New Intake? Opinions please

[PatrickP5]

rmedoc posted about this in the Protege5 forum (What do you think?), but I thought I'd post it here too. I'm wondering about this intake - it looks intrigueing. I'd appreciate any input from the "experts" in here.

www.prostreetonline.com/pso/pages/services/aero.asp?sessionId=


http://www.racerdesign.com/images/AIK-02PTG.jpg
http://www.racerdesign.com/images/AIK-02PTG_on.jpg

Thanks,
Patrick

[herarety]

I realize that may not be the picture of one for a Protege, but there's no place for the MAF on any of them, and the temp sensor doesn't look like it'll fit right either.

[melicha8]

I like the look a lot. Very simple but efficient. You certainly cant beat the price of 125.00 especially with Carbon Fibre

[PatrickP5]

Originally posted by melicha8
I like the look a lot. Very simple but efficient. You certainly cant beat the price of 125.00 especially with Carbon Fibre

Right. It's actually "Carbon Fiber Look," not really CF, but still - it's not a bad price if it's a good piece. I do worry a bit about herarety's comments about no place for a MAF or temp sensor.

Anyone else have any comments on this piece?


Patrick

[haig]

Originally posted by herarety
I realize that may not be the picture of one for a Protege, but there's no place for the MAF on any of them, and the temp sensor doesn't look like it'll fit right either.

I agree that the pic doesn't leave room for those, however I went to the website and they did not have a picture of the one for Protege.

Other than that, it's sweet!!! Similar to stock intake setup, except shorter distance to engine, higher flow filter and no ugly tubing.

[L8R]

well that pic is for the civic intake...our intake doesnt bend that way. no pic is available for our intake, but good idea, copied the autoexe intake, but much much cheaper. id buy one - chris

[enigM@]

does it fit into any category? short ram? cold-air?

[freekwonder]

Originally posted by melicha8
I like the look a lot. Very simple but efficient. You certainly cant beat the price of 125.00 especially with Carbon Fibre

actually according to the description you can get chrome or Carbon Fiber, i think i might give them a call first to see if its real carbon fiber. if it is i might get one.

These new Aero Intake Kits come with engine blockoff plates made from chrome or carbon fiber and are not only great looking in your engine bay, but help shield the intake filter from heat. Expect big gains from this intake using JKL's new design and evolutionary cooling concepts!!

I just found this on a different sight. it looks like it sets up a lot like the stock set up.
http://www.streetstyler.com/JKLAeroIntakes.htm

[freekwonder]

here is a bigger pic
http://www.racerdesign.com/images/AIK-02PTG.jpg

[Protege5Lava]

i think i'm gonna get it...now i gotta sell my HKS intake:D ...any takers?

[PatrickP5]

Originally posted by freekwonder

I just found this on a different sight. it looks like it sets up a lot like the stock set up.
http://www.streetstyler.com/JKLAeroIntakes.htm

I wonder if this one will get a good air flow. I'd like to get some numbers on gains. I'm on my way home from work now, so I don't have time to investigate right now, but I'd like to know.

I'd like to have one where it gets the tube right up into where the air is first coming into the car. The tube on this one looks like it's pretty short and the heat shield is what runs up to the front of the car - I wonder how this affects the fluid flow. I knew I should've made more friends with CFD people back in school.


Patrick


edit: I see now that they advertise "expect a 10-12hp gain," but I'd like something not so broad and that is backed up with numbers on a protege.

[enigM@]

yea i like it too

anyone think that a K&N filter would fit in there?


edit: it says it for the protege. might not fit the protege 5

[Protege5Lava]

not lookin at the P5's factory intake/airbox...this Aero intake looks pretty close to it, it just doesn't make the air run around the tubing like the one that the factory one does (sorry about not using the correct terminology :D )...
what about water and trash that may get stuck in the carbon fiber? it's not totally enclosed (where the cone air filter ends), right?....just wondering who's guessing about the construction of this "good lookin" piece...:D

[L8R]

heyyyy can we get a group buy going??? - chris

[enigM@]

is this application only for the sedan? or will it fit the hatch too ?

[Natey]

All 3rd gen 2liter intake applications are the same ;)

[enigM@]

Originally posted by eggynatey
All 3rd gen 2liter intake applications are the same ;)

it doesn't say it's for the 2.0 liter.. it's only listed for protege.. which is 1.8 liter

[haig]

Originally posted by matttrix


it doesn't say it's for the 2.0 liter.. it's only listed for protege.. which is 1.8 liter

if it's a new product, then they probably started out on the newer models, which are 2.0L engines...

seriously though, who would make an intake like that for the SE version of the car, and not for the LX 2.0L, the ES and the P5?

Makes no sense...

P.S. I like the group buy idea...but we would need to get more definitive specs on it...including maybe a dyno run...

[rmedoc]

glad to see this got more response in this forum. I always forget about this neck of the woods for posting. Glad to see you liked the find! Let me know if a group buy is started. I'd like to get in on it too!

