Aftermarket radiators

[MP3racer]

Are you looking for an aftermarket radiator for your MSP/P5/MP3/Protege?

They are currently available from Ron Davis (~$400-$500) and Corksport ($300).

I would like to put together either a group buy or find a manufacturer who could build one in the $250 range.

Is this something you would buy??

Please start a list so I have something to go to the manufacturers/suppliers with!!

Thanks!
Tom
Doc B Racing

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Are you looking for an aftermarket radiator for your MSP/P5/MP3/Protege?

They are currently available from Ron Davis (~$400-$500) and Corksport ($300).

I would like to put together either a group buy or find a manufacturer who could build one in the $250 range.

Is this something you would buy??

Please start a list so I have something to go to the manufacturers/suppliers with!!

Thanks!
Tom
Doc B Racing

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[AusOrion]

Would you look to have any MSP width aftermarket made?

Or are the all going to be full-width (MP3 and P5) radiators?

Cheers.

[MP3racer]

Would you look to have any MSP width aftermarket made?

Or are the all going to be full-width (MP3 and P5) radiators?

Cheers.

At this time I would have to say that full width is probably going to be the larger group and unfortunately numbers speak with manufacturers.

However, probably not a bad idea to indicate your preference of rad, either MSP width or full width and we'll see what we get....

[MSPM1cheLe]

i would be interested in one for the full width (p5 size) depending on the group price

[Discospeed]

I have a MSP, but not only do I want it full width(p5,protege) I'd also want it full height as well. For instance I test fit a CS full size radiator(had to sell it resently) and it's an 1 1/2"-2" shorter than my stock MSP radiator. I have straight rad brackets not the drop, bent brackets that the p5 guys have. Not a big deal just a thought, the p5's will work I just have to get new brackets to. Any idea of a time frame with this?

[MP3racer]

I have a MSP, but not only do I want it full width(p5,protege) I'd also want it full height as well. For instance I test fit a CS full size radiator(had to sell it resently) and it's an 1 1/2"-2" shorter than my stock MSP radiator. I have straight rad brackets not the drop, bent brackets that the p5 guys have. Not a big deal just a thought, the p5's will work I just have to get new brackets to. Any idea of a time frame with this?


Time frame depends on whether I can get a current manufacturer interested in a group buy. If not, I'm going to a Performance Trade Show in early December where I can talk to some other manufacturers about making a new addition to the current available rads.

Inform me more about the differences between the standard Protege rad mounting and a P5 rad mount....

[dandan2]

well i had to switch to p5 radiator mounts wen i put the pwr in my protege! but it was the same rad that was on pirana's car and it looks like his sits flush! idk? put yah i did have to switch, the p5 brackets have a 45 degree angle down to the rad.

[MP3racer]

This is a Ron Davis radiator in our race car with sedan mounts. Is this what you mean as "flush"? Do these look the same as the P5 mounts?

http://www.msprotege.com/members/MP3racer/mazdaspeedprotege017.jpg

[31R]

Im in for one straight swap for the stock MSP radiator, getting rid of the stock intercooler.

[SeR_Cyclops]

That is a kicking price. Depending on the time of year i might be down!

[Wagonbacker9]

im in for one straight swap for the stock msp radiator, getting rid of the stock intercooler.


that is a kicking price. Depending on the time of year i might be down!

+1

get someone to make that strut brace too!

[big Lou]

I'm interested!

[MSP 2731]

I might be in the market for one for my MSP in the near future.

[Discospeed]

This is a Ron Davis radiator in our race car with sedan mounts. Is this what you mean as "flush"? Do these look the same as the P5 mounts?

http://www.msprotege.com/members/MP3racer/mazdaspeedprotege017.jpg

See were the rad bracket mounts to the frame the drops down to meet the radiator, on an MSP it doesn't drop down it's a flat piece making the MSP rad tall than a p5,or SE. I'll pm you and have to email you a pic of mine. I'm on an iPhone and just can't post it to the site

[fatti03msp]

Not def. yet, but going to add my name to the list.

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[boostdprotegelx]

Not def. yet, but going to add my name to the list.

