okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Dexter]

sub dead.

i was cleaning and washing my car with the music on, and all of sudden it cuts out. im like wtf so i pop the trunk. nope, dead. check the NF volume level. its up, NF is on. get pissed and smack the amp. it comes on for a second. smack the sub. it comes on for 2 or 3 seconds. fades out.

booooooo :bs:

[FuNwaGoN]

1 word

KENWOOD

[Dexter]

no shit, where did they get this junk, the Kenwood Refurbished Crap Outlet

[Captain KRM P5]

maybe you fukked it up when you rolled the 'speed? who knows - get it replaced under warranty or drop some green on a newer and better one. time for a trip to tweeter...

[Dexter]

nah man it was working 100% fine this whole time. grr i hate goin back to the dealer though....i know...ill get it replaced dealer, then fuckin ebay it, and buy a differetrnt one

[REMillers]

Ahh the parts bin suprise strikes again. ;)

[mspeedpro]

def ur best option dexter. let me know what u find!! i am in the market for the worlds best 8" sub that will fit in that opening, anyone got ideas??

[TURBO3WAGON]

ROCKFORD FOSGATE, THE PUNCH FOR THE TRUNK!



:cool:

[mrpopnfresh]

Would you guys prefer Rockford, or JL's? I heard JL w6's are nice, but I've been hearing a lot about Rockfords from people in this forum.

[Vicocola]

i have a better option... go play www.midnitechallenge.com and win the whole system =P

[derrick1623]

Originally posted by Vicocola
i have a better option... go play www.midnitechallenge.com and win the whole system =P

hey, that was MY plan too.lmao

i would stick a jl in there if it was me.

[t3ase]

JL by far. I've used both and now I have two 10W0s in there.. VERY clean.

And by the way, Dex, my sub's blown too.

[AGR]

Originally posted by Dexter
nah man it was working 100% fine this whole time. grr i hate goin back to the dealer though....i know...ill get it replaced dealer, then fuckin ebay it, and buy a differetrnt one


Dex: Dude! Take a pill! Relax! All is good, buddy. Don't get so stressed out. These things happen, and yeah; they are a pain in the ass. Mazda will make it good for you. Rest assured.

[Dexter]

i am chill. i just sound pissed off. lol. i just really DESPISE going back to the dealer, but all is well. ive only got one more day of school, and then i got all the time in the world to grab my friends and head on over there. staying in the dealership waiting rooms by yourself SUX FAT NUTS heheh

[servoeyes]

One thing Dex...bring a multimeter, check the sub impedence in front of them and save yourself some wait. They're gonna want to check this, that and the other. Chances are they won't have the damn thing in stock and they have to order the whole sub box. My dealer had to order it and it's on back order...that was about 2 weeks ago. Enjoy! I'm not...(argh)

[Albert]

I know EXACTLY what you're going thru, Dex. Friday, drive to work, sub worked fine. Got out of work, no sub. Took it in today, they "verified" it wasn't working (the amp is getting power and it's sending the signal to the sub). Of course Mazda was closed when they tried to call to get the part, so I have to wait to hear from them tomorrow to see what's up. Wonderful. They better replace the whole damn thing.

Has anyone else taken theirs apart? I took it out, took all the screws out, but the carpeted particle board was glued to the plastic, so I never got to see the sub itself. Has anyone broken the glue out and taken a look inside?

[Gazord]

My sub has been dead for about a week now too... I haven't had time to investigate it to see if the amp is getting a signal or not. Every once in a while it will kick on for a couple seconds and then cut off...

