Bye bye turbo #2!!!

[creedns]

My 2nd stock k04 is roast big suprise. Might try and get it warrantied cuz mazda is finally admitting to shitty turbos on everything before 08 but i'm more than a bit modified. If they won't its gt28 time. Too bad i'm not rich to afford that thing!!!

[ms6acton]

wow.. 2 turbos, that sucks bud

whats your mod list?

[creedns]

Cp-e nano short ram and turbo inlet, ngr type-s bpv, cobb front mount, mr. lil guy fuel pump, turbo xs tbe, one step colder plugs (big deal right), and a full accessport tune by surgeline tuning runnin 19psi. Weird cuz i don't smoke at idle only in higher gears when i hit boost and let off the throttle. But i jumped on the dyno at surgeline the other day did a pull in 4th and filled the place with smoke. They gave me a difinitive your turbo is fucked lol

[mazdasp33d]

wow that sucks sorry to hear man

[ms6acton]

have u tried thicker oil? could just be oil leaking past your seals.

dont kno if this will help, but it cant hurt:

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123748050

[Speedkid]

Wow that sucks.

[taf0422]

yeah I would try thicker oil...Mazda has said they won't replace the turbo until they are sure that thicker oil doesn't stop the smoking

[onelsono]

that suxxx, fuck the 28, get the 3076 with a tubular manifold and external wastegate =] wit that and a good tune and ur beatin everythin on the streets, i seen one near me with that setup running like 7 0r 8psi and beetin bigturboed evos,, mad power

[coyfish]

Meh 3076 too big / risky imo. Spools so late too.

[creedns]

Haha for what i use this car for aka daily driving i don't need mad power. I'm bettin with a gt28 i can make 360-375 easy if i get it retuned. Shit on the stock k04 i made 317 at the wheels so i'm hopeful. But then i'll need a new clutch :( and i'm confident 5w-40 won't help me here lol its a TON of smoke that rolls out. I'm excited for bigger turbo but sad about the expense haha

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

A 3076 on the stock internals? They say God takes care of drunks and fools. You better hope He`s watching your motor.

[nvmsp]

Mazda gave you guys some better motors, but some cheap ass stock turbo's.

[danagirl]

^^^ nah they cheaped out on the motors as well

i have been blowing smoke at idle for the past 20k, i have gotten used to it. screw warrenty work.

[RC08MS3]

lol mazda is cheap for giving us an award winning, Wards top 10 motor?

[GoFast]

^^^ nah they cheaped out on the motors as well

i have been blowing smoke at idle for the past 20k, i have gotten used to it. screw warrenty work.

yes because the smoking turbo means the engine sucks too. (hand)

[Circle9]

The OP is fully bolted and running a tune at 19 psi. I'd only imagine it would be a matter of time before his turbo died.

Did you ever think of getting the turbo reworked yet?

[nvmsp]

^^^ nah they cheaped out on the motors as well

i have been blowing smoke at idle for the past 20k, i have gotten used to it. screw warrenty work.

Well, don't be pissed about that most turbo cars smoke a lil, mazda or not. Mine used to, it don't anymore..unless I punch it cause I have a CEL for too much fuel. Then it leaves a cloud lol. And I basically run open downpipe kinda but there is one cat, no ehxaust at all after the 1st cat.

[onelsono]

bro fuck the 28, get the 3076, it isnt that much bigger and spools maybe 500rpms later, trust me once ur car hits 3500 ur gonna be fuckin outtt.. for teh price ur gonna spend on a 28, y not spend another couple hundred for a bigger and better turbo? just think of the sound of that wastegate wide open lol

[coyfish]

Has anyone run a 3076 here on these boards without blowing for at least 5 months?? "my friend has a 10000 hp mazdaspeed" doesn't count. . .

3076 is risky business unforged

[RC08MS3]

Has anyone run a 3076 here on these boards without blowing for at least 5 months?? "my friend has a 10000 hp mazdaspeed" doesn't count. . .

3076 is risky business unforged

well, any turbo above stock is risky for an unforged motor. Hell, for some people the stock turbo tuned up is too much.

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

lol mazda is cheap for giving us an award winning, Wards top 10 motor?

There doesn`t appear to be huge amounts of "room" left for this engine to grow without needing its innards beefed up. Compared to some other companies that have reps for building engines capable of being modded like mad before you need to crack the engine open. In that respect, yes, Mazda cheaped out on us.

