HELP!!! Loud Scary Knocking Noise From Engine

[js_protege_03dx]

i need help my car jus started makin this scary knocking noise wen i was on my way home from school im thinkin it could be a rod bearing? or a rod? can any one help me?
i have a video of it also
that was at 2500 rpm
it starts at about 2000 rpm and stops about 2500 rpm
then it comes bak at 4000 rpm,
idk if it stops again or what cause im scared to even rev it up higher
any help/imput would be much appreciated!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoytslvIEZM

[TWISFM]

ya....... about that...

[yellow pro5]

lol check the heat shield someplace but something is vibrating thats not a rod knocking it would do it at all rpms have someone hold it at 2g rpms and go explore i bet its a vibration some place though

[boostdprotegelx]

lol check the heat shield someplace but something is vibrating thats not a rod knocking it would do it at all rpms have someone hold it at 2g rpms and go explore i bet its a vibration some place though

are you serious??

that's def rod knock. rod bearing bad maybe.. idk.. but.. that's the noise. not a vibration.

[dandan2]

stop driving that car NOW that is defenatly something to do with the rod! most likely a spun bearing. tow it to a shop now before u do more damage!

[yellow pro5]

well i dont know bc i have had rod knocking b4 in other cars and bearings go out and they never sounded like that...but i never had one of these engines make that noise so i just wanted to say what i thought oh well dont drive it then

[boostdprotegelx]

well i dont know bc i have had rod knocking b4 in other cars and bearings go out and they never sounded like that...but i never had one of these engines make that noise so i just wanted to say what i thought oh well dont drive it then

sorry. a vibration is a defined noise. much like rod knock. i've never heard it any different!

[js_protege_03dx]

stop driving that car NOW that is defenatly something to do with the rod! most likely a spun bearing. tow it to a shop now before u do more damage!
well i am planin on leavin school early to take it to a shop, i jus have to stay under 2k rpms and it wont knock, i hope it wont be too costly

[yellow pro5]

yeah my bad i have had rod knocking in other cars and it was more like a thud thud noise sorry for saying the wrong thing

[yellow pro5]

its for sure a clatter noise

[SeR_Cyclops]

That is deff rod knock! lol heat shield vibration!!! lol im sorry im not trying to be mean, but that is just funny.

[SeR_Cyclops]

well i am planin on leavin school early to take it to a shop, i jus have to stay under 2k rpms and it wont knock, i hope it wont be too costly

If your going to boost it in the future might as well buy forged rods and pistons!

[yellow pro5]

iam just saying that its a clatter sound so i voiced my opinion wasnt looking for smart ass comments back but oh well to each his own,,,,

[boostdprotegelx]

well i am planin on leavin school early to take it to a shop, i jus have to stay under 2k rpms and it wont knock, i hope it wont be too costly

it is possible for you to do this job yourself. it might help..

buy some OE bearings, drain the oil, take off the oil pan, and windage tray, and replace the bearings.. it might help you!

[boostdprotegelx]

iam just saying that its a clatter sound so i voiced my opinion wasnt looking for smart ass comments back but oh well to each his own,,,,

that's why i said sorry. i didn't mean to come off as a dick. that wasn't my intention.

[yellow pro5]

k lol

[js_protege_03dx]

it is possible for you to do this job yourself. it might help..

buy some OE bearings, drain the oil, take off the oil pan, and windage tray, and replace the bearings.. it might help you!
but the question is, is it the bearings or the rod?

[boostdprotegelx]

but the question is, is it the bearings or the rod?

well. by taking that stuff apart, you'll be able to see if it's bent or not.

..with that, you can decide what to do. having a shop check it out is going to tell you one thing.- you need a new motor. which MAY not be the case.

[SeR_Cyclops]

Lol that is the question. Man honestly if you have tools and some know how tear into the motor. see what the problems is. If it is the bearing the change it. Think about it, its not like you will mess up the motor by digging in to it. most shops will tell you to get a new engine anyways.

[P-Funk!]

A heat shield will 'buzz' at certain RPMs

Valves will clatter and get change as RPM changes (1/2 RPM)

Rods knock :( They clunk at low RPMS and sound like sneakers in the dryer.

[Thefriar]

rod knock will happen for the whole rpm range and should be there even @ idle, and will get louder as the eng. warms up and the oil thins so it doesnt really act like rod knock but it def doesnt sound good

[yellow pro5]

ok another thing is it a stick could it be the preasure plate or something i dont know just throwing out all ideas bc i knew it was too quite to be a rod knocking

[boostdprotegelx]

rod knock will happen for the whole rpm range and should be there even @ idle, and will get louder as the eng. warms up and the oil thins so it doesnt really act like rod knock but it def doesnt sound good

that's the beginning of rod knock.. his issue anyways. i GUARANTEE THAT IF HE KEEPS DRIVING, IT WILL BECOME EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING.

