Did anybody pay MSRP for the 03 or 03.5

[MSP_SRT4_RSX-S]

Hello, I am debating a MSP and a SVT Focus. Right now i am leaning towards the focus for the fact that I can get the SVT for no market adjustment. The MSP is a great car, more handsome than the SVT and just a little more well rounded. If you guys can help me out by letting me know who has paid MSRP for the MSP that would be great. Than i can prove to the dealer that it really does happen, get him to lower the price so I can get one damn it. If not i will be forced to get the SVt. Please help me out. I would definetly rather have the MSP but I cant afford the 23,000 MSRP. Thanks in advance.

[BlackMSP]

I paid msrp and so did almost everyone here. Some people paid under MSRP!

[so-cal msp]

I paid 19300 for my msp

[loj68]

yeah, I paid $19,500.....I would NEVER pay over MSRP for ANYTHING.....EVER!!!! BUT.....I'd rather walk than drive a domestic POS.......a Ford???? eeeeeewwwww....come on.....have you ever driven in one of those???? Simply awful....I'm convinced the good press those cars get is some conspiracy where Ford pays off the media. Spend $7500 on a new Yamaha R6 and save some cash....then you'll dust about 99% of the cars on the planet :)

[Cirielle]

I paid 20,000 for it. That is with an extended warranty, tax, title, tags etc. Pretty much I walked out the door with paying 20g's. I would suggest that you try something like Priceline.com to get a better deal (my deal was nice due to S-plan savings!)
My husband got his Spec V for Invoice using Priceline. Just shop around because the sales guy who is trying to get you to pay 23g's is BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[funnylittlman]

I paid 20 for it as well

[solak321]

Originally posted by loj68
yeah, I paid $19,500.....I would NEVER pay over MSRP for ANYTHING.....EVER!!!! BUT.....I'd rather walk than drive a domestic POS.......a Ford???? eeeeeewwwww....come on.....have you ever driven in one of those???? Simply awful....I'm convinced the good press those cars get is some conspiracy where Ford pays off the media. Spend $7500 on a new Yamaha R6 and save some cash....then you'll dust about 99% of the cars on the planet :)


Doesn't ford own a lot of Mazda? and Isn't the engine in the mazda 6 a ford v6? I think ford has started making better cars lately.

[BacDoc]

Can you get the MSP on the S-Plan? Anyone do this? When I tried gettting a MP3 last year on the S-Plan they told me limited number cars couldn't be sold that way. Those dirty som' bitaches! And by the way Ford owns Mazda.

[ATLskate]

Mazda is under ford MANAGMENT. Though a few Mazda cars are made by Ford such as the B Series trucks, and i think the 6 is made by Ford. Basicaly, if it isn't on sale in Japan, then Ford makes it(notcool).

[Cirielle]

Originally posted by ToBeBackDoc
Can you get the MSP on the S-Plan? Anyone do this? When I tried gettting a MP3 last year on the S-Plan they told me limited number cars couldn't be sold that way. Those dirty som' bitaches! And by the way Ford owns Mazda.

I did it. I called to make sure that I could and they had no problem with it. They took my Ford Recognition Number and they took my SS#, no problems, no haggling, it went off without a hitch! Well except the fact that they ignored me (and I was the one who was the one with the discount and all) and only paid attention to my husband! Damn redneck VA's. Only think that men enjoy cars!!! Idiots!
But to answer your question - yes it does work!!!!!!!!!!!!

[yashooa]

Originally posted by MSP_SRT4_RSX-S
Hello, I am debating a MSP and a SVT Focus. Right now i am leaning towards the focus for the fact that I can get the SVT for no market adjustment. The MSP is a great car, more handsome than the SVT and just a little more well rounded. If you guys can help me out by letting me know who has paid MSRP for the MSP that would be great. Than i can prove to the dealer that it really does happen, get him to lower the price so I can get one damn it. If not i will be forced to get the SVt. Please help me out. I would definetly rather have the MSP but I cant afford the 23,000 MSRP. Thanks in advance.

