View Full Version : Are you mad that an SRT-4 (or mp3 turbo) can beat our MSP?
BlackMSP
03-18-2003, 05:16 PM
Well SRT-4's are good machines no doubt, but im tired of everyone running around thinking they are like the "best" or somthing. For as much money as it would cost to mod our MSP's to be as fast as a SRT-4 we could buy a hatch with a swap that would blow the SRT-4 out of the water! Another option is a 2nd Gen AWD DSM... Thats exactly what im doing lol. I would not trade the looks, and handling of my MSP for the speed of an SRT-4 so I decided to just put a few more "performance" mods on my MSP, and spend most of the money in looks. I am sure its the opposite with SRT-4 owners lol. I am also going to start a civic hatch up soon just so I can beat the SRT-4's who think they are hot shit running around at low 14 second 1/4 miles. You can spend about $5k on a hatch (crx, or newer) with a swap (all motor) that not only runs 13 second 1/4 miles but also looks a hell of alot better than an SRT-4 lol! So if your a little mad becuase the SRT-4's faster just save up some money and go buy junkyard hatchback shell swap in a motor put some more "stuff" into it and go have fun at the track! haha I cant wait :D
(chair) I don't drag race or street race, so I could care less how much quicker the above mentioned is. There are many, many, many reasons I chose my MAZDASPEED over anything else. On looks alone, that's a good enough reason; in my opinion. (btw: I like the MP3 just fine)
dj5tyle5
03-18-2003, 05:49 PM
Street Racing is actually pretty stupid(even thoupgh i have participated in it before) That's why I am at the point where I don't care how fast that kia or honda is....i
sundevilMP5
03-18-2003, 06:00 PM
agreed...who cares anymore...let people think what they want to think...street racing = tickets and hurt
SpicyMSP
03-18-2003, 06:07 PM
Greg are you OK?
Do you need a massage or something?
come on champ.... let it go
BlackMSP
03-18-2003, 06:08 PM
im not talking about street racing lol... When did I say that? I was just talking about the track 1/4 mile.... I even said that where did u get street racing from? heh
Originally posted by SpicyMSP
Greg are you OK?
Do you need a massage or something?
come on champ.... let it go
I'm fine! (chair) Ouch! (chair) Ouch!
..did I start this thread?
Oh,,,,1/4 mile,,,,,,,,ho hum....... (still a notch above nascar)
BlackMSP
03-18-2003, 06:12 PM
heh cmon admit it you are a LITTLE jelous of an SRT-4
Originally posted by BlackMSP
heh cmon admit it you are a LITTLE jelous of an SRT-4
YOU MUST BE FUCKING JOKING!!!!!
Draghkar
03-18-2003, 06:25 PM
I was just reading the Car and Driver review of the SRT-4, and it sounds like it is a great performance car, but not a great day-to-day driving car (they stated something like that in the review). Prior to getting my MSP, I drove a Camaro Z28. It had lots of power and was lots of fun when you were able to actually use that power. However in spite of the lack of gut-wrenching torque, I find the MSP a much nicer car to drive. It is quick enough to give you some hustle when you need it, and the handling is superb. There are also some smaller details that I like such as the shifting (clunky in the Camaro and apparently not much fun in the SRT-4) and the stereo system. I chose the MSP for its blend of decent performance and practicality. The SRT-4 sounds like a really fun car and I'm not going to bash it, as I'm sure there are many people who would prefer the bias towards performance like I did when I bought my Camaro. However the common theme in this thread, and from professional reviewers, seems to be that the MSP is just a great all-round car, and thats probably what most of us were looking for.
Grimace
03-18-2003, 06:32 PM
Are you mad that an SRT-4 (or mp3 turbo) can beat our MSP?
Yeah, I'm mad as hell. :rolleyes:
There are dozens of other vehicles faster than our MSP. Just enjoy what you have, don't get in a "my dick is bigger than yours" mentality.
again, there's a SRT4 thread in the OFF TOPIC section.
Moderator PLEASE!
Matter of fact I'll join in this discussion, but I'm asnwering over in the OFF TOPIC section.
Funny, I can get Mazda to actually look into making a fix for the clunk, but I can't get a few Mazdaspeed owners to move this srt4 nonsense over to the off topic section....arg.
Caffeine
03-18-2003, 06:37 PM
maybe if you want to drive an SRT go ahead, i think they look like a piece of shit.
AFaceInTheCrowd
03-18-2003, 06:40 PM
I'M A FREAKIN 18 YEAR OLD AND I WANNA STREET DRAG EVERYONE!!!!! AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
na, i'm just playin, i think street racing is stupid (although i have been known to watch). i don't do it anymore since i almost killed myself when i spun out and ended up 2 ft from the retaining wall... that was a big wakeup call. so i just watch. i know its illegal, but i've cut down a lot and now i'm getting into rally and road races. so are a bunch of the other ppl at my school. they are choosing subis (WRX and STi) over civics and drag cars. sure you can make a civic go fast, but can it take the greuling (sp?) lenghts and the elements?
