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redmption
03-15-2003, 04:11 PM
Anybody swap out the potenza's that are on the car right now? I really dislike them, wet traction sucks. Im putting on Yokohama's today. $116.00 per tire, I hope they are worth it

AFaceInTheCrowd
03-15-2003, 04:16 PM
falken azenis

Dexter
03-15-2003, 04:17 PM
the potenzas are REALLY FUCKING GAY.

Limited Edition
03-15-2003, 04:19 PM
which yokohama's are you going with ?
those potenza's aren't cheap....
so, i hoe you either sold them at a good price or finished them while doing some spirited driving.

Dexter
03-15-2003, 04:22 PM
fuck spirited driving, they suck it up the ass

AFaceInTheCrowd
03-15-2003, 04:28 PM
damn dex, chill

Dexter
03-15-2003, 04:30 PM
sorry, i got fucked by having the potenzas on. i hit black ice or something. :mad:

redmption
03-15-2003, 04:34 PM
They are the the AVS ES100
http://www.discounttire.com/dtc/findTireDetail.do?step=details&index=3&productCodeIndex=43213&path=tire

Newf
03-15-2003, 04:41 PM
here's a little tip. Anything with Bridgestone on it....is crap for everyday driving. I was really dissapointed when MAzda went from the dunlops to the bridgestones.

Dexter
03-15-2003, 04:43 PM
yes, you cant do anything with the bridgestones unless its on a track and its 95 degress out and the pavement is hot as hell. rest of the time...SUCK :( :( :( :(

scapamouche
03-15-2003, 06:54 PM
The only drawbacks to Azenis are the tire noise (if you care) and wet driving. They are GREAT in the dry and with wet ground, but have serious hydroplaning issues when in puddles or worn.

That said, I have a set of 225/45-17 Azenis going on MY car this Tuesday :D

Albert
03-15-2003, 07:24 PM
the potenzas are REALLY FUCKING GAY

What, they like other tires of the same sex?

derrick1623
03-15-2003, 07:28 PM
this is rediculous!!!(admin)!

BlackMSP
03-15-2003, 07:41 PM
haha just wear them out first... then change

DistantTea
03-15-2003, 09:19 PM
Whoa! Bridgestones suck? Anyone ever drive on a Potenza S03 or drive an S2000 running S02s? Ever see the RE070 in action? All tire companies have crap tires. Bridgestone makes some of the best tires in the world for the auto enthusiast... it all depends on what you need out of your tire.

I personally don't like the RE040s... and have a problem in general with summer only tires that don't perform to certain standards. But I'd trade them in a minute for a set of S03s. Those tires are absolutely awesome wet or dry.

MSP Pro
03-16-2003, 12:15 AM
Redmption: So, what do you want for that used set of Bridgestone RE040s? How many miles are on them? I'm interested in them. Anyone know what shipping UPS ground is on tires?

Or did you just give them to the tire shop?

redmption
03-16-2003, 01:23 AM
They gave me $100 for the old tires. The new ones are dope too, they are good on the wet road, its raining right now, I cant wait to dry them on dry land.

yashooa
03-16-2003, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by Dexter
sorry, i got fucked by having the potenzas on. i hit black ice or something. :mad:

Well the one freak ice storm / snow storm we have a year down here proved that they suck on the hard water.
However, I love these tires in the dry and with all the wet weather lately I havent had any episode that would make me lose confidence in them. I do argree if I lived up North I would most definitely have snow tires/ rims all winter.

So they do well in their intended role. That very narrow role sport tires occupy no M+S on them.

yashooa
03-16-2003, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by Albert


What, they like other tires of the same sex?

Wow Alby thats funny....
Damn dude is that your picture? You look like a wrestler.

(rofl)

turboge
03-16-2003, 01:32 AM
I was very impressed with the stock tires at the track. They gripped pretty well and didn't make too much noise. I'm even impressed by the way they handle on freeway onramps and other little city turns.