Dont pay that!
Get that beotch for under 20k!
Call Mazda freinds. 1-800-222-5500.
Call and tell them the score and what it is you want.
They will help you and they will send a survey afterwards so you can rate the quality of the assistance you received.
Dont pay to much ask Mazda and they will help you.
If this isnt the direct number make sure and tell them what you need. Mazda only has 2% of the world market and they want to double that. They will do all they can to get a fair current market price and try to leverage the 2003 against the 2003.5 if you can.
Be nice to the dealer but dont trake any shit its your money and they need your business.
Bear in mind I could have saved just over 6k going with an SVT focus but I bought the MSP anyway. I have the Ford Partner discount of about 2600.00 off MSRP and it was coming with 3000.00 cash back so that should tell you the differnce I felt between the two.
Good luck and happy hunting.

Peace out Holmes...

[Newf]

Ford does not own Mazda. Just over %30 of Mazda is owned by Ford. That's not a controlling share.

MPV, B SERIES TRUCKS, TRIBUTE ALL FORD

MAzda cars...for now...still Mazda, except the 6 V6 where the engine block is a Ford, the rest is MAzda. And I think Ford actually builds the 6 V6 engine for MAzda but I'm not sure on that.

How does one become eligible for this SS plan?

[yashooa]

Originally posted by newf
Ford does not own Mazda. Just over %30 of Mazda is owned by Ford. That's not a controlling share.

MPV, B SERIES TRUCKS, TRIBUTE ALL FORD

MAzda cars...for now...still Mazda, except the 6 V6 where the engine block is a Ford, the rest is MAzda. And I think Ford actually builds the 6 V6 engine for MAzda but I'm not sure on that.

How does one become eligible for this SS plan?

Ok Ford does offer partner discounts to those who work for Ford/Mazda/Range Rover/Aston Martin etc. They also offer them to some of their third party people; Which my company happens to be. www.fordpartner.com They give you a pin and you'll need your company's code if they are a partner that is.

I didn't mean to imply Ford owns them just gives them the Good American Love(k) (k) (k) (spank) (upbum) (bj)

[BacDoc]

I have a friend who works in Dearborn for Ford and he said he could help me out on my P5 or MP3 that I wanted at the time. I gave him my Soc # and he gave me a pin #. I walked in told them I had a pin # and I wanted to know the price of the MP3. Mazda dealer says we can't do that with the MP3's because of limited #'s. So I said OK and walked out. Few days later I tracked down my P5 5 states away (but close to my dad) and called the guy. Gave me the bottom line price at 2% over invoice and my dad drove 2 hours and picked it up. So nice to not have to haggle and go back and forth with the dealer.

[JasonH]

Originally posted by newf
Ford does not own Mazda. Just over %30 of Mazda is owned by Ford. That's not a controlling share.
In Japan, 33% is a controlling interest. Ford owns 33% of Mazda. (http://www.ma.org/History/WhoOwnsWhat/pages/laura_arriaza/mergers.html)

More importantly, Nissan is 37% owned by Renault who is 44% owned by the French government. Boycott Nissan!

[loj68]

yes I know that Ford is in bed with Mazda......that's the reason we didn't buy the new 6 like I wanted is because of that Ford engine......I keep hearing this thing about American cars getting better and all I can say is......go rent one for a day.....it's :bs:

[Newf]

loj68

I agree COMPLETELY!

[Caffeine]

Ill be paying msrp for mine when I get it. "Any day now"

[kwiktsi]

I paid $20,150 + tax and such.. That was the best the dealer was willing to do, at least it is a couple $$$ below invoice :)..

As for Ford/Mazda- pull your ECU out of your car and tell me how much "Ford" it is....
Joe

[loj68]

As for Ford/Mazda- pull your ECU out of your car and tell me how much "Ford" it is....


"please don't say ford....please don't say ford....please don't say ford" :'(

[kwiktsi]

hahahahaha....

[Newf]

everyone here knows the ecu is ford. Are you going to try to tell us that the Protege's are made/built by Ford.... Um no.

built in Japan they is.

[BremertonMSP]

I paid $20,500. they wouldn't budge, and I wanted one. I paid to play, no big :)

[DJSCIASCIA]

I have 2 left on my lot (in black) that I need to get rid of!!! No one is paying sticker for it at this point....anyone know of someone that wants a good deal, lemme know. I need to blow these out before the 2003.5s come in.