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[CulRidr]

+1

get someone to make that strut brace too!
Was thinking the same thing.
I don't think I need a new rad, so I'll just say that I'll keep an eye on the thread. Would this be stock thickness or thicker like the Corksport? More surface area or just better construction?

[FLAMSP]

yes, please! Interested/Subs.

[Discospeed]

Put me on the list. Figure out the details later.

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[MP3Night]

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I'm in

[Discospeed]

http://www.msprotege.com/members/MP3racer/mazdaspeedprotege017.jpg

Is that an EVO strut brace that fits the protege or custom made piece? Pretty kickass!

[xJAZx]

i would guess its a custom triangulated strut brace, shouldnt be too hard to have made

[MP3racer]

http://www.msprotege.com/members/MP3racer/mazdaspeedprotege017.jpg

Is that an EVO strut brace that fits the protege or custom made piece? Pretty kickass!


It is a strut brace that was made by CP Products a while back. I think they are out of business now. One of the forum members tried to get some done but I don't know what happened. Works quite well though by triangulating the stress between the upper strut mounts.

[xJAZx]

what does the strut brace connect to on the firewall?

[MP3racer]

what does the strut brace connect to on the firewall?


It just connects to the upper portion of the firewall. Not very strong by itself but we have reinforced it with some plate on the opposite side. Not a whole lot of the force is transmitted to the area.

[Discospeed]

Is it a small plate or does it run from driver side to passenger side. Sorry I'll try to keep on the main subject. But I have a great idea to make one just a little different design.

[harrisonchang]

i would be interested in a full msp radiator.

[xJAZx]

hmmm, talked to a local about the strut brace and he quoted me 120

[MP3racer]

hmmm, talked to a local about the strut brace and he quoted me 120


If you can get it for that price and it is a quality piece then I would go for it!! The most time consuming and costly part of the brace are the mounting plates to the top of the struts since it requires cutting a thicker metal sheet. Otherwise, it is a matter of proper welding of the tubes.

[RX]

Count me in but I will need this very soon. I will be upgrading to a FMIC when I get back home from deployment in mid December. I was planning on getting the CS rad but if you can provide the same size radiator at a cheaper price, sure.

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[jamesk]

How much thicker is it going to be? If it is the same thickness, then I am in as well. The Hiboost kit does not give much clearance.

[Discospeed]

Count me in but I will need this very soon. I will be upgrading to a FMIC when I get back home from deployment in mid December. I was planning on getting the CS rad but if you can provide the same size radiator at a cheaper price, sure.

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You can use your stock msp radiatior set up with a FMIC. That's what I'm doing till I have time to get a full size and install it which takes probably an hour to swap'm out.

[Wagonbacker9]

hmmm, talked to a local about the strut brace and he quoted me 120

sign me up. lol I'd want to see a material spec sheet for thicknesses and whatnot, but I would DEFINITELY pay that.

[xJAZx]

sign me up. lol I'd want to see a material spec sheet for thicknesses and whatnot, but I would DEFINITELY pay that.

ill look into it more and possibly have one made when i get back from vacation the week of thanksgiving

[harrisonchang]

count me in too.

[big Lou]

Count me in also! More than willing to pay.

[BlkWidow]

hmmm, talked to a local about the strut brace and he quoted me 120
I want one 2, strut bar that is. I wish this had been upo when I needed a new radaitor

[Jaysanooch]

Count me in.

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[msp2709]

ID be in for one too

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[Discospeed]

Sorry for treadjacking Tom but the trianglular design Strut bar I'm working on is gonna be more rectanglar tubing like a GT Spec if anyones intrested and Im thinking powdercoated in maybe 3 or 4 color choices for around $140 shipped. Any more updates on the radiator Tom?

[MP3racer]

Sorry for treadjacking Tom but the trianglular design Strut bar I'm working on is gonna be more rectanglar tubing like a GT Spec if anyones intrested and Im thinking powdercoated in maybe 3 or 4 color choices for around $140 shipped. Any more updates on the radiator Tom?


I am working on the radiator project. The first company I had hoped to make a deal with will not have any radiators in for at least a month.

