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twiztedjeckel
02-25-2003, 11:06 PM
teh UPS fairy was kind enough to drop this off earlier for me so it was here when i got home. should be installed by this weekend at the latest.

the_glassman
02-25-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by twiztedjeckel
teh UPS fairy was kind enough to drop this off earlier for me so it was here when i got home. should be installed by this weekend at the latest.
Nice lights @$$hole. :D
Why don't you tell everyone else what you got coming?
Are you going to want some help with those are do you want the Rotary Expert to install them?

Limited Edition
02-25-2003, 11:15 PM
That's sweet ..
how many Kelvin's is that kit?
how much did you pay?
and is it a DIY project?

macklum
02-25-2003, 11:15 PM
meow .dont let it scratch your eyes out . Enjoy the lights

twiztedjeckel
02-25-2003, 11:23 PM
the rotary expert does not get to help but you do assman. bring your rubbers with you as well.


the lights are 4500K low/high beam setup. i don't know about you guys but i'm not up on my japanese

Scrapin 240
02-26-2003, 12:05 AM
that is a very nice kit. that will be one of the first mods after the BOV for the MSP when my gf gets it.

It should be a simple install, ground power, and headlight (low/highbeam) inputs.

just need to find a good spot for the ballasts.

Limited Edition
02-26-2003, 12:13 AM
How does the ballasts get installed? Do we need to drill any holes in the engine bay for them to get fitted? oor can they just be twisted tied to something?

What bulb # is our car's using?

MikeBlueP5
02-26-2003, 12:13 AM
and please, post some damn pics. I have seen the hell out of those kits for sell, specially on ebay, and I just wanna see what they look like, you are the first to have them that I know of.
Mike

Limited Edition
02-26-2003, 12:14 AM
nevermind, i see H4 written on the spec sheet.
btw, how many bulbs are in ou headlights?
I notice at night when we don't turn our headlights on. the daylight running and low beams don't make much of a differences. Are they sharing the same bulb? is that why?

Time for HID's...stock headlight bulbs are useless.

phantom
02-26-2003, 12:19 AM
how much did u paid for including shipping? I am thinking of getting one set... I used to have HID on my P5 too, I sold them and I kinda getting mad without them now.

also, you realize you have to disable the DRL otherwise it will flash the hell out of it.....

the_glassman
02-26-2003, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by Limited Edition
How does the ballasts get installed? Do we need to drill any holes in the engine bay for them to get fitted? oor can they just be twisted tied to something?

What bulb # is our car's using?
After finding the ideal location they probably will be ziptied some place.
Yes they are standard H4's like most headlights and all of the protege's, except the P5 which uses H7's I believe.

the_glassman
02-26-2003, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by MikeBlueP5
and please, post some damn pics. I have seen the hell out of those kits for sell, specially on ebay, and I just wanna see what they look like, you are the first to have them that I know of.
Mike
We will both take pictures with our digital camera's, I also want to get a picture with one side upgraded and one side stock.

MikeBlueP5
02-26-2003, 12:28 AM
I was wondering about that with the canadian p5s and the MSP/MP3s, I dont know how the DRLs work on these cars. I know on the good ole 01 s10 my woman has the DRLs are actually the high beams just a drop in voltage to them (they arent all too bright) and when darkness falls the DRLs switch off autmatically and the headlights come on. this can only be bypassed in the 00 newer model s10s by pressing the dome light override switch 3 times. some weird shiznit. But anyhow we just got some HIDs for her truck, they should be here thursday at he latest, lemme know if you guys want pics. I know its not a mazda but what the hell just to show the kits.
Mike

the_glassman
02-26-2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by Limited Edition
nevermind, i see H4 written on the spec sheet.
btw, how many bulbs are in ou headlights?
I notice at night when we don't turn our headlights on. the daylight running and low beams don't make much of a differences. Are they sharing the same bulb? is that why?

Time for HID's...stock headlight bulbs are useless.
Yes H4's are single bulb lights.
I think the stock lights are pretty nice on Protege's, please don't bitch about the stock lighting until you've rode in a FD RX-7 with stock lights at night.