[enigM@]

Originally posted by haig

P.S. I like the group buy idea...but we would need to get more definitive specs on it...including maybe a dyno run...

yes.. indeed

[7th_Shadow]

Im intrested in some specs/info and a group buy also

[Protege5Lava]

This is truly a nice lookin intake, plus the air will be coming in from the grill area, so the air should be cooler than some of the aftermarket ones, right? Don't flame me...you guys know what i'm tryin to say :D ... let's get the group buy going soon...
Who's gonna start it?:D

[PatrickP5]

I e-mailed Pro Street Online yesterday about this intake and just got a response - it didn't rock my world, but at least they answered. It was a quick e-mail I sent, so it for sure could've been better, but it's a start. I also e-mailed another place today for some info. The e-mails are below.

Me:

Hello. I came across your website and was wondering if you could provide some information regarding your Aero Intake Kits. I see you have one for the 2002 Mazda Protege, but I'll assume that it will also fit a 2003 Protege5 as well. Please correct me if this is wrong. Also, do you have any dyno runs to support any claims of increased performance?


Pro Street Online:

"Good day Patrick,

We have found the Aero Intakes make anywhere from 1-5
hp increase on most applications, improved throttle
response and slight torque increases. Let me know if you
have any further questions regarding this matter or if I
can assist you further. Thank you for your inquiry

John"



edit: I replied to this message asking a few more questions. I asked about the MAF/temp sensor thing that was brought up earlier, if a K&N filter would fit in there, and if a group buy was possible. I also asked them to confirm that it was on the 2.0L engine and that the rest of the car was stock when they measured this 1-5hp. Reading it again now, they say "on most applications," so I guess that means they don't have Protege-specific numbers/dyno graphs.

[L8R]

thanks patrick, big help :) - chris

[enigM@]

Originally posted by PatrickP5

We have found the Aero Intakes make anywhere from 1-5
hp increase on most applications[/B]

heeeeey, streetstyler.com claimed that it gains 10-12hp

what's up with that maaaaaan

[7th_Shadow]

Your not ever gonna get 10 hp from an intake.

1-5 Hp is a more realistic expectation but mostly IMHO intakes are about throttle response and sound.

[haig]

So where are those specs? I would definitely be interested if it can give me SRI performance with a little cooler air.

Also, what's up with the group buy? Anyone actually trying?

[flat_black]

Hey, all. I just mailed ProStreet Online, and asked them about details for a possible group buy. I probably won't be arranging it, as I personally offered to be a test subject, so I'll be purchasing the intake before hand, and test it out, also to see what, if any, horsepower gains I find using my GTech meter. I'll post about it later, too.

[flat_black]

The response just came in; If we can get 5 or more people, they'll go down to 110 each. 10 or more and they'll do 100. =) I'll foreward the e-mail to anyone interested in starting the buy.

[PatrickP5]

Originally posted by PatrickP5
I replied to this message asking a few more questions. I asked about the MAF/temp sensor thing that was brought up earlier, if a K&N filter would fit in there, and if a group buy was possible. I also asked them to confirm that it was on the 2.0L engine and that the rest of the car was stock when they measured this 1-5hp. Reading it again now, they say "on most applications," so I guess that means they don't have Protege-specific numbers/dyno graphs.


Alright. Here's Pro Street Online's response to my e-mail:

"Hi Patrick, we test these intakes with stock everything
else. Look for our Project 2002 Civic Si in the upcoming
SEMA showing and on our site, we have tested the Aero
intakes on that car for a solid gain of 3 hp and a couple
of ft lbs of torque. A group buy is possible if you provide
the details. Let me know if you have any further questions.
Thank you

John"


So I guess you can take from that what you will. It's not exactly the definitive answer we were hoping for, but what did we really expect, I guess? If someone wants to organize a group buy, go ahead. If I decide to buy one of these, I don't think I'm going to wait for a GB to go through.


Patrick

[haig]

I don't think it's a good idea if we start a group buy without getting your numbers flat_black. Wehn are you purchasing, installing, GTech meter-ing?


Originally posted by flat_black
Hey, all. I just mailed ProStreet Online, and asked them about details for a possible group buy. I probably won't be arranging it, as I personally offered to be a test subject, so I'll be purchasing the intake before hand, and test it out, also to see what, if any, horsepower gains I find using my GTech meter. I'll post about it later, too.

[AndrewSilverMP5]

I'm somewhat skeptical about this intake, especially since an image isn't available for the Protege version. It really reminds me of a Ractive intake, but with a hood. I agree with haig in that it would be wise to wait for numbers before jumping on something that seems a touch too good to be true. :)

[flat_black]

I'll probably decide if I want to purchase it for sure next week. I'd say it's probably a yes, thus far. Either way, that other picture, despite being a Ford (Probe), is of the FS-DE engine, and has the same two radiator side mount points and throttle body location as the Protege 2.0/Protege5/MP3's intake. =) Just a side note.

[enigM@]

i e-mailed them too:

Just a few questions:

1. Is it CARB exempt?
2. Does it come with directions?
3. Can the filter be replaced with a K&N?

"It is not carb registered unfortunately, however it does
come with instructions and if you find a K&N filter with
the same inlet, it can be replaced without a problem. Let
me know if you have any further questions. Thank you"

John

[PatrickP5]

Originally posted by AndrewSilverMP5
I'm somewhat skeptical about this intake, especially since an image isn't available for the Protege version. It really reminds me of a Ractive intake, but with a hood. I agree with haig in that it would be wise to wait for numbers before jumping on something that seems a touch too good to be true. :)


I edited my original post in this thread yesterday to show pics of the Protege version as well as a pic of it installed on an '02 protege (see page 1 of this thread). I'm also kindof waiting for numbers and more of a confirmation that it's a good product - it's the only thing holding me up right now. My problem is I want to get something right now - it's down to this or an Injen CAI.

