How to remove fuse for antilock brakes

[mazdadriver1228]

Okay, I dislike my antilock brakes and want the brakes on my car to be standard. My mother's truck had the same brake issue, it is a chevy 1500. All I did was remove the fuse for the brakes, and I got standard, or non-antilock, brakes. The only catch is that the cruise control did not work when that fuse was out. I tried removing the fuse in my Mazda3s touring 4-door, but I cannot get that fuse out.does anyone know how to do it, and will it affect anything else?

[oaklandopen]

don't do it

[mazdadriver1228]

Thanks for the tip, need a better reason not to do it. My antilocks are fucked up...I hate them. Anyone else?

[Mike240SX]

If the car is street driven: Have fun if you get in a wreck and hurt somebody, then insurance companies find out you tampered with factory safety equipment.

If your brakes are malfunctioning, take the car to a repair facility and get them fixed. If not, and the ABS is still activating during normal driving, you probably need to slow down.

[oaklandopen]

Thanks for the tip, need a better reason not to do it.

because if you are anything like your other posts have made you out to be than you probably shouldn't even be driving at all. and if you are, tell me exactly what you drive, what color, and what your license plate says so i can stay the hell away from you

seriously....posts about removing the governor, disabling ABS, one post about how you've been driving too fast? are you like 16 1/2 years old?

[mazdadriver1228]

listen, i used to drive like a dumb shit, i agree with that, but my antilocks shitted out twice when i tried stopping, at normal, street legal speeds, when it was wet out. My mother's truck had the same problem, if you stepped on the brakes when it was wet out, just a little tap, and it would not give the brakes any pressure, just make the humming noise antilock brakes make. My mother had the same problem, and she has been driving responsibly since the age of 6(farm kid). The truck did that since before i ever touched it. any more questions, oaklandopen?

[oaklandopen]

any more questions, oaklandopen?

nope, cuz im sure it would be useless anyway

[mazdadriver1228]

Instead of acting like an ignorant ass, u should have read one of my last posts on the other thread. i messed up my car last year from driving like an idiot, both things could easily have been prevented. I just, by the grace of God, got the 9,000 dollars it took to fix it and got it back on the road. because of getting a few speeding tickets, i got my license suspended for two months and restricted for half a year, administered consecutively. I am just now getting my license back one week from today. I posted this out of a simple distaste for ABS and the knowledge, from driving cars with and without ABS, that I like standard brakes better and I can do a better job of pumping brakes and coming to a safe stop than a computer. And in reference to your question, I am 20, and i will be 21 in a sort three months. I messed up my first year in college, grades, car(obviously), relationship, everything. I have turned over a new leaf. I gave up on even wanting to make my car go faster than it is supposed to, or even much over he speed limit, but on the truck removing the fuse on the ABS(the sensor kept messing up, we had a nearby shop clean it out several times but it just kept getting dirty from our back roads) actually allowed us to stop and gave brake pressure. Wouldnt even have thought about it except for a mechanically inclined friend who had the same problem.

[Tyrdstorm]

This just sounds like a bad idea. Why don't you just remove the airbags while you're at it?

[GoFast]

That loss of pressure as you describe is known as power assisted braking. It is supposed to feel easier when you slam on the brakes.

I can just about assure that nobody on these forums will tell you how to disable the ABS. Perhaps you may want to talk to your "mechanically inclined" friend and have him pull the one link between your ingorance and your/public safety out for you.

Normally I am known as a mod who like to close threads but I am going to leave this one open to see if some other people want to try talking some sense in to you.

Good luck and welcome to the forums.

[Sport6]

If you are having trouble with the ABS, check your pads! There was a guy on here who wrecked his speed on the track because of zero inside pads..

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123684925&highlight=brake+failure

[vtakk]

If you are having trouble with the ABS, check your pads! There was a guy on here who wrecked his speed on the track because of zero inside pads..

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123684925&highlight=brake+failure

can be few things but also it can be your strut(s) - if it does not hold it will force abs to consider this as lost of traction.
can be tires - shitty tires would start sliding under low braking pressure etc.

start with simple things to check. try braking on dry/clean/leveled surface and see when abs kicks in

[Wagonbacker9]

if your abs is kicking in on wet roads... something is wrong. either your tires are bald, you're braking too hard, or you have a more serious problem.

ABS only kicks on when it senses a difference in wheels speeds, so you have to be locking a wheel before it will kick on. This being the case, if it didn't.. you would just continue to skid until you were able to pump the brake... given the fact that ABS pumps it thousands of times faster than you can... I kinda doubt you're "better". Find a high speed camera of a wheel with ABS going on youtube or something... I'm not a big fan of ABS, but would only consider disabling it for an autoX day.

