Can't decide which Header to get [Archive]

Lil_vicious559

08-19-2009, 05:14 PM

Hey,
New to the forum and read alot and decided to become a member. Anyways I have an 02 protege 2.0 FS-ZE and wanted to put a header on but can't decide which one because I don't want cheap like obx because of the poor structure but more into AWR or Wagner. If you could please tell me if there are any others that you suggest I get and why, that would be awesome.

Let me just say a header won't do justice on the stock FS-DE motor. You're wasting you're money. I used to own a 01 Mazda MP3 i had the following mods:

Injen Race Division intake
Ractive 4-1 header
Custom Cat-back exhaust with 2 1/4 pipping
ACT 6 puck street clutch
Indigo 9lb Lightweight flywheel
SR Motor sports Cams
SR Motor sports cam gears, both cams and cam gears (TUNED)
626 Tranny
150lbs of weight reduction.

Car was barely hanging with Intake/Header/exhaust 99-00 Si's and driver's race with my friends stock, 98 GS-R.

I can guarantee you will see more of a difference in saving you're money and just fixing it up for show. These car's make no power with bolt-ons. My Intake/header/exhaust combo combines the power of an Si with just Intake. Which is pretty sad if that

Lil_vicious559

08-19-2009, 05:15 PM

BTW: welcome to the forums(dance)

RocKeeteR

08-19-2009, 05:24 PM

That bites and I run into alot of people saying to save my money why is that? P.S. I have a Jdm FS-ZE trying all motor for reliability.

Lil_vicious559

08-19-2009, 08:26 PM

FS-DE MP3 has 140hp. Regular ES 2.0 has 130hp. Because of the ECU. FS-ZE has 170hp. Just probably upped compression and few tweaks. Because Mazda isn't like Honda. Gains are minimal on N/A Mazda's.

Best thing to do is just go F/I and Turbo the car. You'll be a lot happier with the results than what you would get N/A.

fishdonotbounce

08-19-2009, 08:32 PM

Lil_vicious559

08-19-2009, 10:06 PM

Not to step on anyone's toes, but boosting an FS-ZE is not really the smartest move. The higher compression just means that you have an even bigger chance of going zoom zoom boom.

To the OP, is your entire car jdm or is it just the engine? If you have just the engine without the ECU, then I would imagine that you're not getting the 170 hp out of the motor.

Well I'm sure when someone's boosting a High N/A compression car. That they would be smart enough to lower the compression to 8:8:1 or 8:5:1. I mean I'm pretty sure you knew that already!

That's been the basic rule when Engine swaps and F/I has been in the game.

N/A means higher compression
F/I means lower compression

RocKeeteR

08-20-2009, 02:10 PM

Lil_vicious559

08-20-2009, 07:25 PM

i have high compression but its just the engine that's jdm. i was told that an ecu cost 1095.00 quote from a turbo shop in orlando but he suggestts only to install the part if i had forged parts in the motor or have done motifications. since the motor is maxed out off the factory line it's not worth the 10 to 15 hp gain in my eyes unless you suggest somehting other then microtech ecu. I am going to get a quote from tony from awr and see how much a header cost. I am also getting full exhaust later on and need some ideas where to go with a brand and quality.

Where did you buy your motor from? from my understanding, in order to do a full engine swap you need the Wiring harness and ECU. For Honda's i do know you need the wiring harness and ecu!

If you want minimal gains, i can see you getting expecting maybe 3-5whp with the header if that's all you're looking for

Protephile

08-20-2009, 09:42 PM

No offense to any of you but there is a lot of misinformation in this thread regarding Protege performance and specs.
Please read the FAQ!

http://www.protegefaq.net/

Also, if you are NOT planning to turbo a header is worth about 7 whp on an otherwise stock engine.
No, the FS is not the most mod-friendly engine but bolt-ons do make a difference.
I have the usual I/H/E and an MP3 ECU, plus smaller, supporting mods and my ES is still a lot of fun to drive even after almost six years of ownership.

Lil_vicious559

08-20-2009, 10:38 PM

BoPro5

08-21-2009, 05:11 AM

all engines will see benefits from I/H/E type mods whether its a Corvette or a Geo Metro. i say do the header and full exhaust. that mod is the most surefire and economical way to add very noticeable power to any N/A engine. I've done it several times to several cars.

And since you have the fs-ze, double check your ecu knowledge to make sure your getting the most from your engine by having the correct ecu. there are tons of threads just about ecu's on this forum.

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 11:05 AM

well i didnt do an ecu swap or wiring harness. I used the ones on the car and swapped the motor in a garage at a friends house. but Ive been wanting a mp3 ecu but ken from mazda said that ecu is only spec out for a turbo which im doing all motor. he suggested microtech ecu but that's just too expensive 1095.00. Any suggestions what i should do because i still owe 9 months of payments and then set free i also want to do some accessory work like jdm headlights and 2 hid kits for the fogs and for the heads. after that i'm done .

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 11:06 AM

if I you have any ideas im open to try them out so i may have fun with the car so let me know

fishdonotbounce

08-21-2009, 11:36 AM

Ok well Ken must have thought you said MSP ecu cause the MP3 ecu is for NA. It pulled about 10 more horsies out of the motor via some tweaking and a little change to the exhaust on the MP3. The power curve is a LOT smoother with the MP3 ecu though.

I'm really surprised that you're using the stock ECU with the FSZE though.

As far as HID's go, go to the Authorized Vendors subforum and click on exterior. You'll see Xenon Xpert selling the DDM kit for 70 dollars shipped with a lifetime warranty. Insane deal for a great kit. I've had it on the P5 for over 2 years and it's been great.

Protephile

08-21-2009, 11:56 AM

Please elaborate what has been Mislead. I owned a 01 MP3 more modded than you're basic I/H/E ES 2.0

Please the FS DE engines are nothing special and weak

I don't have time to argue with you. And I didn't single you out. Just read the FAQ if you doubt what you've read in this thread.

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 01:35 PM

thanks for the hid tip. So explain the MP3 ecu. Is that hard to get because getting my engine to its full potential is what I want to do without putting a turbo in it. And what step should i take first from what you've read. Headers? ECU? Exhaust? I'm lost lol

mx-p5

08-21-2009, 01:41 PM

wow, this thread makes my head hurt already.....

