Random Protegé Talk

[ajkulish]

hey heres a thread, similar to what the what have u done to ur protege today thread has become. so noone can complain about things being off topic because there is none. enjoy!

thread rule: no talk of miatas or especially switching from a protege to a miata. follow this rule or gtfo :)

[IukekiniProtege]

I love random protege talk, i have a 1.8 ww000000, why is no one using this?

[prof15]

I love random protege talk, i have a 1.8 ww000000, why is no one using this?

^ How is your new build coming up?

[R-X-R]

I love random protege talk, i have a 1.8 ww000000, why is no one using this?

cuz there are too much vtec assholes.,.,

[Falango]

cuz there are too much vtec assholes.,.,

On a Mazda forum??? Very likely.

[IukekiniProtege]

cuz there are too much vtec assholes.,.,

say what? lol, anyways build is coming along, got new DE valve spring retainers on the way then the tear down begins, probably doing rod bearings and main bearings too, maybe new rings, time will tell.

[IukekiniProtege]

come on protege people random talk time, i like the protege badge from 01-03 over 99-00

[ajkulish]

im an 01 but i have the older one. its stupid. i wish i had the cool one. i may get a 323 f badge

[xJAZx]

the 01-03 ones are better, but a familia badge is the best

[Falango]

Was it not 02 when they changed to the newer badge?

[prof15]

im an 01 but i have the older one. its stupid. i wish i had the cool one. i may get a 323 f badge

My 01 also have the old badge too..I guess the new badge was 02-03 unless they started with the last 01 production.

[prof15]

I just did a quick search in cars.com and came up some pics from different protege's with old and new badge..so I was right about the late 2001 production having the new badge.

http://images.cars.com/supersized/DMI/194991/163.04.jpg
1999 LX old badge
http://images.cars.com/supersized/MDC/17/430817/6589218972.jpg
2001 LX with old badge
http://images.cars.com/supersized/DMI/195052/1701.05.jpg
2001 LX with new badge
http://images.cars.com/supersized/DMI/186842/9977.06.jpg
2002 DX with new badge

[IukekiniProtege]

oh shafted, high five on that, i just assumed that they switched the badge along with the face lift.

[ucMP3]

Debadged ftw. :)

Only drawback is all the "Nice EVO" comments. (zombies)

[GiJoe]

Found the dude to bore out my motor and rework my head. I'm excited.

[Falango]

Debadged ftw. :)

Only drawback is all the "Nice EVO" comments. (zombies)

Don't mind those ones. I've had one guy think it was a WRX, but at the same time, I've had "nice Civic" comments, from a guy that works at our Mazda store......... But yes, debadged is win!!!

[MSP2024]

i had that happen today, nice evo bro, i told him its a mazda and he said dude i know what an evo looks like so dont play it off haha

[ucMP3]

i had that happen today, nice evo bro, i told him its a mazda and he said dude i know what an evo looks like so dont play it off haha

haha. He's too on his game to get fooled by you. Pesky EVO owners...

[slavrenz]

I'm gonna go against the grain on this one - I liked the older badge better!

[Dparks7]

so funny story, me and by buddy were driving down a main street in buffalo. its a 3 lane street and we are in the far left, in the far right lane there is a riced to shit 91 integra. looked like a huge tool was driving it. so what me and my buddy do is try to get people to race us but we always acc. to teh speed limit and slow down. well this integra unknown to us was turboed with a gt40 and a k20 motor, needless to say i almost shit my pants when he took off and smoked through 3rd haha

[ucMP3]

*sleeper* How did you find out it was a k20 with a gt40 strapped to it?

[Dparks7]

even though he looked like a douche and we were messing with him, he put his hazards on and pulled into a parking lot so i followed. most actual tuners in buffalo are pretty chill and said he had never seen a protege that looked like mine with the charcole rims. he was running 9.5:1 compression and 23 psi of boost pushing like 430 to the wheels, but he was moddest in all of his "bragging"

[ucMP3]

K20 swap by itself would not be cheap. Add that gt40 and everything and he has put a pretty penny into that teggy.

[MSP2024]

haha. He's too on his game to get fooled by you. Pesky EVO owners...

haha bastard i thought forsure i was going to fool everyone, now i need to move.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s283/tech_022/l_f61a489bb3944f56a552a4350801cf3e.jpg
its funny when ever i cruise in this i always get stupid stuff like is that fast? is it turbo? nice lancer, are you sure its an evo? haha stupid ass people make me laugh cuz its wingless its not an evo anymore, but i still love my msp even more, even if i get nice evo or what the fuck is that comments
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s283/tech_022/car3.jpg

[prof15]

^ nice you also have an evo... What still don't get is how people can confuse a protege with other cars (evo, wrx, civic) lol. If they really know about cars they should be able to tell any car from one another regardless the mods.

[KZL_99ES]

thread approved! lol :p

anywho... so if i wanted to get a msp ecu, how much should one pay for it?

[xJAZx]

no more than 150, cause you can get yours reflashed for that price

[Dparks7]

ya he said he has a rsx that was toatled from the rear by a drunk driver so...engine was sorta free. he then bought the teggy as a beater with the insurance money and got board so turboed the crap outta it haha

[ucMP3]

^ nice you also have an evo... What still don't get is how people can confuse a protege with other cars (evo, wrx, civic) lol. If they really know about cars they should be able to tell any car from one another regardless the mods.

Thats why its usually a quick tip-off that they don't really know much about cars.

