OEM Mazda Tire Sizes for 16"?

[CometGSR]

I am looking for some rims to install on my Wife's 2007 5 Sport and would like some advice. I want to go with P205/55R16 winter tires so I need to buy some rims. I want to stay OEM Mazda in either a steel or alloy. I found some Mazda Millenia 16" ones that might work, but I wanted to check with you guys first. Even better, I would like to find some Steels, but I can't find any in the 16" size. Is there a master list that shows OEM wheels that fit our bolt patterns?

Any help would be appreciated!

[CometGSR]

Wow, I found out that the 6 has steel. Still, it would be nice to find something that lays out what will fit the 3 or 5 to make it easier.

[VenomDesign]

I have a set of 16" mazda protege5 rims. It works very well.

[bilzfan]

16" first generation Mazda3 alloys fit with 205/55/R16 winter tires.

[Jetmech]

The 55 mm offset will be fine. The mazda 3 can take the mazda 6 alloy rim which is 60 mm so 55 mm will not be a problem. I use a 45 mm offset on my 5 for winter rims and they are no problem even w/ a 225/55R16 mounted on the rim. The milennia rim should work.

[CometGSR]

Thanks guys. Do we know for sure what the 5's offset is?

[CometGSR]

I found a good site that has this info:
http://www.1010tires.com/wheel.asp?wheelbrand=Winter+Rims&wheelmodel=Mazda+6

Mazda 5 has a 52mm offset
Mazda 6 has a 55mm offset

Good enough!

[CometGSR]

I lost out on the Mazda6 rims, I guess I should have made it there sooner. Have you guys tried 16x7 rims? I know someone here has Escape rims, but I was not sure what size it was.

[SGT_OKINAWA]

Not sure if this helps but i run 19" 8.5 JJ rims on my Premacy (Mazda 5 Sport) here in Okinawa, wearing 225 35 R19 Toyo Tires.

Good luck, post some pics when you get something on there.

peace!(rei)

[VenomDesign]

He's looking for some 16" and you came with 19" specs. Not usefull at all.

[CometGSR]

It looks like I am going to go for a set of 2001 Mazda Millenia 16". While its not exactly what I wanted, they will look nice on my Wife's 5. Are these directional?

http://www.car-part.com/images/interchange/W64833.gif

[AwaKeN]

Directional ? I think it's only the tires that could be unidirectional

[VenomDesign]

Only the tires.

[CometGSR]

I know my old Taurus SHO wheels were directional. If you guys never heard of it on Mazdas, I guess they are not.

I will post pics once I get the Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60s mounted and on the car (will be awhile! :) )

[SGT_OKINAWA]

He's looking for some 16" and you came with 19" specs. Not usefull at all.

well, sorry...Gezzzz...
But lets take a look shall we?

Have you guys tried 16x7 rims?

Let's see that is him (not you) asking will a 7JJ wide rim work? Yes, no, yes ,maybe?


So I respond with "I use 8 JJ rims."

IMO that was of some help, .... I was trying to show how wide he can go and it still will work, but you provided, NOTHING but a rude coment, ... (yawn).


Peace!(rei)

[CometGSR]

Its not big deal, I am glad to have any advice. Thanks! (drinks)

[mazdaspeedster3]

Your taurus had directional TIRES, not rims. The OEM tires were directional. Balanced any rim will not matter.

Since a good portion of Mazda3, 6 and Mazda5's are 17" wheels have you thought of just going that route and upgrading? You will be able to find a set of 17" wheels here and else where, i.e. Craigslist and the like, pretty easily and cheap.

[CometGSR]

The problem is, the 17" size of the Blizzaks are a bit more money then the 16s. My Wife is also driving, so she may be more likely to hit pot holes and other things. To be honest, I think the 17s are to aggresive for the 5. I do appreciate the brake size, but I would rather (for my Wife's use) go to a 16" 55 or 60 series tire.

I am going to buy a new set of tires for the 17s, but they will be a more inexpensive summer tire.

My Taurus SHO rims were directional:

This wheel is factory equipment for 1993, 1994 & 1995 Ford Taurus SHO but will fit any Taurus from 1986 on up with a 5 x 4.25 lug pattern. This is RH rotation wheel which means it goes on the passenger side of the car (front or back). I have the (LH) other side available in another listing. I will include the center cap but I do not have the lug nuts. This is the actual wheel you will receive. See the "click to enlarge" pictures below for condition. This is a used wheel, please do not expect perfection

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SHO-Ford-Taurus-16-x-6-factory-alloy-wheel-RH-93-95_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhas hZitem53dc962641QQitemZ360183113281QQptZMotorsQ5fC arQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[mazdaspeedster3]

Inexpensive summer tires.... Let me know when you find those.