First off, Lil_vicious559, the Protege is NOT a straight line race car, so, why even bother trying?

to the OP, i've had good experience with both the OBX and Ractive headers. Currently have a Ractive sitting on the floor in my garage

I also have the MP3 ECU (advances timing for a smoother powerband and a little bump in HP, but, not sure how that works with the JDM motor-if i read that right) also, do the VTCS removal on the intake manifold to get the most out of the ECU.

In general, the Protege 2.0 is a puzzle and every piece helps.

At my high point, i had the MP3 ECU, OBX header, Injen intake, and magnaflow catback and noticed a rather large gain compared to the car sitting stock now.

Never dyno'd, but, the butt dyno read real good!

BUT, keep in mind, i only get to work and back with it. I DO NOT try racing.

and props to ya for wanting to build N/A!

Lil_vicious559

08-21-2009, 02:16 PM

I don't have time to argue with you. And I didn't single you out. Just read the FAQ if you doubt what you've read in this thread.

You are taking it the wrong way guy. I'm simply asking you to elaborate not argue, i mean you did post. So why not just provide some helpful info!(rockon)

I was just simply stating how more modded my MP3 was than most people with proteges. I'm not doubting the FS DE engines won't free up any hp that's there, just not as much as to it's contenders and think it's a waste of time and money especially for me. I spend over 4grand to hang with a I/H/E 99-00 Si and to be basically a drivers race between my buddy's stock 98 GS-R with a filter

Injen Race division Intake cost me $259 (DIMS)...did it my self
Ractive 4-1 header cost me $200 (DIMS)...did it my self
Custom cat-back cost me $225 (included labor)
ACT street clutch and Flywheel cost me $900 (No labor)
Cams and Cams gear cost me $900 ( labor $200
(Tuned) cost me $250
626 Tranny cost me $475 (labor $400)
150lbs of weight reduction (DIMS)...did it my self

expenses= exactly $3809 give or take around there for sure. For that kind of money i could of just turbo'd the MP3 and been way more quicker, or could of just did something else with it.

I understand some people like to modify the protege, but if there looking to free up a whole lot of hp. The FS DE is the wrong engine.

All of my mod's equivalent to what a Intake/exhaust does on a K-series motor. Or Intake/header/exhaust does to a B-series motor.

My opinion, not worth the money to dump into these motors. I still loved the car for what it was worth. I mean don't get me wrong, i loved mazda and stayed in the MAZDA Family(bow)

thanks for the hid tip. So explain the MP3 ecu. Is that hard to get because getting my engine to its full potential is what I want to do without putting a turbo in it. And what step should i take first from what you've read. Headers? ECU? Exhaust? I'm lost lol

Just so you know, it's called Header not Headers. There's only 4-cylinders! I think JDM sam can help you with his $150 MP3 ECU problem....He needs to chime in here.

Like i said if you're ready to blow money in to the motor and not expect a whole massive power....by all means go ahead. You will free up maybe 5-7whp with the Header and another 1-3whp with the Cat-back exhaust

mx-p5

08-21-2009, 02:18 PM

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 02:21 PM

how much would he sell it and what would i need to do for install and programming? and i still owe 9 more months of payments so i might as well have fun with it. btw ill add close to 20 more hp with the ecu header and exhaust wouldnt you think? I already have injen cold air, tein basic damper, hks exhaust, stage 2 act clutch, and poly urethane mounts.

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 02:21 PM

so ractive header or awr?

mx-p5

08-21-2009, 02:22 PM

you WOULD think, but, sadly, our cars just don't respond well to mods.

With intake, header, midpipe, catback, ECU, and vtcs'less intake mani, you're prob gonna top out at 115 hp max

and it all depends on your budget as to which header. AWR's, if you can find em, aren't cheap.

Ractive, i might be willing to let mine go.

Lil_vicious559

08-21-2009, 02:27 PM

can i ask if you did any suspension mods? As i said, these cars are NOT drag racers!

Put some sticky tires and a stiff suspension and see how well you do around an autox track compared to your buddies SI or GSR

anyways, he's not asking if he can race his car, he's asking what header would net him the best gains.

And most any will do about the same, i think the only one that would be any different would be the AWR cause it's a true 4-2-1 header instead of the 4-1's out there

What gain exactly? Couldn't tell you, but, in theory, it flows better

Only suspension mod's i had were. Tokico struts and MM, RB Springs riding on some yoko parada Spec II's. Let me just say i could out launch any car with these tires with my mod's.

I knew the MP3 can outrun the SI and GS-R in the corners. But back in 01-02. Drag racing was the scene. I didn't start drifting till 04

so ractive header or awr?

Ractive 4-1 is better for mid-top end
4-2-1 Is a better for low-mid end, there's no top end with the race header

you WOULD think, but, sadly, our cars just don't respond well to mods.

With intake, header, midpipe, catback, ECU, and vtcs'less intake mani, you're prob gonna top out at 115 hp max

and it all depends on your budget as to which header. AWR's, if you can find em, aren't cheap.

Ractive, i might be willing to let mine go.

Exactly what i have been trying to tell him.....You're taking my post the wrong way though. This is what i have been trying to explain to him

mx-p5

08-21-2009, 02:29 PM

ah, ok, i read it as you knockin putting money into the car. lol

No worries bud. Sorry, my bad

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 02:30 PM

they are about 500.00 which is my budget for the header but if i can get quality and bang for my buck then i might go ractive. I havent done any research on ractive but is it jet coated chrome?

Lil_vicious559

08-21-2009, 02:33 PM

ah, ok, i read it as you knockin putting money into the car. lol

No worries bud. Sorry, my bad

Lol, It's all right.(dance) I was just simply stating how much money i spent and so little gain's that the FS freed up. Doesn't do much....but at the time, i was kind of happy. Not as much as i knew i spent to much money. I love Mazda always and i currently own the two car's in my sig and a 93 MX-6 LS that I'm trying to get running. (OOO)Out of order right now...hehe

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 02:34 PM

are the yoko better then bf goodrich sport? because i need new tires as well so i keep in mind to shop around.

Lil_vicious559

08-21-2009, 02:34 PM

they are about 500.00 which is my budget for the header but if i can get quality and bang for my buck then i might go ractive. I havent done any research on ractive but is it jet coated chrome?

Mine was kind of chrome i think, after awhile it started to burn purple/blue. I'm not sure if it was Stainless steel or chrome, i know it wasn't jet coated though, damn it's been a long time since i had my MP3. Got rid of the MP3 in 05(confused)

mx-p5

08-21-2009, 02:35 PM

yeah, i've modded about all the bolts ons you can do, minus a midpipe and loved the car!!