[Limited Edition]

i paid MSRP in Canada.
they won't budge at all either.
Sucks when you want a limited production car.

[YuYuRena]

Hey guys. This is my first post. been reading this forum for a while now and finally got the guts to post. I learned alot about the "quirks" of MSP, but I think it's cool car nonetheless.

Anyway about American cars and stuff. From sounds of what everyone posted about how bad american cars are. I wouldn't be getting any Mitsubishi soon either, because I read a while back that Mitsubishi is in this alliance with Chrysler that they're gonna build cars together. And Saab(GM) is building the new 9-2 with Fuji Heavy Industry (Subaru). so let's face it, with the big three basically owning all the major car brands except Toyota and Honda (hopefully this is true). One way or another the car you drive is in connection with an American car company like Ford.

[Newf]

Don't count Toyota and Honda out either.

Toyota: can u say Vibe? how about MAtrix? Same car.

Honda: Well, guess who's bought some shares lately...um Ford. Guess what....Chevy and Honda have a deal where Honda makes some 4 cyls for Chevy/GM, and GM will make v-8's for Honda.

What is the world coming to?

btw, welcome aboard, and by all means, don't be afraid to post.

....what's the worse that could happen :)

[YuYuRena]

HAHA yea who could forget about the vibe umm... i mean the matrix wait they're the same car. Thanx for pointing it out. And yea i have stage fright u know, it's a big forum here :eek:

[lyserjic]

I negotiated a price of $18,946 (USD) on a 2003 tangerine dream. It was dealer stickered at something like $22,900. NOT!

That's $18426 + $520 destination charge. Took me about 2 hours to negotiate it, had 2 salesmen and the sales manager whining about how they were losing money and the owner of the dealership was going to have their heads if they sold the car at that price, yadda yadda yadda...After my state taxes and tags, my final out the door bill was $20,334. I would have liked to have been in at $18,600 on the neotiated price, however for such a neat car, I was not going to quibble over $350.

Two years ago I was able to negotiate a $22,700 deal on a $26,000 Explorer for my wife. I like to beat car salesmen down to the point where they sell me the car at my asking price to simply get rid of me. They'll make their money on the next guy. Had the saleslady crying when we finally closed the deal on that Explorer.

Do I feel bad? No, they'll rip you off with a smile on their face. Play the game back. Car salesmen are never very friendly to me after a sale. Wonder why? :>

If you know the *true* dealer cost, you can usually get 2-4% over that number. I've been told that *true dealer cost* is usually about 83% of the factory MSRP shown. (That number may vary depending on the car, lower priced vehicles tend to have narrow margins). Any dealer markup beyond factory MSRP that is ripping you off. (MSRP is ripping you off too, remember that).

I also strongly recommend anyone considering purchasing any new car check out the following websites:

http://www.carbuyingtips.com

http://www.fightingchance.com

Don't go shopping without at least reading carbuyingtips.com

A female friend of mine once said, "I'd rather marry a garbage man than a car salesman".

I enjoy the thrill of haggling price, and I really didn't need a new car, my old one is still chugging along, so I had the luxury of time. I simply found it a neat little car that handled well.

As I'm finding, there's a lot of resources and good information from other MSP owners. I'll probably make this site a regular stop.

The kids *love* the car. My 14 year old son now wants me to drive him everywhere, suddenly it's cool to be seen with pops I guess. My 17 year old daughter just keeps shaking her head and saying, "I can't believe you bought a bright orange car".


To anyone reading who is contemplating the purchase of a MSP, do it! It's a fun little machine.

-lyserjic

BTW, I've started a channel on the EFnet Irc network, #mazdaspeed. I need a few folks who might want to op.

If you don't know what IRC is, go here:

http://www.irchelp.org/

(And no, you CANNOT take legal action against me if you become addicted to IRC..) :>

[YuYuRena]

Which dealer in Houston did you buy it off lyserjic??? I'm thinking about buying a MSP, but I'm not back from school yet. So I'm just doing the scouting right now: reading what ppl paid for their cars and problems they had with dealers and stuff. Maybe u can even tell me the salesperson, I'll try it on him too. (wink)

[loj68]

yeah man, my friend works at the GM plant in Kettering OH and they make suspension parts for GM and Toyotas !!!!