[yellow pro5]

oh well good luck on your trouble shooting iam sure these guys will steer you in the right direction to follow,,, hope its nothing to too major take care

[protege321]

that video was painful to listen to. that sucks man. what were you doing when it started making the noise?

[js_protege_03dx]

that video was painful to listen to. that sucks man. what were you doing when it started making the noise?
i know man i hate it!!! and i was supposed to be turboing it today :(
but i was jus pullin outa school parkin lot, got up to about 5k rpm b4 i shifted then it started!!

[protege321]

i know man i hate it!!! and i was supposed to be turboing it today :(
but i was jus pullin outa school parkin lot, got up to about 5k rpm b4 i shifted then it started!!

was the engine cold lol..

[js_protege_03dx]

was the engine cold lol..
haha no, i let my car warm up

[protege321]

oh lol, wells thats good. that sucks man, sorry to hear. what do you plan on doing?

[SCMP3]

well if you wanna tear into it i will come help. hopefully it is just a bearing. ive never done it but im not scared to tried.

[js_protege_03dx]

im not 100 percent sure but i think ima get another used motor, then turbo it :)

[protege321]

lol, sounds like a plan, im going turbo soon also. (2thumbs)

[boostdprotegelx]

im not 100 percent sure but i think ima get another used motor, then turbo it :)

dude. i'd at least pull the pan to check.. bearings are way cheaper.. than, purchase a used motor, and build it.. or a block anyways(i have a few laying around i could get you for cheap), and then turbo that..

[js_protege_03dx]

dude. i'd at least pull the pan to check.. bearings are way cheaper.. than, purchase a used motor, and build it.. or a block anyways(i have a few laying around i could get you for cheap), and then turbo that..
well even if it was the bearing, wont the the part where its connected to the crank shaft be worn as there is no bearing between the piston rod and that part of the crankshaft itself?

[js_protege_03dx]

lol, sounds like a plan, im going turbo soon also. (2thumbs)
sweet!! did u get a kit yet?

[protege321]

piecing my own together. check my sig for the build thread ;)

[js_protege_03dx]

piecing my own together. check my sig for the build thread ;)
NICE BRO, good luck with that
i cant wait to see it!! ( jus suscribed )

[boostdprotegelx]

well even if it was the bearing, wont the the part where its connected to the crank shaft be worn as there is no bearing between the piston rod and that part of the crankshaft itself?

it's not necessarily that there is NO bearing. the damage would be much worse.. but just that it scored the bearing.. the crank is forged. it'll take a bit more damage than the bearing would. without fucking it up.

[js_protege_03dx]

it's not necessarily that there is NO bearing. the damage would be much worse.. but just that it scored the bearing.. the crank is forged. it'll take a bit more damage than the bearing would. without fucking it up.
i was told by a mechanic that if i was to try and fix it, it would cost me alot more than a new motor would run me up cause i would have to pull the engine, get a crank rebuild kit rebuild tha crank and all this other shit..
am i being fed some BS?

[boostdprotegelx]

i was told by a mechanic that if i was to try and fix it, it would cost me alot more than a new motor would run me up cause i would have to pull the engine, get a crank rebuild kit rebuild tha crank and all this other shit..
am i being fed some BS?

it is a possibility. but how hard is it to take off the oil pan and windage tray to CHECK if the bearings can be replaced??

i know of MORE than 1 person that have just replaced bearings and went about their day.. car still runs fine..all they did was bearings, no rebuild kit.. i'm trying to save you money..

and it would be stupid to buy a used engine for like 500.00 when you're gonna build it. buy a complete block, and go from there. like i said, i have a few laying around that i could hook you up with.

[js_protege_03dx]

it is a possibility. but how hard is it to take off the oil pan and windage tray to CHECK if the bearings can be replaced??

i know of MORE than 1 person that have just replaced bearings and went about their day.. car still runs fine..all they did was bearings, no rebuild kit.. i'm trying to save you money..

and it would be stupid to buy a used engine for like 500.00 when you're gonna build it. buy a complete block, and go from there. like i said, i have a few laying around that i could hook you up with.
ok i am lookin for the cheapest yet the safest way out, so if i replace the bearings and then wait a few weeks or so, do u think it would be good to go ahead and turbo the car?