But, demodding and selling to pick up a miata to save the car payment i'm making on mine, plus i get topless cruising

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 02:35 PM

well i bought the car back in 05 and some of these mods where already done on them except the engine swap which i did but just completing the previous owners dreams lol

mx-p5

08-21-2009, 02:37 PM

here's a crappy pic of mine, it's not the most beautiful thing right now, but, if you ship it off to get jet hot coated, it'll sparkle!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/cbrjeeper/f32eb0cb.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/cbrjeeper/DSC01297.jpg

And, i'll only ask $150 shipped, or, shoot, i could meet up with ya and hand deliver it Sat afternoon, we're headed to Orlando

Lil_vicious559

08-21-2009, 02:38 PM

are the yoko better then bf goodrich sport? because i need new tires as well so i keep in mind to shop around.

I can't justify to say. I mean, The tread life on these tires are only good for around 15-18000 miles. I drove mine till i put around 22K on them and started to rip. I purchased 3 set's of these tires back when they cost $89 each on tirerack. That was quite a bit ago, so I'm sure they probably cost a little more now.

If i were you and if you get an aftermarket clutch and flywheel, Motor mounts. I'd say go for the yoko's!

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 02:38 PM

awr no longer makes the header... calling corksport

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 02:40 PM

thats a tease for the header

Lil_vicious559

08-21-2009, 02:40 PM

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 02:42 PM

where in orlando and if i couldn't make it are you relatively local to central florida?

mx-p5

08-21-2009, 02:43 PM

i'm actually in Port Saint Lucie, just south of ya. We'll be coming up Saturday and headed back home late Sunday night, but, i got no problem meeting up with ya half way any other time if not this weekend

Lil_vicious559

08-21-2009, 02:43 PM

mx-p5

08-21-2009, 02:43 PM

yup, 4-1

Lil_vicious559

08-21-2009, 02:44 PM

yup, 4-1

Damn I miss the engine bay of my MP3. I miss the beginning day's of the millennium :(

mx-p5

08-21-2009, 02:45 PM

oh, and one other gain, check this!

It's enough that you'll need to reaim your headlights!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/cbrjeeper/IMG_9326.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/cbrjeeper/IMG_9327.jpg

Lil_vicious559

08-21-2009, 02:48 PM

(boom01)

Damnn....The Ractive 4-1 header weighs 16.2lbs lighter than the stocker.....So you get a combo of power and weight reduction......lol

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 02:53 PM

well def. catch up in less then a week so i can get the header off your hands lol but for now i have to get to work laterzz

mx-p5

08-21-2009, 02:56 PM

Sounds good man! I'll hold it for ya.

PM coming your way with my number.

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 09:30 PM

so the header is basically out of the way... lol what full exhaust do you all suggest to get because i need to get them both done simulaneously? don't hold out

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 09:46 PM

And what about that guys mp3 ecu were you saying earlier that it was for sell or if not where can i get one?

mx-p5

08-21-2009, 10:46 PM

if you're up for it, and can hit up your bolts on the midpipe and header with PB blaster, i can do the header swap if you like.

As to exhaust, i recommend going with a racing beat catback, as well as a high flow midpipe.

I think protege garage sells a high flow catted midpipe in 2.5" as well as the Racing Beat exhaust

If your staying basic bolt on NA powered, 2.5" exhaust should be MORE than enough. 3" and you'll just fizzle out

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 11:03 PM

i have hks exhaust right now Would that matter to the cat back system?

RocKeeteR

08-21-2009, 11:08 PM

so its 450 for the racingbeat and I can take your word for your suggestion? :p

Lil_vicious559

08-22-2009, 01:18 AM

so the header is basically out of the way... lol what full exhaust do you all suggest to get because i need to get them both done simulaneously? don't hold out

If you have the HKS is it a cat-back or axle-back? Cat-back is better, and if you don't have a cat-back. get custom piping done. 2.5" all the way to the Header

And what about that guys mp3 ecu were you saying earlier that it was for sell or if not where can i get one?

You can get in contact with him here and send him a PM. This is his thread! Actually his name is SpicyOrangeMSP

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123746537

mx-p5

08-22-2009, 06:28 AM

You've already got an HKS catback? Then you're good to go.

RocKeeteR

08-22-2009, 10:47 AM

Forgive my ignorance but i just have the muffler tip and i still have both cats

RocKeeteR

08-22-2009, 10:51 AM

Spicy is figuring out if the ecu will work out but there is another guy on the forum that has a Fsze motor and he's asking the same question.

probin94

08-22-2009, 10:59 AM

so its 450 for the racingbeat and I can take your word for your suggestion? :p

Yes you can take his word for it. I've got one and it sounds amazing

RocKeeteR

08-22-2009, 11:07 AM

So i should get custom tubing from my heads to my hi power HKS Exhaust? sorry i'm confused

probin94

08-22-2009, 11:10 AM

Get the racing beat catback

RocKeeteR

08-22-2009, 11:24 AM

And protege garage has a catback? because i saw the full exhaust for 450 and wondering he it will be cheaper. p.s. i'm on mobile internet

probin94

08-22-2009, 11:36 AM

a cat back is a full exhaust. you might be confused. i think your thinking of the axleback portion. that would be just the muffler and the pipe from the axleback. a catback is run from the 2nd cat all the way back to the car. so yes it would be 450 for the cat back. if they do sell just the axleback portion im not sure what that runs cost wise.

RocKeeteR

08-22-2009, 12:00 PM

Thanks for explaining. what would you do since i already have a great axle back

RocKeeteR

08-22-2009, 12:09 PM

Thanks for explaining. what would you do since i already have a great axle back

probin94

08-22-2009, 12:40 PM

you could just go to your local exhaust shop and have them do up some bigger piping for you. shouldnt run ya much. id honestly say sell the axleback and get the full racing beat. but thats just me

mx-p5

08-22-2009, 12:44 PM

are you sure it's JUST an axleback? Does it run up to the 2nd cat?

I know a guy down in Jupiter that is selling a 3" high flow midpipe, but, unless you plan on boosting, 3" exhaust will actually hinder the car more than help.

If you don't like your HKS, i'd say sell it and pick up the racing beat catback

Then, with the Ractive header, you can look into a 2.5 or so high flow midpipe.

One question though, do you do a lot of highway trips? Cause with the header, midpipe, and exhaust, the drone is pretty bad on the highway

Lil_vicious559

08-22-2009, 03:10 PM

If you're just running an exhaust tip or HKS axleback. Go to your nearest local exhaust/muffler shop and have them put a 2.5" straight pipe from your header all the way back to the tip or axleback.