I have had cops actually argue with me that my car is not a Mazda, but is actually a Civic. Spent 45 min blocked in a parking lot because Cincinnati Police wanted to be assholes. "Will you just run the VIN already, please???"



ya he said he has a rsx that was toatled from the rear by a drunk driver so...engine was sorta free. he then bought the teggy as a beater with the insurance money and got board so turboed the crap outta it haha

Fair enough...

[lilpoindexter]

I like the old badge...

[MSP2024]

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s283/tech_022/bk.jpg
i love my toys haha

[prof15]

This video is not protege related but it involve a mazda, I founded randomly on youtube. The first version is not the complete video but it have audio with the reaction of the owner of the RX7, so I also posted the complete version since it shows all the carnage(Damage to the rx7)... by posting this I don't want to take the thread off topic but I just wanted to shared it.

Version with Audio
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complete version with no Audio
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[Muffie]

the rx7 took that better then i expected

[KZL_99ES]

i went to go visit ken and the guys at PG yesterday, watched them do a motor swap!

now that i'm done with visiting in the chicago area, i'm moving to Ohio today! hope my protege likes it there! lol

[03zoomzoom]

Ohio is a blast in a protege, esp the winters (if you like being sideways).


i went to go visit ken and the guys at PG yesterday, watched them do a motor swap!

now that i'm done with visiting in the chicago area, i'm moving to Ohio today! hope my protege likes it there! lol

[JC-MP5]

This video is not protege related but it involve a mazda, I founded randomly on youtube. The first version is not the complete video but it have audio with the reaction of the owner of the RX7, so I also posted the complete version since it shows all the carnage(Damage to the rx7)... by posting this I don't want to take the thread off topic but I just wanted to shared it.

Version with Audio
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complete version with no Audio
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As soon as the cops got there I'd be like... "OW MY NECK!"

I would have pummeled that guy.

[KZL_99ES]

I'm used to Wisconsin winters so I should be fine! Lol
but I am getting new tires very soon so that should definitely help.

[GiJoe]

yeah my internet is slow since it's wireless. so the only thing I thought for like th first 2 minutes of that video was: Angry hornet Angry hornet Angry hornet Stock, Angry hornet Angry hornet Angry hornet WITH spare tire.

[prof15]

the rx7 took that better then i expected
yeah I thought the front end would be destroyed like the car that rear ended him.

[ajkulish]

im so glad my thread is taking off

[prof15]

im so glad my thread is taking off

hey man so how do you like the front lip? are you getting side skirts and the rear bumper lip or you are just going to leave it like that?

[ajkulish]

i love the lip its great. and yeah im getting sides and maybe rear when i get the cash. i like the rear with hd lip on it.

and prof 15
dont worry, u cant take this thread off topic. thats the point.

[justanothermp5]

This video is not protege related but it involve a mazda, I founded randomly on youtube. The first version is not the complete video but it have audio with the reaction of the owner of the RX7, so I also posted the complete version since it shows all the carnage(Damage to the rx7)... by posting this I don't want to take the thread off topic but I just wanted to shared it.
VIDEO
VIDEO

lol that sucks for that dude but that guy at the end was funny as hell

"i got his whole shit man, i got the whole shit, i was looking right at his shit man"
lol u can tell u drives a honda

[ucMP3]

i love the lip its great. and yeah im getting sides and maybe rear when i get the cash. i like the rear with hd lip on it.

and prof 15
dont worry, u cant take this thread off topic. thats the point.

Definately get the rear lip.

[GiJoe]

Definately get the rear lip.

agreed. then some skirts. don't want you looking like a honda.

[IukekiniProtege]

i say side skirts, then rear lip, having and front and rear and no sides looks hideous

[ucMP3]

i say side skirts, then rear lip, having and front and rear and no sides looks hideous

Agreed. I say just save up $$ and get both at the same time. I think just the front lip even looks a bit awkward to be honest... You need a complete ground effects kit for it to look right.

[prof15]

How hard is to clean the engine bay? I already have the engine degreaser, but I want to make sure I do it right, and that I take all the precautions before I do it. I know I have to cover all the wires and electronic parts..but what else should I know?

[Falango]

Just don't spray water right on any electrical plugs, plug wires, or alternator for an extended period of time. Stick a rag in your intake as well if you have stock intake. Put a bag over your filter if you have an exposed filter. You only have to be alot more careful with distributors.

[xJAZx]

put a bag on the filter and spray whatever you want, ive never had a problem doing it that way

[prof15]

Thanks guys..I will probably clean it sometime this week, I will post pictures of the before and after.

[ucMP3]

Thanks guys..I will probably clean it sometime this week, I will post pictures of the before and after.

If you don't, there'll be hell to pay. ;)

[prof15]

If you don't, there'll be hell to pay. ;)

Dont worry I will...lol I haven't been able to clean it yet and I might have to put it off until next week or for when ever the weather allows since it have been raining the last few days and it looks like its going to remain the same until next week.

[prof15]

Check this out guys... 180mph on an auto pro stock?? I thought the Max speed for this cars was 120 or something like that..<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/uz0WWKLjQeU&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/uz0WWKLjQeU&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[Falango]

Look closer, that's 180KMH, not MPH. 180 is only about 115mph.

[ucMP3]

Look closer, that's 180KMH, not MPH. 180 is only about 115mph.

(first)

[03zoomzoom]

01-03 protege max speed is 148 mph. but, they are drag limited to around 135 mph.