Who knows how our engine compares to the Civic Si's engine? If you read my previous post with the second e-mail from Pro Street, they got 3hp on the Civic Si, as well as about 1 ft-lbf torque.


Patrick

[AndrewSilverMP5]

Originally posted by PatrickP5



I edited my original post in this thread yesterday to show pics of the Protege version as well as a pic of it installed on an '02 protege (see page 1 of this thread). I'm also kindof waiting for numbers and more of a confirmation that it's a good product - it's the only thing holding me up right now. My problem is I want to get something right now - it's down to this or an Injen CAI.

Who knows how our engine compares to the Civic Si's engine? If you read my previous post with the second e-mail from Pro Street, they got 3hp on the Civic Si, as well as about 1 ft-lbf torque.


Patrick

In that case, it REALLY looks like a Ractive Intake with a hood :D I wonder how heat resistant that cover actually is. (ie thermal conductivity or specific heat of the material) I have a feeling it won't be any better than an ebay SRI intake.
Also, is that 3hp and 1 ft-lb at the wheels or crank ?
This may be a longshot, but anyone know how it sounds ?

[haig]

Originally posted by PatrickP5



I edited my original post in this thread yesterday to show pics of the Protege version as well as a pic of it installed on an '02 protege (see page 1 of this thread). I'm also kindof waiting for numbers and more of a confirmation that it's a good product - it's the only thing holding me up right now. My problem is I want to get something right now - it's down to this or an Injen CAI.

Who knows how our engine compares to the Civic Si's engine? If you read my previous post with the second e-mail from Pro Street, they got 3hp on the Civic Si, as well as about 1 ft-lbf torque.


Patrick

I think it really looks nice. Almost like stock, but instead of having a small opening, the entire front is open. I like it!

I was also wondering about the heat resistance, but it can't be as bad as an eBay SRI can it?

Does anyone know what size the filter is? Is it washable? Can we assume that it's a standard size for replacement purposes?

[haig]

you know, if you can get a Ractive or eBay one, you can leave the front mount part on the stock intake and have it run cool air to the bigger Ractive filter....

it would be about the same and cost half as much, although I do understand that the CF looks good...

[AndrewSilverMP5]

True, I agree. You'd pretty much be spending the extra dollars on the improved "stock" look with slightly better efficiency. Personally, though, I think I'll be splurging on an Injen CAI. I like the way the chrome piping looks in the bay. (2thumbs)

[flat_black]

On heat resistance; Plastic is actually a lot more heat resistant than metal. =) After all, metal is a conductor. Hehee. Though I'm not too hot on the CF pattern, as I do like things looking stock, the chrome is far worse. =) So, once I get this (I'll probably order it monday, and have it by friday, and installed by the weekend, if all goes well), I'll get the chromed piping powder coated, and thickly if they can, to keep out a little more heat. If I have to, I'll heat-wrap the intake. Hehee. We'll see, anyway. *pets his Gtech*

[prostreetonline]

Hey guys.

This is Alex from prostreetonline.com

I can help arrange a group buy on the Aero Intake Kits (http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/pages/details.asp?productsku=PSI-AIK-02PTG) . For all people who are interested in this group buy, please email me at alex@prostreetonline.com and put in the subject line "Aero Group Buy"

Currently:
Less than 5 people = $125 each.
5 or more people = $110 each.
10 or more people = $100 each.

I'll report how many people we have, and how many more we need. Please don't email me with that subject line unless you are truly interested, so we can get an accurate count.

If you have any questions, please don't hestitate to email me, or ask me here. But once again, if you are going to ask questions about the intake, don't use that subject line above, so I can keep everything organized and clean so the process will go smoothly.

BTW, sorry about the image not working on our site. I have fixed this.

Thank you!

[P5Alive]

So what are we lookin' at, in terms of a GB, for the Injen CAI? If we can all get in for the low price of $190, as posted earlier in this thread, I'd definetly be in.

[enigM@]

This is Alex from prostreetonline.com
[/B]

I think we'd all like to see some specs before putting in money for a group buy. At least I'd like to see some `=)

[prostreetonline]

Originally posted by matttrix


I think we'd all like to see some specs before putting in money for a group buy. At least I'd like to see some `=)

What kind of specs specifically?

Thanks!

[enigM@]

possibly a dyno compared to aem and injen?

[PatrickP5]

Originally posted by prostreetonline


What kind of specs specifically?

Thanks!


I think a lot of people on here won't be happy until there's some dyno test results - they want to see the graph. Also, we'd like it to be CARB approved - we don't want to have this thing fail our smog check in California. We'd maybe like to see the instructions for install - yes, it's way simple, but we'd like to see how everything connects. Someone was concerned about how the MAF and temperature sensor go in. People want to know if a K&N filter will fit in there. I realize you may not have answers to things like the K&N filter, but these are the things that have been brought up. I've probably forgotten some others.

[prostreetonline]

Originally posted by matttrix
possibly a dyno compared to aem and injen?