[boostdprotegelx]

ok i am lookin for the cheapest yet the safest way out, so if i replace the bearings and then wait a few weeks or so, do u think it would be good to go ahead and turbo the car?

honestly, no. i would think the motor has issues, i would go ahead and just do the bearings for it to run. ya know?? and do what i said, and get a block/crank and buy forged stuff and THEN turbo it.

[SCMP3]

i agree with this guy^^^ for you and me lol

[js_protege_03dx]

i c what ur sayin,but i was thinkin to go ahead and get the used motor and get it put in my car, then wait a month or so, then turbo that. while in the mean time, keep my old motor and forge and build that as it is goin to take a while for me to save up enough to go forged. i only make 7.75 an hour workin part time so it would take me a good while to go forged! whatcha think?

[boostdprotegelx]

i c what ur sayin,but i was thinkin to go ahead and get the used motor and get it put in my car, then wait a month or so, then turbo that. while in the mean time, keep my old motor and forge and build that as it is goin to take a while for me to save up enough to go forged. i only make 7.75 an hour workin part time so it would take me a good while to go forged! whatcha think?

well. honestly.. sounds ok. but it might be best, to at LEAST check your motor and see if you can replace just the bearings.. it should last a decent time. just dont kill it driving hard.

[Protege-Fiend]

you know whats hella fucked up mine dose the same thing only its 1000X louder and every time i push my gas the oil light comes on but when i release the gas pedal the oil light goes off and my car is just so loud the knock is any way its fucking horrendous, that's why i made the engine swap post but if i could fix this without swapping motors ill be more than happy for suggestions

[js_protege_03dx]

you know whats hella fucked up mine dose the same thing only its 1000X louder and every time i push my gas the oil light comes on but when i release the gas pedal the oil light goes off and my car is just so loud the knock is any way its fucking horrendous, that's why i made the engine swap post but if i could fix this without swapping motors ill be more than happy for suggestions
Well the alternative is, if u want to still use the same engine, u can take out the crank shaft and get it machined, then replace all the rod bearings. gettin a new engine is the cheapest way out
by time labor and the machining comes into play and parts, its goin to prob cost u alot more to do it that way
i would just get a new engine, and keep the old one and build it!! im talkin forged pistons!!!!!!!!! then drop that baby in!!

[js_protege_03dx]

Any one selling a good bottom end? i really need 1
thanks

[Protege-Fiend]

sounds good man but hears the deal with the new motor home boy wants me to pay $650 for the same year and same liters as my car only catch is(eekfu) the son of a bitch has 180k on it and my motor that when fucking clickity clank squealing sound had only 57k point blank but any way enough about small talk pimp i was just gunna say with a motor with that many miles on it if i forged the internals would it be a bad idea to boost it

[boostdprotegelx]

Any one selling a good bottom end? i really need 1
thanks

i have the bottom end out of the p5. i think it just spun a bearing cuz the crank turns pretty easily.. has a head on it too.

[js_protege_03dx]

well i need somethin that i can put in straight away when i recieve it, lol mine is has a spun rod bearing too. i need something that will be good to turbo also

[Protege-Fiend]

(deadhorse god why wont some one just answer my question I NEED THIS ASAP

[boostdprotegelx]

sounds good man but hears the deal with the new motor home boy wants me to pay $650 for the same year and same liters as my car only catch is(eekfu) the son of a bitch has 180k on it and my motor that when fucking clickity clank squealing sound had only 57k point blank but any way enough about small talk pimp i was just gunna say with a motor with that many miles on it if i forged the internals would it be a bad idea to boost it

no... too much. go on ebay. there's a bunch for like.. 550-700.00 for 50kmiles.

[Protege-Fiend]

well i dont have the option of ebay i live in flipping Alaska dude and this motor is in town its "sadly to say" the best deal in this gay state

[boostdprotegelx]

well i dont have the option of ebay i live in flipping Alaska dude and this motor is in town its "sadly to say" the best deal in this gay state

well. sorry dude. you asked for an answer, i gave it. ebay people should ship..

but. otherwise, if you can't find shit. then yes. buy it.

[js_protege_03dx]

if ur goin to turbo, then look for a decent motor to start with
if not then jus go with the 1 u lookin at in ur town and that would get u goin
just my $.02

[Protege-Fiend]

yea my bad dude deff not trying to be a dick to any one just a little pissy about seizing up a motor that had 57,000 miles on it and besides me 2 original owners, i just thought that if i took care of this high mileage motor and went with some forged internals it would run very well with or without a turbo

[Protege-Fiend]

i mean honestly can you really work with a motor with 180,000 miles on it?