Up to you but you are going to spend around the same for steelies and tires than just getting yourself a nice set of A/S tires and running them on the stock rims. Dont know where you live but here in MI that works great for our 07 Mazda5 Touring. Unless you are in Canadia or something snow tires are a waste to me, IMO anyway. Let us know what you get and post up pics!

[mazdaspeedster3]

My apologies, the 95-99 "slicer" rim was directional.

[thaxman]

[QUOTE=CometGSR;4803317]I know my old Taurus SHO wheels were directional. If you guys never heard of it on Mazdas, I guess they are not.

Not to mention the 15" T-Bird wheels on his sig are also directional.

The directional wheels were a big thing for Ford in the 90s, but I don't remember Mazda buying into it. Others did, like Prelude and even CRX Si OEM wheels. Anyway, directionals are all but dead nowadays, so the wheels would have to be at least 10 years old to be possibly directional. I couldn't tell how old they were.

[CometGSR]

Tirerack has Summer tires for $75 or so. They aren't exciting but they will work. I think I have enough tred for another two seasons in the Spring/Summer/Fall months.

I mulled over that but my Wife sucks at driving in the snow and has a long commute. One thing is for sure, the ones that are on there won't do.


Inexpensive summer tires.... Let me know when you find those.

Up to you but you are going to spend around the same for steelies and tires than just getting yourself a nice set of A/S tires and running them on the stock rims. Dont know where you live but here in MI that works great for our 07 Mazda5 Touring. Unless you are in Canadia or something snow tires are a waste to me, IMO anyway. Let us know what you get and post up pics!

[DKaz]

The narrower the tire and bigger the sidewall the better winter traction you'll get, but at a cost of dry and wet handling.

205/55R16 - Good winter traction, OE size
205/60R16 - Better winter traction, 2.4% larger diamater than OE size
195/60R16 - Best winter traction, very similar diamater to OE size

Do NOT go wider than 205.

[DKaz]

Up to you but you are going to spend around the same for steelies and tires than just getting yourself a nice set of A/S tires and running them on the stock rims. Dont know where you live but here in MI that works great for our 07 Mazda5 Touring. Unless you are in Canadia or something snow tires are a waste to me, IMO anyway. Let us know what you get and post up pics!

I completely disagree, all season tires are completely inadequate for all but the lightest snow cover. Even in Vancouver where it's only snow covered at most 14 days a year, I'd rather be on winter rubber. All-season rubber gets hard below 7C/45F so even wet and dry traction gets compromised. Last winter was the first year I ever got winter tires after running all seasons for years and what a difference. No more not making up a hill, being able to stop almost as if it was a dry summer day, not slipping and sliding around. Bonus is that I store my summer rims away to prevent damage due to snow covered hazards or corrosion from salt on the roads.

Braking hard from ~75km/h to 0 in about 35m. This is in a car with only EBD, no ABS, no ESC, no TC, no anything. This means being able to drive the speed limit instead of 20 to 40km/h under it while being able to stop when necessary. You can't do this with all seasons.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll81/DKazrolla/th_6ab623e5.jpg (http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll81/DKazrolla/?action=view&current=6ab623e5.pbr)

[mazdaspeedster3]

Guess I have been blessed. I have lived in the lower UP in michigan, 100's of inches of snow a year and have not ran winter tires ever and have yet to have a problem. I have had people swear by winter tires and then complain about performance starvation since the snow is cleared pretty quickly here and if you drive in the snow it is usually only 3 or 4 commutes and then the other 95% of the winter is on dry salted roads. To each their own. If you feel comfortable or think it necesary to have them so be it. I just hate to compromise the other percentage on the snow tires when the AS can salvage some performance. You can also go with a perelli MS tire and get the best of both worlds...

[AwaKeN]

Here in Quebec, they banished the "all seasons" and summer tires from the road between mid novembre to mid april. That's for a good reason !

[mazdaspeedster3]

Here in Quebec, they banished the "all seasons" and summer tires from the road between mid novembre to mid april. That's for a good reason !

I can only imagine. Studded tires allowed?