I-Am-Chris
02-26-2003, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by twiztedjeckel
teh UPS fairy was kind enough to drop this off earlier for me so it was here when i got home. should be installed by this weekend at the latest.

Juice!

Vicocola
02-26-2003, 03:36 AM
so how much did u get them for?

phantom
02-26-2003, 03:38 AM
same question. how much???

I am really considering the same kit. or the one from misterjung or the one from autolamps-online.com

twiztedjeckel
02-26-2003, 07:18 AM
you guys really need to be careful when ordering a set of HID replacements.there's alot of shit floating around the internet like alot of the stuff you'll find on ebay. alot of the cheap korean knockoffs you have to actually drill the base of the buld so it can be fitted securly into your car. not something alot of people are going to want to do but if they can save a couple hundred of the allmighty bucks they do it. check these links and you'll get alot of great info like i've found.

http://www.intellexual.net/hid.htm

http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/headlight-menu1.htm

Yellow:
1500 k Candlelight
2700-2900 k Yellow painted fog halogen bulbs
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Yellowish white:
3200 k Sunrise/sunset
3200 k Premium H7 non painted halogen bulb
3400 k 1 hour from dusk/dawn
-------------------------------
White:
4100 k Philips/Osram OEM HID D2S
5500 k Bright sunny daylight around noon
----------------
Blueish white
5500-5600 k Electronic photo flash
6000 k Philips Ultinon HID D2S
6500-7500 k Overcast sky
-----------------
Blue:
9000-12000 k Blue sky
-----------------
Purple:
28000 Northern sky
12000-30000 k Ultra Violet light (black light)


a couple of the most important things to remember is that Philips and Osram are the main manufacturers of factory HID's so odds are if you find somebody offering "PHILIPS HID's" then they're probably just the ballasts so don't fall for it. another is the kelvin rating on the lights. the higer you go the more blueish-purple they tend to get. whether it be different gases inside the bulbs or some kind of tint on them they become more useless as well. this explains why i went with the 4500K RISING WHITE. its about the purest white color you can get.

twiztedjeckel
02-26-2003, 10:39 AM
and last time i checked the US cars don't have day time running lights so nothing will be cutoff or dissabled.

also, with alot of the HID kits that are available they only come with a low beam,there's no true high beam HID. different companies use different methods of acheiving the high beam whether its by using mirrors or moving the bulb. the CATZ system's high beam actually has the bulb move back into the housing more which creates a wider pattern when you flip the highs on.

with the normal HID kits, when you flip the highs on the lights completly shut off from what i've heard. not exactly a mistake you want to make to many times

scapamouche
02-26-2003, 10:59 AM
The autolamps-online H4 Hylow kit uses electronics to shift the location of the arc within the tube to get the effect of highbeams. Seems interesting, I'm just not sure if I trust the Worldpay system that they use for billing: too many horror stories about Pay Pal....

twiztedjeckel
02-26-2003, 11:23 AM
i personally have never had any problems with paypal. i think the company i got the lights from actually redirects you to paypal when your filling out your order thats how they receive payments. i think...


like i said, different companies use different methods. whatever they can do to make their system the most cost effective and easiest to put together. myself i really wasn't looking for any problems with mine that why i went with a little higher quality company like CATZ-FET. i had a set of driving lights from them that were outstanding that i paid a pretty penny for as well so i knew the quality and craftsmanship involved with what i was getting. these are deffinely not the cheapest system out there but they're one of the better names in the aftermarket lighting business. i'm just hoping the install goes alright without any problems which i'm sure it should. besides the ultra useful:rolleyes: japanese instrucitons it does come with very detailed english instructions.

i'd like to get these lights in possibly thursday night but more likely friday night because i'll be showing the car off and driving in the local St. Patricks day parade to advertise for a friends business.

AGR
02-26-2003, 11:39 AM
Look what I just got!!!!