You will notice a bigger drone in the exhaust like others said. There's no need to buy another name brand exhaust. If you were completely stock, then i could suggest you buying another exhaust.

RocKeeteR

08-22-2009, 03:15 PM

RocKeeteR

08-22-2009, 03:17 PM

I wish i was more educated to help you help me lol... i'll ask my buddy tonight about the axle back is what i have or if i have i mid pipe.

ghostbusters

08-23-2009, 06:18 PM

hey, i was just reading through this thread and wanted to add a couple things, I have a j-spec fs-ze with the japanese sport 20 ecu , its a very nice motor, and for those who say that the fs doesnt respond well to mods, well its given that it might not respond as well as a honda b-series motor, but it does respond. I have a couple friends with sport 20 hatches here and their motors are modded, they do respond well, and noticeably so, to IHE mods. Anyway, if anyone is interested in a FS-ZE ECU, let me know i might be able to source one, but remember, just the ECU, no harness and that ECU is OBD1 only...I'm really sure i can get it cheaper than anyone in the US... oh yeah, the FS-ze come stock with a 4-2-1 header, but my friend has a obx 4-1 on his and say he did get an increase in performance from it...

Lil_vicious559

08-23-2009, 07:49 PM

Monday first thing i'll do is go to a muffler shop and ask them the questions and get back to you with the answers so we can decide then. and i rarely make trips highway so i hope city will be fine. what's the con

I basically looked up what exhaust was available for the Protege/MP3. And they have a HKS axleback that fit's on the Protege5 wagon. You probably have the tip, maybe a axleback. Regardless get some custom piping done!

And to ghostbusters: No one said that the FS doesn't respond to mod's. All car's respond to mod's. Your basically freeing up hp that's already there, just don't have the oommphh to free up as much as other contenders.

What I'm saying is, i think spending 1K on a FS to gain 15-20WHP is a joke. A B-series, K-series, 2ZZ-GE motor doesn't take much to gain anything. A Raceheader and Intake alone net around 15-20WHP on a RSX Type S.

If I'm spending that kind of money on a car doesn't matter what it is. It's not worth it to me. To even go that route. Best route to take on the FS motors is to go F/I

ghostbusters

08-23-2009, 08:27 PM

i get wat ur sayin, dude could u de-bold my name, lol, that is bright, i really am trying to build a NA motor though, willing to go all out, next step is autoexe header(4-2-1) then full exhaust and this week i'm getting an intake, its a start

RocKeeteR

08-23-2009, 10:12 PM

i Feel like such a noob. explain the ecu again i didn't understand all of it and i was checking out spicy orange reflash ecu and still waiting to get back on how it works on the FS-ZE. anyways i'm going all motor as well but the auto exe header is 1000 right? correct me if i'm wrong because i thought i saw it for that much.

RocKeeteR

08-23-2009, 10:15 PM

and What deal were you looking for with the FS-ZE ecu and please explain the harness and the ih thing lol

ghostbusters

08-23-2009, 10:48 PM

the important thing to know is that u cant get the full potential out of the fs-ze with either the mp3 or ordinary fs-de ecu, u need a fs-ze ecu to get the 170ps that the motor is capable of making.Yes, i think i saw the autoexe header for 1000, which i dont intend to pay, where i'm located we get alot of jdm cars , front halves and engines so its just a matter of sourcing a used header, it'll take sum time, but i'll find it. I dont know for certain if the wiring harness is the same for the fs-ze and the fs-de, i can source a fs-ze ecu , but i may not be able to find the wiring harness, so u'll need to verify whether or not the wiring harness is the same, and if ur in a state that requires emissions tests, since the flash is different, i could not say whether or not u'd pass...i can check out the ecu and let u know how much one would cost

RocKeeteR

08-23-2009, 11:41 PM

What modifications would need to be done with the ecu.? i'm in florida with no inspections thank goodness but lets say you happened to get the ecu at a reasonable price.. would it be reliable or should i just reflash the ecu.? trying to take in as Much info

ghostbusters

08-24-2009, 06:51 AM

yeah, it would be reliable, mine is and so are the ones that i know of here, (3 other sport 20's) I dont think its possible to unlock the car's full potential by a simple re-flash, probably an aftermarket fuel and ignition controller might help, but i cant be absolutely certain.remember u'd just be using the ecu that was actually designed and programmed for that motor, which ur currently not doing.

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 08:36 AM

can you get your hands on one of these bad boys and what's your starting price.? and the harness is two different systems: the sport 20 is obd1 and mine is obd2 how hard are the adjustments and where could they be tweaked

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 08:39 AM

Can you snag a harness and who can install it correctly

justanothermp5

08-24-2009, 08:39 AM

ok i dont think u get this so im going to say it...with out the FSZE ECU your car is almost exactly the same as the regular FSDE power wise
if your going all motor and your going to be doing cams, cam gears, ecu, lighter pulleys, port&polish all that then i would go for the 2.5 like whats his name said up there^
bt if your just going to do intake, header, exhaust, get 2.25 so u dont lose so much torque, if u get the 2.5 anyways well then ur going to have like 2whp more and 3ftlbs less

if ur going NA then i would go all out, get the 626 mani or remove the VTCS from yours, jdm cams..u might already have those lol, port & polish, lighter pulleys/underdrive pulley, header. 2.5 back WITH HI FLOW CAT, if u do not get a hi flow cat your car will sound like a piece of shit, this is coming from experience, intake (CAI or SRI, they both give the same power)

thats about it, oh and the MP3 ecu reflash and u should be at a decent amount of power...maybe 150ish whp?

edit: i was talking about exhaust diameter up there when i said 2.5 and 2.25

mx-p5

08-24-2009, 08:40 AM

Depending on how in depth the harness is, i might be able to do it

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 08:47 AM

With that said lol i'm going to need some guidance from all of you after i get the exhaust done and attempt to get the sport 20 ecu upon availability

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 08:50 AM

I'm headed to the muffler shop now

mx-p5

08-24-2009, 08:51 AM

if we can get more details on what's involved with the sport20 setup, i'll see what i can do for ya.

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 10:09 AM

sounds too good to be true. and the verdict is in and i have an hi power HKS axle back so i'm going to get custom piping done. i got one quote and they said 400 450 from one shop with a magna flow cat. the same shop said to install the racing beat would run me 200 so all together would be 650 700 for the racing beat exhaust installed. i went to another muffler shop and they said they'll try to beat the other quoted shop.

mx-p5

08-24-2009, 10:11 AM

PM coming your way

BoPro5

08-24-2009, 11:37 AM

since you have the fs-ze motor, the fs-ze ecu is going to be the best ecu for it, like ghostbuster said. IMO go that route. more power and more reliable.