[nvmsp]

There doesn`t appear to be huge amounts of "room" left for this engine to grow without needing its innards beefed up. Compared to some other companies that have reps for building engines capable of being modded like mad before you need to crack the engine open. In that respect, yes, Mazda cheaped out on us.

Which goes for all the mazdaspeed models, the car looks great, runs great, but quality engine parts ehhh not so great.

[CWPspeed3]

I've spoken with my mazda dealer about the thicker oil and they told me that doesnt fix anything, its the PCV system thats causing the issues and mazda is trying to fix it currently. 5w-40 couldnt hurt but its not going to fix the smoking issue long term.

[slowtege5]

Hey just wondering what type of power k04 can take. I mean 19 psi just might be to much. Just asking

[RC08MS3]

There doesn`t appear to be huge amounts of "room" left for this engine to grow without needing its innards beefed up. Compared to some other companies that have reps for building engines capable of being modded like mad before you need to crack the engine open. In that respect, yes, Mazda cheaped out on us.


Which goes for all the mazdaspeed models, the car looks great, runs great, but quality engine parts ehhh not so great.

wait, so your pointing the finger at the motor company for you wanting to beef up a motor they didn't design for that purpose? The motor was designed to be efficient and one of the first of its kinda with new technology, not something for the weekend warrior to decide he wants to get the most HP he can out of the stock setup...... its suppose to be good on mileage, have some ass, but be economical all in one package, i think they did the job they set forth to achieve, wither you get your 350whp or not. if you want something that was ment to be crazy HP on a more stock setup, buy an Evo or a Cobra

[Circle9]

I think 18 psi is about max for a stock K04, 19 is a little high and I think the turbo would just start blowing hot air after that.

[MSMS3]

18 psi is the surge line on the stock K04 turbo map, is it not?

You can't electronically change the turbo's internal efficiency characteristics with a tune. You just make a little more power and a LOT more heat and end up toasting the turbo.

Regularly boost above the surge line and a blown turbo is not unexpected, IMHO.

Maybe Ken's reworked PG K04 might give a little more room on its map to run 19 psi safely?

[creedns]

No offense but the fuck the reworked k04. Theres been a couple tuned at surgeline with the reworked stockers and they only put down about ten more whp. Not worth 800 bucks imho. From the info i've gathered our engines if tuned right can run around 400whp and lucky for me i live near the only person actually able to tune these from what i can think of. Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong on the tunin thing

[GoSpeed3]

mazda made our turbo small intentionally for their own reasons i wish they hadnt. most engines, even other makes need proper dyno tuning. not sit at home and try to figure it ot on youre computer with a flasher, when you start modifying adding bigger turbos etc. the stock tunes are thrown out of whack and even high end internals will break at some point. even 400-500 horsepower evos dont just get there by just slapping a bunch of parts on adding fuel and driving away. most ive seen or come into contact with are dyno tuned at a real shop by people who make a living tuning.

[Circle9]

No offense but the fuck the reworked k04. Theres been a couple tuned at surgeline with the reworked stockers and they only put down about ten more whp. Not worth 800 bucks imho. From the info i've gathered our engines if tuned right can run around 400whp and lucky for me i live near the only person actually able to tune these from what i can think of. Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong on the tunin thing

You should know to not look at peak horsepower only. The reworked turbo spools a little later but holds the power almost to redline, where as the stock turbo will fall flat at 5500, which we all know. How much do your tuners charge an hour?

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

wait, so your pointing the finger at the motor company for you wanting to beef up a motor they didn't design for that purpose? The motor was designed to be efficient and one of the first of its kinda with new technology, not something for the weekend warrior to decide he wants to get the most HP he can out of the stock setup...... its suppose to be good on mileage, have some ass, but be economical all in one package, i think they did the job they set forth to achieve, wither you get your 350whp or not. if you want something that was ment to be crazy HP on a more stock setup, buy an Evo or a Cobra


When you are selling a car that is targeted at people like us, you should build the car the way that people like us need it to be. Granted, the economics of scale for a limited edition vehicle mean that it would cost to build the engine stronger from the factory, but this engine is used worldwide in multiple models, so it wouldn`t be that bad. I think every one of us would have had no problems paying two or three hundred more out the door to get a motor with a bulletproof bottom end that is ready to be seriously modded once the warranty runs out.

