MSP Oil filter recommendations?

[ping]

OK, silly topic, but I'm from the VW world where using a Fram filter was almost a sure bet that 1 in 5 would get you an oil buzzer (no valve in the Frams, and the VW's needed one). OEM filters (Mann, VW) were the ONLY things to use.

Any such wisdom for the Proteges? Or does the typical WalMart Fram do a fine job?

BTW, Fram makes a good filter, used them on another car that went 168k and NEVER burned oil, they just weren't good for VW's...

So... any recommendations? Or do I have to go back and waste more time getting to the end of that lo-ong thread in the "of topic" forum? (naughty)

[ARunto]

STP oil filters...I highly recommend it. It's a Bosch that's rebadged. Has no paper so it won't deterioate. Also has a spring valve built in to aid oil pressure.

-Alan

[AGR]

Frog Brothers

[ping]

Cool, thanks.

BTW, who else besides me would like to STRANGLE the engine designers who NEVER put the oil filter in a good place to replace? I go through some tin foil every time I change the oil - keeping drips off the engine/axles... but not off my arms...

-L

[ZoomZoomH]

Mazda OEM filters are quite well-built filters.

btw I STAY AWAY from Fram's, they are one of the worst constructed filter out there, as seen in this famous web page:

http://www.frankhunt.com/FRANK/corvette/articles/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html

[Vicocola]

how bout Amsoil?

[yashooa]

I run WIX filters and Mobil 1.

[blynzoo]

AGR, you are a man after my own heart (Frog filters). Hey, if you have any kids/cousins near my age...you old bastard!

AMSOIL
PureOne/Motorcraft

I stay away from STP not because the filters are bad but because I have to boycott them for putting out the gas additive (and me using it as a kid) until I found out I was actually just polluting my motor.

[ZoomZoomH]

so motorcraft is still a PureOne with different casing right?

good, because that's what I'm using on my RX-7 :)

[blynzoo]

Originally posted by ZoomZoomH
so motorcraft is still a PureOne with different casing right?

good, because that's what I'm using on my RX-7 :) correct! And about 30% cheaper...

[mazdadan]

Personally I just use Purolator filters and will spring for the PureOne if it is on sale. They seem to function just fine.

[ZoomZoomH]

try motorcraft, it's actually a couple dimes cheaper than a purolator premium plus :)

and it's got the PureOne filter element inside!

and no problem with oil pressure!

[blynzoo]

You're both right! :D I think they all do fine. Unfortunately -- as we have seen in the past -- filters from manufacturers do not stay the same forever. Look at Fram, their filters WERE fantastic. Now they have slipped in quality. And as smaller manufacturers (champion, etc) are bought out by larger folks (quaker state) or they choose to have their products made at the same crappy factory, once-good brand names now hide shitty filters.

[ping]

ugh and here I went and used a Fram Tough Guard. According to the study, just average. But with Mobil One, it should be fine. Car drove fine and oil looks great after what, about 25 miles...

Have to admit, I do like the easy grip outer, hope the inner does a good job!

[Street KingFD]

Mazda makes some of the BEST OEM filters. If it's a Mazda, use the OEM filter.

[sal002]

Fram Tough Guard is supposedly the only decent Fram out there....I use it on my wife's Escort (PureOne on my P5, although I am going to try a SuperTech (Wally World) filter for a 626 V6 next change.

Bonus on the Fram Tough Guard - easy to remove...nice "rough" coating on the end

[Apexi]

purolator pureone....or napa gold

[rowan]

OEM

[CRDMS1]

I'm using the OEM filter right now with regular oil, but I seem to remember reading that the Mobil 1 branded filter is very highly regarded. I plan to switch in a few thousand miles when I go synthetic.

Peace...(hippy)

[pingdum]

Originally posted by Street KingFD
Mazda makes some of the BEST OEM filters. If it's a Mazda, use the OEM filter.

I would, but all the dealers around here charge $8 for it so I use Bosch or PureOne, plus I hate going through this:

Me: Can I get a filter for a V6?
Dealer Parts Guy: What kind of car do you have?
Me: A Protegé 5.
DPG: That doesn't have a V6.
Me: I know.
DPG: You can't use that filter.
etc...etc

[sal002]

Where do you people get a Mobil1 filter? I did a search on their web-site and it said nothing for 50 miles and I live in a semi-major city (Minneapolis).

I've just settled on either a PureOne or Amsoil filter.

[TheMAN]

1) you're too honest, just tell him you have a 626 V6 and be over with it
2) the parts guy is a moron
3) go to another dealer


Originally posted by pingdum


I would, but all the dealers around here charge $8 for it so I use Bosch or PureOne, plus I hate going through this:

Me: Can I get a filter for a V6?
Dealer Parts Guy: What kind of car do you have?
Me: A Protegé 5.
DPG: That doesn't have a V6.
Me: I know.
DPG: You can't use that filter.
etc...etc

[sal002]

What about Amsoil's filter? I've seen the numerous debate on the oil...and that seems quite expensive. But the filter itself stacks up (price-wise) with the Mobil1 one (which doesn't seem to be sold in the Midwest anymore)....

[PochaccoMSP]

I saw an Autozone selling K&N oil filter when I stop by to get some glass cleaner last week. Has anyone try or heard anything about their oil filter on a MSP?