I apologize but we don't have this information.

For an accurate dyno of this, you would need two identical cars and only change the intake for a dyno.

Sorry.

[PatrickP5]

I think a dyno versus stock would be reasonable.


Patrick

[prostreetonline]

Originally posted by PatrickP5



I think a lot of people on here won't be happy until there's some dyno test results - they want to see the graph. Also, we'd like it to be CARB approved - we don't want to have this thing fail our smog check in California. We'd maybe like to see the instructions for install - yes, it's way simple, but we'd like to see how everything connects. Someone was concerned about how the MAF and temperature sensor go in. People want to know if a K&N filter will fit in there. I realize you may not have answers to things like the K&N filter, but these are the things that have been brought up. I've probably forgotten some others.

We do not have dyno numbers, I'm sorry.

In terms of the carb approval, this item is not carb approved due to the type of air filter it uses. If it was carb approved, it would be much more expensive because the manufacture needs to pay for the carb approval and go through that process. It's a trade off. We are based in California, and feel your smog pain with a lot of the aftermarket products out there.

We have not installed this product on a customer car, and unfortunately, until we do, I won't be able to provide installation instructions. However, once this group buy is over, I would be more than happy to add our customers step by step install how-to on our site, so that future customers can have an easier time installing this product.

Everything needed for install comes with this product.

Thank you for your time.

[hawkwind101]

I don't know why everybody is insistant on getting dynos for Intakes. If you are buying an intake to get more hp then you are wasting your money. With our engines you MAY get 1-2hp from a SRI and MAYBE 2-5hp for a CAI. You will never see any significant hp gains.

The only thing you will truly get from an intake is better throttle response and a little more tourqe at the higher bands. Oh yeah, ther is also the nice sound.

The only way to get hp gain is to get Intake, headers and exaust. With this you may see around 10-12hp gain.

[flat_black]

I agree with Hawk. =) I don't really much care about horsepower gains with the intake, but the throttle response is what I like. I don't really want to be sucking in super hot underhood temps, though, so this is a good solution. I also don't like CAI's, though I can't quite explain why. Hehee. Just something about it. This intake in particular fits the bill nicely for me, and I'll be picking one up, pretty much for certain, now. Hopefully it'll keep the intake honk subdued enough for it to be subtle.

[hawkwind101]

Originally posted by flat_black
I agree with Hawk. =) I don't really much care about horsepower gains with the intake, but the throttle response is what I like. I don't really want to be sucking in super hot underhood temps, though, so this is a good solution. I also don't like CAI's, though I can't quite explain why. Hehee. Just something about it. This intake in particular fits the bill nicely for me, and I'll be picking one up, pretty much for certain, now. Hopefully it'll keep the intake honk subdued enough for it to be subtle.

Yeah this intake looks like it has a half decent design. Somewhere between and SRI and a CAI. You should definately get more cold air than with a regular SRI. But if you are not too worried about looks those ebay ones for $40 will do the trick. I can't see them being much worse than an AEM.

[7th_Shadow]

I agree with both Hawk and Flat on the intake. if i had the $ today i would just buy it and try it. The design looks decent kinda similar to stock and Sometimes you gotta try some things out and not worry about dyno graphs so much.

[enigM@]

We have not installed this product on a customer car, and unfortunately, until we do, I won't be able to provide installation instructions. [/B]

I e-mailed John from prostreet and he said it comes with instructions.

[prostreetonline]

Originally posted by matttrix
I e-mailed John from prostreet and he said it comes with instructions.

You are correct. The manufacture provides instructions, but we don't have our own, because we haven't installed this product on a customer car.

The product will come with manufacture instructions.

Please let me know if I can be of futher assistance, and I appreciate your interest in this product, and our site!

Thank you

[enigM@]

can't u just buy a CARB sticker??? lol

[L8R]

if a group buy is starting, IM IN... i think, im in hawaii though :( - chris

[enigM@]

this intake has a cool design as well..

http://www.weapon-r.com/dintake.html

intake $190
ram air system $75
cold air shield $50
-----------------
total $315

[flat_black]

Arrighty... I just called ProStreet and ordered the intake, two day shipping. It'll be installed by this weekend, after I paint the intake tube black. Stay tuned!

[L8R]

solid :) - chris

[Jav24]

Hey guys. First off let me just say that I bought my MP5 yesturday. I got a great deal and grabbed a Yellow MP5 w/ leather for only $13000! It was on sale due to hail damage, but there is only a few minor scratches and that can be fixed with some touch-up paint. Anyways, I would like to get to work on my car as soon as possible. This intake sounds decent, so if you guys are going in on a group buy I will join. Also, I was planning on getting the MAZDASPEED cam shafts (both of them), but first are they worth the money, and second how much should I pay for the install? I know this message is a little out of place but I have to start somewhere. Thanks guys. BTW I am in the Columbus area if anyone is from around here.

[flat_black]

Hey, Jav. =) Welcome to the club! I can't really say if the intake and exhaust cams help all that much, but from everything I've read, they help at the top end, from 4.5k to redline. Most people on the board installed them on their own, it seems.

If you're interested in the group buy, contact Alex at alex@prostreetonline.com or give him a call at 510-723-0001. The people over there seem to be nice to deal with on the phone. =) Anyway, have fun with your new P5, and keep the shiny side up! Peace.