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dc02b3127cce9494a51206080000001610

Oooops! Wrong forum!!!!

(chair) (chair) (chair)
(rofl) (rofl) (rofl)

twiztedjeckel
02-26-2003, 11:54 AM
well thats not what i expected to see as a reply while i'm here at work but ok

turboge
02-26-2003, 06:20 PM
Jeckel, how much, and where did you order from? I'm looking at ProXenon kits.

Vicocola
02-26-2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by AGR#7
Look what I just got!!!!

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dc02b3127cce9494a51206080000001610

Oooops! Wrong forum!!!!

(chair) (chair) (chair)
(rofl) (rofl) (rofl)

lol i hope u put a pw in all these files before your wife finds out!! :D

twiztedjeckel
02-26-2003, 08:17 PM
i thought that was his wife:p

well boys time to go install the lights. i'll be back with all the info your requesting and hopefully teh victor of this little test tonight.

Limited Edition
02-27-2003, 12:25 AM
tell us how the install goes....
And how difficult you would rate the installation.
i'm worried about doing it on my own if i order a kit...because i'm a dumbie with it comes to these things.
tell us where you installed the ballast as well...
pictures are always great!

MikeBlueP5
02-27-2003, 09:58 PM
Hey guys i just posted in another thread titled Real HID with my kit versus the misterjung kit, i highly recommend his kit, no joke, it is the 7000k violet (its the one in my girls S10 next to my pro 5) hers are very bright white and purple, and mine are really blue-8000k's
MikeReal HID (http://www.protege5.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13767)

Dexter
02-27-2003, 10:03 PM
i was thinking about getting HIDs, but

A) cost
B) not enough other people have them, so it makes u stick out.

of course, people with the spicy mica dont really care for B anyways... :p

MikeBlueP5
02-27-2003, 10:09 PM
at misterjung.com they are 379 shipped to your door, ready to install. Thats by far the best deal I have found.
Mike

Dexter
02-27-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by MikeBlueP5
at misterjung.com they are 379 shipped to your door, ready to install. Thats by far the best deal I have found.
Mike

sounds like a good price, maybe to people who have actual jobs, lol. most of the months paychecks go to just paying for the car...so id rather pay my 370 for the car payment than 379 for some lights, but yeah thats not bad price at all.

twiztedjeckel
02-27-2003, 10:43 PM
oh yeah thats a really super price for a set of low beam purple/blue lights. remember,the higher the kelvin# you get the more useless and basically ricey they are. i've still yet to take pictures due to the fact that,well, work sucks but how else am i going to pay the bills.

i promise by this weeked probably even friday night i'll have the pictures up. i'll probably start a new thread for it as wel

MikeBlueP5
02-27-2003, 10:49 PM
shit if making them colored is ricey then all bmws, lexus', mercedes, and acuras are ricey as well, and dont say its because the projectors because they all do not use them, and also did you forget how easy it is to change bulbs if the results are not satisfactory. If i wanted plain white lights i would have stuck with stock. To each their own. hell if we want to get ricey what the hell is a car painted orange? not that i dont like a orange car/mazdaspeed but you need to redefine ricey. oh yeah what about your wing? isnt that a bit ricey? and another thing if the HIDS worked properly there would not be a use for the high beams, also a reason oem hids dont have them, so do a little more research!

Limited Edition
02-28-2003, 12:41 AM
Can someone tell me if your MAZADSPEED works on one bulb for everything? meaning, does our headlight bulb work as a daytime running light/ low and high beam?
Or is there a seperate bulb for the high beam?

scapamouche
02-28-2003, 03:02 AM
Unfortunately for all of us who want to do HIDs, the MSP has H4 headlights. The H4 design bulb combines low and high beam into a SINGLE unit. I have only seen a couple quality kits out there that do both hi and low for H4. Most of the time, you just end up without one or the other.

The CATZ dual kit gets the Hi/Low effect by moving the bulb, and the Autolamps-online kit uses electronics to 'warp' the ionization pattern inside the bulb to get the effect of high and low beams.
I'm not sure how much the CATZ kit costs, but autolamps wants $600 for the 4k kit and $735 for the 6k kit.