Slipstream
03-18-2003, 08:44 PM
Like has been said before, the SRT-4, while an AMAZING straightline racer and not-too-shabby handler, isn't the best car for daily driving. Owners have commented on the car's rather loud exhaust (no stock mufflers), restrictive seats for bigger people (I have broad shoulders), and excessively tight suspension (to the point of discomfort for some folks). ...Not to mention its cheap looking sheet metal and very boy-racer looks.
I see the SRT-4 as being the balls-to-the-wall, race-track machine, where the MSP is the more refined, well-rounded, aggressive daily driver.
igdrasil
03-18-2003, 08:59 PM
Stop it, of course, car looks ugly...but its ok, will only lay on reliability over time.
All reviews put the mazdaspeed following the srt, and surprise...the Civic Si as the worst car.
But, the new Type R is comming later this year with aprox 192HP.
Ive posted a video of one street racing a WRX and a Talon, both asshandled.
twiztedjeckel
03-18-2003, 08:59 PM
yet another fucking thread on the dodge shitbox with crank rear windows. somebody put an end to this shit would you please:mad:
SpicyMSP
03-18-2003, 09:00 PM
IBL?
twiztedjeckel
03-18-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by SpicyMSP
IBL?
std?
BlackMSP
03-18-2003, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by AFaceInTheCrowd
I'M A FREAKIN 18 YEAR OLD AND I WANNA STREET DRAG EVERYONE!!!!! AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
omg me 2!!
LADY MSPD
03-18-2003, 09:43 PM
i really dont care cause if the srt4 came 6psi stock out the lot like other forced induction cars it would ony do 15's,i bet if we crank our boost to 14psi we would be as fast as them, anyways i love my msp and it doesnt look cheap plus my boyfriends got my back...hehehehe!!!!!!! i love mazdas!!!!!!!! ill pick any mazda over a dodge!!!!!!!!!
yashooa
03-18-2003, 10:00 PM
I got a 390 Pacer with nitrous, a Paxton, and a Ford 9 inch read end ready to take your testes away ShitRT-4!!!!
And then Ill whip out the heavy iron. The big-block Gremlin oh yeah...
Talk about ugly and fast well buddy this fucking car would make even a Neon look good.
Dexter
03-18-2003, 11:39 PM
why not just post all this crap in one SRT4 thread? its the same stuff over and over now....
igdrasil
03-18-2003, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by Dexter
why not just post all this crap in one SRT4 thread? its the same stuff over and over now....
shit happens
If I were admin, I wouldmove this to flamewars....
Equinox
03-18-2003, 11:49 PM
in all honesty I'm just a japanese car nazi, I can barely admit the new tiburons are sweet because it's korean, although they are. I also would never want to own a dodge because my aftermarket parts would come from mopar. I coudl never be proud of mopar, just the image is has, I'm sorry, heh. If I owned a viper, I would probably stick to hennessey and never get near the mopar image, not to mention, really dodge as a quality production company doesn't do too well, even the viper has horribly uncomfortable seats, and the interior sucks and falls apart. Also according to my friend the exhaust burns you all the time, but that's just cause he isn't used to side pipes, haha.
buster
03-19-2003, 12:00 AM
Why put power windows on the back when they only roll 1/2 way down? Anyway..I was just told by a friend to check out a SRT4 thread on a Bimmer forum. The guy raced a SRT4 with a M3, SRT4 had the early advantage but after 3rd gear it was all M3. But the funny thing is, he gave ton's of respect to the great handling and awesome power of the SRT4, funny how the guys driving M3's can be nice and respectful but most of the guys on this board have a hate-on.:wtf:
slug420
03-19-2003, 01:40 AM
we need a srt4 forum. mods? anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?
BlackMSP
03-19-2003, 05:29 AM
i agree srt-4 forum lets get dem over here so we can be friends lol
Red99Xtreme
03-19-2003, 05:47 AM
i bet if we crank our boost to 14psi we would be as fast as them, anyways i love my msp and it doesnt look cheap plus my boyfriends got my back...hehehehe!!!!!!! i love mazdas!!!!!!!! ill pick any mazda over a dodge!!!!!!!!!
If you Crank your boost to 14psi, I hope your Boyfriend Does "Got yo Back" Cause you will be needing him to Drive you to and from work as your Motor will be a Molten Pile of Metal Shavings.
if the srt4 came 6psi stock out the lot like other forced induction cars
I dont know of which FI cars you speak of but most come with more than a measly 6psi.......Ala Diamond Stars/WRX/Colts/Omni's with 10psi.....Course there compression Ratio is actually more set up for a boost application.
Fact is the Neon is pushing more boost.....
So what, You are happy right?????
Thats all that matters......Can we PLEASE stop this???