[pro2J]

wassup?... i just got my protege recently too and so far i bought the aero intake kit and i think it made a noticable difference. i bought it from prostreetonline and they were awesome. i talked with one of the guys there and they were really nice and gave me great service. they even shipped it out on the same day. i would highly recomend them.

[enigM@]

Originally posted by pro2J
wassup?... i just got my protege recently too and so far i bought the aero intake kit and i think it made a noticable difference. i bought it from prostreetonline and they were awesome. i talked with one of the guys there and they were really nice and gave me great service. they even shipped it out on the same day. i would highly recomend them.

got any pics of the inkae installed?

[pro2J]

i don't have a digital camera right now, but i'll try and see if i can get a hold of one.

[prostreetonline]

Guys,

I've only received one email about the group buy.

If you are interested please send me an email, or reply here.

Thanks

[flat_black]

Alright! Great news. =) I got my intake today, and in my excitement, I installed it without actually painting anything at all. ;) So you guys get pictures a few days early.

Here's a bunch of pictures, including a few detail shots, of my intake, and engine in general. Alex, if you want to use the pic of my engine as the example pic for the kit, feel free. =)

I havn't used the GTech on it yet, but will tommorow on the way to work, and post the results ASAP. All in all, the throttle response is rather nice, and it makes a somewhat mellow honk under heavy throttle, a little louder than stock, but not too bad. I didn't notice any heat soak with it, but I only drove around for about an hour or so this evening. The assembly feels very solid, and I'm getting no extra noise from the setup. The filter could have been nicer, but will soon be replaced by a K&N one of similar style. All in all, even without GTech results, I think the intake was worth it. Personally, I would've kept it black, rather than the fake carbon fiber, but hey, that's me. ;) Take care!

Oh, by the by, the install took me a little under an hour, fudging around with fit, mostly. =)

[flat_black]

Oh, yeah, and if you actually wanted to SEE the pics, rather than hear about them, here's the url. ;)

http://woot.systemcrash.org/vbb225/galleryuser.php?s=&userid=2930&gallery=intake/

[flat_black]

Oh, and Alex, I'll send you a higher res picture, a little brighter, if you want to use it for the site.

[enigM@]

is the open part supposed to vent air coming in from the grill ?

[nocar]

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[nocar]

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[nocar]

i currently have a tru ram air setup and will haev pics once it is final, right now it is set for track use, and daily drivers woudl experience problem with it sitting an inch off the ground heh

[flat_black]

There is no air coming in directly from the front, but if you put a temperature probe in the front, where the intake starts, the temperature there is a lot lower than the rest of the engine. I have two thermometers in my engine compartment, one mounted where the stock airbox resides, and that one measured at 125 degrees when after driving into work today. The one up front, near the inlet of the intake read 70, about 7 degrees higher than air temperature outside. My guess is the air is being pushed up from the underside of the car by the grill or somesuch. Not quite sure. But there's a significant decrease in temperature.

After my drive in, I was rather impressed by the intake. It sounds very subtle, except at WOT, and while driving around in town, I felt no heat soak related slow down, like I normally did before. The throttle response is great, especially at high speeds (75+ mph).

The GTech test results are as follows:

Before intake:
102
102
102

After Intake:
105
104
105

Either way, it looks pretty good to me. I'll keep you updated. Still no rattles, even after going along a nicely bumpy road on the way to work to try and make sure everything was tight.

[TheLedge]

Think I may have just found my first mod! Have you found a K&N filter to fit this intake?

[flat_black]

Found one that should work in theory. The part number is RU-1830, and it has a 5 degree flange angle, 7 inches long, 3.75" tall, ovular with a 2.5" inlet. I'm not sure for certain this will work, but I've not really tried THAT hard, yet. =) The filter is 30 - 35 dollars on average.

[azeli73]

flat_black,

How's the sound? pretty throaty or quiet?

[flat_black]

Quiet, until you get to WOT above 3500 - 4000 RPM. Then the honk starts to really kick in, and it makes a loud, low, throaty noise. From the front of the car, it's a hell of a lot louder, but from inside, it's relativly tame. I noticed that yesterday as I reached in and blipped the throttle under the hood with it open. =) I can probably get a recording of the honk, if you'd like.

[azeli73]

yeah I think everyone would enjoy that (thumb)


<font size=4 color=red>800 POSTS!! :D</font>

dont tell the boss...(sssh)

[nocar]

the air goes through the grill and it hits the radiator, goes up and through that tiny space into the suction.

[freekwonder]

i would love to try that intake. but with my header i dont think it will fit. dammit

[flat_black]

Alright! I finally got a clip of the sound, as taken from inside the car with a crappy recorder. =) This was the best clip of five, so enjoy. That's mostly second and third gear you're hearing, and there's a tiny bit of distortion when it gets loud. I'm going up to about 5500-6000RPM and keeping near to WOT. WOT is when it got really loud and distorted on the recorder. ;)

Download the sound here:

http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/flat_black/intake/intake-honk.zip

[quik]

Originally posted by Protege5Lava
i think i'm gonna get it...now i gotta sell my HKS intake:D ...any takers?

