as said before... it's a neon:)

[tddelsol]

thanks for the input even the smartass remarks. i wish i could test drive them both but dodge is a bunch of tools and wont let me take it for a spin so zoom zoom it is as for the stereo funny thing is i bought that exact radio for my honda a year ago.well at least im use to it

[sundevilMP5]

yeah don't let us make the choice for you...you'll just end up with a car that you don't want later on...then you'll blame on those crazy mazda fanatics...drive them and decide...

[I_Vtec]

Look at my sig. That'll tell you how I feel.

[yashooa]

Originally posted by tddelsol
thanks for the input even the smartass remarks. i wish i could test drive them both but dodge is a bunch of tools and wont let me take it for a spin so zoom zoom it is as for the stereo funny thing is i bought that exact radio for my honda a year ago.well at least im use to it

Sweet an individual with a sense of Humor!
I love my car so I am very very biased, as any car owner should
be, whether you're a turd pilot or an MSP Blacktop Samurai.

[AGR]

What is it with these FUCKING Car Dealers??!! They are so arrogant - they actually believe they are going to sell a car to me without me drivng it? I doubt it!! ASS CLOWNS!!

Fuck all dealers that play this game!

[The_Flamming_7]

yeah dude, buy the MSP<~ my biased opinion. The SRT-4 is still a fucking NEON!!! here let me stress that again, its still a fucking NEON!!!

[1sty]

Drive both cars first, then just be honest with yourself about what you want, if you need the extra acceleration abililty of the dodge then get it. No sense getting the MSP if your just going to regret it and not apriciate its advantages.

[tddelsol]

i love the speed i guess its the fact that the last new car i bought was i kia and cry when ever i see it i did love the speed for 15 mins i drove it. and by the way it may be a neon but mps is a fucking protege so thats not a valid argument

[twiztedjeckel]

your coming to the wrong place asking to buy a car. do you think your going to get people telling you to buy the neon?? come on. the aftermarket will grow for the MSP no doubt, just gotta give it time

[tddelsol]

very true look at the ser spec v theres a ton of parts out there for it now

[Heathen23]

I'm sure if he tried a search he would just find 20 threads just bashing the hell out of it.

I'm not a Neon sympathizer but both have there advantages and disadvantages. Bottom line is one is much faster in a straight line out of the box. The MSP is a little more of a complete package IMO but then again many of us are looking for ways to be a little faster ;)

What aspect of your new car is the most important to you? That might help guide your decision.

[AGR]

Thanks Guys!!! I have been sitting here at my desk laughing my ass off for awhile now.......(as I wipe a tear from my eye-:'(

They all think I'm crazy you know,,,,,,,and it's all your fault!!

[tddelsol]

ahh screw it if i need more ill just give spool a kidney for one of there turbo upgrade kits

[1sty]

AGR#7.
I just spend about 5 minutes lookiung at the picks of your spped then realized I was drooling, DAMN THAT THING LOOKS GOOD!
And I don't like the black ones typicaly.

Oh and tddelsol,
If you need specific answers on the difference of the cars just PM some people on eash board that aren't terrible partial to either. You'll probably get more useful opinions.

[AGR]

Yep! Great people here,,,and what a mix! Lots of helpful people for sure! And; a hell of a lot of fun! :D

[tddelsol]

thanks but if u think sony is the best mobile audio youve lost your mind alpine all the way

[tddelsol]

oops i can't read your sony bashing thats better
circuit city installer here

[twiztedjeckel]

Originally posted by tddelsol
thanks but if u think sony is the best mobile audio youve lost your mind alpine all the way

the best audio for the deaf. as in can't hear what they're listening to

[1sty]

Originally posted by tddelsol
oops i can't read your sony bashing thats better
circuit city installer here

Tweeter installer here and I hate sony!
Friends don't let friends buy Sony!

[tddelsol]

thats funny

[1sty]

Sony, the only electrical componet thats series name is a promise, EXPLODE!

[tddelsol]

u seen the new p miller bazooka's yet all i have to say is "bling bling dawg"

[1sty]

Nope, I have no love for that terrible company either. They ever get there crappy tubes to stop poping everytime you change a radio station in a car. i had to go through 3 troubleshooting sessions on them for a Circuit city customer that was pissed at CC and they all did the same thing. Unless the Grounds were isolated the damn thing always poped especialy with alpine V-Drive head units.

[tddelsol]

shit i cant remember what we did i think we put a resistor or a relay in line with the remote fixed it right up

[1sty]

They seemed to be grounding back througg the RCAs grounds.

[tddelsol]

there hunks of shit

[1sty]

indeed

[Micah]

Just for the record, I've seen a stock SRT-4 run 14.0 at Englishtown Racetrack. Still looks like a goddamned giant M&M.

[tddelsol]

that would be a fat paint scheme lol

[tddelsol]

u seen the ivad900 yet i heard the picture quality is amazing

[1sty]

Yes we have had one on display for almost a month and have installed 5 of them.
The new alpine screens even the CVA-1004 Just kills everything. The Kenwood and ESPECIALY the pioneers are just garbage comparitively. The crazy thing is we are whoring out at like $2099 instead of the listed $2400

[tddelsol]

were listing at 1999 but cant get any in stock.
i wonder if mazda knows all those 919's are gonna have broken ribbon cables in a year?????