[speed3driver]

Try a catch can.. see what happens after a few days.. Otherwise if you don't have the money or the desire to build the internals.. you could look into the reworked k04 from protege garage i got it and it makes a noticeable amount more power than the stock turbo and runs a lot more efficiently and safely with higher power numbers like we have.
Its just another option before going gt series

[Wurf]

Try a catch can.. see what happens after a few days.. Otherwise if you don't have the money or the desire to build the internals.. you could look into the reworked k04 from protege garage i got it and it makes a noticeable amount more power than the stock turbo and runs a lot more efficiently and safely with higher power numbers like we have.
Its just another option before going gt series

+1 on this suggestion

Your situation is: DD car with stock bottom end and you have limited funds? Go reworked K04 AND a catch can setup.

[MSMS3]

No offense but the fuck the reworked k04. Theres been a couple tuned at surgeline with the reworked stockers and they only put down about ten more whp. Not worth 800 bucks imho. From the info i've gathered our engines if tuned right can run around 400whp and lucky for me i live near the only person actually able to tune these from what i can think of. Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong on the tunin thing

I don't think I understand your post. Are you saying that if your turbo is toast and have to replace it anyway, that you shouldn't get a reworked K04 rather than putting a pure stocker one back on? That does not make a lot of sense to me. Maybe I musunderstand?

As to the tune, are you saying that a fully bolted MS3 engine with a stock K04 or a reworked K04 can be tuned to 400 whp and not pop? I'd really be skeptical of that.

And why such a fanboy for Surgeline? I understand they do good work, but damn, they are not the next Messiah of MS3 mods. I though we were just talking about running one more pound (19) of boost safely? Aren't they the guys that did your tune and set you up to run 19 psi on the stock k04 in the first place? With a name like Surgeline, I would have thought they were aware that the K04's efficiency map has a surgeline of 18 psi. and pushing it beyond that is likely to make it a good boat anchor. Maybe I'm not understanding something here. We're just trying to understand and trying to help.

[MSMS3]

+1 on this suggestion

Your situation is: DD car with stock bottom end and you have limited funds? Go reworked K04 AND a catch can setup.

Super +1.

[GoFast]

No offense but the fuck the reworked k04. Theres been a couple tuned at surgeline with the reworked stockers and they only put down about ten more whp. Not worth 800 bucks imho. From the info i've gathered our engines if tuned right can run around 400whp and lucky for me i live near the only person actually able to tune these from what i can think of. Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong on the tunin thing

a little bit off here....

The reworked K04 wasn't to make more power in itself. It was made to allow the possibility of more power than the stock.

[MSMS3]

a little bit off here....

The reworked K04 wasn't to make more power in itself. It was made to allow the possibility of more power than the stock.

Great point.

[daonly1around]

oooh nooo... i mod the F*** out of my car.. why is my turbo going bad? I'm only running more PSI and more horse power than what it's designed for.

Come on people, you heavily mod your car what do you expect? No sympathy for you man. I hope you DON"T get it covered under warranty as you shouldn't. you have to pay to play. And this is geared just to you just everyone else who also complains about the car when they are adding power to it that it wasn't designed for.

end rant.

[RC08MS3]

When you are selling a car that is targeted at people like us, you should build the car the way that people like us need it to be. Granted, the economics of scale for a limited edition vehicle mean that it would cost to build the engine stronger from the factory, but this engine is used worldwide in multiple models, so it wouldn`t be that bad. I think every one of us would have had no problems paying two or three hundred more out the door to get a motor with a bulletproof bottom end that is ready to be seriously modded once the warranty runs out.

the car is targeted towards us, the motor in the other hand is used in multiple vehicles, ones that having a forged, "bulletproof" block isnt going to be cost effective for. you have a forged crank, i think you can take it from there

[onelsono]

I think 18 psi is about max for a stock K04, 19 is a little high and I think the turbo would just start blowing hot air after that.

not true im spiking 22 and holding 20 all day and trust me it isnt hot air, lol my freind has a speed6 and he pulled his wastegate line for fun one day, the car was boostin like crazzzy, it was a fuckin animal, spinnnin all 4 in 2nd, but that was for like a half hour then he pluged the line in again, just cause by the end of the day the whole car would of exploded lol

[creedns]

You should know to not look at peak horsepower only. The reworked turbo spools a little later but holds the power almost to redline, where as the stock turbo will fall flat at 5500, which we all know. How much do your tuners charge an hour?

