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drzcrazychulo4u
07-18-2009, 02:20 AM
hi everyone ok so first here is the story: i heard clicking from the front and heard a few different reason it could be clicking. my thoughts were either an axle or motor mount. long story short i was driving and i dropped the axle it just made a loud clank. i pulled over right away and popped my hood turns out my motor is sagging to the tranny side and the axle popped and tore threw the cv joint rubber thing. i will have pictures tomorrow to show what i mean... i personally couldnt believe it when it happened and when i saw what it actually was... keep in mind this car is brand new it is a 09 mazdaspeed 3 with 3572 miles. only mods are cobb turbo inlet, cobb short ram intake, and fmic.

bigdaddy
07-18-2009, 02:29 AM
yeah...I can hear clicking, but its usually only when I go over the bumps dividing the lanes. And its only on the driver side. I am definitely making an appt. at my maz. dealer tom! I def. dont want this to happen to me. It has, however, been happening for quite some time though.

drzcrazychulo4u
07-18-2009, 02:47 AM
bro as a ms3 owner i only recommend 1 thing make an appt asap i made mine one wed for this up comin monday and look what happen !!!!! it was minor and i thought it was nothing and now look.

jam_asian85
07-18-2009, 04:15 AM
hope you remove your mods before you go in for your appt.

BillTheCat
07-18-2009, 08:58 AM
hope you remove your mods before you go in for your appt.

QFE, times eleventy billion.

leadf00t
07-20-2009, 11:07 AM
QFE, times eleventy billion.

Yeah, what he said !!

So is this the infamous tranny mount bolt issue, or something else ? I will be interested to see what he finds out.

speed3driver
07-20-2009, 11:28 AM
How do i fix the clicking noise

8.5MS3
07-20-2009, 11:35 AM
Its got something to do with the axle/cv joint assembly. theres a thread about it on MSF. guy had the same issue and they replaced his axle assemblies. I just noticed i got it about a week ago...probably from all the autox i do. only 7500 miles on the odo. will be bringing it to my mod friendly dealer soon...

derspi
07-20-2009, 04:36 PM
^^

I went through that thread and the guy from Toronto that got his dealer to replace the entire driver side axle and associated bits had no clicking noises for ONE WHOLE DAY after the new axle but the clicking came back by day 2.

8.5MS3
07-20-2009, 04:42 PM
240kr has the same thing, hes going to a dealer this week as am i. I will report back when everything gets resolved, or my engine falls out...whichever comes first

12secondhatch
07-20-2009, 05:00 PM
i just noticed this today

H3br3w_Ham3r
07-20-2009, 05:33 PM
Clicking as in over bumps? Or just normal driving? Is it a metallic sounding or does it sound like plastic? Too bad this could be a million things clicking under the hood. Our engine clicks at idle hope you don't think thats what it was.

SallySpeed3
07-20-2009, 06:50 PM
Clicking as in over bumps? Or just normal driving? Is it a metallic sounding or does it sound like plastic? Too bad this could be a million things clicking under the hood. Our engine clicks at idle hope you don't think thats what it was.

And to add to that. This car makes more noises than any other car I've ever driven.

8.5MS3
07-20-2009, 07:26 PM
For me its a clicking/grinding at takeoff. Start from a stop, go into 1st or reverse, when the engine has some load on it you can hear what would be the equivalent of the engine flexing against something metal, as you are moving in 1st blip the throttle strongly, as the weight of the car shifts back and forth you can hear a clicking/grinding noise coming from what seems like the wheel area. I have it on the left, others have it on the right...hope this helps

matsuda
07-20-2009, 07:36 PM
Clicking as in over bumps? Or just normal driving? Is it a metallic sounding or does it sound like plastic? Too bad this could be a million things clicking under the hood. Our engine clicks at idle hope you don't think thats what it was.

No, it's not engine noise.

It seems to be related to the transmission and/or driveshafts being loaded/unloaded. I don't think that it's caused directly by engine movement.

matsuda
07-20-2009, 07:40 PM
For me its a clicking/grinding at takeoff. Start from a stop, go into 1st or reverse, when the engine has some load on it you can hear what would be the equivalent of the engine flexing against something metal, as you are moving in 1st blip the throttle strongly, as the weight of the car shifts back and forth you can hear a clicking/grinding noise coming from what seems like the wheel area. I have it on the left, others have it on the right...hope this helps

Try this if you can:

Park the car on a level surface, put it in 1st gear with the parking brake off.
Open the hood, grab something solid in the front of the engine compartment and try rocking the car back and forth.

Can you hear the same noise?

derspi
07-20-2009, 07:40 PM
For me its a clicking/grinding at takeoff. Start from a stop, go into 1st or reverse, when the engine has some load on it you can hear what would be the equivalent of the engine flexing against something metal, as you are moving in 1st blip the throttle strongly, as the weight of the car shifts back and forth you can hear a clicking/grinding noise coming from what seems like the wheel area. I have it on the left, others have it on the right...hope this helps

I had it recently too. Would let out a noticeable metallic "click" when I let off the gas in mostly 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear sometimes even in 4th but it all depends on how much load you're putting into it. This noise coincided with when I first had my CPE 60-duro mount put in and although it was really only intermittent at first, a couple of weeks ago, it got much more frequent. To the point that I thought the rear MM had come loose or something was wrong with it. Of course, nothing was wrong with it nor was it loose so I just put the stock MM on for now to see what would happen. Lo and behold, I haven't had the click come back at all so far and it's been just over a week now.