This is a minor setback, however it gives me time to try to find other sources at the racing trade show I will be going to in early December.

Sorry to any of you who had hopes this would fly sooner :(

I am definitely working on this though.....we need one for the race car too!!

[Discospeed]

I really just need it by next season which I believe starts in April here. So no rush for me ,but do you think you could offer a combo package with two 12" spal slim pull fans? That would be sweet! Just a thought.

[AusOrion]

but do you think you could offer a combo package with two 12" spal slim pull fans? That would be sweet! Just a thought.

I think thats an excellent idea!

Something else to consider might be to make up some brackets for this radiator. That way no matter what kind of car these go to - MSP, P5, MP3 etc - they definitely have a bracket that will work.

[AusOrion]

(hi) Any progress with this???

My plans for my car have changed (well gone back to the original) and I have decided that I'll stay with an N/A build.

Hence I would be interested in the P5 length radiator. I think that the P5 is a bit shorter than the MSP radiator to accomodate the black snorkel that runs over the top of it. As a lot of people have gone with CAI or SRI systems, or gone turbo and dont have the snorkel anymore - I think that there would be more interest in seeing an MSP height and P5 width radiator.

Is the radiator going to be a single pass unit (just thicker) - or would you consider a two-pass rad? Cheers.

[o0n8]

You can add me to the list for a full size if this is still going on

[MS_Rick]

Interested...

[MP3racer]

(hi) Any progress with this???

My plans for my car have changed (well gone back to the original) and I have decided that I'll stay with an N/A build.

Hence I would be interested in the P5 length radiator. I think that the P5 is a bit shorter than the MSP radiator to accomodate the black snorkel that runs over the top of it. As a lot of people have gone with CAI or SRI systems, or gone turbo and dont have the snorkel anymore - I think that there would be more interest in seeing an MSP height and P5 width radiator.

Is the radiator going to be a single pass unit (just thicker) - or would you consider a two-pass rad? Cheers.


Yes we have made significant progress!!
The build has gotten a green light!
(cabpatch)

We are currently working with a company on the technical aspects of the radiator build.
From all information I have been able to find the radiators in a manual tranny 01-03 2.0L sedan are the exact same as the radiators in a manual tranny 01-03 P5. In fact the Mazda part number for either one is identical.

The build looks to be fitment for 01-03 full size for manual tranny.

As with most of these we will need to get a prior commitment from 20-25 people to finalize.....

[o0n8]

consider me commited

[boostdprotegelx]

i'm committed pending a few things.

...looking for a full size rad

dual or triple pass cooler

price.

[AusOrion]

i'm committed pending a few things.

...looking for a full size rad

dual or triple pass cooler

price.

I'm also waiting for a bit more information about the proposed design of the radiator. It sounds like they will be going for the full sized radiator which should have a width of 705mm. I would really only be interested if it was a dual or triple pass radiator.

My questions are about the height and whether they will:
a) go with the 325mm height of the P5 and sedan in order to accomodate the plastic snorkel of the stock intake system
b) go with the 350mm height of the MSP which would suit any MSP's that use a FMIC and any P5s or sedans that use a CAI or SRI.

I look forward to getting some more information about the proposed design of the radiator.

[MakeMeGoFast]

Why the need to replace the Ron Davis? Or are you just looking to bring another option to the market?

[gangstagangsta]

I am very interested!!! I have the stock MSP with the SMIC core still in because I cant get rid of it. Is there going to be an increase in width, with the BOV and fans I dont have room as it is. Is there going to be fitment issues if I'm trying to get rid of the SMIC core? I am thinking the P5 radiator size would best fit my needs!

[yudkib]

for the count - im definitely interested, but not until i get a job (or get to production on some of my side projects).

[littlemimus]

when is payment needed?

[MP3racer]

It is great that so many of you share my excitement for this project!(cabpatch)

I intend to update everyone once all the details are set so that no misinformation is given. With the holidays here, I don't think I will have anything major to discuss until the new year. If I do I will certainly get it on the forum ASAP!