Probably the best option for an MSP owner who wants HIDs would be to install the P5 lights, which DO have a separate hi and low beam bulb. Wiring required, though....

BTW, the reason one of out members called the 7k and 8k kits ricey was because to get that color requires filters that reduce the total light output of the bulb. Under the filter, they are the same bulbs as the lower value kits..... As for BMW and Audi, they actually use 4-5k bulbs in their systems, not 7k+.... They want LIGHT output, not spiffy colors....

phantom
02-28-2003, 03:16 AM
I'd second that. I would prefer to put on P5 lights too. but if I am going for HID on my MSP, I would probably get the one from autolamps-online.com since their kits have the best quality.

twiztedjeckel
02-28-2003, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by scapamouche
BTW, the reason one of out members called the 7k and 8k kits ricey was because to get that color requires filters that reduce the total light output of the bulb. Under the filter, they are the same bulbs as the lower value kits..... As for BMW and Audi, they actually use 4-5k bulbs in their systems, not 7k+.... They want LIGHT output, not spiffy colors....

exactly. that or they tint the bulbs. some even use different gasses. if your looking for some blue lights just go buy some cheap APC ones and save yourself a couple hundred bucks.

http://www.fet-usa.com/news_reviews.asp

that link shows the CATZ system which i have and installed. alot of wiring between the ballasts,ignitors and high/low control box but easy as hell,plug N play all the way. nobody can screw this up i swear. below is a link to the site in which i purchased mine. $600 but worth every penny i think. great customer service as well.

http://www.liteswap.com/h4dualhig43.html

enjoy till i get pictures of my own to put up.

Newf
02-28-2003, 09:13 AM
In Canada, yes, the H4 is our running our daytime, lows/highs.

The P5 however, has 2 different bulbs.

I'm assuming the MSP is the same as the MP3...this is somthing I never looked at when I seen the speed

Limited Edition
02-28-2003, 10:26 AM
i guess i'll lose my day light running light feature if i get HID's huh?

twiztedjeckel
02-28-2003, 11:00 AM
not possitive but wouldn't the HID's still be on as your DTRL's?

the_glassman
02-28-2003, 02:51 PM
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the_glassman
02-28-2003, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by UnlceBen'sP5


shit if making them colored is ricey then all bmws, lexus', mercedes, and acuras are ricey as well, and dont say its because the projectors because they all do not use them, and also did you forget how easy it is to change bulbs if the results are not satisfactory. If i wanted plain white lights i would have stuck with stock. To each their own. hell if we want to get ricey what the hell is a car painted orange? not that i dont like a orange car/mazdaspeed but you need to redefine ricey. oh yeah what about your wing? isnt that a bit ricey? and another thing if the HIDS worked properly there would not be a use for the high beams, also a reason oem hids dont have them, so do a little more research!

Lights that are painted blue are RICE!!!
If you want white lights your not going to get them with the stock bulbs, sorry.
Rice is when something is done that serves no fucntion, such as paiting a lightbulb blue. Just because a car is certain color does not make it rice.
I have racing stripes on my car is that rice??? :confused:
The CATZ HID system works just fine, and where I come from there is always a need for a high beam. Ever heard of flash to pass???
What would be the point of only having a low beam???
Cars like the NSX have an HID low and a regular high beam.
This can't be done on a regular car with a standard H4 bulb.
Maybe you should do a little more research.

JunkPunch
02-28-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by MikeBlueP5
and another thing if the HIDS worked properly there would not be a use for the high beams, also a reason oem hids dont have them, so do a little more research!

Huh? How would you not need high beams if the HIDs worked correctly? Low beams are wide and low, high beams are narrow and far.HID low beams don't help how far you can see - quite the opposite since the cutoff is so sharp.