$100 an hour. Worth it though. Tim is a genius, he started pdx tuning years ago and basically made it what it is today

[creedns]

Try a catch can.. see what happens after a few days.. Otherwise if you don't have the money or the desire to build the internals.. you could look into the reworked k04 from protege garage i got it and it makes a noticeable amount more power than the stock turbo and runs a lot more efficiently and safely with higher power numbers like we have.
Its just another option before going gt series

Already got a baffled catch can and a new pcv system not from mazda though

[creedns]

I don't think I understand your post. Are you saying that if your turbo is toast and have to replace it anyway, that you shouldn't get a reworked K04 rather than putting a pure stocker one back on? That does not make a lot of sense to me. Maybe I musunderstand?

As to the tune, are you saying that a fully bolted MS3 engine with a stock K04 or a reworked K04 can be tuned to 400 whp and not pop? I'd really be skeptical of that.

And why such a fanboy for Surgeline? I understand they do good work, but damn, they are not the next Messiah of MS3 mods. I though we were just talking about running one more pound (19) of boost safely? Aren't they the guys that did your tune and set you up to run 19 psi on the stock k04 in the first place? With a name like Surgeline, I would have thought they were aware that the K04's efficiency map has a surgeline of 18 psi. and pushing it beyond that is likely to make it a good boat anchor. Maybe I'm not understanding something here. We're just trying to understand and trying to help.

No i'm not gonna get another stocker i'm gettin a gt28. As for surgeline they told me 19 on a k04 is pushin it but it'd be doable for a bit. And as far as the whole fanboy thing they are the only shop that can do a tune right now and make it safe where as a standback and uni chip just sorta trick the ecu which isn't what i'm lookin to do

[Darth Vader]

not true im spiking 22 and holding 20 all day and trust me it isnt hot air, lol my freind has a speed6 and he pulled his wastegate line for fun one day, the car was boostin like crazzzy, it was a fuckin animal, spinnnin all 4 in 2nd, but that was for like a half hour then he pluged the line in again, just cause by the end of the day the whole car would of exploded lol

Save this post so you aren't owner #2 of either of these cars, lol(thumb)

[Wurf]

No i'm not gonna get another stocker i'm gettin a gt28. As for surgeline they told me 19 on a k04 is pushin it but it'd be doable for a bit. And as far as the whole fanboy thing they are the only shop that can do a tune right now and make it safe where as a standback and uni chip just sorta trick the ecu which isn't what i'm lookin to do

Well I think I've read all I need to know here. Standback sort tricks the ECU eh?
Best of luck to you - unsubd'

[onelsono]

Save this post so you aren't owner #2 of either of these cars, lol(thumb)

wutt?

[elvis]

Hey dudes; I own an 07--so should I invest in an extended warranty b/c it is coming up and I am thinking about modding...only minor mods so far....CAI, RACE PIPE, MOUNTS,

and what is PCV??

[MSMS3]

Well I think I've read all I need to know here. Standback sort tricks the ECU eh?
Best of luck to you - unsubd'

Me too. You can lead a horse to water . . .

[Circle9]

Hey dudes; I own an 07--so should I invest in an extended warranty b/c it is coming up and I am thinking about modding...only minor mods so far....CAI, RACE PIPE, MOUNTS,

and what is PCV??

My warranty on my '07 just expired, screw getting an extended one. I can just about fix all the problems that may arise, and if I blow my motor, I'll just go forged.

[RC08MS3]

My warranty on my '07 just expired, screw getting an extended one. I can just about fix all the problems that may arise, and if I blow my motor, I'll just go forged.

(rockon)

im going forged soon, and im only at 34k

[Darth Vader]

Positive Crankcase Ventilation, the first emissions control system, emerged in about 1968. Engine vacuum is used to draw combustion by products out of the crankcase. Always an issue with forced induction cars because of the extra differential pressure of boost, iow, not just vacuum in the engine but positive manifold pressure too. This tends to work PCV systems hard.

[onelsono]

yo i no i tld u 2 go with a 3076 but dnt i got tuned yesterday and my tuner said to do the 28 and a meth kit, and u can run 20psi all day with no worries to ur pistons and rods, meth halps alottt with these cars, it allows u to run so much more boost, u no wut ur car will feel like on 20psi with meth from a 28? shit will be ouuttt..