At this time it looks like the radiator will be a single pass design. Double and triple pass designs are great for where they are needed and add significant cost to te product. We have used a single pass radiator on the race car (turbo Protege for those who don't know :D) with no high temperature issues even in the hottest, most humid weather.

The size at this time stands to be the sedan/P5 width and most likely similar to the sedan/P5 height with some possible slight modifications either way. Let me know who this works for (or not) and why.

A ball park price will be determined soon.

Once the major details are set I will start to take deposits.

Again, thank you for your interest in this project! If we can make this work it will allow further projects and products to be developed!


Happy Holidays to all!!!!!(headbang)

[boostdprotegelx]

i'd be interested in a p5 width, but the msp height.

dual pass would be ideal. but.. idk. i guess let us know!

[Wagonbacker9]

difference in height is 2.5cm... whoop dee doo.

[boostdprotegelx]

difference in height is 2.5cm... whoop dee doo.

if it's just that little, why do they need new brackets? i'd say the difference is like over at least an inch.

[Wagonbacker9]

if it's just that little, why do they need new brackets? i'd say the difference is like over at least an inch.

25mm = 2.5 cm = .98" lol

an inch is plenty, as the MSP brackets will totally miss the P5 locating studs.



My questions are about the height and whether they will:
a) go with the 325mm height of the P5 and sedan in order to accomodate the plastic snorkel of the stock intake system
b) go with the 350mm height of the MSP which would suit any MSP's that use a FMIC and any P5s or sedans that use a CAI or SRI.

[o0n8]

i'd prefer the msp height, but i'm sure i can make the other work

[big Lou]

I'm definitely interested! Can you pm me about the oil bypass plate updates? Please and Thank you.

[boostdprotegelx]

25mm = 2.5 cm = .98" lol

an inch is plenty, as the MSP brackets will totally miss the P5 locating studs.

fail.(me)

[littlemimus]

im interested as well

[gangstagangsta]

MSP height would be Ideal, I would like to gut my Stock SMIC without any fitment issue. I'm sure there are others looking for this also, is there any way to get some fans in the deal? It would be nice to just replace all of it and be done.:)

[o0n8]

msp height would be ideal, i would like to gut my stock smic without any fitment issue. I'm sure there are others looking for this also, is there any way to get some fans in the deal? It would be nice to just replace all of it and be done.:)

+1

[yudkib]

ditto.

[littlemimus]

update??????????

[Discospeed]

MSP height would be Ideal, I would like to gut my Stock SMIC without any fitment issue. I'm sure there are others looking for this also, is there any way to get some fans in the deal? It would be nice to just replace all of it and be done.:)

I suggested this a couple pages ago. Several people were up for it. Hopfully with enough intrest it will happen.

[MP3racer]

I suggested this a couple pages ago. Several people were up for it. Hopfully with enough intrest it will happen.


At this time it looks like it will be similar to the MSP height and similar to the P5 /sedan width. Final details are still being worked out.

I would like to include fans bit that definitely adds cost. It will probably be an option with natural upcost

Everyone have a safe and Happy New Years!!(beer)

[boostdprotegelx]

excellent news!get a dual pass!

[MP3racer]

excellent news!get a dual pass!


Are you confusing a dual pass with double or triple core?

Dual pass radiators have a plate welded into the center of the core that forces the water to take a path around it to effectively pass it through a second time. Really is intended for serious heat issues which we have not seen with our race car and street versions. Also adds significant cost to a radiator due to the extra fabrication required.

Double and triple core radiators have a second or third row of tubes to add cooling capability with minimal additional cost. This is the most likely way we will go.

[boostdprotegelx]

however way you decide to go, i'm sure it'll be great. as long as it keeps my shit cool!

[MP3racer]

however way you decide to go, i'm sure it'll be great. as long as it keeps my shit cool!


Thanks for the support!! We will need you once the pre-ordering starts!!(2thumbs)

[boostdprotegelx]

fine with me! i'm down.

[MSPSILVER24]

Im in too. This will be a full length like the P5? for $250?

[harrisonchang]

when will preordering start? when can we expect these?

[MP3racer]

Im in too. This will be a full length like the P5? for $250?