Only thing i'd put on are Falken Azenis.

scapamouche
03-16-2003, 05:34 AM
My second choice after the Falkens would be S-03s. I used a set of S-03s as my daily drivers on my Celica and Falkens as autox tires, but there were some sites where I would use the S-03s.

The S-03s seemed to have better grip on poors surfaces. One of our autox sites is 30-40 year old asphalt, and it breaks up pretty bad. The Falkens would skate over the surface, while the S-03s would dig in and grab.

The Falkens were better for smooth or concrete surfaces.

The S-03s are better in the wet, and much quieter than the Falkens, and, come in 215/45-17, UNLIKE the Azenis which only comes in 225/45 or 245/40 in 17s.... They also cost more: I paid $113 ea for my Falkens, and the 215 S-03s cost $155 at Tire Rack the other day.

saided18
03-16-2003, 11:52 AM
The SP9000 that came with the MP3 suck in cold weather and snow. For them to havre any grip it must be warm!

low_psi
03-16-2003, 06:40 PM
i've got a set of azenis for the track and wow, the difference is night and day! the potenza re92's my DX came with have a 160 treadwear rating!! :wtf: my azenis are 200!

the potenzas i had on the front for 5500miles and 3 autoX events, are now HALF gone and my dad is shitting a brick cause he doesn't believe that the treadwear sucks on them...

scapamouche
03-16-2003, 06:46 PM
Unfortunately, treadwear ratings don't mean much unless you're only comparing tires by the same manufacturer. Each company has its own ratings that have little to do with any others. No standardization.

The rubber on the Azenis is SOFTER than the rubber on the RE040s (treadwear rating 140) on my MSP right now... If I recall, PP-S-03s have a tread rating of 280, and they are not much harder than the Re040s, with BETTER grip....

low_psi
03-16-2003, 06:54 PM
i know treadwears aren't standardized, but after so few miles i can see how much they've worn down...

redmption
03-16-2003, 10:08 PM
Damn, these tires are sweet. I get a better launch and it eats up the turns, they have great traction on the wet pavement too. You can feel the difference in the ride too, feels smoother or somthing, cant put my finger on it

rowan
03-16-2003, 10:12 PM
.. haha .. obviously the tires all suck in cold weather
and on ice and in snow .. wtf kind of tires do you think are on the car?
high performance tires? ohhh .... not all-season tires? hmmmm

saided18
03-16-2003, 10:54 PM
rowan i hope your not talk to me. i know they suck in the cold b/c they are high performance tires.

I-Am-Chris
03-16-2003, 11:38 PM
wow azenis are very badass for the money but they aren't all that. Shit if you just want some tires get some a032r's or some of the Kuhmo road race tires and change them every time you change your oil :-)

low_psi
03-16-2003, 11:40 PM
lol yea, those yoks are nice!! but i can't run in a street tire class with them on.

if you run your car in a street tire class, you run azenis, nuff said :cool:

redmption
03-17-2003, 12:11 AM
What do you mean you cant run street tire race in them?

scapamouche
03-17-2003, 01:43 AM
I'm pretty sure a set of Victoracers or A032s won't last the time between oil changes..... unless you change the oil every 500 miles.... ;)

AFaceInTheCrowd
03-17-2003, 02:42 AM
hmm reading all the posts about the stock bridgestones being crap in wet weather has me liking the fact that i live in southern cali :D:D:D:D:D when my msp comes in, we will see.

nattyboy513
03-17-2003, 04:01 PM
i would like to get lower profile tires... i really like the yokomaha parada spec2's (the tread pattern is sick!!) and i hear that perelli and nitto are very good too. any suggestions. i kinda wanna do it soon so i can get good money for the potenzas.

low_psi
03-17-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by redmption
What do you mean you cant run street tire race in them?

you can't run in a street tire class in SCCA Solo2 Racing with a tire that has a treadwear index of less than 140

I-Am-Chris
03-18-2003, 01:41 AM
paradas are badass but are noisey and suck when they wear down