yudkib
09-13-2009, 09:43 PM
so i bought my MSP about 6 mo ago (love it), and only now finally have a chance to fix the mess of wires laying around the car. I think i got all the leftover AV cables (guy just pulled a cut-and-run) and am on to fixing up the security.
how bad was it? i cut a couple zip ties and had the power supply, battery, main unit, and shock sensor fall out of the dashboard. i think i have all of them sorted out, but have a few questions before i start putting everything back together.
Question 1: Security Harness
the 18 pin harness left of the steering column... i assume it went to the old security unit. half of the wires are cut, just trying to figure out where the others go. fill in the blanks for me...
4 black wires (assuming all are grounds)
black/white (+12v)
the mostly-red with green (not the lock/unlock. appears to go to HL switch?)
the mostly green with red (lock/unlock)
forest green (goes maybe to flasher control unit?)
orange (appears to be factory connected to ignition?)
brown (parking lights? i forgot what i traced it to)
and this thin brown one which goes to a mystery button mounted inside the dashboard. (maybe a manual shutoff?)
i have the service manual but it doesnt seem like it has the correct pinout. and is it going to be an issue if i just slice the harness off?
Question 2: Remote Start
It seems like the neutral safety control wire is just connected to a common ground. i'm assuming this is really stupid, but will it work just to make sure the remote start works? (i would fix it after)
And I looked at the guide for the clutch bypass relay, mine is connected differently. i couldnt get the best look at the numbers for the terminals, but it looked like...
86 -> DEI (blue -)
30 -> 85
85 -> clutch cut (blue/black)
87 -> clutch cut (black/yellow)
the diagram in the wiring guide does not look like that, but id rather not start running more wires. any advice?
Question 3: Door switch?
this just started today, and i don't know what would cause it. the power / ground from the alarm is disconnected right now as a reference. when all doors are closed, the "door open" indicator glows very dimly. when i open a door, it lights up as normal. misaligned door switch? no power to the alarm?
thanks in advance for all the advice
-bryan
how bad was it? i cut a couple zip ties and had the power supply, battery, main unit, and shock sensor fall out of the dashboard. i think i have all of them sorted out, but have a few questions before i start putting everything back together.
Question 1: Security Harness
the 18 pin harness left of the steering column... i assume it went to the old security unit. half of the wires are cut, just trying to figure out where the others go. fill in the blanks for me...
4 black wires (assuming all are grounds)
black/white (+12v)
the mostly-red with green (not the lock/unlock. appears to go to HL switch?)
the mostly green with red (lock/unlock)
forest green (goes maybe to flasher control unit?)
orange (appears to be factory connected to ignition?)
brown (parking lights? i forgot what i traced it to)
and this thin brown one which goes to a mystery button mounted inside the dashboard. (maybe a manual shutoff?)
i have the service manual but it doesnt seem like it has the correct pinout. and is it going to be an issue if i just slice the harness off?
Question 2: Remote Start
It seems like the neutral safety control wire is just connected to a common ground. i'm assuming this is really stupid, but will it work just to make sure the remote start works? (i would fix it after)
And I looked at the guide for the clutch bypass relay, mine is connected differently. i couldnt get the best look at the numbers for the terminals, but it looked like...
86 -> DEI (blue -)
30 -> 85
85 -> clutch cut (blue/black)
87 -> clutch cut (black/yellow)
the diagram in the wiring guide does not look like that, but id rather not start running more wires. any advice?
Question 3: Door switch?
this just started today, and i don't know what would cause it. the power / ground from the alarm is disconnected right now as a reference. when all doors are closed, the "door open" indicator glows very dimly. when i open a door, it lights up as normal. misaligned door switch? no power to the alarm?
thanks in advance for all the advice
-bryan