Yes, it will be a full length radiator similar to the sedan/P5 length. The final price has not been established yet.



when will preordering start? when can we expect these?


Pre-ordering will start once the prototype has been finalized (aprox. 4-6 weeks) and they will be expected in a reasonable time frame afterward

We are diong our best to push this forward. All your interest and support is greatly appreciated!

[AusOrion]

As it looks like you will be going with the MSP height and sedan/P5 width, custom mounting brackets will be required. Not a big deal I know, but it will save everyone who buys one of these radiators the hassle of having to make their own brackets. It will be a relatively small cost addition to have a batch of brackets made up with the radiators.

Keep up the good work. (cool)

[Hookedupmp5]

how about a AWR performance radiator?

[zoom 79gc]

so its a full length, like p-5 and speed height
I am ok with this, as I'm getting rid of the side mount int.
Will we need brackets also, what would be the extra cost for them

[MP3racer]

how about a AWR performance radiator?


Nothing wrong with the radiators available from AWR (which are actually Ron Davis Radiators), just a little pricey...trying to bring into the market a more cost effective performance radiator...

[MS_Rick]

Nothing wrong with the radiators available from AWR (which are actually Ron Davis Radiators), just a little pricey...trying to bring into the market a more cost effective performance radiator...

AMEN! to that ^^

[MSPM1cheLe]

As it looks like you will be going with the MSP height and sedan/P5 width, custom mounting brackets will be required. Not a big deal I know, but it will save everyone who buys one of these radiators the hassle of having to make their own brackets. It will be a relatively small cost addition to have a batch of brackets made up with the radiators.

Keep up the good work. (cool)

^^^ good idea. maybe we can get a GI/GB for the brackets that will be needed?

I am excited for this, my MSP has a hard time staying cool on track due to my FMIC blocking the entire air dam that was to the radiator. hopefully upgrading the radiator will fix this, if not an upgraded radiator AND some custom shrouding will have to do. (wondering if any other FMIC users have this issue, although I am not aware of any MSPers that have a FMIC and track :/)

[Wagonbacker9]

^^^ good idea. maybe we can get a GI/GB for the brackets that will be needed?

I am excited for this, my MSP has a hard time staying cool on track due to my FMIC blocking the entire air dam that was to the radiator. hopefully upgrading the radiator will fix this, if not an upgraded radiator AND some custom shrouding will have to do. (wondering if any other FMIC users have this issue, although I am not aware of any MSPers that have a FMIC and track :/)

I was gonna say.. I've never had the pleasure of tracking, but this is part of why I went with a smaller IC core...

[JMKOOPA]

^^^ good idea. maybe we can get a GI/GB for the brackets that will be needed?

I am excited for this, my MSP has a hard time staying cool on track due to my FMIC blocking the entire air dam that was to the radiator. hopefully upgrading the radiator will fix this, if not an upgraded radiator AND some custom shrouding will have to do. (wondering if any other FMIC users have this issue, although I am not aware of any MSPers that have a FMIC and track :/)


True, I'm more of a highway track kinda guy. But the larder radiator should definitely help out with the over heating. I'm down for this GB.

[AusOrion]

^^^ good idea. maybe we can get a GI/GB for the brackets that will be needed?


Well, Im kinda hoping that DocB Racing will include them with the radiators. Seems a bit counter-intuitive that we have to go out after they are made and then wait for brackets to be made. It just makes sense to me that as they will be involved with designing the radiator that it should come with the brackets so we can mount them straight up (rockon)

[MP3racer]

^^^ good idea. maybe we can get a GI/GB for the brackets that will be needed?

I am excited for this, my MSP has a hard time staying cool on track due to my FMIC blocking the entire air dam that was to the radiator. hopefully upgrading the radiator will fix this, if not an upgraded radiator AND some custom shrouding will have to do. (wondering if any other FMIC users have this issue, although I am not aware of any MSPers that have a FMIC and track :/)


You can see the size of the intercooler we use on our "track car" in the pic below. With an upgraded aluminum radiator we have not had cooling problems.