[ucMP3]

01-03 protege max speed is 148 mph. but, they are drag limited to around 135 mph.

really? How long of a stretch would a stock protege need to get to 135? lol Even with mp3 ecu I think that would be difficult. (lol2)

[03zoomzoom]

well...since racing stories are not permitted... it takes it a good stretch of road. it is under a mile though. If you put the car on a lift the computer stops at 148mph.

[Dparks7]

it is under a mile. but your little engine works hard, its so cute humming like a freight train at full throttle

[KZL_99ES]

anyone know where i can get one of the km/h faceplates like the one in the video above?

[GiJoe]

uh Canada?

[GiJoe]

or anywhere else in the world that has Proteges.

[KZL_99ES]

i guess i'm looking for a part number then...anyone?

[Falango]

Lol, do you think you will be going faster because you see higher numbers.............

[ucMP3]

Why do you want a metric faceplate?

*edit I'm also guessing that it's illegal to have improper faceplates. Not sure on that tho.

[Falango]

Shouldn't be illegal. It still has mph on it. People here bring cars up from the US all the time. Don't have to change the gauge cluster.

[ucMP3]

Shouldn't be illegal. It still has mph on it. People here bring cars up from the US all the time. Don't have to change the gauge cluster.

Fair enough. Forgot it has the mph on it as well.

[KZL_99ES]

don't even get me started on why we should use the metric system!!!

trust me, i don't care about illegalness, you're not going to get caught for that.

[ucMP3]

Embrace standard measurements. This is Americahhh. (lol2)

[KZL_99ES]

we are the only country that does it this way and it makes no sense...



Lol, do you think you will be going faster because you see higher numbers.............

and yes i do :p

[ucMP3]

we are the only country that does it this way and it makes no sense...

Apparently you didn't catch my sarcasm. Hence the "lol" smiley.

[KZL_99ES]

no, i got it, lol... it's just a sensitive subject...*tear*

[Falango]

It's ok, you guys just want to be different that's all. Let's call it old fashioned.

To be honest though, how could you guys go through that in school?? So 12 inches to a foot, got it. Wait, so 12 feet doesn't equal a yard.........and 12 yards isn't a mile...........WTF?!? I'm moving to Canada!!!

[ucMP3]

It's ok, you guys just want to be different that's all. Let's call it old fashioned.

To be honest though, how could you guys go through that in school?? So 12 inches to a foot, got it. Wait, so 12 feet doesn't equal a yard.........and 12 yards isn't a mile...........WTF?!? I'm moving to Canada!!!

ya, since 10 decimeters = a meter and 10 meters equals a kilometer?? lol

sorry u missed a decimal place. multiply x10 :)

[prof15]

This is nice..After cleaning my engine bay today everything look fine the car started right away :cool:after it warm up I turn it off.. 10min later I went to turn it on again and it will start and then it dies..(dunno)

I will post pics of the engine bay later tonight since I am going for road ride..

[ajkulish]

does it die slowly or does it happen instantly? and look at the temp gauge. is it normal?

[prof15]

does it die slowly or does it happen instantly? and look at the temp gauge. is it normal?


It dies instantly, I tried again today and still the same. I don't know what to do now since I am trying to figure out where the ignition is located but the diagram don't show where it is.

[justanothermp5]

by cleaning the engine bay, what exactly do you mean? like with water?

[prof15]

Well started cleaning it with degreaser and a rag.. and later I sprayed water to remove the remaining dirt. Well I first though it was the starter...but after a few intents the car starts and the engine runs for a little and then it dies.. so it mean that the starter and ignition system are working. So I need to find out what else could have been affected..

[prof15]

Here is a video I recorded early tonight of one of the instances that the car turned on..
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[Falango]

Get a CEL or does the car stuttuer and struggle before it dies? We always spray down engine bays to clean them and have never had problems getting the vehicles started again.

[justanothermp5]

yea u got some water in there somewhere
stop starting it and take out the spark plug boots and check for water, if thats not it then idk what it is

[xJAZx]

what kind of intake do you have, that could be how water got in there

[prof15]

yea u got some water in there somewhere
stop starting it and take out the spark plug boots and check for water, if thats not it then idk what it is

Probably I do have water somewhere in there..but I checked the spark plugs boots for water and there is none..


Get a CEL or does the car stuttuer and struggle before it dies? We always spray down engine bays to clean them and have never had problems getting the vehicles started again.

It does stutter when it tries to start.


what kind of intake do you have, that could be how water got in there

I have the stock intake..I have checked the intake there is no water in there..I also sprayed electronic cleaner on the MAF sensor just in case.


Do you guys have any suggestions of what should I do or what to check??

[xJAZx]

Probably I do have water somewhere in there..but I checked the spark plugs boots for water and there is none..

water would be on the pistons if it got in the engine not on the boots, take the coils and plugs out and look in to see if there is water

[prof15]

When I said I checked the boots..I actually removed the coils and looked inside of water and they were dry.

[prof15]

Ok..I gave up and had the car towed to a shop since I don't have the time to fix it my self.

[Falango]

That sounds terrible. Quality is kinda crappy, but I'm wondering if the water has already done the damage and passed through somehow. My first assumption would have been water soaked plug wires. That would have been the first thing I would have changed.

I know you said you checked your intake, but pull the filter and look closely to see if there's water stains on it. You'd probably have some if water went through there. It would mud up a bit with the dust and dirt that's already collected on the filter.