I haven't been too worried about it cause it sucks anyway, motivation to put some real bass in there. Kinda strange a lot of peoples seems to be dying though...:wtf:

[Dexter]

this is lame. thanks for the info albert, thats exactly what is goin on. the amp is on, the red LED is on. boooo

[tekkie]

I dunno what is wrong with mine but this morning on the way to work the damn sub kept cutting in and out, then on the way home tonight it did the same thing. Mine almost seems like there is something loose because once I turn the music up loud it starts up again, like it rattles something back into place. I have not had a chance to look in the trunk yet but I am hoping its something as simple as tightening a screw. what are the chance of luck going my way for once.. I dont really care its still under warranty ;)

[servoeyes]

I went through this before and brought it up with 1st MP3, who seemed to think that we're all just setting our bass eq boost too high. Seemed logical at the time. But the cutting in and out seems to point to a qc flaw that kenwood missed. I get the feeling that these things are on backorder because kenwood is replacing/testing each and every box, so it may take a bit. Hopefully we'll end up with some good stuff in the end though. I thought they should have put a better quality sub in the trunk, from the beginning!! Oh vell....

[Aricjm15]

then why not buy a high quality 8inch sub that will fit
and rip out that kenwood pile of shit

[servoeyes]

Like albert said:

Has anyone else taken theirs apart? I took it out, took all the screws out, but the carpeted particle board was glued to the plastic, so I never got to see the sub itself. Has anyone broken the glue out and taken a look inside?

You can't pull the shit apart too easily...besides. Why not just spend the money on my intake, or towards snow rims, or something. I'd go with the JL but in a battle between free and 120$...free will always win. Until I'm rich...:D

[Albert]

03SpeedLSD PM'd me with this:


If you pull the grill out, there are 6-8 screws that hold the sub in place. I have taken it out to look at it. It is a SVC sub. Kinda shitty if you ask me...Later

I haven't done it yet (don't want to fuck it up if they're going to replace it) but I will in the future just to see what's inside. I can always get a new grill if I fuck it up.

[OrangeMSP]

JL 8W0 goes in there perfectly and sound a shit load better
another thing is check the cross over on the amp im a installer and that is one of the first things i checked on when i bought my car and it was on full-range that can kill a sub quick make sure its on the 'LP'

[alldat1111]

My sub went out too. Mazda ended up replacing the sub and the amp,

[Dexter]

do you get the keep the shit they replace? or do they send back for refurbishment?

[funnylittlman]

Originally posted by OrangeMSP
JL 8W0 goes in there perfectly and sound a shit load better
another thing is check the cross over on the amp im a installer and that is one of the first things i checked on when i bought my car and it was on full-range that can kill a sub quick make sure its on the 'LP'

Thanks OrangeMSP! I'll check the amp this afternoon! :D

[Emode]

what about the elemental deisgns a series. They are high quality and pretty thin from what i heard. So it could maybe fit up in the box nicely.......

[Emode]

http://www.edesignaudio.com/ep/aseries.htm

[Albert]

::begin rant::

Ok, this really fuckin blows! I had to call the dealership to find out if they found anything out about what they're doing with my non-working sub. The guy tells me, contrary to what he told me yesterday, that they'll need my car again to do 'further testing' to see if they can find out what the problem is because Mazda told them that there have been no reported problems with the subwoofers so far! :wtf: is that? I told him I'll print out this thread and show him how many people have had trouble with them, and that Mazda knows about it. He gave me the BS about only reading the "corporate" sites and there's nothing on there.

So now I have to decide if I want them to have my car for a day to "test" it more, then have it for another day to install the new one, or just go out and buy a new sub for it. The dealership is not close to my house or my work, so it's a pain in the ass every time I have to go there (not to mention that I dislike that dealership because I had my deposit down there for 4 months and ended up buying the car from a dealer in IL because he had one for me the next damn day).

Stupid delaerships ...

::end rant::

[Aaron]

yes guys check the gain setting on your amps who ever is installing these things is putting the gain alomost all the way up. not gooood!!! I had to check mine and turned it down to almost lowest setting. Distortion is killing your subs!!!

[funnylittlman]

Yet something else to check ! :D

I'll post my results tonight

[unwrittenLaw]

Anyone know how long the warranty is on the audio?

[AGR]

Originally posted by unwrittenLaw
Anyone know how long the warranty is on the audio?