I'll give you $100 for it let me know go4dabukz@yahoo.com

[quik]

Originally posted by Jav24
BTW I am in the Columbus area if anyone is from around here.

http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21707&perpage=15&pagenumber=5

[flat_black]

Don't everyone comment on the intake sound at once. ;) Hehee. I guess this is a bounce. My first!

[Protege5Lava]

Will this intake pass smog inspection or any other inspections in California?:D thanks!

[haig]

sounds nice!!!
I don't see how the sound defers from a simple SRI, as opposed to this one, although I am sure there are heat soak advantages and such...


Originally posted by flat_black
Don't everyone comment on the intake sound at once. ;) Hehee. I guess this is a bounce. My first!

[Bijou-MP5]

Originally posted by Protege5Lava
Will this intake pass smog inspection or any other inspections in California?:D thanks!

smog inspection from CAI???

[haig]

I agree with Bijou...I don't know about the regulations in California, but isn't smog usually an exhaust inspection?


Originally posted by Bijou-MP5


smog inspection from CAI???

[enigM@]

i think that person means C.A.R.B. exempt

[TheLedge]

Count me in. My first mod! :D

[Protege5Lava]

damn...do i feel @#$@%!...I can't show my face on this forum again :rolleyes: ...but ya,i meant C.A.R.B.... thanks!

[flat_black]

Hehee... It's not CARB approved at all, alas. But then again, I live on the other coast, so it's no big deal over here. =) For those of you who want in, e-mail Alex at Prostreet Online so he knows for sure and has a working list. Enjoy!

- Eddie

[Bijou-MP5]

cop won't look under the hood right???

[nocar]

biggest bullshit intake i ever seen expect 10-12 hp gain omfgOMFG

[enigM@]

Originally posted by flat_black
Alright! I finally got a clip of the sound, as taken from inside the car with a crappy recorder. =) This was the best clip of five, so enjoy. That's mostly second and third gear you're hearing, and there's a tiny bit of distortion when it gets loud. I'm going up to about 5500-6000RPM and keeping near to WOT. WOT is when it got really loud and distorted on the recorder. ;)

Download the sound here:

http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/flat_black/intake/intake-honk.zip


can u possibly get a recording from out side the car?

and what's that "psshh" hissing sound i hear ?

[prostreetonline]

Hey guys.

We have some people on the group buy.

For those who are interested, but haven't yet signed up, please send me an email.

alex@prostreetonline.com

Thanks!

[flat_black]

Yep! You'll have to wait 'till monday for me to get the outside intake noise. Do you want it in the engine compartment? 'Cause it might be difficult to record by taping a recorder too the hood without the recorder flying free and getting wind noise. ;) I'm not sure what hissing noise you're talking about, though? Do you hear it at a particular point?

[enigM@]

it's like a quick "pssh" i think right when you're shifting

[flat_black]

Oooh... Are you talking about the funny, 'rrk' noise? If so, that's my shifter. =) The polyurethane bushing for my Kart Boy shifter squeaks nicely when it slips into gear.

[sharkonwheels]

Regarding earlier posts for dyno sheet requests, uh, wouldn't that be kinda' dumb, considering it's a supposed ram-air device? I mean, the car is on a stationary dyno, so there is no ram-air effect (if it IS a true ram-air device).

Just askin' - I DO want in on the group buy - emailed Alex already.

(laserp5)

[flat_black]

This is definitly not a ram air device, perse. =) You'd need louvers or vents on the front of your hood in order for air to be pushed directly into the intake system. Cold air is actually routed from under the car, right where the lower lip is, and is pushed up past the radiator, and into the intake system, so it's definitly colder than any type of SRI that sucks warm air into the engine. Just a quick heads up. =)

[enigM@]

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anyone know how to clean the filter on this bad boy ?

.

[flat_black]

From the looks of the filter, it seems to be a red paper filter, so you'll probably be out of luck, cleaning wise. I'd say get a K&N to drop on the end, like I'm going to do. I'm gonna get a nice, big ovular one to replace the tiny one. =)

[flat_black]

Oh, that reminds me... Does anyone know what the outer diameter of the Air Mass Meter's lip? If so, thanks. =) I think it's 2 1/2", but I may be wrong.

[enigM@]

flat_black.. have you experienced anything like this with the intake??

http://www.protege5.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20786

[flat_black]

Hmmm... I don't get any hesitation, for sure. I would imagine that the drop in torque is probably there, but I don't notice it myself. If anything, the car feels more torquey, but I'd have to dyno it, anyway. But definitly no hesitation or stumbling for the 1500 miles I've driven it so far.

[prostreetonline]

Hey guys.

An update on the Group Buy.

We currently have 5 people. If anyone else is interested, please send me an email at alex@prostreetonline.com.

If you are interested, you need to get me your information by June 8th. June 9th, we will be contacting the people on the group buy list to finish processing the order.

Thanks, and let me know if you guys have any questions.

[enigM@]

flat_black

have u installed a k&n filter yet ?

[prostreetonline]

Everyone on the group buy has been notified. If you have not, please send me an email to alex@prostreetonline.com before EOD today.

Thanks!

[flat_black]

I've not yet installed the K&N filter, as I'm a bit broke this month, between insurance, registration, and inspection, but sometime next month after I've saved a little cash up again.

[flat_black]

Hehee... I just painted the intake shield solid black instead of the fake carbon fiber. It looks a LOT nicer, now, IMO. I'll post pics later, and hopefully will be able to grab that K&N filter soon.