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 11:45 AM

Alright just waiting on ghostbuster to get back to me about the ecu

mx-p5

08-24-2009, 12:38 PM

we still up for meeting tomorrow somewhere?

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 12:43 PM

yeah def. where would you like to meet up on 95 so we can goof around and talk

mx-p5

08-24-2009, 12:44 PM

i'm in port saint lucie, so, i dunno what's between us

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 01:20 PM

vero seems to be the middle give or take on the map.

mx-p5

08-24-2009, 01:21 PM

sounds good, pending i have a car to drive.......

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 01:24 PM

so you think custom piping is the way to go and could you tell me exactly what i should get for the hi flow cat? i already know to get 2.5 tubing but any other modifications?

mx-p5

08-24-2009, 01:29 PM

not 100% on the FS-ZE honestly.

I'd do a 2.5 high flow cat though.

other than that, you COULD do a 626 intake manifold, but, that shows more gains on forced induction setup.

Maybe do some cams? Twiggys if you can find em-(edit-not sure but, the FS-ZE cams may be good enough)

Focus

08-24-2009, 03:07 PM

You 100% need to get a FS-ZE wiring harness to use the ECU. It is OBD1, there is no check engine light. It has an Exhaust temparature sensor, and the list goes on...

mx-p5

08-24-2009, 04:33 PM

rocketeer, dumb question, but, is your shifter forward at all?

I test drove my car with the new "JDM"block and my first gear is about at the A/C controls with 2nd gear being where 1st gear used to be

I took it back after the ABS light and ebrake handle wouldn't turn off

ghostbusters

08-24-2009, 04:45 PM

ok guys tomorrow i'm gonna see if i can get the wiring harness and ecu, as far as price, to be honest, i dont really care to make a profit, i'll let u know how much these guys want for the stuff and i'll check out the shipping, will let you know, well just to let u know i did a conversion from the 1.6 zm to the sport 20 fs-ze, i dont have alot of info on the difference in the wiring and stuff,i had an auto electrician re-wire it, i got the active-matic(tiptronic) tranny with it. I know of 2 separate guys with full fs-ze's , i.e. engine, tranny, ecu and harness. I actually thought that the fs-ze and de would have similar harnesses since they are pretty similar, having the same sensors and stuff, i even use the fs-de cam sensor and crank sensor on mine.

ghostbusters

08-24-2009, 04:46 PM

i cant see my own posts , is 247 dieing?

ghostbusters

08-24-2009, 04:48 PM

y cant i see my own posts????

ghostbusters

08-24-2009, 04:51 PM

i actually thought the fs-ze intake manifold was superior to the de intake manifold, something to do with the little black box on top

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 05:25 PM

um if your asking if my shifter feels out of place it did until i put oem shifter bushings and bolt in but that was because my shifter was extremely loose because the bolt previously was some scrap bolt and nut when i had my transmission rebuilt.. other then that experience im not sure sorry

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 05:27 PM

should i buy a 626 intake mani or a performance mani?

Focus

08-24-2009, 05:36 PM

mx-p5

08-24-2009, 05:56 PM

dude, focus, i feel like the biggest idiot in the world right now

I don't know WHY i didn't think that! Well, prob cause i didn't think they took it out, but, that makes PERFECT sense!

I'll call and explain that to em tomorrow. But, they still need to figure why the ABS and E-brake lights are still on

Thank you Bud!!

And, back to Rocketeer. Callie said she'll pick me up from work since i might not have a car tomorrow, so, either way, we're on for tomorrow late afternoon (between 5-7??) in Vero for you to get the header

It's JUST the header, i do not have the manifold gasket or donut gasket for the exhaust

oh, and before you do your exhaust, the Ractive header DOES NOT have a bung for your second 02 sensor, but if you'regonna do a custom exhaust/midpipe, have em weld in a 2nd 02 bung in the midpipe, then you can get the Mazdaspeed 02 sensor extentions or splice your own extention

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 06:12 PM

thats a good diagram drawn out lol okay i can't wait to start putting my dreams together.

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 06:17 PM

wow the site is acting strange all day... and ghostbuster your a real help and i can't wait for you to get back to me about the ecu and harness... ha i might have to get the tranny as well from you to the full swap later down the road hehe anyways I'm stoked meeting up with pro5x2 hopefully tom if all goes well

mx-p5

08-24-2009, 06:20 PM

diagram?

And i think you'll like the build as it goes. BUT, just don't ride in a mazdaspeed, or you'll get boost envy right away. lol

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 06:42 PM

should i worry about putting heat wraps on the header at all and or should i have it coated and polished?

RocKeeteR

08-24-2009, 06:49 PM

because i talked with a guy at the shop today and said i should put heat wraps on because it keeps the header hot which performs better. He also said that it would keep the rest of your engine at a lower variable temperature especially my CAI "caught on to that lingo lol" I mean I'm only taking everyones credibility and being sourceful so I'm not left in the dark with everyone's decision why they chose to go left or right... My opinion is that they look tacky and i like to look at shiny things lol but whatever performs better you know.

BoPro5

08-25-2009, 02:02 AM

wraps are all personal choice. they will do what they are designed to do and will mostly just keep everything cooler under the hood. but lots of people run there cars fine without them. All personal choice.

I would do a heat wrap on mine because i live in vegas... 120+ in the summer and F that "its a dry heat" bullshit. I would want everything to stay as cool as possible.

ghostbusters

08-25-2009, 06:28 AM

yup, i'm gonna be looking for the harness and ecu today...dude, the ecu and harness i can do, a transmission,,,lol, i dunno about that, remember, i'm in another country, laterz

RocKeeteR

08-25-2009, 10:18 AM

Yeah your right wraps will do its job you live in a dry area where i live in humidity so heat wraps it is lol

mx-p5

08-25-2009, 10:24 AM

talk to John again, he wrapped his OBX and it's still beautiful!

plus it'd be cheaper than jet hot coating

mx-p5

08-25-2009, 11:49 AM

Alright, got my car back!

So, what time is good to meet ya in Vero? I'll have your header! lol

RocKeeteR

08-25-2009, 11:54 AM

about 6 okay? and you said that you didnt have the donut gasket or manifold gasket, where would i get those?

mx-p5

08-25-2009, 11:56 AM

I suggest the dealership for the donut gasket. Aftermarket ones didn't seal up right for me.