[servoeyes]

Welp...K&N makes good products, no doubt. I'm sure the filter's just fine, but not 15$ and special order fine. I've been looking to get one from advance auto parts, but you have to special order. And as for the price, K&N loves to gouge...just grab a purolater. One of the best paper filters you can get...that or a wix. If you've got the dough, try the K&N, but when an oil filter cost that much you best feel some sort of improvement, and I doubt you will...

[Fëakhelek]

A good oil filter should add at least 20 WHP. :D

[Fëakhelek]

A good oil filter should add at least 20 WHP. :D

[ping]

Hmmm - that's what, about 40WHP... :D

Oil looks great 2000 miles later with the Fram... willing however to try any good filter and will go OEM only if it's under $5.

Peace,

[RX-KEVIN]

MAZDA genuine oil filter cause you get a packing for the drain plug so no risk of cracking or stripping the pan and the gasket is made of a quality material less likely to have a double gasket mishap (common w/fram) I use amsol 5w30 for initial start up and the matching filter cause they recoment 12000 mile intervals with the two products together in a good running engine I still chage every 2-3 thousand miles

[RX-KEVIN]

I forgot to recomend RED LINE MT-90 trans fluid (a must for the racer)

[Vicocola]

i still dun see the difference between redline MTL / redline MT-90... anybody care to explain instead of they r bout the same....

[MSP Pro]

Redline MTL = Manual Transmission Light
It's a lighter weight oil to reduce hp losses, but I'd only use it in a racing machine.

Redline MT-90 = Manual Transmission 90 weight
This weight is what's spec'ed by Mazda for the tranny lube.

I used MT-90 in my 300zx twin turbo 5 speed; it worked well for 8 years. Really smoothed out the shifting. Of course, the dealer had put hypoid gear oil in the tranny to try to fix the gear grinding problem which only made it worse. Too slick for the synchros to work. NEVER trust a dealership to work on a high performance car. :cool:

[LinuxRacr]

I use Redline Super Light Shock-Proof Gear Oil in my transaxle. That stuff works soo good! It is in the gallon container, and looks like popcorn butter. NO grinding anymore!

[sal002]

You use a Synthetic and chnage oil every 2000 - 3000 miles? Even our car manuals say 5000.

[Cirielle]

Originally posted by pingdum


I would, but all the dealers around here charge $8 for it so I use Bosch or PureOne, plus I hate going through this:

Me: Can I get a filter for a V6?
Dealer Parts Guy: What kind of car do you have?
Me: A Protegé 5.
DPG: That doesn't have a V6.
Me: I know.
DPG: You can't use that filter.
etc...etc

I just got a ten pack of OEM's for $40. I know that you can get them individually as well. Let me find out where they got it from and I will let you know. Dang it can't find it right now......give me a day or two!

[Cirielle]

Originally posted by sal002
You use a Synthetic and chnage oil every 2000 - 3000 miles? Even our car manuals say 5000.

How often do you follow the manual???
If you drive your car and when I say drive I mean DRIVE it then you should definately do it every 3,000. Now if you are my grandma, then you would do it every 3 months because you would never get past 200 miles! and if you are like my mother in law you have a freakin light that tells you when to change (Beamer's and their dummy lights!).
More or less it is up to you when you want to do it. Personally I do it 3,000 miles, but hey if you want more dirt in your oil going through a turbo then sure 5,000 is fine!

[sal002]

3,000 is fine. 2,000 with synthetic? I think that is just some psychological disorder.

[AGR]

OEM Mazda Filter, with Mobil 1 (5w/30), and I change it every 5,000 miles. And; that is just perfect!

[LinuxRacr]

Damn, I need to get that damn Penzoil filter off they gave me at Jiffy Lube (while I was in San Antonio, and couldn't change my own oil)!

[sal002]

Where do you people buy the Red Line stuff? Online?

[PochaccoMSP]

i bought Red Line stuff from a Nissan dealer in Richardson by 75. I don't know if it's good price, but very convenient for me. They also carry Royal Purple stuff.

[sal002]

Anyone tried one of Walmarts SuperTech filters? The efficiency #'s on the side are impressive.

[Allen]

Can't find that thread, but I read through another post that Mazda changed their OEM oil filter for the Protege. I didn't think much about it until I changed my oil this weekend... the oil filter socket wrench that I have been using for the past couple changes is now too big for the oil filter... I knew I should have stocked up on the filters... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[Apexi]

Originally posted by sal002
Where do you people buy the Red Line stuff? Online?

you can buy it online but your local shops should have it...egardless of whether they specialize in imports..domestics..etc...

[MazdaProbeGT]

Originally posted by sal002
Anyone tried one of Walmarts SuperTech filters? The efficiency #'s on the side are impressive.

I'm pretty sure I'm using one of those right now.... it seems fine to me. I think everything except Fram is fine, ya know? I stay away from fram.

[sal002]

SuperTech is fine - however it only filters down to .20 microns (I think). Mobil1, K&N and the other premium (including Fram's X2) filter smaller particles.

That being said, look at the filter tests at http://bobistheoilguy.com. Some good info about flow (that I wouldn'tr even have thought of).

I use K&N now...