Isn't everything 4 year - 50,000 mile?

[mspeedpro]

what should the gain be put at?? does it sound any better after adjusted??

[Dexter]

my gain was at 1.0

thats Bass Q, right?

[funnylittlman]

I thought he meant on the actual amp

[Dexter]

Originally posted by Albert
::begin rant::

Ok, this really fuckin blows! I had to call the dealership to find out if they found anything out about what they're doing with my non-working sub. The guy tells me, contrary to what he told me yesterday, that they'll need my car again to do 'further testing' to see if they can find out what the problem is because Mazda told them that there have been no reported problems with the subwoofers so far! :wtf: is that? I told him I'll print out this thread and show him how many people have had trouble with them, and that Mazda knows about it. He gave me the BS about only reading the "corporate" sites and there's nothing on there.

So now I have to decide if I want them to have my car for a day to "test" it more, then have it for another day to install the new one, or just go out and buy a new sub for it. The dealership is not close to my house or my work, so it's a pain in the ass every time I have to go there (not to mention that I dislike that dealership because I had my deposit down there for 4 months and ended up buying the car from a dealer in IL because he had one for me the next damn day).

Stupid delaerships ...

::end rant::

i hate your dealership for the both of us. hopefully mine wont be this way

[servoeyes]

Damn Albert...your dealership blows! I tested it, told them over the phone, dropped it off to be checked the next day, they verified my results while I was at work, called me around 2:00 and said it's ready, but we have to order the enclosure. It doesn't matter if Mazda knows or doesn't about the problem. It's your car and if it's causing a problem the warranty stands. They should fix it...jackasses!

On a lighter note, I got the call yesterday (after about 1.5 weeks) that my enclosure arrived. Dropping car off sunday night to have work done monday. Wee!!

Also...there's several settings to check. On the amp check your sensitivity. That should not be cranked too high. Make sure LPF if set (it should be). The other setting is the Bass Q on the head. 1st MP3 has noted that it will cause distortion above zero level.
Check here (http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17788) to see recommended settings

Link Fixed

[funnylittlman]

Hey Servo,

that link didn't work... try this one:

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17788

[alldat1111]

Dexter,
when my sub and amp went out the dealership kept the stuff and i guess gave me new stuff. im gonna call and find out

[Albert]

Well, it took 3 days, but my sound is back to normal. They "determined" that the sub went bad (didn't get any more info than that) and replaced it. Of course, they didn't do that the day they GOT the part, it had to be the next day since I "fell through the cracks" and didn't get worked on.

I can't wait until this new dealership opens closer to my house!

At least it sounds good. My parents could hear me coming down the street!

Zoom Zoom ... Boom Boom

[Dexter]

i havent had the chance to go to the stealership yet maybe tuesday or something

[Albert]

Well, I have the new sub enclosure in and it's been bugging me because there's been a rattling around that area. Just got done taking the new one out and noticed something. The old contraption had weather stripping on it on the plastic parts that come close to the underside of the trunk - the new one doesn't. That explains the rattling. Weather stripping is like $2.50 at Lowe's, so no need to go back to the dealership for that.

Now my question: Should the amp be set to stereo or mono operation (1st MP3?)? All the other setting I've found in the forums and set them accordingly, but I'm just wondering about this one. They have it set up for bridged output, too, is that correct?

Thanks.

[funnylittlman]

Wouldn't the sub be a mono setting since there is only one speaker? I think that Mono would have a clearer sound. On really high end theatre equipment they run each channel mono.... now that's awesome sound... a true 7.1 experience! :D

[slseale]

That is not correct Albert I am picking up my new sub today from the dealership. They told me they have had reports of the subs just stopping. I looked around for a sub to replace the stock one but the only JL that would fit is the lower end one and well he told me the kenwood one was just about the same, so I kept that one. I have a JL 12 in the car as well so I guess it doesn't affect me as much.

[Albert]

That is not correct Albert

What is not correct?