[djltoronto]

Some people need to learn by experience...There is a time and a place for everything.

and with that

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=156813&stc=1&d=1253804237

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=156814&stc=1&d=1253804237

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=156815&stc=1&d=1253804242

[Wagonbacker9]

give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day.... teach a man to fish... and he'll hook himself in the back of the neck, tip over his boat, and drown to death.

[djltoronto]

give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day.... teach a man to fish... and he'll hook himself in the back of the neck, tip over his boat, and drown to death.

Are you saying I may have just killed a fish? (alright)


But seriously, a quick glance at the schematic, and he was bound to figure it out.


These cars can be purchased without ABS, so it's not like he's any worse off than a non ABS equipped vehicle. (drinks)

[Wagonbacker9]

safety systems like that are designed for a certian kind of person..... I'll leave the remainder of that comment implied.

[jkunze]

If his ABS is not functioning properly, it could be a faulty wheel sensor.

That is why the Chevy 1500 truck had problems (referring to a post in this thread). Contaminates got in to the sealed bearing assembly and threw off the ABS wheel sensor on those trucks.

[Wagonbacker9]

a faulty wheel sensor will throw a trouble code and disable the whole system...

[MikeHTally]

This just sounds like a bad idea. Why don't you just remove the airbags while you're at it?Take out the seat belts and stiffen up the crumple zones, too.

[djltoronto]

stiffen up the crumple zones.

That's awesome...
haven't heard that one yet.. but I'm gonna use it.. (2thumbs)

[vtakk]

Take out the seat belts and stiffen up the crumple zones, too.
I would put full race roll cage and drive daily without helmet (bump)

[magnamx5]

listen, i used to drive like a dumb shit, i agree with that, but my antilocks shitted out twice when i tried stopping, at normal, street legal speeds, when it was wet out. My mother's truck had the same problem, if you stepped on the brakes when it was wet out, just a little tap, and it would not give the brakes any pressure, just make the humming noise antilock brakes make. My mother had the same problem, and she has been driving responsibly since the age of 6(farm kid). The truck did that since before i ever touched it. any more questions, oaklandopen?

my vote is that your tires are not up to spec man the abs is doing its job but you dont have the traction to support the braking you wish to do. If you pull the fuse on the car you will have alot more problems with air in the system etc than you would with an old chevy truck. While i agree abs is not the best if you actualy know how to drive take my 300 whp miata for example no abs but plenty of rubber and feel makes it stop just fine, that still doesnt mean it would be doable to remove the system from most modern cars.

[magnamx5]

Are you saying I may have just killed a fish? (alright)


But seriously, a quick glance at the schematic, and he was bound to figure it out.


These cars can be purchased without ABS, so it's not like he's any worse off than a non ABS equipped vehicle. (drinks)

i dunno he still has the abs pump and all the valves sitting there dead thats not as nice and workable as the proportioning system non abs cars come with.

[03zoomzoom]

I see this ending very badly... Brakes are one of the few things that HAVE to be done right. it not only yourself, but everybody else on the road. Bad weather causes much more problems than bad drivers...

[SBSPEED3]

do we really need all the lug nuts? im looking to save some weight, and i think by only using 3 on each corner i can save like 10 lbs of rolling mass!!!
F1 cars only use 1 nut to keep those wheels on, and they go like 200mph. if i have 3 i bet i can hit like 600!!!!

[Wagonbacker9]

do we really need all the lug nuts? im looking to save some weight, and i think by only using 3 on each corner i can save like 10 lbs of rolling mass!!!
F1 cars only use 1 nut to keep those wheels on, and they go like 200mph. if i have 3 i bet i can hit like 600!!!!

dude, screw that, you can drop down to 2 easy... they just hold the wheel on anyway... no big deal!

[SBSPEED3]

dude, screw that, you can drop down to 2 easy... they just hold the wheel on anyway... no big deal!

but with all my vinyl stickers and fake purge kit i really think that i can get going fast enough to warrant having 3... im not an idiot, i just wanna save weight
(ricer)(ricer)(ricer)(ricer)(ricer)(ricer)(ricer)

[oaklandopen]

this retard OP's thread coming back from the dead FTL



oh wait, i just added to the insanity....me FTL

[mazdadriver1228]

A. got new tires
B. new brake pads (they were at 15%)
C. have not had problems with brakes lately
D. I DID NOT REMOVE THE FUSE

another friend who is in college for this type of thing explained how the wiring on the older trucks and the newer, foreign model cars is different...removing the fuse would really screw me over. and by the way, all your childish petty sarcastic remarks on safety are not needed. your ignorance reflects on your intelligence.

"it is better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." --Mark Twain

[Wagonbacker9]

and by the way, all your childish petty sarcastic remarks on safety are not needed. your ignorance reflects on your intelligence.