As to the other, hit up "***************" and tell em Tylor sent ya for a header/manifold gasket! He'll get a chuckle. lol

and hit me via PM with your number or shoot me a text. i think i sent ya mine.

and 6 sounds good to me. Just call when ya get there or i'll call and we can pick a meeting point.

RocKeeteR

08-25-2009, 12:19 PM

do i need to order anything else ?

mx-p5

08-25-2009, 12:27 PM

just the 02 sensor extentions.

The exhaust shop should be able to get an 02 bung to weld into the new midpipe you'll be doing.

But, other than the header gasket and donut gasket, that's it.

Oh, not sure but, you'll prob also need the CEL eliminator

RocKeeteR

08-25-2009, 12:30 PM

hey the dounut gasket is 21.80 from the dealer and the manifold gasket is 16.04 and a new 2001 intake manifold for the 626 is 340.00

RocKeeteR

08-25-2009, 12:33 PM

about the sensor extensions, do i need the mazda speed wiring extenstions or what is it exactly so i can order it from the dealership as well unless you know a better place

mx-p5

08-25-2009, 12:59 PM

post up a WTB thread for 2nd 02 sensor extention and someone might have one laying around.

otherwise, if you're any good at wiring, splice your own extention.

As to gaskets, that sounds about right.

the intake manifold, there is a guy on here i think selling his 626 for $250

RocKeeteR

08-25-2009, 08:38 PM

Cleaned up the header with alcohol and put engine degreaser inside. and if your serious about the axle back then we can do the trade once i purchase the racing beat full exhaust

RocKeeteR

08-25-2009, 08:42 PM

If you know a person or a shop we both can go to for a deal to cut the axle back and smelt it on your's and install the exhaust on my car lets go for it. you might have more resources then i do.

RocKeeteR

08-25-2009, 10:05 PM

the racing beat exhaust is 2.375 inchs or 66mm. Makes no difference to a an exact 2.5?or they just round up?

ghostbusters

08-25-2009, 10:19 PM

started the search for the ecu and harness today guys, truth be told, i checked a couple places and the sun was really burnin, so i went to the beach and check out girls, err, one guy had one, but was unwilling to split it from the engine and trans, will check sum other places tomorrow and update

RocKeeteR

08-25-2009, 10:52 PM

your such a tease man lol dont tell me you found one and couldn't get it lol j'k but I am excited that your making an effort. btw which exhaust is better the racing beat or the greddy sp exhaust v.2 ? if there are any other suggst. give me your opinion...

niky

08-26-2009, 01:31 AM

the racing beat exhaust is 2.375 inchs or 66mm. Makes no difference to a an exact 2.5?or they just round up?

Your conversion factor seems too high.

It's 63mm and 60mm. The difference is very slight, though... you can usually just weld them up unless you're OCD about fitment and flow. My exhaust starts as 2.375, then enlarges to 2.5 at the muffler. Unless you're looking closely, you can't see the step.

ghostbusters

08-26-2009, 06:15 AM

what I'm thinking about doing is doing some measurements on the autoEXE exhaust system, buying the stainless steel bends and tig welding it all together, i already have a HKS Super Drager muffler to put at the end, not sure If I'm going to use a cat or resonator, most likely not.

The autoEXE system is 2.5inches

mx-p5

08-26-2009, 06:33 AM

Dude, if you can have the exhaust shipped to you, we can get an install/meet going down at my place and do it in the garage.

We swapped my magnaflow onto JC-MP5's P5 and his stock setup onto mine.

OH, also, JC-mp5 has a 3" high flow midpipe he's trying to sell too, just FYI

oh, and i'm crazy tired today, i can't remember what i said i'd send you links to.

Oh, and i have a spare lower grille now, but, it just isn't very pretty. It was painted white then black by another forum member.

RocKeeteR

08-26-2009, 11:14 AM

sorry this thread has gone from discussing headers to now exhaust but moving along ha... so i've decided to either get jic magic exhaust or skunk 2 since i want a can instead of a stock looking exhaust. Jic is about 589 and i think skunk 2 is running a hundred dollars cheaper i forgot. I am considering of eliminating the cat but i was just told that new laws will be placed in florida around 2011. anyways i found out the axle back hi power exhaust cost 350 on one website and 319 on another. the axle back has no scratches and i can take pictures of it to see for yourself

mx-p5

08-26-2009, 11:15 AM

if you eliminate the cat, just keep the stock exhaust setup in the garage and swap it when emissions check comes

RocKeeteR

08-26-2009, 11:21 AM

would asking 250 be too much?

CTt3P5

08-26-2009, 11:21 AM

about the sensor extensions, do i need the mazda speed wiring extenstions or what is it exactly so i can order it from the dealership as well unless you know a better place

Here is the part # for the MSP extension "Mid Oxygen Sensor Harness (1) - BPY167020" Onlinemazdaparts sells it for approx $45 so your local dealer will be $5-$10 more.

There may be a chance that even with this extension you'll need to splice the wiring depending on where the bung is welded on the midpipe. Just something to keep in mind.

RocKeeteR

08-26-2009, 12:19 PM

Great thanks for the product info i'm going to need to get that with other things

RocKeeteR

08-26-2009, 12:23 PM

I don't want to over price where i'm screwing someone over but i also don't want to do the same for myself

mx-p5

08-26-2009, 02:25 PM

i don't think that'd be too high, but, i'll have to pass.

I'm saving for a Racing Beat catback myself now

And before you order that extention, if you go to an exhaust shop, ask em if they can do a custom extention so it's just the right size. Just a thought

RocKeeteR

08-26-2009, 03:23 PM

your talking about the o2 sensor?

RocKeeteR

08-26-2009, 03:24 PM

or for the exhaust?

mx-p5

08-26-2009, 03:45 PM

Talking about the 02sensor

RocKeeteR

08-26-2009, 09:13 PM

pro you know anything about the jic magic exhaust protege garage sells?

RocKeeteR

08-26-2009, 09:30 PM

any luck today GB?

ghostbusters

08-26-2009, 10:41 PM

na, i was at the electrician all mornin then had to attend a funeral...will update soon

RocKeeteR

08-26-2009, 11:15 PM

apologize for being selfish... i hope the best.