[Circle9]

wow like no way mebe u shoud do tht insted of goin wit the 3076 cause it will make safr powr....? shiit wil be outt amazin!!!?....? like yea, no?..

[slowtege5]

somebody explain how meth injection makes your car safer. I don't understand that.

[MS3MB]

Cp-e nano short ram and turbo inlet, ngr type-s bpv, cobb front mount, mr. lil guy fuel pump, turbo xs tbe, one step colder plugs (big deal right), and a full accessport tune by surgeline tuning runnin 19psi. Weird cuz i don't smoke at idle only in higher gears when i hit boost and let off the throttle. But i jumped on the dyno at surgeline the other day did a pull in 4th and filled the place with smoke. They gave me a difinitive your turbo is fucked lol

Lol dude how did you like Surgeline I stopped by there the other day and they had a sweet STi in there. Also have seem some youtube videos of their MS3 tunes.

Quick question did they put you on the AWD dyno cuz from these 2 videos of speed3s I have seen from this place it looks like they are on AWD dynos.

[Darth Vader]

somebody explain how meth injection makes your car safer. I don't understand that.

Absolutely, it does. Look at a Reno Air Race aircraft engine. They are pumping hundreds of gallons of ADI (meth) through those things so they can run gigantic boost without blowing the barrels off the engines. It's always had, as it's main purpose, to allow you to run more boost and more timing advance.

That said, the way some people sound in this thread, I expect more blown-up engine threads soon. :D

[slowtege5]

Cool, it was a question that i didn't know the answer to, wasn't trying to be funny, thanks for the info.

[creedns]

Lol dude how did you like Surgeline I stopped by there the other day and they had a sweet STi in there. Also have seem some youtube videos of their MS3 tunes.

Quick question did they put you on the AWD dyno cuz from these 2 videos of speed3s I have seen from this place it looks like they are on AWD dynos.

I've gone there a bunch they have some sick shit the owners sti is 490 at the wheels lol and yeah they toss ya on the awd dyno

[creedns]

There is alot of turds in the punch bowl on this thread lol oh well. I'm not gonna run very much boost for awhile just to get the feel for things. Defeats the purpose of bigger turbo but until i get all the shit i need i'm not gonna go crazy with it

[onelsono]

Absolutely, it does. Look at a Reno Air Race aircraft engine. They are pumping hundreds of gallons of ADI (meth) through those things so they can run gigantic boost without blowing the barrels off the engines. It's always had, as it's main purpose, to allow you to run more boost and more timing advance.

That said, the way some people sound in this thread, I expect more blown-up engine threads soon. :D

lol thank u, im luvn it... im beginning to dislike this forum more and more, alot of ppl who dont know a whole lot

[Circle9]

If you want some blow-up engine threads, just visit MSF

[creedns]

Well somethin happened today. Don't drive it hard anymore cuz of the whole turbo thing. Anyways get home notice i'm smokin pop the hood oil is everywhere mostly the passenger side all the way back to my control arms all my oil is gone filter is on tight drain plug is in no holes in the bottom of the block which is a good sign. Whole rear hatch is covered in oil from the exhaust all the way up to the spoiler. Pulled the spark plugs the cylinders are clean. Dunno what the fuck is wrong but i'm far from happy

[Speedkid]

Thats weird.

[Darth Vader]

Two things leap to mind immediately: Check the hardline to the turbo for a fractures or leaking. Or a total failure of the one-way valve on the PCV, exposing the crankcase to boost pressure. Either will cause oil all over the engine bay, the oil on the back could be just driftback from the engine bay, with that much out.

[MSMS3]

Two things leap to mind immediately: Check the hardline to the turbo for a fractures or leaking. Or a total failure of the one-way valve on the PCV, exposing the crankcase to boost pressure. Either will cause oil all over the engine bay, the oil on the back could be just driftback from the engine bay, with that much out.

+1 Good old school diagnosis of a turbo oil line rupture or failure, or a less likely possible malfunction of PCV system.

I'm wondering if OP got an oil pressure warning light, since it seems from his post there is no oil left in the crankcase.