"it is better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." --Mark Twain
(potkettle

[SBSPEED3]

the wiring on the older trucks and the newer, foreign model cars is different...

ya think!?!?!


"your an idiot" --Me

[mazdaspeed32007]

hey...he threw a mark twain quote in there...

“Not only does God play dice, but... he sometimes throws them where they cannot be seen.” _stephen hawkings.

(i.e. this guys life and braking system. lol.)

[mazdadriver1228]

Dammit, i guess i was hung on my own rope there...grrreeeaaattt...

[oaklandopen]

and by the way, all your childish petty sarcastic remarks on safety are not needed. your ignorance reflects on your intelligence.

"it is better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." --Mark Twain

nice quote....i guess someone ELSE always says it best

personally, i felt the sarcastic remarks were needed because of the nature of the question. which was: you wanted to disable an integral part of the vehicle used for safety.

i realize that the USA is the mother of all countries when it comes to safety, which puts a huuuuuge speedbump in the "car enthusiast" wanting to make their car do what they want and not what some computer tells it to do. but seriously, removing the anti-lock brakes because you say they don't work? im honestly asking you now if you are for real. are you?

you are meaning to tell me that your "brainstorm" of disabling the anti-lock brakes will solve your problems and that the engineers that spend thousands of man-hours perfecting a car apparently didn't get it right? equal to WRONG

as for the bash on my intelligence...bash away. this is a public forum that really kinda thrives on ppl making fun of each other. that keeps things exciting

but...i have graduated from UTI with a 4.0 grade point average (which i am more than happy to prove if you want)...not to toot my own horn but when i think that disabling your ABS is stupid i think that you should listen and not do it.


ps...been drinking heavily and not proofreading so sorry if some of this is incoherent or gramatically effed up.

pps...i would LOOOOOVE to meet some of these brilliant ppl in person

[mazdadriver1228]

Oakland Open: the wheel sensor on the 1500 was jacked so badly from the snow and slush and dirt and mud that the ABS malfunctioned and caused us to go straight through intersections, and both my parents know how to drive, been on the road for years, no accidents. I was able to solve the problem by simply pulling the fuse, as i mentioned. Due to the different wiring system on the older american pickup and the Mazda, i realize now i would have jacked the Mazda if i had pulled the fuse. But please cut me some slack: i grew up around Ford, Chevy, and Dodge pickup trucks, often older models where you could fix them by doing something simple like that. I got this Mazda before I came to college and it was totally different than any other car i have come into contact with. I can do basic maintenance, etc., but I would like to learn more, in particular and especially about my car, which is now in nearly showroom condition once again. Yes, the problems i had last year were caused by bald tires, I have had no problems with my brakes since i got my car back, but you can see why naturally i assumed it failed like the pickup did. I do not doubt your degree, sir, and I honestly appreciate your warning me. I made the post believing that it was my ABS sensor. If there are any simple tips you can tell me that I should know, feel free to send me a mesg.

PS. I am not against good-natured ribbing under most circumstances, my friends and I do it all the time (like I said, i am a sophomore in college) my apologies for blowing up as I did.

[03zoomzoom]

just take everything on these forums with a grain of salt. there's alot to be learned from this group of people.

[mazdadriver1228]

that i can do, and while we are on the subject, where are the plugs located? its not long until my next oil change, and I will be wanting to change the plugs when I do it, I dont think the shop changed my plugs when i had the engine work done. Plz tell me its not one of those cases where u have to take the engine half apart to get to them?

[03zoomzoom]

plugs are right on top. you'll have 2 coil packs and 2 wires. the plugs are under each coil pack and at the end of each wire. simple project. 10 minutes tops.


that i can do, and while we are on the subject, where are the plugs located? its not long until my next oil change, and I will be wanting to change the plugs when I do it, I dont think the shop changed my plugs when i had the engine work done. Plz tell me its not one of those cases where u have to take the engine half apart to get to them?

[mazdadriver1228]

Thanks., 03zoomzoom.

[oaklandopen]

Thanks., 03zoomzoom.

thanks for the PM....it's better to PM than anything else really

im here like anyone else with knowledge is here to do, help in some way. but to elaborate on the plugs...you gotta take you intercooler off first. very easy to do. can't rememvber the numbers but i think it's in the 8-10 mm range

[03zoomzoom]

sorry, wrong car. see attached pic for correct.

[Wagonbacker9]

sorry, wrong car. see attached pic for correct.

I was gonna ask if you knew you were in the MZ/MS3 section... lol

[03zoomzoom]

sorry, long day. been with crazy mechanics all day...


I was gonna ask if you knew you were in the MZ/MS3 section... lol