It's hard to tell from the video if it's firing on all cylinders. Even if it's just firing on 3 cylinders, it shouldn't really have trouble starting. I'm afraid it may be much worse than that now. Though if you did some bottom end damage, I'd think there would still be atleast some water on the pistons.

[prof15]

I just got of the phone with my mechanic and he told me the problem is the MAF sensor after he computer got a code saying there is no signal from that sensor. So I am going to have him replaced it with a used that a friend of his is selling for $150. I am relief it wasn't something worst but still...

I know water did not get through filter since I removed the filter and it was dry and the filter box didn't have signs of water..I guess water managed its way into the maf sensor circuit because I sprayed electronic cleaner on the sensor and its connectors but not on the internals of the sensor.

[ucMP3]

I guess water managed its way into the maf sensor circuit because I sprayed electronic cleaner on the sensor and its connectors but not on the internals of the sensor.

Electronic cleaner, you mean a can of compressed air? I don't see how using that would have changed the fact, either before or after water got into the MAF.

[Falango]

Well atleast that's all it is.

[prof15]

Electronic cleaner, you mean a can of compressed air? I don't see how using that would have changed the fact, either before or after water got into the MAF.

No Electronic cleaner, its the spray they selll to clean circuit boards, cable and other components. The air can is different.

[prof15]

The car is up and running again..I picked it up from the mechanic this morning. Every thing is back to normal..thanks for all the suggestions. Lesson learned and hopefully this should never happen again...

Here is a pic of the engine bay..the valve cover have some stains that I couldn't remove and heat shield have some rust so I am thinking on painting it but don't know what color.
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[ajkulish]

hey will this fit the 2001 protege ? it says 1995 996 but it looks close
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-96-Protege-clear-CORNER-TURN-SIGNAL-LIGHT-NEW-RH_W0QQitemZ270468144664QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_ Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3ef9285e18

[ucMP3]

hey will this fit the 2001 protege ? it says 1995 996 but it looks close

The 99-03 Headlights were all 1-piece, were they not?

If this is the case, I would say no...

[Falango]

Nope, won't fit. Hint, you answered your own question with the year range..........

3rd gen headlights are all one piece. If you want a clear corner, you have to crack open the light and remove the amber lens, or replace it with a clear one.

[xJAZx]

99-00 ones are two piece

[xDJ DUBx]

yeah, not all 3rd gens are one piece, 99-00 have the ugo lights :D

[xJAZx]

greg whats up with your drivers side headlight in your sig picture?

[ucMP3]

His LX has a lazy eye. (lol2)

[xDJ DUBx]

greg whats up with your drivers side headlight in your sig picture?

Wha?

[CantCMe]

Anybody have a 2000 Protege (auto) ECU they wanna sell?

[xDJ DUBx]

I have a 2003 auto ecu...

[CantCMe]

Not sure if it would work though...'00 LX is 1.8 correct?

[xJAZx]

Wha?

it looks messed up

[xDJ DUBx]

Not sure if it would work though...'00 LX is 1.8 correct?

Not sure, the 1.8 looks just like the 2.0, but the 1.8 doesn't have coil packs on top of cylinder 2 and 4


it looks messed up

I guess you mean the reflection off the plastic?

[xJAZx]

I guess you mean the reflection off the plastic?

im guessing thats what it is

[CantCMe]

Not sure, the 1.8 looks just like the 2.0, but the 1.8 doesn't have coil packs on top of cylinder 2 and 4


Yup...the 1.8 does not have the coil packs, but the '00 is a 1.8.

[Falango]

yeah, not all 3rd gens are one piece, 99-00 have the ugo lights :D

Sorry, I meant the revised 3rd gens, lol.

[ajkulish]

for that piece on ebay, i thought it was only the reflector

[ucMP3]

for that piece on ebay, i thought it was only the reflector

Come again?

[CantCMe]

I can't believe Mazda wants $8.60 per wheel stud!! Lawd have mercy!!

[xDJ DUBx]

Come again?

Those older protege side markers he posted a page or two back...

[ucMP3]

Those older protege side markers he posted a page or two back...

Ajkulish: lol, if you make a post concerning a prior post from 1-2 weeks ago. You should probably provide some background of wtf you're talking about, or just quote it. (first)

[ajkulish]

it was yesterday or two days ago

[ucMP3]

Use the quote function. :)

[ajkulish]

okay.

[ajkulish]

does the p5 rear lip fit the sedan?

[justanothermp5]

there is no p5 rear lip...

[ucMP3]

P5 has differnet rear bumper with the rear valence piece on it.

[roader]

Hey fellows, I'm roader.
I'm kind of having some rough time looking for some parts for my 03.5 msp
Can you mention some options for oem parts?

[roader]

More specifically, an internet shop... I'm looking for some outer parts...

[ucMP3]

RockAuto.com

Good OEM parts website.

[cplagge]

I installed one of those OBX headers in my 99 1.8, and it destroyed my o2 sensor. Constantly CEL, and possible limp mode. :(

[GiJoe]

More specifically, an internet shop... I'm looking for some outer parts...

Protegegarage.com, and I think *************.com sells some exterior parts.

[ucMP3]

I installed one of those OBX headers in my 99 1.8, and it destroyed my o2 sensor. Constantly CEL, and possible limp mode. :(

Why did you think it wouldn't? Any/all aftermarket exhaust manifolds/headers that change emmisions systems (removing primary cat) will throw a CEL. You have to fix the CEL by tricking the ECU.

