MSP Factory Service Manual Numbers

[MSP Pro]

Here's the official Mazda numbers for the Mazdaspeed Protege Factory manuals:

FACTORY SERVICE MANUAL: 9999-95-017B-03
WIRING DIAGRAMS: 9999-95-019G-03

No pricing yet, as Mazda Customer Service says that it is up to our dealer as to whether or not they will sell us these manuals. I called my dealer and no pricing was found in "the system". I'll let you know what I find out.

Oh, I was told these are the latest regular Protege manuals which include the Mazdaspeed.

[Dexter]

very, very cool. keep us updated i would love to have the wiring diagrams...or hell...both of em

[MSP Pro]

Here's the prices my local bandits, errr...dealer parts department, wants for the manuals:

Factory Service Manual: $$$137.00
Wiring Manual: $$$85.00

Anyone have better pricing?

[Dexter]

sounds about right. ive read people paying 150 for the service manual for the mp3

does anyone know how they are bound?

we have mega document scanners at work that automatically make PDF files.

[2K3 MSP]

I just emailed my friend who works in the parts dept. @ Mazda. I'll see what he can do...

[MSP Pro]

Oh yeah...one more thing. My dealer's parts department says the manuals are on back order. No idea when they become available.

How about the parts info? Is this available? On CD? microfiche? How much?

Thanks for the help, fellow Mazdaspeeders.

[Dexter]

boo

[ArkosP5]

Might check mazdastuff.com

[ZiO]

I have the old protege manual in PDF as well as this new one.

[Newf]

PDF???

Wiring diagrams?

I would kill for a proper wiring diagram for when I install the alarm.

[Captain KRM P5]

PDF???

PDF is the Adobe Acrobat file format

[MSP Pro]

ZiO said:
I have the old protege manual in PDF as well as this new one.

Which new one? 2003 Protege? with Mazdaspeed pages? Please check the manual numbers and compare them with the one's I posted in the first post. If you have the latest manual and wiring diagrams, you are gonna be one POPULAR Mazdaspeeder! :D

[Hachiman]

Here's a thought, although it may or may not work:

The manuals for an MR2 are really expensive as well, if you go through a dealer or otherwise "normal" channel.

However a few people, myself included, thought ahead: what if you skip the middle man?

We found out who the printing/supplying company to Toyota was, and contacted them directly. We were able to get the 3 manual series (Body, Engine & Electrical) for $120 total, including shipping.

If someone can find out who the printing company or supply company is for the Mazda manuals, we can call them and see what they charge. It might be worth the effort...

- John

[perfworks]

Originally posted by Hachiman
Here's a thought, although it may or may not work:

The manuals for an MR2 are really expensive as well, if you go through a dealer or otherwise "normal" channel.

However a few people, myself included, thought ahead: what if you skip the middle man?

We found out who the printing/supplying company to Toyota was, and contacted them directly. We were able to get the 3 manual series (Body, Engine & Electrical) for $120 total, including shipping.

If someone can find out who the printing company or supply company is for the Mazda manuals, we can call them and see what they charge. It might be worth the effort...

- John
good job hach!:D

[03MzdSpdSTP]

Originally posted by MSP Pro
ZiO said:


Which new one? 2003 Protege? with Mazdaspeed pages? Please check the manual numbers and compare them with the one's I posted in the first post. If you have the latest manual and wiring diagrams, you are gonna be one POPULAR Mazdaspeeder! :D


That would be pimp!(drinks)

[Mystic21]

Did this ever happen?

If so please let me know!

Here's a thought, although it may or may not work:

The manuals for an MR2 are really expensive as well, if you go through a dealer or otherwise "normal" channel.

However a few people, myself included, thought ahead: what if you skip the middle man?

We found out who the printing/supplying company to Toyota was, and contacted them directly. We were able to get the 3 manual series (Body, Engine & Electrical) for $120 total, including shipping.

If someone can find out who the printing company or supply company is for the Mazda manuals, we can call them and see what they charge. It might be worth the effort...

- John

[mspeed101]

You know how come the service manual didnt come with our car?

[DSM2MSP]

Or maybe you someone could scan the Service Manual and Wiring Diagram, and copy it to a CD and then sell it? I wont tell anyone.......

[Captain KRM P5]

You know how come the service manual didnt come with our car?
the service manual is typically meant to be read by service techs, not the average consumer. the owners manual is a different beast altogether, nowhere near as detailed.

[Emode]

someone should really try and set up a group buy for manuals
or someone who works at mazda could check a manual and see what the publishing company was

[Dr.Sound]

all i have is stuff like this for every production car made in 2001.

i'm only posting 2 out of 6 pages cause the rest wont fit.