The reason there are no OEM HID high beams is because HID lights take a second or 2 to "warm up" and get to full lighting ability. So if you had HID high beams, when you flicked them on you would have to wait until you could see properly. Not good. That's why new cars have HID lows and halogen highs.

mushin25
02-28-2003, 03:20 PM
no offense, but you say rice is something that does not serve a purpose, but do color lights not serve a purpose at least to the person that has them and that is at least to that person that their car looks better. just because you don't like it does not mean others don't or the person who has what ever mod it may be is wrong. its just their personal style or expression. if you don't like it don't look. it's just like freedom of speech, you have the right to say what you like, but i also have the right not to listen. this is one of the things that make this country great that you are aloud freedom of expression, why continully burn people for what they consider nice or stlylish ext. just because you don't. sorry to rant, but i am a little tired of people continully bitching just because they don't consider it right or its not their personal style. because thats all it is what one person likes and another does not.

t3ase
02-28-2003, 03:22 PM
amen.

twiztedjeckel
02-28-2003, 03:55 PM
yeah so anyway colored lights are ricey. and i am going to bitch because when some jerks ultra blue hid bulbs are blinding me as i'm coming down the other side of the rode towards him i'm gonna be a little less than happy about it. especially if they're not aimed correctly.

don't even make me mention the infamous "scoop" thread thats now resting peacefully in the flamewars section.

t3ase
02-28-2003, 03:58 PM
I wish this whole "ricey" term would just die. We're here not to insult other members, but to ask and give help. And I don't want to come off as some lame ass "everyone just get along" person, but this is stupid. Nor do I want a flamewar to be started, so I say drop it and the term. It'd be beneficial for us all in the long run.

That's just my opinion, whether it's "ricey" or not.

mypfizzle
02-28-2003, 03:59 PM
i wish i had some hids. -=( soon.. very soon.. gunnah be nice tho.. be sure to flick some night shots after u get them installed. -=)
- John

mushin25
02-28-2003, 04:10 PM
but its ok for you to blind others with your ultra bright white hids. thats kind of interesting.

the_glassman
02-28-2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by mushin25
no offense, but you say rice is something that does not serve a purpose, but do color lights not serve a purpose at least to the person that has them and that is at least to that person that their car looks better. just because you don't like it does not mean others don't or the person who has what ever mod it may be is wrong. its just their personal style or expression. if you don't like it don't look. it's just like freedom of speech, you have the right to say what you like, but i also have the right not to listen. this is one of the things that make this country great that you are aloud freedom of expression, why continully burn people for what they consider nice or stlylish ext. just because you don't. sorry to rant, but i am a little tired of people continully bitching just because they don't consider it right or its not their personal style. because thats all it is what one person likes and another does not.
That is text book rice. All for looks, and for nothing else. Thats great if you like them, I have friends with Honda's that like them as well.
The point is, if you are going to do something, do it right.
Form over function is rice.

mushin25
02-28-2003, 04:25 PM
just because you choose to make you car look good does not mean its not done right or that they are only doing things to their car for form, they may be doing other mods for perfomance or function. theirs nothing wrong with making a car look could and perform well.

mushin25
02-28-2003, 04:29 PM
by the way the point is not, "do something, do it right", the point is nobody knows any better than any one else, it's all opinion and personal style, and anyone who thinks they know better because you happen to have a differing opinon is a dumbass.

the_glassman
02-28-2003, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by mushin25
just because you choose to make you car look good does not mean its not done right or that they are only doing things to their car for form, they may be doing other mods for perfomance or function. theirs nothing wrong with making a car look could and perform well.
Hell its your car and you can do what ever you want to it.
I'm just not big on looking cool, my car to me isn't a status toy. I race it, wash it, and use it to get from point A to point B.
I think HID's look good enough as it is, why would you want to ruin it with some APC looking bulbs??? :confused:

the_glassman
02-28-2003, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by mushin25
by the way the point is not, "do something, do it right", the point is nobody knows any better than any one else, it's all opinion and personal style, and anyone who thinks they know better because you happen to have a differing opinon is a dumbass.
So having less light output and more glare is the way to do it in your opinion???