[Wehrmacht]

yo i no i tld u 2 go with a 3076 but dnt i got tuned yesterday and my tuner said to do the 28 and a meth kit, and u can run 20psi all day with no worries to ur pistons and rods, meth halps alottt with these cars, it allows u to run so much more boost, u no wut ur car will feel like on 20psi with meth from a 28? shit will be ouuttt..


(bling) How do people that write like this afford ... well much of anything?

[creedns]

(bling) How do people that write like this afford ... well much of anything?

HAHAHAHAHAH i almost peed on that one good job sir

[creedns]

No oil pressure light. Since i have the bsd mod the extra 2 quarts of oil don't show up on the dip stick. Towin it to tigard tomorrow. Lets hope for the best cheapest possible fix!!!

[ymic]

lol thank u, im luvn it... im beginning to dislike this forum more and more, alot of ppl who dont know a whole lot

Like you?

[onelsono]

Like you?

like me? u think i dnt know a hole lot, i wish u lived near me so we could lock it up and then well c who knows sumthin.

[onelsono]

(bling) How do people that write like this afford ... well much of anything?

looks to me like i can afford a hole lot more than u their guy, that mod list is a bit low, dnt talk shit if u dnt no shit.

[MSMS3]

looks to me like i can afford a hole lot more than u their guy, that mod list is a bit low, dnt talk shit if u dnt no shit.

That vast base of knowledge does not seem to include English grammar and spelling. Maybe I'm wrong, but poor communication skills suggest gaps in knowledge elsewhere.

I have difficulty in equating mod lists as proof of knowledge. Money can be spent wisely or foolishly. Some people may have more money than sense. It's not the length of the list of mods that suggests knowledge, but rather the wisdom of how those mods fit together. Maybe a carefully selected, well-integrated list of mods that function in harmony to achieve a specific goal might be a better demonstration of knowledge? Maybe less is more?

[GoFast]

looks to me like i can afford a whole lot more than you their(there) guy,(.) That mod list is a bit low, don't talk shit if u don't know shit.

based on what? I think he is referring to your posts that look like they were constructed by a 12 year old gangster wanna-be chick in a text message. Seriously, use spell check, or are you trying to be cool when you assemble words and sentences like that?

[RC08MS3]

looks to me like i can afford a hole lot more than u their guy, that mod list is a bit low, dnt talk shit if u dnt no shit.

you dont have a mod list......(squinty)

[Mid_Life_Crisis]

Like me? You think I don`t know a whole lot. I wish you lived near me so we could lock it up and then we`d see who knows something.

"lock it up"? Is this a challenge to a race or a fight? I just don`t watch enough trash talking fool movies to understand what this means. In either case, I just love seeing people use the internet to call out others who live half a continent away. Damn, talk about a safe way to mouth off.

[Kain]

I loves me the innanets.

[derspi]

I loves me the innanets.

Yesh, the insta-nets is always awesome!

This thread once again, proves that it's not how big it is but how you use it that counts.

[Sawce]

I can has many <3's for the interwebs please? (eekdance)

Not so many <3's for the interweb tough guys though... (scratch)

[onelsono]

man tell me you guys dont know what "lock it up" means.. have any of u been to like ligit street races, like money runs goin up to well in the 1000's, locking it up means linning the cars up and gettin ready to run. Thats what we call racing out here in NY. If you wanna race you ask the guy to lock it up.

Punctuation?? this is a forum bro not an english essay lol
Gangster? no i where aero, express nd shit like that and i drive a mazda lol
Mod List- i dnt usually tell people all the things i have done, simply b/c i do race alot, and i keep that stuff a secret, if you wana no right now i have instaled turbo-xs dp + rp, magnaflow cat-back, cobb sri, cobb turbo inlet, forge bpv, upgraded fuelpump, a custom tune, droped on H&R springs, cp-e towplate, put on tenzo dc-5 version1 18X8 today actually, with new rubber. and the FMIC, methanol kit, exhaust manifold, and sum other things are comming in the winter, tryin 2 see how much power i can get out of this ko4. and thats about it intill the Ko goes than its off to bigger and better things =]
and then i kinda wanna make the thing awd, maybe DG motors can hook me up wit a set up like theirs, it will cost alot but it would be sick.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/onelsono/Picture440.jpg
and thats wut she looked like last week.
happy?