Cheers,
Mike
'88 CRX "Track Car"
'99 S-10 Xtreme
YellowBaggedP5
03-19-2003, 12:52 PM
"Got yo back", im lmao
Originally posted by slug420
we need a srt4 forum. mods? anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller?
That would be intereseting. But not really needed, an SRT/4 forum is already in the works.
But lets keep something in mind.
Why do people hate honda owners, simply they pretend there cars are the best, I feel that this mentality is foolish and we are above that. Be VW, Mazda, Mits, Dodge, Nissan, Acura, honda it doesn't matter most people are here becuase they love there car and want to make it even better. Discusion is always good but in a mature manner is best.
Also keep in mind that the Protege is not build for Turbos. it can't take much. this engine will not sustain the dodges power, EVER! Its not designed to, then next generation 3 will probably be.
If you have a protege and need more power then the Doge to be happy get a new car. This car will need an insane number of upgrades including engine internals and transmission to take it. If you are happy withthe perfomance then don't worry about what dodge offers or any one else. you have a dman nice ride, Enjoy it :D.
twiztedjeckel
03-19-2003, 01:32 PM
my daddy will beat up your daddy
Wrong Fight, I think this is more akin with my penis is big then yours.
anyone who buys a car based solely on its performance is a complete idiot and should have their license (and msp) taken away.
Captain KRM P5
03-19-2003, 02:42 PM
everyone knows that SRTs are better because thier ricer wing (spoiler) is bigger than the MSP's ricer wing, so there. :P
buster
03-19-2003, 04:10 PM
(doh) (lol)
I wanna play,,,,,I wanna play!!!
Actually; I always considered those silly 'park bench' air foil things 'ricer', not our wings, or even the SRT-4's. But I could be mistaken. Most of this 'ricer' terminology eludes me, since I am 48.
(chair) (chair) (chair)
(rofl) (rofl) (rofl)
buster
03-19-2003, 04:36 PM
Yeah, I have noticed the trend of roof height spoiler lately....VERY bad.:confused:
Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
So your an OG Ricer?
:D
OG? And; I sure as hell don't consider myself a ricer. Anyway.... know this; if you are having 1/2 of the fun when your 48, that I'm having at '48', you would be doing very well my friend.
My Motto: I Grin: Therefore, I Is
twiztedjeckel
03-19-2003, 06:16 PM
AGR-your the biggest ricer on this board. look at you, an aged gentlemen with a somewhat sporty car suited for youngsters. i bet your down with OPP aren't you:p ;) :D
Originally posted by twiztedjeckel
AGR-your the biggest ricer on this board. look at you, an aged gentlemen with a somewhat sporty car suited for youngsters. i bet your down with OPP aren't you:p ;) :D
I've fallen, and I can't get my happy ass up!! (rofl) (chair)
What's OPP? (I need help here with these abbreviations....)
yashooa
03-19-2003, 06:29 PM
After gazing into that magic distillery he has in his garage...AGR seems to more interested in "malt" or sour mash than rice :)
Heck 48 aint that old...I'm 32...so 48 is just a waving at me in the distance.
The one thing I hate about being over 30 is that you can actually see 50...at 20 yrs old 50 dosent exist.
50? Shit what's 50? Thats just that damn fairy tale boogyman talk.
Now its all 401k's, house payments, 3 kids, 15, 9 and 2, and a damn fine looking wife
(boobs)
Glad she cant see this forum. I would pay for the boobs thing.:D
It's a brewery. And, I am the 'kid' in my house. My 26 year old son just bought his own home. And, my wife; yes; she is incredible.
Yes! Life is good at 48!
OG- orignal Gangster, idiot LA rapper used this to describe the people tha started the gangs but later came to mean the origniator or the original. Thus OG is ebonics for the originator
OPP is other people pussy. Nuaghty by Nature rapped on that one. Basicly mean your into hitting on women or more to it meaning have sex with women you know to have a boy friend.
OPP - is ebonics for not giving a damn about monogamy.
redrims
03-19-2003, 06:46 PM
Why are we even starting a feud between the MSP and SRT-4? Its stupid!
Some ppl like the SRT-4 for there reasons (me), some people like the MSP for other reasons. Some like speed and power, some like looks and handling.
If your happy with your car, BE HAPPY. There is no need to bring down another car because it does ONE thing better than yours.
I like them both.
twiztedjeckel
03-19-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
OPP is other people pussy. Nuaghty by Nature rapped on that one. Basicly mean your into hitting on women or more to it meaning have sex with women you know to have a boy friend.
OPP - is ebonics for not giving a damn about monogamy.
yeah word ta ya motha jigga. peace out my beotches. you to AGR:cool:
dang!:confused: :confused: :confused:
Captain KRM P5
03-20-2003, 01:26 AM
AGR in the hizaus, tricked out MSP on the DL bringin' it to all yo boyz in the hood, packin' chrome heataz straight up east side to west side.
SRT and MSP haters be straight trippin' on some ill chronic. That's a mighty fine gin and tonic, better fix me up anotha', brotha'...
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