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 12:15 PM

So Im getting the jic magic exhaust on protege garage in about a week or two max. But after that I plan on getting the hi flow mani thats on street unit shortly after. anyone else think its a smart decision?

mx-p5

08-27-2009, 12:20 PM

what internally are you planning on doing? TOO much air flow is bad for an N/A setup

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 02:30 PM

i suppose i already have jdm cams in it right?

mx-p5

08-27-2009, 02:48 PM

gotta pop the valve cover to find out.

Same boat i'm in

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 05:12 PM

can we schedule a Maintenance after you and i get our exhaust

mx-p5

08-27-2009, 05:59 PM

maintiance?

Like what?

And, i'm prob gonna be waiting a bit to get my exhaust

kudakev615

08-27-2009, 06:12 PM

pro you know anything about the jic magic exhaust protege garage sells?

ive got it on my p5 and i love the sound of this exhaust. it is rather loud but with my long tube ractive header, cams, mp3 intake mani and ecu....it SCREAMS at the top end;)

mx-p5

08-27-2009, 06:38 PM

i'm def. curious to hear the JIC on your car.

I HAD the magnaflow

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 09:40 PM

your getting me all excited about the exhaust... i have everything you just mentioned except the mp3 mani... but is there a big difference in your mani then the mani that street unit is selling..

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 09:41 PM

well still gonna find out about the cams on the jdm and ecu

mx-p5

08-27-2009, 09:43 PM

my intake manifold is the same one you have, just has the VTCS butterflies removed and a mild port and polish done to it.

The one i'm selling is bone stock, great to work on and then swap out

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 09:51 PM

hey pro if you have the jdm motor then is it n/a

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 09:52 PM

and if it is then your light isn't on is it because mine is on and off but someone linked that trigger the the egr valve or even a bad cat or o2 sensor either way i can't wait to not have to see the cel orange light on the left

mx-p5

08-27-2009, 10:00 PM

n/a is naturally aspirated, so, unless it's supercharged or turbo charged, it's N/A

as to a CEL, when it IS on, head over to autozone and let em scan the car and they can tell you what the problem is

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 10:20 PM

i did but it didnt suffice with what they told me... they said it was probably my cai because i was forcing air but i didnt buy it. They all are lazy and don't want to be out in the summer heat so they said oh it's this. I went to two different ones but blamed it on the cai

mx-p5

08-27-2009, 10:21 PM

it's not the CAI.....it MIGHT be the MAF though....

I've had both the AEM CAI, and now the Injen CAI which i converted to SRI and i've had no codes concerning that.

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 10:22 PM

thank you for telling me that ha but if it's a jdm fs-ze then are you just going all motor again? any thoughts about nos or nx..? I've been contemplating after i have got everything done with a small shot

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 10:22 PM

Whats a MAF

mx-p5

08-27-2009, 10:23 PM

If it's ZE and the guy can source the ECU for it, we'll just have to see what the potential is N/A powered. Also, after talking with the guys at Corksport, to run full potential ZE, i'd also need the J-spec intake manifold and crankshaft pulley in addition to the ECU

Not sure how the ZE responds to boost, i thought i read with higher compression, it might be slightly more risky.

But, don't quote me on that

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 10:29 PM

so say we both are able to get the sport ecu, where can we get the j-spec intake manifold and is it that much of a difference with the high flow one street unit sells? what does the crankshaft pulley cost and is that an option to go after the manifold

mx-p5

08-27-2009, 10:31 PM

i have no idea the difference between the J-spec and single runner....i'd have to ask the guys at Corksport

They used to import the FS-ZE's so they know their stuff

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 10:38 PM

i tried to read what the difference was and i was confused
because i have am a visual guy and never seen what a IM looks like in person ugh

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 10:41 PM

but we have to have the sport 20 ecu in order to install the j spec IM

mx-p5

08-27-2009, 10:43 PM

honestly, you'd have to call up Corksport with the specific questions.

I know just about as much as you do when it comes to the ZE

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 10:56 PM

ill call them up tomorrow... asking if the sport 20 ecu is needed to run the intake mani and if theycan get them, if the msp is the same as the dual runner jspec IM and if they offer similar ones if not Jspec

RocKeeteR

08-27-2009, 11:18 PM

Mazda Intake Manifold
Application: Protege, Protege5, MP3, and MAZDASPEED Protege

Kit Includes:
Mazda Intake Manifold
Vacuum Line
Vacuum Tees

Port & Polish Option:
You have the option to have the runner ports machined out and polished to match the gasket and head for better flow.

Port & Polish Option:
The runner ports are machined out and polished as much as possible to match the gasket and head for better flow. Top of runners cannot be machined too much because casting is thin in those areas.
Not Ported 1
Not Ported 2
Ported 1
Ported 2

Features

Direct Bolt-On

No More Butterfly Valves (VTCS/VICS)

No More Dual Runners

No More Stock Restrictions

Four Straight Through Runners

Quicker RPM Run/Turbo Spool

Smoother Drivability

Power Through Entire Power Band

Maintain Stock Look/Setup

Port Matching & Polishing Option Available

mx-p5

08-28-2009, 06:40 AM

that's the info from SU?

Focus

08-28-2009, 06:47 AM

You can install the FS-ZE Intake on any FS, you don't need the ECU, but it is better to have. The FS-ZE Intake has an extra resonator chamber.

mx-p5

08-28-2009, 06:49 AM

and corksport told me to run the ZE ECU, i need the new connectors and crank shaft pulley, that correct?

Focus

08-28-2009, 06:51 AM

and corksport told me to run the ZE ECU, i need the new connectors and crank shaft pulley, that correct?

To run a ZE ECU you need a ZE Wiring harness. It has a special exhaust Temparature sensor. It is OBDI. And Mitsubishi connectors for the ECU. Did I mention you have to modify the ZE wiring harness because ZEs were RHD ?

mx-p5

08-28-2009, 06:53 AM

no..didn't know that

*sniff sniff* I smell RHD conversion??

Focus

08-28-2009, 06:57 AM

no..didn't know that

*sniff sniff* I smell RHD conversion??

Not really, but examples are:

Brake booster is on the other side, you have to shorten wiring. The ABS sensors are reversed, so they have to be lengthened, etc...

mx-p5

08-28-2009, 07:05 AM

oh, it's full on RHD from the engine bay as well?