[cplagge]

Why did you think it wouldn't? Any/all aftermarket exhaust manifolds/headers that change emmisions systems (removing primary cat) will throw a CEL. You have to fix the CEL by tricking the ECU.



No, i mean the header was a lemon, it shoved the 02 sensor right into the slave cylinder, and melted my o2 sensor. I know that by removing a cat, that the o2 sensor will freak out... but now i dont have a functioning top o2 sensor at all!

[ucMP3]

Post pics. I don't get what you're talking about. I have an OBX header and the O2 bungs don't interfere with the slave cylinder at all.

[cplagge]

THe brow thing is a bit of cardboard I put on there to prevent shorting out.


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/cplagge/IMG_0225.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/cplagge/IMG_0227.jpg

[ucMP3]

Lets pursue this in 1 thread. We're talking about this in 2, lol. :)

[cplagge]

It will no longer be pursued in this thread, just the other one :p

[ajkulish]

how much hp should i expect from an intake, obx header, and 2.25 inch catback exhaust? 10-15?

[ucMP3]

how much hp should i expect from an intake, obx header, and 2.25 inch catback exhaust? 10-15?

Proabably ~5whp

fs-de does not respond significantly to bolt-ons.

[xJAZx]

And most of the power gained will be from the header

[ucMP3]

And most of the power gained will be from the header

Ya, virtually all of it. Removing the primary cat is the main change.

[xDJ DUBx]

Proabably ~5whp

fs-de does not respond significantly to bolt-ons.

Truth! Turbo or go home.

[ajkulish]

i made an agreement with my dad. if i keep over a 4.0 gpa for the rest of high school he will pay for me to go forged, and if get a big scholarship, i get turbo.

[xJAZx]

over an A average?

[IukekiniProtege]

some high schools weight AP classes, and honors classes differently allowing for 4.25 - 4.5GPAs

[xDJ DUBx]

i made an agreement with my dad. if i keep over a 4.0 gpa for the rest of high school he will pay for me to go forged, and if get a big scholarship, i get turbo.

Please please PLEASE, do your hw before this gets serious.

[justanothermp5]

^+1 dont just say, im going forged, and im going turbo

there is a ton more involved, not saying you didnt already know that, just pointing some things out

plus what if u get a 4.0 but dont get the scholarship? then u have a forged NA engine which = worthless amount of money spent lol

so think about it first, just get a job and save up, im only 18 and i already got all my shit together from working 35 hours a week as a senior in high school
its not hard u just have to want it

[Falango]

Agreed, money can buy the toys, but smarts is what makes them last, and I don't mean booksmart in school yo.

[ajkulish]

4.0 wont be hard i have ap and hoors classes. and i go to the best private school in nw ohio so if i keep over a 3.5 i have an 85% chance at a full ride to anywhere i apply to.

[ajkulish]

ps at my school all a+'s are a 4.2 gpa. with ap and honors classes you can get up to a 5.5500

[zoomzoom02]

I'm starting to get sad because my car is finally starting to wear out. Paint is starting to fade, steering wheel is cracking, seats are wearing out...I bought it with 7 miles on it at the end of 2001...I need a new car.

[ucMP3]

Pay for Private school now = free college later. Stupid system.

[xDJ DUBx]

The whole system is stupid, we're so fucked. (lol2)

[xJAZx]

wow ap and honors classes are weighted like crazy at your school. and i 3.5 wont get you a full ride many places now

[ucMP3]

wow ap and honors classes are weighted like crazy at your school. and i 3.5 wont get you a full ride many places now

It has to do with the school. Not just the GPA. Thats the benefit of paying to send your kid to a private school. Colleges hand money out to graduates of private schools like no other.

[ajkulish]

yeah my tution next year will be 10000$

[ajkulish]

and of all local schools in nw ohio, we recieve the most scholarships to college. last year 230 guys were given a total of 17000000$

[xJAZx]

thats crazy, i just did good in school here and got a full ride for college

[peroyblanco]

hey ppl i just picked up a 02 protege from my cousin but with no engine. im making it a daily driver but i dont kno absolutley anything about it any help on what engine comes with it??

[xJAZx]

hey ppl i just picked up a 02 protege from my cousin but with no engine. im making it a daily driver but i dont kno absolutley anything about it any help on what engine comes with it??

FSDE is the engine your looking for

[peroyblanco]

FSDE is the engine your looking for

thanks does this forum have any type of "engine for sell" thread and, whats the price range on those engines??

[xJAZx]

theres a for sale thread, your best bet would be local junk yards though

[peroyblanco]

theres a for sale thread, your best bet would be local junk yards though

any other engines thats basically like a plug in play to that car??so i can run the same ecu same wire harness with no check engine lights and that the tranny bolts right up??

[xJAZx]

just the fsde from the 01+ proteges

[justanothermp5]

you can use a 2.0 from a mx6 (not sure what year) and a 2.0 from a 626 ((01 and up i believe)

there are some differences in them though but the block and head is the same, just some other small stuff is different

[xJAZx]

you can use a 2.0 from a mx6 (not sure what year) and a 2.0 from a 626 ((01 and up i believe)

there are some differences in them though but the block and head is the same, just some other small stuff is different


any other engines thats basically like a plug in play to that car??so i can run the same ecu same wire harness with no check engine lights and that the tranny bolts right up??

the ones from the mx6 and 626 arent so much plug and play im pretty sure

[ucMP3]

the ones from the mx6 and 626 arent so much plug and play im pretty sure

From what I've read, theres a considerable amount of work to put a 626 motor in the pro. MX-6 is even more so I believe. Almost everything aside from the block/head are different, IIRC.