[///M Compact]

man tell me you guys dont know what "lock it up" means.. have any of u been to like ligit street races, like money runs goin up to well in the 1000's, locking it up means linning the cars up and gettin ready to run. Thats what we call racing out here in NY. If you wanna race you ask the guy to lock it up.

Punctuation?? this is a forum bro not an english essay lol
Gangster? no i where aero, express nd shit like that and i drive a mazda lol
Mod List- i dnt usually tell people all the things i have done, simply b/c i do race alot, and i keep that stuff a secret, if you wana no right now i have instaled turbo-xs dp + rp, magnaflow cat-back, cobb sri, cobb turbo inlet, forge bpv, upgraded fuelpump, a custom tune, droped on H&R springs, cp-e towplate, put on tenzo dc-5 version1 18X8 today actually, with new rubber. and the FMIC, methanol kit, exhaust manifold, and sum other things are comming in the winter, tryin 2 see how much power i can get out of this ko4. and thats about it intill the Ko goes than its off to bigger and better things =]
and then i kinda wanna make the thing awd, maybe DG motors can hook me up wit a set up like theirs, it will cost alot but it would be sick.

Can someone please translate? I think it's early Neanderthal.

[onelsono]

Can someone please translate? I think it's early Neanderthal.

wut dont you understand?

[zinger002]

that was like listening to a kid with adhd but i somehow understood all of it...

[onelsono]

that was like listening to a kid with adhd but i somehow understood all of it...

tru

[hawaii3]

mean da drama

[creedns]

I bet my dad is stronger than all your dads combined so there end of arguement

[onelsono]

I bet my dad is stronger than all your dads combined so there end of arguement

lol, nice,, well i c theri a hole lot of hating going on so im done with this thread,, but if your still undecided, if your building the car more for track purposes, then it would prob be best going with a bigger turbo just cause you dont really need to worry about spool time at the track, but if you want a good street car then its all about spool time, therefore the 28 would be your best bet, but on the other hand a bigger turbo would allow you to keep out of boost alot more on the street so youd get better everyday driving mpg's.. either way id do meth so its safer. good luck with it man, either way the car is going to move..

[creedns]

Turns out cylinder one has a cracked piston. Forced to go forged. I'm fucking let down right now. Neat

[onelsono]

ehh dahm man that sucks bad,, looks like you got one serious build ahead of you.. good luck with it man.. how did you find out it was cracked?

[creedns]

Bleed down compression test. Cylinders holdin 85% compression. Hopin to come out around 3 grand for everything. Gettin quotes next week

[Circle9]

Hmmm, Surgline Tuning FTL?

[creedns]

Hmmm, Surgline Tuning FTL?

I'd probably say runnin untuned for over a year ftl. Theres guys runnin more power than me just fine. One of those unlucky draw sort of deals

[Circle9]

wow.. 2 turbos, that sucks bud

whats your mod list?


Cp-e nano short ram and turbo inlet, ngr type-s bpv, cobb front mount, mr. lil guy fuel pump, turbo xs tbe, one step colder plugs (big deal right), and a full accessport tune by surgeline tuning runnin 19psi. Weird cuz i don't smoke at idle only in higher gears when i hit boost and let off the throttle. But i jumped on the dyno at surgeline the other day did a pull in 4th and filled the place with smoke. They gave me a difinitive your turbo is fucked lol

You said you were tuned, by Surgeline.

[creedns]

I am now. However when i put my exhaust intercooler etc on i wasn't cuz they werent around til fairly recently. John at ptp said clylinder 1 cracking is becoming more and more common

[NJ MSP]

Sorry I'm jumping into this conversation real late, and wished I owned a ms3, but me entering college and a whole mess of future debt to student loans won't permit me. Anyway, my buddy lost 2 stock turbos on his completly stock ms3 out of just shitty luck so don't beat yourself up. People at the local Mazda Dealership have admitted to us Mazda went "kinda cheap...really cheap" on recent cars which I beleive was recently stated and went on to say that in his opinion the ms3 comes pretty muched maxed out already stock. Anyway if I can give my two-cents on turbo advice, I'd go with the GT28 you don't need anything bigger for a dd. anyway gl and I wish you the best.

[NJ MSP]

P.S. I would also invest in an AEM meth kit if I were you. It made all the difference on my car and other close friends of mine, and the installation wasn't very hard to do either.

[ymic]

like me? u think i dnt know a hole lot, i wish u lived near me so we could lock it up and then well c who knows sumthin.