mushin25
02-28-2003, 04:38 PM
no, i agree more with you guys, but this is my opinon, i'm not going to bash someone because they think differently.

the_glassman
02-28-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by mushin25
no, i agree more with you guys, but this is my opinon, i'm not going to bash someone because they think differently.
I'm not bashing anybody, I just think if you are going to do something like this, you might as well get the best light output and get what you pay for. Otherwise please just save yourself a few hundred dollars and get some APC bulbs. Better yet, I think twiztedjeckel still has his stock H4 lights, we can dip them in any paint you want or even use a sharpie and make them the color of the rainbow if you wish.
It will only set you back $200.00 :D

mushin25
02-28-2003, 04:48 PM
by callingsome one a ricer who odviously takes offence to it, i would call it bashing him, again my opinon.

the_glassman
02-28-2003, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by mushin25
by callingsome one a ricer who odviously takes offence to it, i would call it bashing him, again my opinon.
It was a joke howdy, a joke.

JunkPunch
02-28-2003, 04:59 PM
glassman and tiwztedjeckel - where do you guys live in Binghamton? I grew up in Endicott. Just curious.

the_glassman
02-28-2003, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by JunkPunch
glassman and tiwztedjeckel - where do you guys live in Binghamton? I grew up in Endicott. Just curious.
Westside in the house!!! ;)
I worked in Endicott for 3 years.

MikeBlueP5
02-28-2003, 08:04 PM
hate to break it to you twisted and phantom neither my bulbs or her bulbs are tinted. IT is the gas mixture inside the bulb. There are no filters or caps, or crummy paint on the bulbs. Research more comn guys if you wanna dis on people or at least try then figure out what you are talking about first. and by the way i want you to find a set of APC bulbs that come near to the amount of light ours put out. To each their own man. If you want white go for it. If I want slightly tinted purple bulbs then im gonna do it and another thing to tell you your car will blind anyone just like mine if not aimed properly so dont even start on that topic, these cars werent meant to have hids so the only "REAL" way to get them is to do a retrofit. Sorry to hear that you think that just because your hids are made by Katz that they are superior, but ya know what thats funny if they were so good then why werent they used in OE like mine? Damn thats odd! Oh well! you like your lights ill like mine how about that?

the_glassman
02-28-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by MikeBlueP5
hate to break it to you twisted and phantom neither my bulbs or her bulbs are tinted. IT is the gas mixture inside the bulb. There are no filters or caps, or crummy paint on the bulbs. Research more comn guys if you wanna dis on people or at least try then figure out what you are talking about first. and by the way i want you to find a set of APC bulbs that come near to the amount of light ours put out. To each their own man. If you want white go for it. If I want slightly tinted purple bulbs then im gonna do it and another thing to tell you your car will blind anyone just like mine if not aimed properly so dont even start on that topic, these cars werent meant to have hids so the only "REAL" way to get them is to do a retrofit. Sorry to hear that you think that just because your hids are made by Katz that they are superior, but ya know what thats funny if they were so good then why werent they used in OE like mine? Damn thats odd! Oh well! you like your lights ill like mine how about that?

I'd put money on it that an APC Hyperwhite 130 watt bulb would put more light out.
It's your car anyway so do what or think what you want.

twiztedjeckel
03-01-2003, 12:12 AM
i do think they're superior. how many other kits come with high and low beams? sure there's a couple but do they have the quality thats been proven by KATZ? and what are your bulbs the original equipment on anyway? last time i checked Philps and Orsam didn't make aftermarket light kits and those are the 2 main distributors of OE.

here's a couple quick pictures i snapped while cleaning the car up in the garage. obviously not a good palce to do it and it nowhere near catches the true lighting output of the bulbs. i will get pictures of the car on the road this weekend

twiztedjeckel
03-01-2003, 12:14 AM
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liteswap
03-01-2003, 03:10 PM
THere are a lot of vendors out there, but please remember that not all HID kits are created equal.

I have heard so many complaints about Mr. Jung it isnt even funny. Goto the BMW boards and the Honda boards, he has ripped off so many people.