[Falango]

yeah my tution next year will be 10000$

Lucky!!! Wanna switch??

[ajkulish]

haha how much do u pay?

[justanothermp5]

From what I've read, theres a considerable amount of work to put a 626 motor in the pro. MX-6 is even more so I believe. Almost everything aside from the block/head are different, IIRC.

why would you use anything else from the mx6 or 626
you just need the block, everything else from the protege bolts up to that block

and there isnt any work needed to get the motors to fit so im not sure what your talking about

the V6 needs a ton of work but the 2.0's are the EXACT SAME engine as what the protege's have

[xJAZx]

why would you use anything else from the mx6 or 626
you just need the block, everything else from the protege bolts up to that block

and there isnt any work needed to get the motors to fit so im not sure what your talking about

the V6 needs a ton of work but the 2.0's are the EXACT SAME engine as what the protege's have

there is a thread about it somewhere, the motors not from the protege wont be plug and play, missing a few things (cam hole sensor is one of them) and some of the wiring is different

[justanothermp5]

cam hole sensor is in the head (valve cover) , which you will be reusing from your protege

wiring is going to be from your protege

but there is ONE thing that i heard wont work and its that there isnt a hole for the knock sensor in the other blocks
but you can always find another place to put it in the block

everything else is the same since your just using the block, and NOT the head, wiring, valve cover, trans, etc.

[ajkulish]

anybody know if someone makes yellow fog covers for the stock protege

[xJAZx]

anybody know if someone makes yellow fog covers for the stock protege

you can buy yellow tint and do them yourself, not sure where to get it from but my friend does them

[ajkulish]

i was just worried because i have 100w fogs and i dont want to melt it.

[xDJ DUBx]

Hids would eliminate that problem :)

[ajkulish]

yeah yeah but i love my 100s. theyre sweeet.

[Falango]

haha how much do u pay?

$22000 a year.

[ajkulish]

is there any way i can just dye them?

[Falango]

Just go buy yellow overlay film and do it yourself.

[ajkulish]

where can i get it?

[Falango]

eBay, or order something from BlueBatmobile in the color ya want, and cut it to size after applying. I don't think he has overlays for thise fogs, but anything will do.

[J_Naoto]

eBay, or order something from BlueBatmobile in the color ya want, and cut it to size after applying. I don't think he has overlays for thise fogs, but anything will do.

+1, that's what i did. i believe i ordered mine from decalfx.com

[Falango]

I got some headlight and taillight overlays from BlueBatmobile. Taillight ones were absolutely perfect. Perfect size (no trimming needed) and perfect color match. You can't even tell that the overlay only covers the clear part of the lens!! The headlight ones were very tough becaues of the curvature of the headlight. The matieral is easy to work with, but I didn't have any experience with it, so the headlights didn't get the film.

[ajkulish]

hmm. okay, well how much did it cost.

[Falango]

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/BlueBatmobile2005/

Prices are there. Since I don't think he makes overlays for those fog lights, I'd say find the cheapest overlay in the color ya want, as long as it will cover the light.

[R-X-R]

People, I have a question for u all.

My assholes Co-workers always argue with me that a Protege is a Ford Focus/Contour. Seriously is there anything common in any of the cars?

[KZL_99ES]

not that i know of, esp with the 3 gen protege's

but the earlier protege's were basically the same as the ford escort.

[Protege03ak46]

I really want to do a big brake set up, but i want to do it on a budget. So I was thinking I could go to the junk yard and pull it from another car, and see if they fit. Any body know what I should look for?

[xDJ DUBx]

There is a big brake kit upgrade thread on here. MSP, Mz6 and MS6 all fit.

Edit: I actually think you don't have any options, due to 4 lug...

[Protege03ak46]

so i couldnt just swap out any 4 lug? because ide be willing to bet i could find larger rotors, cheaper if its from a honda or something, compared to our cars

[xDJ DUBx]

I don't think your problem would be the rotors, it would be the caliper and how it bolts up. I mean, you could try it if you felt like gambling the money, but I've never heard of cheap big brake kit setups for 4lugs that are direct swap.

[Protege03ak46]

Well I know I NEED new rotors. Mine are warped to shit (Seattle ran). But I figured I might upgrade. I was thinking of picking up some Stoptech or EBC drilled/slotted rotors. But I figured maybe theres a cheaper solution. Guess not

[ajkulish]

drilled and slotted rotors wont make a big difference in street driving.

[xDJ DUBx]

Yea, he's actually right. If you don't have an upgraded caliper/rotor combo, drilled and slotted is just looks. New rotors and good pads will due just fine.

[Protege03ak46]

Any recommendations on pads?
im looking to get this all done with Corksport. I get free shiping :D

[ajkulish]

idk maybe green stuff? but if not on corksport look for some high performance ceramic pads at autozone. thats wht i did and i love mine.

[IukekiniProtege]

Hawk HPS pads FTW. What year is your car i thought u had a 03? did they still have the 4-lug then? I know for the 99-00 1.6(DX/LX) you can upgrade to the 99-00 ES brakes. This gives you a 10.1" rotor from the stock 9.2" rotor, and then the calipers change to the same one as the 01-03 2.0 5-lug cars.