[The_Flamming_7]

Originally posted by tddelsol
u seen the new p miller bazooka's yet all i have to say is "bling bling dawg"

i've seen them and personally i think they are the best sounding subs that circuitcity sells except that circuitcity recently got two 15" MTX RFL's and they aren't hooked up.

yep, they are bling bling all the way

[1sty]

Most didn't last that long, atleast 20 members already ripped that POS out!
What state are you in, I would love to F with purchasing for having something priced higher then CC.

The IVA was listing at 1999 right?

[tddelsol]

um ever heard a type r wait obviously not

[tddelsol]

texas but thats the price now when we get them in stock it might go up who knows if theyll take our comission theyll do anything

[1sty]

Back on topic a bit, the SRT/4 has a 160 amp alternator factory so big systems will be a bit easier. No good spots on the firewall for power wiring though that i saw during my inspection of it, Probably will have to drill.

[tddelsol]

hey there isnt much room under the hood and the firewall is set back to add to the fun but i think i might be done with big systems ive got 4 mtx 6000 tens on a 500d in my car now and im tired of popping panels back on that rattle loose

[1sty]

DYNOMAT!
You get it cheap like me for crist sakes, I am on my 4th bulk pack of extream.

[tddelsol]

no i got a kia its not the pannels its the pops and clips working there way out and the other day i noticed the 3rd brake light housing is cracked

[1sty]

Kia, go figure.

[tddelsol]

if i get the car tommorow im gonna try to cut the factory box for a 10 i know 3 people that did this for the ser saves space and looks good

[1sty]

which car?

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

i was trying to be an installer at places but ppl look at me and think i'm too young...

[tddelsol]

mps
i started at circiut city when i was 19

[1sty]

If you git skillz your age doesn't matter a bit.
Just show them what you were able to do in your own car.

[tddelsol]

you can have my job if you want it be there at 2 pm today

[1FASTMP5]

ok i drove both car's and they are both are good cars for the money. it really just depends on what you want. the srt-4 is able to pull more hp on stock internal's than the msp.(im not saying you cant get good power from the msp... just it would take a lot more work.) handleing wise the srt-4 inst bad. it's just not as good as the msp. you could always get it upgraded. if your looking for a car thats going to be fast, easy to tune & find parts for get the srt-4. if you want to be differant and do research and spend time finding parts and want a challange get the msp. imo i think the msp inst good for someone who is a first time tunner or new to it. mike

[tddelsol]

finally an opinion thats not its a neon ty for the input

[1sty]

I gave you that earlier.

[TURBO3WAGON]

There giving Civic SI's away at the dealer near my house..

$ 189.00 per month lease or 0 APR for up to 60 months.

[Heathen23]

finally an opinion thats not its a neon ty for the input

My opinion was very unbiased. You just didn't respond to my question.

BTW Welcome to the forum!

[tddelsol]

i know ypu've all been a big help and i do appreceate it i guess it really dosn't matter much she just called and said she thinks the srt4 is ugly so thats pretty much out now the decision between 2003 and 2003.5

[tddelsol]

she being my wife

[1sty]

The yellow is terrible, the black and red tone down the ugliness a bit.

[Vicocola]

Originally posted by tddelsol
i know ypu've all been a big help and i do appreceate it i guess it really dosn't matter much she just called and said she thinks the srt4 is ugly so thats pretty much out now the decision between 2003 and 2003.5

(lol) make me have second thought bout getting a wife or even a gf ever in my life :P

[Heathen23]

know ypu've all been a big help and i do appreceate it i guess it really dosn't matter much she just called and said she thinks the srt4 is ugly so thats pretty much out now the decision between 2003 and 2003.5

That's not an unreasonable deciding factor. I wouldn't put money into a car that I don't like the looks of. It rates pretty high on my list. I don't want to buy a car and then spend half of my mod money on trying to get it to an appearance I like.

Keep in mind the speed is fairly practical considering it's pretty roomy, has some basic creature comforts, and gets bearable MPG.

Oh, and it's a very fun-to-drive car- has a great go cart like handling factor that I haven't seen in any cars in it's class.

[unwrittenLaw]

Just get the MSP..you'll like it.

srt4 is..well..a dodge.

[JDM Sam]

ok one mod to decide which car to buy. Limited Slip Differential!
Take a turn snapping ur rear end out in a neon srt4 - probably lose control and spin out.
Take a turn snapping ur rear end out in a mazdaspeed - roller coaster ride screamin for more mash da pedal and steer where u want ur car to go! get ya some lsd speed !

[murdock_]

Originally posted by JDM Sam
ok one mod to decide which car to buy. Limited Slip Differential!
Take a turn snapping ur rear end out in a neon srt4 - probably lose control and spin out.
Take a turn snapping ur rear end out in a mazdaspeed - roller coaster ride screamin for more mash da pedal and steer where u want ur car to go! get ya some lsd speed !

AMEN BROTHA! couldnt have said it better myself. :D