[MP3racer]

Well, Im kinda hoping that DocB Racing will include them with the radiators. Seems a bit counter-intuitive that we have to go out after they are made and then wait for brackets to be made. It just makes sense to me that as they will be involved with designing the radiator that it should come with the brackets so we can mount them straight up (rockon)

I have done a bit of R&D on this topic.

If we go with the MSP height on the radiator, then fitment into a sedan or P5 will require new top brackets. The OE MSP brackets (in the top pic) should work fine for this. Of course, the fitment into an MSP with a FMIC would already have the brackets and not need new ones.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/MP3racer/msp%20radiator%20001.jpg

If we go with the sedan height, then the only fitment that would need new brackets are the MSP's with FMIC. They could use the OE sedan brackets which are available from onlinemazdaparts for less than $9/ea.

At this time I am inclined to go with the sedan height since I know the sedan brackets will remain readily available. Also, I am trying to make this as cost effective as possible.

Below is a pic of our race car with a similar aluminum radiator that was sedan height and with OE sedan brackets.

Nothing is final yet as we are still in the R&D stages of the radiator build.

[CulRidr]

God I love that strutbar...

[o0n8]

+1

[MSPSILVER24]

I think that everyone should do performance thin fans set. I saw two 12" thin fans for sale on ebay for $39.95 including shipping BRAND NEW. They are the same performance specs that the Street unit site has and a fraction of the cost. That should be the best way to enhance the performance of the radiator.

[AusOrion]

I understand that there will be cost implications if you go to MSP height - both in terms of the radiator itself and the need to make new brackets. I just think that if had to do 20-30 sets of brackets, they could be done for not a whole lot.

The other thing that should be considered is the market-ability of the radiator. If you go with the sedan height, then it could be perceived that people are buying a more expensive OEM radiator or a cheap copy of an AWR or Corksport radiator. All I'm saying is that by going to MSP height and getting a nice look and some flush-ness (yes, I just made that word up :p ) then you would have something unique and that generate more interest.

Thats just my 2c. I know that there is a way to go through the R&D process and you will keep us up to date with developments.

On a side note, the Autoexe strut bar is quite similar to the blue one shown. Hopefully, I can install my Autoexe on the car this weekend and post some pics :)

[shane02pro5]

Sign me up :)

[MSPM1cheLe]

You can see the size of the intercooler we use on our "track car" in the pic below. With an upgraded aluminum radiator we have not had cooling problems.

thanks. quite similiar to mine.. although, vegas is a little hotter than most places. and tracking on a 3.1 mile course at teh end up september just isnt fair for any car. :P

(this is when i had cooling issues; oh and at mazfest 09)

[MSPM1cheLe]

i really need one of these..... did a 2 day NASA track event this weekend, and couldn't get through either day without cooling issues :[


progress!? :D

[Wagonbacker9]

set up meth and have a sprayer on the IC/Rad too... at least it'll get you through.

[MP3racer]

i really need one of these..... did a 2 day NASA track event this weekend, and couldn't get through either day without cooling issues :[


progress!? :D


We are awaiting a prototype so that fitment can be assured. So unfortunately, it still is going to be abit for this to be ready....trying to get this done ASAP!!

[MSPSILVER24]

So a month or more?

[MP3racer]

So a month or more?


Wish I could say but I am at the mercy of the company making the radiators....I would expect at least two

[Speed3.5]

Would your proposed radiator perform better then CS one ?

[CrazyCaker]

Any idea what the core size will be, specifically thickness?

[MP3racer]

Would your proposed radiator perform better then CS one ?


I am not familiar with the specs/performance of the CS radiator so I can't really compare.

We are working with a very well known performance radiator manufacturer with very high quality standards yet an affordable price point. The radaitor will also be tested in our race car for ultimate cooling capabilities.

Hope this helps??(rockon)

[MP3racer]

Any idea what the core size will be, specifically thickness?

I will know more as soon as we get the prototype for trial fitment. I am eagerly awaiting its arrival but not sure when it will be.

Amazing that even though most of the US is in a deep freeze this is the busy time for most companies R&D departments?? I am told we are on the schedule...just don't have a completion date for the prototype...