If your driving skills match that of your English skills, I'll bring my Accord.

Making comments about pulling vacuum lines and "boostin like crazzzy" really professes your knowledge of cars too. Respect is earned, you can't possibly expect people to think you're intelligent and know what you're talking about making the posts that you do. (uhm)

[creedns]

Goin forged unfortunately. Good bye lots of money. You will be missed

[onelsono]

If your driving skills match that of your English skills, I'll bring my Accord.

Making comments about pulling vacuum lines and "boostin like crazzzy" really professes your knowledge of cars too. Respect is earned, you can't possibly expect people to think you're intelligent and know what you're talking about making the posts that you do. (uhm)

o werd, my english skills? looks like yours skills are low not mine their guy. I said my freind pulled the wastegate line on his speed6. I never pulled my line. im not stupid. The argument on this thread has been squashed, why the fuck you coming out and talking now. Just keep quiet theirs no reason to continue this, u think i dont know shit thats great, i dont care wtf u think. Your looking like the clown right now not me. O and you can bring your accord and your 3 anytime my man, ill be glad to destroy either one of em.

[Sport6]

o werd, my english skills? looks like yours skills are low not mine their guy. I said my freind pulled the wastegate line on his speed6. I never pulled my line. im not stupid. The argument on this thread has been squashed, why the fuck you coming out and talking now. Just keep quiet theirs no reason to continue this, u think i dont know shit thats great, i dont care wtf u think. Your looking like the clown right now not me. O and you can bring your accord and your 3 anytime my man, ill be glad to destroy either one of em.

their ≠ there.

[MSMS3]

o werd, my english skills? looks like yours skills are low not mine their guy. I said my freind pulled the wastegate line on his speed6. I never pulled my line. im not stupid. The argument on this thread has been squashed, why the fuck you coming out and talking now. Just keep quiet theirs no reason to continue this, u think i dont know shit thats great, i dont care wtf u think. Your looking like the clown right now not me. O and you can bring your accord and your 3 anytime my man, ill be glad to destroy either one of em.

Childish gibberish not constructive to the subject of the thread, IMHO. Sort of like bragging "my dick is bigger than your dick so that makes me smarter and more believable." No cred points for that.

Op nailed it - he ran high boost untuned for over a year. Gradual, progressive damage leading to a final catastrophic failure. He's going to rebulld and go forged so he can run that high boost safely. Presumably that will mean connecting rods with more beef around the wrist pin. Sounds like the best way to make lemonade out of lemons, so to speak.

[creedns]

I actually was runnin stock boost prior to the tune but i'm sure it all added up to the breakage. Well kinda stock boost with the turbo xs setup the damn turbo just wants to keep buildin boost so it cut out alot. And i had one accidental 6th to 2nd downshift long ago that coulda started me on a slippery slope lol

[Circle9]

Hehe, 6th to 2nd? How do you do that?

[creedns]

Not payin attention went to race my buddy slammed it over too far haha smart one i know

[Circle9]

(squinty)

[creedns]

Part of my problem i was just informed is a leaky injector seal which is sounding so fucking common on these cars that mazda can go fuck themselves for not helpin people out. I also have a fucked up intake valve and theres more shit they still need to look at. If my rods and pistons check out i might just sell this fucking piece of shit car i'm so fed up with the fucking thing!!!

[Wurf]

Part of my problem i was just informed is a leaky injector seal which is sounding so fucking common on these cars that mazda can go fuck themselves for not helpin people out. I also have a fucked up intake valve and theres more shit they still need to look at. If my rods and pistons check out i might just sell this fucking piece of shit car i'm so fed up with the fucking thing!!!

Not a fucking bad idea. Go buy a fucking WRX and fucking post fucking messages on fucking NASIOC instead of here. Happy happy fucky fucky!!

[controlo]

Not a fucking bad idea. Go buy a fucking WRX and fucking post fucking messages on fucking NASIOC instead of here. Happy happy fucky fucky!!

(inout)

[onelsono]

part of my problem i was just informed is a leaky injector seal which is sounding so fucking common on these cars that mazda can go fuck themselves for not helpin people out. I also have a fucked up intake valve and theres more shit they still need to look at. If my rods and pistons check out i might just sell this fucking piece of shit car i'm so fed up with the fucking thing!!!

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