Warning!? Don't use the hand brake to powerslide!

[gotdlife]

I did that and the the wheels for one DON't lock up and second issue the front tires brake as well!

Also the ABS doesn't like it!

My 96' MX6 was a blast to handbrake turn in. Not the MSP though

If anyone has knowledge onto why the ABS is tied into the Handbrake ect.. I'd love to know.

[Newf]

I had a prelude that did something like this.....wasn't fun at all.

Strange.

[AGR]

Children,,,children!!! There are other cars for people that want to do that silly shit. They are called Pontiac Sunfires!!! (rofl)

(chair) (chair)

[gotdlife]

Not it wasn't and the ABS seriously didn't like it. It pushed the brake pedal all the way up and as i pressed it back down the ABS went off for a good 1/2 a second. I guess to reset. The smell when I parked it wasn't that great either.

Is great to have a forum to post on and warn other owners.

I wonder if there is any chance that it can be made to work like a good hand brake and not involve the front brakes.

Keep up the good work on the Clunk Newf and thanks again!

[gotdlife]

LOL I may be silly AGR but not silly enough to drive a sunfire!

[Newf]

Pull the handbrake on in a sunfire while moving the car would probably split in two

Honestly, I hardly ever do it. Although, there has been times in the winter where the car would not turn at all because of snow or ice, and the handbrake has saved me from an accident a few times. So in the MP3 it still works. Hmmmm, another reason to keep the mp3..

[dafababa]

I dont know what you did wrong but slide in the snow with the ebrake all the time and I have had no issues with the abs going off. mabey mine is broke. (kidding)

[gotdlife]

Nah I don't think it triggers the ABS after thinking about it some more. I know the abs went a little nutz after i did it. Only bad thing was the front brakes seem to be applied with handbrake is on. That is fine now that i Know.

[dafababa]

yeah I really dont think that there is any reason to be alarmed. also the fronts should not even move. its just a cable/ pully attached rightt to the rear calipers

[HADA 11]

Yeah,
The parking brake, if used alone, has nothing to do with the ABS.

The only way I could see the ABS getting confused is if you were on the brakes, then yanked the parking brake. The sensors would think the rear brakes were locked and try to modulate them.

I'm trying to figure out exactly how the EBD works, but I'm sure it would confuse things too.

I have some fun with the parking brake when I enter my laneway when its snow covered. The ABS minds it's own business.

[turboge]

I can just see the next video clip of this now....... "I pulled the e-brake and slid into a curb"

We've all seen the corolla that tried this outside his house..... Please refrain from using the e-brake in this manor, it's just not right especially on this car.

[REMillers]

Hmm I've been using it alot these pass days to play around on the back streets. No problems, or effects noticed. Though I dont have ABS, but it should have any effect on the system. The only thing the E-brake is normally in conjunction with is the Day time running lights on some cars, noramlly two notches will turn them off.

[Dexter]

Originally posted by turboge
I can just see the next video clip of this now....... "I pulled the e-brake and slid into a curb"

We've all seen the corolla that tried this outside his house..... Please refrain from using the e-brake in this manor, it's just not right especially on this car.

bahah that was hillarious. and on tape....all over the internet..oh the shame :D :D

[acidbbg]

Acutally i did it in the snow...i went to a parking lot...and turned the whell hard left..pulled the e-brake...and gunned it...

sat ther doing 360's...lots of fun...The ABS never bothered me...but...HADA11 has a point...if you used your brakes and pulled the ebrake...i can see..that ABS having problems...

chas

[JasonH]

Originally posted by turboge
We've all seen the corolla that tried this outside his house.....
I haven't seen that. You have a link? Or something to search for in Google?

[REMillers]

Hold on let me find it again, it was in the Video section and on couple of other sites.

[MP5Raycer]

the fornt wheels do not lock up at all .... i have been doing donuts on trays for weeks and my fronts stay spinning like nothing ... i did think that at first but there is no way with all the slidding ive done it acts just like any other e-brake rear wheels only

[REMillers]

link to, how not to drift video (http://www.hotperthcars.net/nitrane/carvids/hownottodrift.mpeg)

[gotdlife]

I musta use the normal brake as well :(

[yashooa]

Originally posted by AGR#7
Children,,,children!!! There are other cars for people that want to do that silly shit. They are called Pontiac Sunfires!!! (rofl)

(chair) (chair)


(lol) (rofl)

You get em Pops....
Ah wait a minute I'm an old guy to!

[flat_black]

The reason the ABS can be 'set off' durring hand brake slides is the fact that you're generally causing the car to lose traction on the rear wheels. After that, if you hit the normal brakes, the third channel of the ABS system realizes that the rear wheels have broken loose and reacts accordingly. The ABS system equipped on select Protege's is a three channel system, two on either wheel on the front, and the two rear wheels are sensed using the same sensor, so if either one is slipping at all, then the ABS is triggered.

Now, the issue of the hand brake not grabbing as well as it does on some other cars; The Protege5, MS Protege, and the like have rear disk brakes, and the parking brake actuates the pistons within the brake, using the normal pads and calipers to lock the rears. If it were the drum-in-disk style or solid drums, the rear's would lock up really quickly. This being because rear drums actually do stop the car 'quicker', but the reason that we use disks, generally, rather than drums is that they shed heat much faster, generally, and are more resistant to heat buildup and fade. Also, servicing them takes less time and money, usually. I hope this clears some things up, and good luck with your sliding. Hehee.

Eddie