Check out http://www.hidforum.com

Also, http://www.liteswap.com uses a secure encrypted server with their own merchant account.

The reason why some places use Paypal is because they either do not have credit or have so many chargebacks (credit card complaints) that they cannot get approved for one.

Equinox
03-01-2003, 03:18 PM
looks ballz to the wallz clean, very professional kit, looks like something you'd see on a tasteful showcar, good job bro!

now... to get me a set..

Limited Edition
03-01-2003, 03:32 PM
Those HID's look really good.
They are aimed exactly where i'd like them..
Although i still wish they were 6000K with more of a bluish/purpish hue like you'd find on a BMW. Please post more poctures of your install and where you placed your ballast.

Post pictures of both high and low beams on a road..
Thanks!

twiztedjeckel
03-02-2003, 12:02 AM
i'm not sure who this LITESWAP member is but if its Eric at Liteswap.com then he knows is stuff and is great with customer service. the customer service thing i can't stress enough. i mean its one thing for somebody to just sell a product to somebody else and have the attitude of "here ya go,thanks for the money. now don't bother me again unless you bring back more of the green stuff." the guys at Liteswap.com weren't like that at all when i purchased my kit. and because of this reason i've already persauded some friends who were ready to but cheaper lesser named kits from another online vendor, cough cough (mr.jung)cough. i haven't heard the most repuatable of stories about those kits that are sold on that site nor have i actually yet to see one. but thats how alot of internet business goes,how many people actually come in contact with the products first? its more word of mouth. if you want great products and even better custmer service go with Liteswap.com's stuff. you won't regret it.

as for the pictures they honestly don't do it justice. yes they are nice but the lights are so much brighter and clearer than could ever be captured by my camera.

liteswap
03-02-2003, 12:24 AM
Hey there twizted, it is I, Eric :)

I cruise our reference stat folder once in a while and saw some hits coming from here so I decided to stop on by. I forgot about this forum as we currently sponsor the **********.

twizted, I know you have told a lot of people about us, thanks for the compliment!

twiztedjeckel
03-02-2003, 10:36 PM
hey, i do what i can and back a product when a transaction goes as smoothly as this one did and i come away grinning like an idiot due to the outragously cool Xenon lights i bought and installed myself(with the help of The_Glassman of course)

i told you Liteswap, i'd spread the word. actually i think i'm going to go over to the RX-7club and talk them up a little over there as well. there's a thread going on right now about HID kits and installs. those guys are always looking to spend money on their cars because the lighting on the 3rd gen TT cars sucks so horribly.

i was going to go out and snap a few quick pictures of the car on the road but its snowing and the wind is blowing horribly up here so it'll have to wait for another day. sorry guys

twiztedjeckel
03-02-2003, 11:08 PM
heres another

mypfizzle
03-02-2003, 11:43 PM
the liteswap guys are great.. fast to respond to emails and answer my repetative questions.. so far so good.
- John

liteswap
03-06-2003, 10:37 AM
one more thing in response to MikeBlueP5, how is your HID kit OE? Seems you got decieved from some vendor's marketing ploy that just because it uses a Philips ballast, it is OEM. Catz has components that are OE in Acura, Infiniti, and Lexus... does that mean that a Catz kit is OEM? NO. Your kit most likely doesnt use a capsule that is made by a OE supplier (
Philips, Osram, GE). No OE supplier produces a bulb higher than 6000K.

Also, in regards to those asking about 6000K colors.. keep in mind that it takes some time for the capsules to "break-in" The temperature rating WILL rise after time.

To me, it is silly to offer anything greater than 6000K. We have had many requests and people approach us for these kits and we have to "educate" them everytime. It is quite annopying actually because some vendors out there have somehow clouded the minds of customers and making them think the higher the K, the better. We could offer 6000K+ kits at anytime and would sell plenty of them, but we believe in selling functional, QUALITY kits.

We have a couple other options in 5500K and 6000K, but I personally do not recommend them.