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1 VEHICLE MAKE: Mazda <O:p></O:p>

2 MODEL: Prot‚g‚ <O:p></O:p>

3 YEAR: 2001 <O:p></O:p>

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COLOR LOCATION (+) / (-) OTHER DETAIL INFO - ALTERNATE WIRES - BRAKE LIGHT CIRCUIT GROUNDED? <O:p></O:p>

5 FACTORY KEYLESS SYSTEM under parcel shelf Keyless Control Module (KCM) <O:p></O:p>

6 FACTORY SECURITY SYSTEM <O:p></O:p>

7 E.C.M LOCATION under right dash Near heater blower motor <O:p></O:p>

8 P.C.M. LOCATION <O:p></O:p>

9 BCM LOCATION G.E.M. <O:p></O:p>

10 DOOR TRIGGER black/blue at switch or KCM - Pin C of 16 cavity connector <O:p></O:p>

a LF LATCH SWITCH black/blue at switch - All door switches are combined <O:p></O:p>

b RF LATCH SWITCH black/blue at switch - <O:p></O:p>

c LR LATCH SWITCH black/blue at switch - <O:p></O:p>

d RR LATCH SWITCH black/blue at switch - <O:p></O:p>

11 DOME LIGHT yellow/red instrument cluster - Pin 1H of 16 cavity connector <O:p></O:p>

12 TRUNK TRIGGER red/green at switch - 2 cavity connector (also at bulb socket) <O:p></O:p>

13 HOOD TRIGGER <O:p></O:p>

14 +12 V DC START OR CRANK black/blue ignition switch + Pin ST of ignition switch connector <O:p></O:p>

15 E.C.M. RESET <O:p></O:p>

16 +12 V DC ACCESSORY black/white ignition switch + Pin ACC of ignition switch connector <O:p></O:p>

[Dr.Sound]

17 +12 V DC IGN.1 blue ignition switch + Pin IG1 of ignition switch connector <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

18 +12 V DC IGN.2 black/red ignition switch + Pin IG2 of ignition switch connector <o:p></o:p>

19 +12 V DC IGN.3 <o:p></o:p>

20 +12 V DC BATTERY 1 black ignition switch + Also black/white at ignition switch <o:p></o:p>

21 +12 V DC DOME LIGHT FUSE fuse /relay panel 10 A room <o:p></o:p>

22 TRUNK RELEASE <o:p></o:p>

23 HIGH CURRENT PARKING LTS lt green/black fuse /relay panel + Pin H of 10 cavity connector <o:p></o:p>

24 LOW CURRENT PARKING LTS brown headlight switch - 17 cavity connector (grounds relay) <o:p></o:p>

a LF BULB lt green/black at bulb connector + All parking lights share circuit <o:p></o:p>

b RF BULB lt green/black at bulb connector + <o:p></o:p>

c LR BULB lt green/black at bulb connector + <o:p></o:p>

d RR BULB lt green/black at bulb connector + <o:p></o:p>

25 DOOR LOCK CIRCUIT TYPE "Single wire, dual resistance" <o:p></o:p>

26 DOOR LOCK lt green/red base of A pillar - Under left dash (4.7 Kohm resistor-to-ground) door lock switches and key cylinder switches contain resistor<o:p></o:p>

27 DOOR UNLOCK lt green/red base of A pillar - Under left dash (direct ground) "also at door lock control module, (under left dash) pin F"<o:p></o:p>

[Dr.Sound]