[Protege03ak46]

ya, i have an 03

[xDJ DUBx]

Only 5lug proteges in the 01-03 bracket are mp3s, msps, p5s and ess. All dx and lx were still 4 lug.

[IukekiniProtege]

oh wow, i figured after the 1.6 went away they would have stopped the 4-lug as well.

[xDJ DUBx]

Yeah, I know. I swapped out the 4lug fail.

It wasn't until they produced the 3, that all models across the board had 5 lug.

[IukekiniProtege]

got ya, just something I never really paid attention to being stuck in 99-00 land. Did your calipers look like the 5-lug calipers? or were they smaller? If they were smaller they would be the same as the 1.6l 99-00 and means the 01-03 4-lug guys should be able to swap to the the 99-00 ES 1.8l front brakes.

[Falango]

The Hawk street pads are nice, but put out LOTS of brake dust, and fast. 2 days after a wash, my wheels were covered already.

[IukekiniProtege]

oh really? strange I get about the same amount of dust as the cheapy autoparts store pads put out.

[R-X-R]

a question:

do u think a H1 bulb is going to fit on OEM fog lamp?i know it is H3 bulb sized. cuz my H3 HID is a tight fit and is pushing the reflector that goes on the front of the bulb sidewise so my light is shooting eveywhere,.,. any solution?

[JM1Protege]

i have H3 hids and what i ended up doing was taking a screw driver and pushing the little reflector thingy forward a wee bit and then my problem was solved

[ajkulish]

do you still throw massive amounts of scattered light

[Protege03ak46]

Im thinking of going to 4 lug rear disc brakes. I think i got it down on how it will be done

thoughts?

[xDJ DUBx]

What parts are you gonna attempt to use?

[ajkulish]

what do you have now

[CantCMe]

Just started the Pro...sounded soo good!

Just wanted to share :)

[Protege03ak46]

What parts are you gonna attempt to use?

From 5lug car:
-lateral links
-spindles
-calipers
-hand brake
-rear sub frame

custom/stock
-custom spindle shaft
-stock drum hub
-4 lug disc.

[R-X-R]

i have h3 hids and what i ended up doing was taking a screw driver and pushing the little reflector thingy forward a wee bit and then my problem was solved

thats what i did but the light is reflecting the opposite side of the road lol.,.,.

[ajkulish]

so i have the oem liscense plate mount on the front of my car, and i dont like the look of it. does anyone have any ideas of where to mount it? we have to have it displayed on the front of the car in ohio

[xDJ DUBx]

A jdm license plate would take away a lot of the bulkiness

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr131/xDJ_DUBx/03%20lx%20exterior/DSC01090.jpg

[Protege03ak46]

ive been looking for one of those. were'd you get it?

[xDJ DUBx]

I got it from 808mp5 cause he use to supply them but I don't think he has anymore.

Here ya go
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jdm-Adjustable-License-Plate-Holder-Honda-nissan-mazda_W0QQitemZ200432089276QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2eaaaef8bc

Thats the same exact thing I got.

[Stickman]

Falango & IUK,
per brake pad comments-
Hawk HPS semi met or Ceramic?
If HPS, would you go to Cer next time?
Is the dust worth the increased stopping power?
Thanks.
S

[Protege03ak46]

I got it from 808mp5 cause he use to supply them but I don't think he has anymore.

Here ya go
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jdm-Adjustable-License-Plate-Holder-Honda-nissan-mazda_W0QQitemZ200432089276QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2eaaaef8bc (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campid=5336012636&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Febaymotors%2FJdm-Adjustable-License-Plate-Holder-Honda-nissan-mazda_W0QQitemZ200432089276QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories%3Fhash%3Ditem2eaaae f8bc)

Thats the same exact thing I got.

thanks :)

saved till next paycheck. lol.

[ajkulish]

i like it. birthday friday. so im making up lists and this is is deffinitely on it,

[ajkulish]

dub could you put up a pic head on?

[xDJ DUBx]

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr131/xDJ_DUBx/03%20lx%20exterior/DSC02789.jpg
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr131/xDJ_DUBx/03%20lx%20exterior/DSC02791.jpg

[ajkulish]

i like it

[Protege03ak46]

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr131/xDJ_DUBx/03%20lx%20exterior/DSC02789.jpg
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr131/xDJ_DUBx/03%20lx%20exterior/DSC02791.jpg

You need to keep those things on!! They were awesome. You should get some new shots when it's not so gloomy, brighten it up a bit!

[xDJ DUBx]

Keep what things on? lol.

[Protege03ak46]

Arnt those the pics you took with thoes wheels you went to LV to go get? The smaller ones that made you look mega dumped.

[xDJ DUBx]

Thats what I thought u were talking about, but the wheels don't even show in the pic. haha

I also lowered the front like a half inch too so the wheels didn't magically make it look lower lol

[Protege03ak46]

Oh. Well I like it, get new pics mang :D

[ajkulish]

does anyone know the a/r of the stock t25 turbo on the exit side?

[xDJ DUBx]

The what?

[ajkulish]

A/r for the compressor side

[xJAZx]

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/catelog/Turbochargers/GT25/GT2554R_471171_3.htm


google works wonders :)

[R-X-R]

am i going to ruin the post cat if i install aftermarket headers with the stock exhaust?