[MSPSILVER24]

Nevermind

[CrazyCaker]

I will know more as soon as we get the prototype for trial fitment. I am eagerly awaiting its arrival but not sure when it will be.


Ok. I'm kind of limited (without modifications to the rad support etc.) to the thickness of the core due to my setup. As it is now, my turbo already comes very close to the stock rad core leaving maybe less then a 1/2" clearance. Yes, I have over heating issues with the stock rad but have managed to work with it for the time being using two 12" slim fans and a mostly water based coolant mixture.

[Wagonbacker9]

Hey, I am in contact with "AWR COMPANY" and I have spoke with the owner about a group buy. I am wondering if we put a list of 40 people together maybe we could get the "FULL PERFORMANCE RADIATOR" for a price below $360 which would be perfect. I will be speaking to them more about it tomorrow. I might be able to get the price down to $345ish.

A) unless I'm misreading, you're threadjacking badly.

B) 40 people? not gonna happen.

[MSPSILVER24]

Sorry didn't mean anything by it. I was just saying that this may be an option if the origional thread starter does not come through.

[Speed3.5]

I am not familiar with the specs/performance of the CS radiator so I can't really compare.

We are working with a very well known performance radiator manufacturer with very high quality standards yet an affordable price point. The radaitor will also be tested in our race car for ultimate cooling capabilities.

Hope this helps??(rockon)


hmmm, I guess this would be try and error type of deal to see who would perform better ?

[Wagonbacker9]

hmmm, I guess this would be try and error type of deal to see who would perform better ?

each one would either keep you cool enough, or wouldn't.... my bet is: either would. you'd have to exceed the capabilities of one and under the same condition not exceed the capabilities of the other, which would be impossible to reproduce. if he's looking at testing this on a full out track car, it should be MORE than capable on the street, and suitable for tracking a street car occasionally.

[Speed3.5]

each one would either keep you cool enough, or wouldn't.... my bet is: either would. you'd have to exceed the capabilities of one and under the same condition not exceed the capabilities of the other, which would be impossible to reproduce. if he's looking at testing this on a full out track car, it should be MORE than capable on the street, and suitable for tracking a street car occasionally.

yup, your right on that.

What radiator are you guys using now since from the pic's it resembles CS rad ?

[Circuit]

Sub!

[littlemimus]

update???? sorry im gettin antsy ha

[big Lou]

+1 Getting antsy on updates also.

[jbencosme]

ummmm got a 2003 ms protege and want to get a new corksports radiaotrs!!! price is 300 right???

[Wagonbacker9]

this isn't a CS rad... he's making a new one... details are in the thread here.

[LinuxRacr]

I'm curious as well about this, as it is now time to replace my Ron Davis radiator.

[big Lou]

I'm curious as well about this, as it is now time to replace my Ron Davis radiator.

What's wrong with it?

[LinuxRacr]

Fin rub from aftermarket fans caused a leak I think. rather than repair, I think a new one is in order, with a better fan setup.

[Speed3.5]

what "better" fan set up you got in mind ? what do you have now and how are they secured onto the rad ?

[GiJoe]

subbin

[LinuxRacr]

what "better" fan set up you got in mind ? what do you have now and how are they secured onto the rad ?

I think the problem is that I had a heavier than normal Spal with a big motor secured to the radiator.

[big Lou]

That might do it. How do you like your spal fans? I have yet to install mine.

[LinuxRacr]

I think when I replace my radiator this time, I will put some rubber lips around the fan's edges to keep it out of direct contact with the fins.

[MP3racer]

Here is a link to the announcement about the new radiator!!

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123765861

[CrazyCaker]

Awesome deal! Too bad I got a new project car now tho lol.

[MP3racer]

Did you try online stores for searching the radiator. This can be helpful http://www.macautoparts.net/Radiators-27286.aspx

Seems like a highly suspicious "thread jack"???? ;(

[fatti03msp]

i wouldnt worry about it, doubt they have a one made for the MSP since its not as wide as a P5/Protege one.

Plus im sure they are pretty cheap and not good quality.