[TheLedge]

So you painted it....flat_black? :D

[flat_black]

Uuuhhh... Yes, actually. =D Fancy that. Heehee.

[TheLedge]

Sounds cool, can't wait to see the pic's. I gave prostreet my shipping information today. I am looking forward to getting this thing installed.

[prostreetonline]

OK guys, response to the group buy has been great. Just about everyone has been processed. We still can accomodate the group buy price, please call us ASAP and tell us you are on the group buy 510-723-0001.

Thank you!

[prostreetonline]

Guys... we have 3 intakes left. They are in stock, and will ship same day.

These are intakes from the group buy that people didn't pay for. We need to get them out of here. We are selling them BELOW OUR COST, for only $95, plus shipping.

If you are interested, please give us a call, 510-723-0001.

thanks

[enigM@]

any word from the people that participated in this group buy?

how's the intake?

[Dimitrios]

Interesting thread. I am looking to possibly pick a unit up. Will have to go to the speed shop with it or something and figure out what K&N filter will fit - the original filter is a paper cone? I wonder if that's how they're able to keep prices low.

Also, what's the quality of the tubing from the MAF to the filter? I am thinking about having that ceramic coated if I go this (or any intake) route.

[flat_black]

Gah... I forgot to post here with the pictures I took of the intake after being painted black... Mine's still working quite well, though I still have yet to order the K&N replacement filter for it... Lazy me. =) Hehee. Anyway, go ahead, and take a look at the images I have of the intake at:
http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/flat_black/protege5-bay.jpg

and

http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/flat_black/protege5-intake_detail.jpg

Enjoy. The coating on the intake tube seemed to help in resisting heat quite a bit, and in my using the intake, I would suggest a little bit of sealing grease or whatnot between the two plastic parts. It might be a little messy to take it apart later, but it'll help keep the heat soak out from the little nooks and crannies.

[Dimitrios]

Oh, so you did coat it? Jet Hot quoted me $15/ft in and out with their ceramic sterling finish - $35 for the "matte" finishes. Does that sound reasonable - temperature ratings for those coatings are 1400 deg. F

[flat_black]

RU-1830 is the part number that I think will work with the intake... It looks rather different, but it should fit within the constraints of the intake housing, and offer more filter coverage, so hopefully it'll work well. I'm going to order it up today. As far as for ceramic coating, I'd say that's definitly a good price. I didn't get charged for mine, as a friend was doing it at his own shop, and did mine along with his stuff. The ceramic coating added a good deal of rigidity to the flimsy aluminum tube from the MAF sensor to the throttle body, so it seems to have helped in that respect, too. =) I'll tell you when the K&N filter arrives, though, and keep you updated.

[Dimitrios]

/\ Nice...thanks for being our ginuea pig for this intake!! lol...

[flat_black]

Hehee... No problem. =) I've always been one to dive in head first without looking. ;) Well, not really, but hey. Hehee. I ordered it from www.4filters.com, and it should be here in 5 to 7 days. They didn't have the lowest price, but they did have the shortest turnaround time; All the others said it'd be two to four weeks. =P So, I'll let you know when it comes in, and it'll probably be installed that day.

[p5sundevil]

OK i read the first 7 pages of this thread so if I ask somethin already answered forgive me.

So we have seen that the temp near the front where the opening is is definately colder than most areas in the engine bay. Also even though the web site said a 10-12hp increase alex has already said on our application expect more like 1-5 and the GTech results from another member here said it was 2-3hp.

What my questions are is what gains have people seen on our 2.0l cars with the injen RDCAI? I ask because by the time you spend 120 on the intake and another 30 on the K&N filter your at 150, and I can get a black injen for 202 shipped i think.

Also that link someone posted on page 3 or 4 of this thread about those weaponR intakes. On the link given it shows a comparison a mag did with all the intake manufacturers and supposedly the weaponR showed the best gains. I dont know what car or setup it was tested on but I assume all the intakes were tested equally. Has anyone had any experience witht he weaponR intake system? I am talking about the CAI one not SR.

Basically I am asking because I currently use the ebay intake which I got for 35 shipped but I dont like how hot the tubing gets, I really really dont like how the support brackets work and the way it is set up now is the filter is right above the hole that the injen intake goes through in the front left fender area. I would like to upgrade if it would help the car out.

SO I guess after running my mouth there basically I am asking if anyone has had experience witht he weaponR intake, what gains have been seen with the Injen CAI and opinions on whether you guys think upgrading the intake from the ebay one is worth the money.

Thx everyone, feedback is appreciated.

[hawkwind101]

First of all you cannot go by the test results from a mag. They usually test the different intakes on one type of car. Those same brand intakes will give different results on another car. For example the Injen CAI is the best intake for the RSX but may not be the best for another type of car.

The fact is on our car there is no significant difference between the different type of intakes. Unless you consider 1-2 HP significant. If you are not worried about the looks of the intake stick with the ebay one. It isn't worth the money to replace it.