[justanothermp5]

you shouldnt, i was had headers, stock cat, and then catback
sounded nice and the cat still works as far as i know, i wasnt getting any funky smells so i assumed it was still working

[R-X-R]

sounds good. wut catback did u use? have u tried with headers and stock exhaust? if yes how was it?

[protegericky]

random protege talk eh..
my front and rear bumper are faded
maybe later this year a re-paint????

[TheMazda]

Random Protege talk?? Sure I will jump aboard.

So I bought my side skirts and rear lip yesterday. All the parts for my MP3 are here. Just need to pic a color. I like the black mica, but its so hard to keep clean and in good condition... What color would look good on an MP3? Doesn't have to be a Mazda color.. I am kinda thinking dark purple??

[justanothermp5]

sounds good. wut catback did u use? have u tried with headers and stock exhaust? if yes how was it?

megan racing catback, and no i havent tried headers with stock exhaust

[ajkulish]

does anybody know the thread size for the oil pressure sender needs to be. its mechanical not electric and i need to know what size it is so i can finally hook up my guages

[Sleezer1533]

Sub

[R-X-R]

can anyone make sure this fits an ES
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findWheelDetail.do?bp=5-100&yr=2003&pc=47180&counter=3&wd=18&rw=7.5&vid=008077

[ajkulish]

does anybody know the thread size for the oil pressure sender needs to be. its mechanical not electric and i need to know what size it is so i can finally hook up my guages

anybody? come on. someone has to know. if youve put in guages you should know.

[95blkprobe]

i have a question for you protege guys. im building my probe (fsde) and i was planning on using the 1.8 block and bore it and destroke it to use all forged 2.0 internals with a 2.0 head. it will be aided with megasquirt, colt cams, headwork and im shooting for 14 psi of boost tops. now will this head and block bolt together? what headgasket do I then use? any cosmetic gaskets? also any comments on this build?
thanks ahead of time

[R-X-R]

does anyone know how much sp.ft of sounddeadning product it take to fully cover a protege? i mean four doors,floor,trunk, b pillars, posibly roof. do u have any particular brand for suggesion? i have heard DIY homedepot stuffs.

[ajkulish]

i have a question for you protege guys. im building my probe (fsde) and i was planning on using the 1.8 block and bore it and destroke it to use all forged 2.0 internals with a 2.0 head. it will be aided with megasquirt, colt cams, headwork and im shooting for 14 psi of boost tops. now will this head and block bolt together? what headgasket do I then use? any cosmetic gaskets? also any comments on this build?
thanks ahead of time

if it is still the fs de and the only difference between the 1.8 and 2.0 is the chamber size then yes it should fit.

[ajkulish]

does anyone know how much sp.ft of sounddeadning product it take to fully cover a protege? i mean four doors,floor,trunk, b pillars, posibly roof. do u have any particular brand for suggesion? i have heard DIY homedepot stuffs.

the actual sound deadener is expensive. ive heard of a friend doing it to just his trunk, and it cost like 80$. i would go home depot

[R-X-R]

ya i know, i hope 100sq ft is enough

[bikingpro5]

does anyone know how much sp.ft of sounddeadning product it take to fully cover a protege? i mean four doors,floor,trunk, b pillars, posibly roof. do u have any particular brand for suggesion? i have heard DIY homedepot stuffs.


ya i know, i hope 100sq ft is enough

I bought 100sq ft of Fat Mat from a dealer in Canada. Did all 4 doors outside skin, and inside. floor, roof, pillars, and rear hatch of my Protege5. depending how many layers you do, or if you add anything else you might need a bit more. As i already had some in car from a previous stereo install.

[R-X-R]

did it make any diff? i was thinking of getting the fatmat too.

[ajkulish]

im so sick of people calling me rice.the only rice thing about my car is the interior leds and my body kit. just because i have a few rice pieces doesnt make me a ricer. every other part i have is legitimate or due to my cash situation. i do a lot of do it yourself things because i dont have cash to spend like everybody else. just because my body kit does not roll with the body lines perfectly does not make it rice. in fact, the MOTM winner from a couple months ago had the same side skirts as me. i actually kind of like my rear lip, but yes i am modifying it. why does everyone consider my kit rice with all of the other rice kits out there that others on this forum use? boostedprotege, i love your car and you get no shit for your kit. theres nothing wrong with it. but if i go through a checklist it matches everything that should make it rice, yet for some reason it is not? justanothermp5s headliner and shift boot are retarded but he gets no shit for that. i understand he is respected for what he has done under the hood, but still. just because i dont have msp sides, an msp front or sedan front lip, and a msp rear lip does not mean i should be considered a ricer whose car is made fun of all the time. just because i dont do what you all want me to do does not make it right to make fun of me. just because i dont have the same exact taste as the rest of you, that doesnt make me deserve to get discriminated against. im just asking for some respect as a fellow protege driver and proud mazda owner who is dipping his toe into some different water. i would appreciate if you would all lay off of making fun of me because it doesnt affect my decisions with what i do to my car. it just annoys me. so please just show me some respect.

i just needed to say it somewhere because it has been bugging me for a while.

anyway, what thread do i need for my oil pressure and oil temperature gauges? come on some one must have installed gauges on here!

[xJAZx]

http://thunkdifferent.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/normal_internet-seriousbusiness.jpg

thread for the senders? what type of gauges?

[ajkulish]

mecahanical sunpros.

[xJAZx]

from what i see it looks like 1/8 NPT

[ajkulish]

And is that the size of the thread on these or the thread for the stock warning light sender?