[P-Funk!]

All halt. If money is that tight - please don't turbo the car. Do it right or don't do it. It will get waaay expensive fast. Search zoomzoomboom.

Save your money for a new car. Really. This you (from the future) talking!

[Protege-Fiend]

lol that was kinda funny but , the turbo was future thingy any way i paid for my motor today and its going in my babie on monday hopfully

[js_protege_03dx]

nice man, jus got mine to the shop today along with motor and turbo kit!! everything done for $800!!! will prob be ready by tues :) cant wait to get er goin again!!

[Maxx Mazda]

This just in: "You're FUCKED!"

[Protege-Fiend]

damn i wish there where more pople on this site from Alaska i wish there was like some sort of protege organization hear or something, but yea when u get that turbo on there pimp you should let me know how it goes, and just to let who ever else get on this thread know MONEY ISNT MUCH OF AN ISSUE ANY MORE(scratch)

[Protege-Fiend]

This just in: "You're FUCKED!"

dont be so mean player the motor is as good as out of my car any way

[protege321]

damn i wish there where more pople on this site from Alaska i wish there was like some sort of protege organization hear or something, but yea when u get that turbo on there pimp you should let me know how it goes, and just to let who ever else get on this thread know MONEY ISNT MUCH OF AN ISSUE ANY MORE(scratch)

your better off there than new mexico. (yes)

[cfprotege]

well...my car did this about three days ago as well. i was whippin it around town pretty good before it started clankin loudly when i was pullin in second at open throttle. shame on me for drivin like a lunatic all the time i know. but my next day off is wednesday and im gonna take a look at my bearings and hope to god thats what it is. ill be back on to give u guys the 411.

[js_protege_03dx]

that sucks, i just got my car back today and havin some issues with it now. ima post another thread 2morro about it.

[JC-MP5]

nice man, jus got mine to the shop today along with motor and turbo kit!! everything done for $800!!! will prob be ready by tues :) cant wait to get er goin again!!

A motor, turbo kit and installation all for $800? I doubt it...

Lets see a list of whats on the car.

[js_protege_03dx]

well after all the fluids and misc things, the total was about $1200 still not too bad

mods as of right now r
custom short ram intake
FMIC
hard pipes
MSP turbo, mani, ecu... stock setup
have boost, oil pressure, and air fuel ratio gauges but not hooked up as of right now
along with a halman's boost controller that is not hooked up either
have a joep FDC but not hooked up
Greddy type rs bov (Sounds Sweet!!)

[Protege-Fiend]

i did the same thing just high milage motor all together mine was is like 1300 and i pick it back up the 26th of this month(gah)

[cfprotege]

well i found a used motor from japan with under 50k on it!! i got it for 760 after tax. got it dropped for 600 after fluids n parts from this mechanic i bowl with who works at honda. after having to buy all three shot motor mounts which were about 450 total cost for my engine was about 1900. which i couldn't complain about at all considering the quality of the motor. she runs like a champ now. better than before especially with those new motor mounts. but hey now i know what rod knock sounds like so maybe i can catch it before it blows next time!! lol

[Protege-Fiend]

Guess whose back..back again knockings back only in my 2002 need rebuild need rebuild cant swap cuz im pretty tight on funds so any one down to help me rebuild

[js_protege_03dx]

really!!! damn man!! that sucks!!
u might as well get a forged motor from speed circuit or pg
then slap the turbo on there :) oh and get doc b's oil system toO!!!

[P-Funk!]

That does not make sense. Is it possible the knock is something else?

[black02p5]

well i found a used motor from japan with under 50k on it!! i got it for 760 after tax. got it dropped for 600 after fluids n parts from this mechanic i bowl with who works at honda. after having to buy all three shot motor mounts which were about 450 total cost for my engine was about 1900. which i couldn't complain about at all considering the quality of the motor. she runs like a champ now. better than before especially with those new motor mounts. but hey now i know what rod knock sounds like so maybe i can catch it before it blows next time!! lol


Where did you get the motor?

[P-Funk!]

damn i wish there where more pople on this site from Alaska i wish there was like some sort of protege organization hear or something, but yea when u get that turbo on there pimp you should let me know how it goes, and just to let who ever else get on this thread know MONEY ISNT MUCH OF AN ISSUE ANY MORE(scratch)
But you said...(lol)

Sorry. Truly. I do hope you get it worked out.