[flat_black]

This intake is something of a compromise between a CAI and a SRI... It's short, as is an SRI, but it draws in slightly cooler air. The difference is not huge between it and a CAI, but the CAI is more exposed to the elements, somewhat. I like the idea of keeping my element someone enclosed, and that's my main reason for buying it. But the CAI does draw in much cooler air, as it doesn't need to deal with heat soak from the engine as much as any element placed within the compartment. As far as functionality, the ebay SRI actually contributes to a loss of power, from what I've heard from those who use them. But that's just skinny of my findings.

[TheLedge]

I put my Aero intake in 2 weeks ago and really like it. It really sounds great, throttle response seems quicker, and because prostreet lost my group buy info I got one of the leftovers for $95 plus shipping. I think it is well worth the money.

I can feel a vibration/rattle in the clutch pedal since I installed the intake. Has anyone else run into this? I am going to make a bracket to go from the old factory bracket near the battery up to the factory sensor box to help sturdy the thing.

Overall I am impressed with the Intake. A nice cross between the RAM and CAI. :D

[flat_black]

Hehee... Yes, I know exactly what feeling you're talking about. =) I took a 3/4" wide sheet of aluminum, measured it up, bent it at a 90 degree angle, then drilled holes in the appropriate places to anchor it, so I didn't get that 'thunk-thunk-thunk' when letting off the clutch at low revs.

[TheLedge]

I wish they had included that in the kit. It is so simple and the holes line up almost perfect. I also would have liked to see them include a flange welded to the intake tube to mount the hoses/sensor (not sure exactly what it is) instead of having to zip tie the thing.

Not trying to be negative though. I really like the intake.....just a few fit and finish things.

[flat_black]

Yeah, I agree a few things could've fit a little better... Though I'm still not sure what the hell that little sensor is that's normally mounted atop the intake tube. Anyone have any clue at all?

[thewrench]

Hey flat_black did you ever get that K&N filter for this thing? Did it fit? Sorry to bring this back, I was just wondering if it worked so I can get a spare for my intake.

Thanks,
James T

[flat_black]

Yeah, I got the K&N, but it doesn't fit at all... Much too long and thick (don't laugh!). I'm totally strapped for money lately, so I can't test out any more, but anyone else is welcome to try. Sorry guys. =/

[thewrench]

Thanks for trying, I'll start looking around, too. I would hope I could get a replacement from JKL if I needed to, but I really want to find something better. ( I guess about the only time too long and thick is a problem, huh) (naughty)

JT

[flat_black]

K&N is the way to go if you can find one.

Can any of you measure the stock filter and tell me the whole dimensions of it? (IE, filter segment length, widest width, rubber flange length, etc...)

If so, I can hunt one down that should fit just right from the fitiment sources I have.

[luwe]

this is very late in posting but i'd have to say that the image in the first page looks like a ford lynx and not a probe. the lynx is a protege as it's on the same chassis. only difference is the exterior aesthetics such as the fenders, lights and bumpers

[flat_black]

Ahh, yeah... Over in the states, that was a Ford Escort/Mercury Lynx, which stopped being the Lynx in 1991. =) Just a little bit of odd history. I don'y think the Lynx in the states ever saw the FS-DE 2.0 engine, but the Escort did.

[luwe]

lol all the different names will leave a lot of people like me crosseyed

[Minus]

Originally posted by Protege5Lava
i think i'm gonna get it...now i gotta sell my HKS intake:D ...any takers?

i'll take it!
how much??

[mcstark]

Any feedback from the group-buy buyers?

[Minus]

hrmm, never mind, i just ordered my own intake :P

[/\/imda]

Originally posted by matttrix
this intake has a cool design as well..

http://www.weapon-r.com/dintake.html

intake $190
ram air system $75
cold air shield $50
-----------------
total $315




dyno specs are nice...the filter is kinda rice tho..

[mcstark]

You want some sweet n sour pork with that rice??? Onyl one word to describe that intake: FUGLY!

[thewrench]

If anybody who bought this intake wants to sell it now, please contact me.

http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46179

Thanks
James T

[IchBinEinMP5]

Wow, super long thread! I have seen this intake on the Pro Street Online website for $90...

[thewrench]

Yeah, it's no longer being made. I've got a future project to do with it and I don't want to screw mine up.

[akhilleus]

crap...i think its crap...crappy small filter...not much different then the factory except its open unlike the factory air intake meaning it will suck hot air...maybe the scoop would be good if u had a SRI but not the one included...bleh

[freekwonder]

did anybody get a before/after dyno of the intake.

in not then you cant say it is crap unless you got proof.

[Togan]

i havent seen that CF cover on anyone else who has protege5 (uhm) i dont have it either..btw is anyone selling their unused filter? :D

[TheLedge]

Originally posted by akhilleus
crap...i think its crap...crappy small filter...not much different then the factory except its open unlike the factory air intake meaning it will suck hot air...maybe the scoop would be good if u had a SRI but not the one included...bleh


(lol)

I have not seen ANY dyno info on ANY brand of intake for the protege that shows ANY real gains. So really it just becomes a matter of taste. I like mine. I think it looks good, it sounds great, and no worries of hydrolock. And yes there has been documented proof that the air temps coming in are cooler than the air in the engine bay that a typical RAM Intake would draw from. My only gripe is that I have not found a K&N filter to fit it yet.

I am not saying it is better than any other brand but it is not 'crap' either.

[akhilleus]

i still think it is crap...sorry. not power wise but it just looks cheap. IMO