[funnylittlman]

So you would run a stereo sound through that speaker?

Hm... ok

[Dexter]

aww man i still havent gotten my sub fixed. im so fucking lazy :(

[funnylittlman]

Just out of curiousity?

How did you guys listen to your music? (type, volume level, settings (pop,Top40,Rock, custom, etc) ) ?

I have noticed w/ mine that if I listen anythign past 21-22, I can hear some distortion in the sub. So that means when the windows are down, I turn the sound settings to flat and then crank it more, if not ... KABOOM!

[Albert]

I kinda use a combination of the 'recommended' settings from the flier that came with the car and recommended settings I've found on here (keep low, mid, high set to 0, use NF level to adjust bass, etc). Music type is varied, but lately it's been a lot of Tool, Ill Nino, They Might Be Giants, and of course howard Stern in the morning (he's got so much bass in his voice it's scary!). EQ settings set to flat.

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

haha go to www.edesignaudio.com click on products, then the a series subs. check out that 8" beast!!!

[Dexter]

i usually listen to Deftones, Tool, Rage Against the Machine, Nirvana, Thursday, Incubus, Foo Fighters, System of a Down, The Offspring, Audioslave, CKY, Red Hot Chili Peppers, AFI, Papa Roach, A Perfect Circle...when i want to mix it up i listen to LTJ Bukem, DJ Shadow, UNKLE.

my settings were usually on that stupid Pop setting and the radio was on default EQ settings since i kept resetting my radio like 540 times when i was installing my turbo timer. i just finally added presets like 2 weeks ago.

i havent ever heard distortion on my system until about 28 or so. its been awhile tho since ive had a sub to play with.

[funnylittlman]

:eek:

28.... Dex, I've never taken mine that high:eek: Not that it's a bad thing. For me, I have heard distortion above 22, you can hear it, but very faintly you can hear the sub starting to strain

[Dark Ringleader]

Yea I listen to a lot of punk/metal when I'm cruising, but when I'm out pimpin for the ladies I turn on some trance/jungle/techno or maybe some hip hop. I listen to all kinds of music but punk is where the heart is :D

[TURBO3WAGON]

My sub took a shit this past weekend, what a POS! I’m going to raise hell at the dealer this week.

[Dexter]

Originally posted by funnylittlman
:eek:

28.... Dex, I've never taken mine that high:eek: Not that it's a bad thing. For me, I have heard distortion above 22, you can hear it, but very faintly you can hear the sub starting to strain

what can i sayi like it loud.

somtimes i want to go louder but i cant cuz of the speakers. :(

[505zoom]

what can i sayi like it loud.

somtimes i want to go louder but i cant cuz of the speakers.


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change surround to mbquart Qseries, JL 8w6 subs, change amp to old xtant 3300i series, new wires, dsp and dynomat and you can listen as loud as you want(headbang). Oh yeah don't forget some earplugs!(hear ya)

[unwrittenLaw]

So if you blow your sub, can you just take it in to the dealer and have them replace it under warranty, even if you were pushin the bass to high, etc...?

[Dexter]

Originally posted by unwrittenLaw
So if you blow your sub, can you just take it in to the dealer and have them replace it under warranty, even if you were pushin the bass to high, etc...?

i guess...they have no proof i was "pushin the bass too high" ... even though i wasnt...it shoudlnt blow at 28 volume...

[DaKidd]

well mine died today as well... called the dealer, they said i was the 3rd one in the last 30 days... he orderd 2 new ones for those guys 30 days ago and they still are not in... I sure as hell hope it doesn't take them no F'n 30 days to get mine in!!! Im droping my car off at the shop on friday to have them check it out and order me a new one, while its there they are going to look at the stumble and hesitation as well... hope it is very humid friday so that starts stumbling like hell!!! 30 days is BS, they could just run down to the local audio shop and toss some JL's or some Rock's if Kenwood's gonna take that long! ... yea right, keep dream'n!