[AwaKeN]

Yes but just between those dates

[DKaz]

If the terrain is pretty flat, you could probably get away with running all seasons. In Edmonton hardly anyone uses winter tires even though it gets to -40C and there can be 3' of snow each year. They don't bother plowing the snow on all but the freeways and arterials, just throw sand on top of packed snow to provide traction for cars and that's it.

You get to Vancouver and Seattle however, it's a whole different story. Our roads are hilly and narrow and we never really budget enough for snow removal so when snow does hit they'll try to clear the main routes but 95% of the streets are disaster zones. I remember one hill where a Dodge Magnum and Honda Civic just couldn't for the life of them drive up, I honked at them to get out of my way, they left just enough room for me to squeeze through, and my winter tires equipped car just went up it with ease. Maybe it's also the fact that we don't get enough snow cover for anyone to really learn how to drive in the snow, I dunno.

Look how useless even the SUVs are in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGnOHg8KU_I

This winter, take a video and prove to me that you can be stopped at on an uphill (greater than 8% grade) and start off on your all seasons (wheel slip or pull is ok, just need to see you go). Then go down that same hill at 25mph and try to stop.

We had Nokian WR G2s last year which were good true four season tires with the Mountain & Snowflake symbol on it specifying that it is suitable for severe winter conditions, and they come with 50k/100k km treadwear so they can be run all year and were V rated and way better than the OE tires that came with my Corolla. They were adequate on snow, but I would rank all-seasons as mediocre to don't even try it at best. If you absolutely didn't want to do the twice a year changeover I would recommend this tire. There are a lot of winter performance tires that shouldn't be run all year as they wear quickly above 50F but are H Rated or higher and they run pretty well on wet and dry roads while providing decent winter traction. The hardcore winter tires that aren't that great on dry and wet are the Q to T rated tires, but even then my R Rated Yokohama iG20s last year (which I replaced the WR G2s with) were comparable to the OEs on dry and wet.

[CometGSR]

In Michigan, we do get a bit of snow fall, but a big problem here is ice. I am not just getting snow tires, I am getting ones that will deal with the ice as well. I am looking at Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60 right now.

It might be overkill, but with my Wife and kids in the car everyday, I want to make sure they have the best. If it were me driving, I wouldn't bother. My Ford Ranger 2WD has Kuhmo Solrus KR21s which really suck in the Winter, but I manage because I know how to drive.

[DKaz]

+1. The Blizzak WS-60s come in 195/60R16, I would highly recommend you look into this combination. Not only is this particular size less expensive, it'll give you way better winter traction.

[CometGSR]

Will they fit my 16x6 1/2 wheel?

[DKaz]

Yah it's fine for 5.5 to 7.0 wide wheels.

[CometGSR]

Wow, Tirerack only wants $85 a tire for Blizzaks, plus they have a rebate right now of $50 if I buy it before Oct 9th. I also found a pic on here with this tire size. Not bad!\

EDIT: Pic http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123726974&highlight=195%2F60R16 (top one). Does anyone know if this 5 is lowered or is this wheel going to fill up the wheel well like this?

[DKaz]

Yah he's dropped, and he's using 205/60R16 which has a 2.4% larger diameter than stock. 195/60R16 has roughly the same diameter as stock.

[CometGSR]

I put in an order today for the P195/60R16. They are going to be mounted on my rims this week, I will post some pictures once I get them back. They will have to sit in my garage for while, but the price was good and I liked the $50 rebate.

Thanks for all your help and suggestions!

James

[mazdaspeedster3]

Sounds like you are all set up then! Now lets hope we get TONS of snow this year!

[CometGSR]

With my luck, it will be sunny and 40 degrees all winter. Hopefully, last weekend isn't the last of the nice weather.

[sethro_GT]

Just wanted to point out that I use the Yojohoma Ice Guard's and they are wide, flat (sharp angle at top of sidewall) and have tons of integrated "sipes". Best grip on solid sheet ice I've ever seen. Narrow works good with studs but with studless I gather they need all the contact patch they can get.

If it is warm those tires are probably much like mine and they'll be quieter than the crap toyo's that came stock. So not a total loss.

[CometGSR]

http://www.v8thunderbird.com/page5/maz5winter.jpg

Man, these barely fit the 16x6.5 wheels, but they are on there. Bring on the snow!

[KBrian]

Great looking combo, Comet. I'm likin the Millenia wheels. I'm looking at some Nexen winters at sprawlmart for $80 canadian 215/55/16 but I need rims. Any suggestions?