RocKeeteR

08-28-2009, 11:40 AM

I talked to SU and he mentioned that you would need to purchase an after market egr pipe for it and the offer it."just haven't looked at it yet" . I've also read that some people tie off the egr pipe so old emissions are not stored back into the engine but sam said that it would trigger a CEL. He didn't know much about the J-spec intake manifold but he did say the hi flow intake mani is the same cast as the 626 manifold. He also suggested to get the car tuned after installation because of the rough idling afterwards and the different vtcs or vics "whichever the lingo is" is off fuel and air ratio. Know I am interested to hear the the Jspec Intake mani- is the same as the 626 because alot of other members seem to already have it installed or if its different after modding the 626 mani- or if its all around a different mani-

xJAZx

08-28-2009, 11:42 AM

why would you even want to buy from SU they are overpriced

RocKeeteR

08-28-2009, 11:47 AM

I havent but i'm researching what the difference is between a 626 mani and the Jspec manifold. I know the Mani- is priced high but I am more interested in getting the sport 20 intake manifold. If I can't get my hands on that bad boy then i want to find out what is the closest thing to it. And plainly, Im learning and comparing what everything is. I learn by experience then anything else which sucks lol but do you have any insight

xJAZx

08-28-2009, 11:51 AM

if your gonna get anything i would order from protege garage or corksprt, some of the prices may come out to about the same but the customer service you get will be way better and SU doesnt have a very good record with people here

RocKeeteR

08-28-2009, 11:55 AM

i checked the site and I didn't see IM do you have a link i can maybe check out

RocKeeteR

08-28-2009, 11:56 AM

sorry just found it

mx-p5

08-28-2009, 12:50 PM

corksport sells the J-Spec intake manifold for $600+

RocKeeteR

08-28-2009, 01:13 PM

wow is it worth it IYO

mx-p5

08-28-2009, 01:14 PM

i have no idea....

you talk to Josh on TMF yet?

RocKeeteR

08-28-2009, 01:23 PM

i think its too much

RocKeeteR

08-28-2009, 01:24 PM

no i haven't... is it for the exhaust or what was it for?

mx-p5

08-28-2009, 01:42 PM

He has the 626 intake manifold.

RocKeeteR

08-28-2009, 01:55 PM

oh shoot um well I'm purchasing the exhaust hopefully sometime next week but i would have to wait to buy it from him 3 weeks from now. how much was he asking for

RocKeeteR

08-28-2009, 01:59 PM

just made a name on there rocketeer..

mx-p5

08-28-2009, 03:02 PM

His isn't for sale, i was just suggesting you talk to em

RocKeeteR

08-28-2009, 03:55 PM

whats his sn

mx-p5

08-28-2009, 04:19 PM

jc-mp5

ghostbusters

08-29-2009, 07:51 AM

Rocketeer, dont u have the ze intake maniold? the ze intake manifold has a black box on top of it, some kinda resonance chamber or something.

WRT the egr throwing a CEL, when i had the 1.6 and i installed the zl-ve intake manifold, it didnt have an egr connector, so what i did was simply melt shut the end of the egr line that connected to the manifold. No CEL thrown, drove the car for about 18 months before changing the engine and never got a CEL.

I think the 626 intake manifold is different to the ze manifold.
Also, yes, i forgot to mention, all of our cars and those from japan are fwd, but i didnt realize that the harness would need modification for your cars and also, remember since all of the ze's came out of japan, it has the mandatory speed cut at 180 km/hr, which translates to about 112-113 mph.

If an option was available, I'd get an intake manifold with single runners and no shutters etc, power availability would be superior IMO...

RocKeeteR

08-30-2009, 06:27 PM

changed out my header today and it feels greeeeeat. pretty easy to do but sliced my thumb open with a knife haha so know i have a splint and a nail cut all the way through to the bed but regardless i stuck it through to get my header done then went to a care center to get a tetnaus shot.

mx-p5

08-30-2009, 06:33 PM

Glad it's in!!

How's it sound with the HKS axleback?

RocKeeteR

08-30-2009, 06:38 PM

ill try to get it on sound

RocKeeteR

08-30-2009, 06:43 PM

check your email... if you can put it on here that would be nice for others to hear

mx-p5

08-30-2009, 06:45 PM

If you setup a photobucket account, you can host both picture and video

RocKeeteR

08-30-2009, 06:51 PM

okay the video is coming from my phone which is not bad quality but not the best its like 3 or 4 mp for the video and 8mp for the camera so ill get that up tomorrow it just started raining here but did you hear it?

mx-p5

08-30-2009, 07:12 PM

not yet, got family over watching a show about "Geniuses" so can' go blasting an exhaust clip at the moment lol

RocKeeteR

08-30-2009, 11:04 PM

so i was driving around and you remember where the seal is for the 2nd o2 sensor was? well neither do i since it rocket off somewhere and now my exhaust sounds like satans beast. well good thing is there is no hole or other known leak but what really scared me finding out where the source of the leak was is that the oil pan is literally 1 inch from that welded bung and thinking that when the nut took a launch as fast as the nasa space shuttle to space... i was worried i might have a leak in the oil pan or a crack... well if i do ill find out if there is a puddle of the primordial goo under my car. But lets hope for the best. Anyways i need to find a new seal since i cant go walking around the intersection of when i first heard the ballistic missle took off. Man it was LOUD.

mx-p5

08-31-2009, 07:03 AM

it's an 02 bung cap, should be able to pick one up at the local auto parts store or exhaust shop

Did one of your buddies take it off and put it back on? Cause i even checked it before i shipped it out and it was on TIGHT

I drove around for a few thousand miles with it and never had a problem......

RocKeeteR

08-31-2009, 08:40 AM

could it have popped off because of the higher compression engine lol i'm picking one up today.

mx-p5

08-31-2009, 09:07 AM

lol...i guess anything is possible! lol

I would attribute it to one of your buddies poppin it off and not tightining it back down

Cause i gave it a crank before i brought it to you to make sure it stayed tight.

RocKeeteR

08-31-2009, 10:54 AM

no worries i still got one and I'm still excited how the car sounds and pulls just a weeee bit more

RocKeeteR

09-05-2009, 11:10 AM

whats the difference with the heat wraps? i just bought an .intake manifold

ghostbusters

09-05-2009, 05:43 PM

the heat wrap is for your header right? what kinda intake manifold is it? and wont it throw a cel without the shutter actuator?...I've been offline for a while, but i had sum semi-bad news, , , I got a job at my friend's auto mechanic shop so I wont have alot of time to search for the ecu, whenever i do get time however i will, just torn in too many directions right now, between doin work on the house and the car and making money, its tough,,,the week after this coming week i'll kinda have off thought, gonna have sum family stayin with so i may have sum time in between to dig around...will let you guys know as soon as I find something,