28 FACTORY SECURITY ARM
29 FACTORY SECURITY DISARM
30 CHILD SAFETY UNLOCK
31 DRIVER'S DOOR LOCK MOTOR red dr lock ctrl module - Pin D of 12 cavity connector (module reverses pol.)
32 DRIVER'S DOOR UNLOCK MTR blue dr lock ctrl module - Pin B of 12 cavity connector (module reverses pol.)
33 PASS DOOR LOCK MOTOR red dr lock ctrl module - Pin D of 12 cavity connector (module reverses pol.)
34 PASS DOOR UNLOCK MOTOR red/black dr lock ctrl module - Pin C of 12 cavity connector (module reverses pol)
35 2 STEP UNLK W/ FACT KEYLESS? Yes
36 TACH REFERENCE violet/white PCM Pin 48 of 104 cavity connector
a CRNKSHFT POSITION SENSOR yellow PCM Pin 21 of 104 cavity connector also Pin 22 (orange/black) of 104 cavity connector
b CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR blue PCM Pin 85 of 104 cavity connector
c FUEL INJECTOR red/yellow PCM - Pin 75 of 104 cavity connector(injector #1) "pin 101, red/white, #2 pin 74, black/yellow, #3 pin 100, green/black, #4"
37 BRAKE SWITCH green/yellow pedal bracket + Completes power supply positive voltage from battery-green
38 NEUTRAL SAFETY black/yellow trans range switch + 9 cavity connector manual transaxle vehicles use clutch position switch (same color wire)
39 REVERSE LIGHTS red/yellow inline conn near PCM + 34 pin connector just left of PCM same wire for manual or automatic trans
40 HORN SWITCH black/red base of steering clmn - 4 pin connector; supplies ground to horn relay
41 HAZARD LIGHT CIRCUIT TYPE "2 way, one input (front and rear common)"
a LEFT FRONT HAZARD green/black hazard switch + 10 cavity connector
b RIGHT FRONT HAZARD green/white hazard switch + 10 cavity connector
c LEFT REAR HAZARD green/black hazard switch + 10 cavity connector
d RIGHT REAR HAZARD green/white hazard switch + 10 cavity connector
42 HEADLIGHTS red/blue fuse /relay panel + Supplies voltage from headlight relay
43 HEADLIGHT SWITCH red/yellow headlight switch - 18 cavity connector (grounds headlight relay)
44 HIGH BEAM SENSE red/green headlight switch - 18 cavity connector
45 WIPER SENSE blue/white wiper switch + 14 cavity connector
46 PWR WINDOW CIRCUIT TYPE "Reverse polarity, rest at ground"
47a DRIVER'S WINDOW UP red/black mstr window switch + 10 cavity connector
47b DRIVER'S WINDOW DOWN yellow/green mstr window switch + 10 cavity connector
48a R.F. WINDOW UP green/white mstr window switch + 10 cavity connector
48b R.F. WINDOW DOWN lt green/black mstr window switch + 10 cavity connector
49a L.R. WINDOW UP red/green mstr window switch + 10 cavity connector
49b L.R. WINDOW DOWN yellow/red mstr window switch + 10 cavity connector
50a RR WINDOW UP blue/white mstr window switch + 10 cavity connector
50b RR WINDOW DOWN green/red mstr window switch + 10 cavity connector
51 SUNROOF CIRCUIT TYPE 3-wire negative
52 POWER SUNROOF OPEN blue sunroof switch - Grounds relay
53 POWER SUNROOF CLOSED blue/white sunroof switch - Grounds relay
54 VSS SPEED SENSOR orange PCM Pin 58 of 104 cavity connector
55 POWER WINDOW GEAR I.D.

[Dexter]

thats cool but what the hell does 10 cavity connector mean

like i know what it means, but how do you know where to locate it?

[jerry.stoangi]

I ordered both from Dave Wood Mazda (Newmarket Ontario Canada Dealer) received the Wiring Diagram Manual, Workshop Manual is on back order. The part numbers are as you have indicated. Cost $112 cdn for workshop manual, $75 cdn for Wiring Diagrams.

[Mystic21]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7903555775&category=34226

hmmmm????

[paulstrovsky]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7903555775&category=34226

hmmmm????
That one doesn't include the MSP, unfortunately. I know this for a fact since I took the chance and bought it.

BUT, I just went to my local Mazda dealership for some parts for my Miata and asked about the manual expecting it to still be "on backorder", but it wasn't! Maybe it's just a fluke, but I put an order in for it and hopefully it will be here within a few weeks.

So run, run to your local dealers and order the great book!

-Paul

[Stormtrooper77]

The comment about the manual being put on PDF/CD or whatever and then selling it...Well, there was a guy on another forum for my old car who took the time to put onto CD in PDF format the entire service manual. He sold the disc for $10 and went on a "trust" policy that he would stop making them if he finds out that they were being distibuted by someone either than himself. I think he did very well. Just a thought if anyone wants to make a couple of bucks.

[1FASTMSP]

I HAVE THE SERVICE MANUAL. if anyone needs anything i can scan it for them. (i paid much less, through a friend at mazda)
its in a binder (which was sold seperate) and it at least 7 inches thick and heavy as hell. covers protege, protege5 and mazdaspeed models.
this thing has been great!

-christycould you please scan the ecu pin diagram with the translation of what each pin is to for the MSP, i would greatly appreciate if you would send it to me...

email is: erickgunter@netzero.com
thanks

[tekkie]

pretty sure they are the same as the regular protege

http://users.wpi.edu/~jck15243/msppinout1.htm

http://users.wpi.edu/~jck15243/msppinout2.htm

[1FASTMSP]

thank you, i appreciate it...

[03ES]

I know this thread has not been updated in a while but I'm curious if contacting the printer/publisher for a discount price worked? If someone who has bought the manuals could list the name of the publisher and contact information, I'm sure something could be arranged for a group buy.
Thanks,
Chris