8.5MS3
07-20-2009, 07:50 PM
I have the cp-e mount as well but that wouldnt really have an affect on the flexing of the front wheel area (tranny mount??) theres a tsb on older mazda 3's. if anything it should prevent that type of creaking since the engine is being held back from flexing, keeping everything in proper geometry....then again i could be completely wrong

derspi
07-20-2009, 07:54 PM
Try this if you can:

Park the car on a level surface, put it in 1st gear with the parking brake off.
Open the hood, grab something solid in the front of the engine compartment and try rocking the car back and forth.

Can you hear the same noise?

When the car was on the lift, we gave the front wheels a few rotations with the car off and it made the same sound. Most definitely coming from either within the tranny or the CV joint. Could also be a bearing issue but the clicking isn't constant nor does it change with speed - it is most definitely load related.

derspi
07-20-2009, 07:58 PM
I have the cp-e mount as well but that wouldnt really have an affect on the flexing of the front wheel area (tranny mount??) theres a tsb on older mazda 3's. if anything it should prevent that type of creaking since the engine is being held back from flexing, keeping everything in proper geometry....then again i could be completely wrong

I know, it makes no friggin' sense to me either. I went ahead and put the stock MM back on thinking that if I needed to go in for warranty work, the CPE MM isn't going to help my cause. But to my surprise, the sound is gone for now, I hope it doesn't crop up down the road and/or when I get my ETD installed. Can't stand how much the engine moves when I'm shifting with the stock rear MM though.

FYI, I have a friend who has the same issue but he's running CS inserts.

8.5MS3
07-20-2009, 08:00 PM
Try this if you can:

Park the car on a level surface, put it in 1st gear with the parking brake off.
Open the hood, grab something solid in the front of the engine compartment and try rocking the car back and forth.

Can you hear the same noise?

I hear a creaking sound, not as lound but its there. but wouldnt that just be the gears being loaded one way or the other? the creaking i hear is when the car begins to move. now that i think about it it could be anything, slack in the gears (hope not), clutch begining to show wear (probably not), flex in the suspension (hope not), cv joints (same deal). any of these scenarios are not good.....

but some are experiencing this in the right wheel area...that at least should eliminate the tranny...so its suspension, axles, or cv joints....ideas?

H3br3w_Ham3r
07-20-2009, 08:56 PM
I hear a creaking sound, not as lound but its there. but wouldnt that just be the gears being loaded one way or the other? the creaking i hear is when the car begins to move. now that i think about it it could be anything, slack in the gears (hope not), clutch begining to show wear (probably not), flex in the suspension (hope not), cv joints (same deal). any of these scenarios are not good.....

but some are experiencing this in the right wheel area...that at least should eliminate the tranny...so its suspension, axles, or cv joints....ideas?

I think the problem could be a bunch of forum members getting excited about one isolated incident. We've seen motor mounts fail before but not this. Lets see if it happens again and then we can all panic (attn).

8.5MS3
07-20-2009, 10:56 PM
O I'm not panicking at all...just pissed that this car is a potential rattlebox with bad cv joints or whatever at 7500 miles. Where the fuck was quality control when these rolled off the assembly line??

matsuda
07-20-2009, 11:26 PM
I think the problem could be a bunch of forum members getting excited about one isolated incident. We've seen motor mounts fail before but not this. Lets see if it happens again and then we can all panic (attn).

One? Right now, I am counting 3 (myself included).

matsuda
07-20-2009, 11:27 PM
When the car was on the lift, we gave the front wheels a few rotations with the car off and it made the same sound. Most definitely coming from either within the tranny or the CV joint. Could also be a bearing issue but the clicking isn't constant nor does it change with speed - it is most definitely load related.

Were you able to verify that the CV boots are OK?

turbo23
07-20-2009, 11:33 PM
I have clicking noise. But i do not believe it is from the CV joint area. I can hear it when idle, but under power my car is too loud to hear it. It def sounds engine, but there hasnt been around noticable problems. I also have all my mounts replaced. I just did my AWR passenger mount today.

derspi
07-20-2009, 11:33 PM
Were you able to verify that the CV boots are OK?

Boots looked fine, nothing wrong from a visual standpoint and there were no obvious signs of leakage.

H3br3w_Ham3r
07-21-2009, 01:10 AM
One? Right now, I am counting 3 (myself included).

Your engine has fallen over to the side and drivetrain was damaged? I'm sure lots of people hear clicking. I get a tiny metal click from a start sometime but usually not.

Super Unique
07-21-2009, 07:53 PM
cv joints make a very distinct noise when they are loose, and it is more pronounced while making a turn, and not noticeable at all in a straight line until it's too late. If your getting it in a straight line I would say it's not them.

One thing I did notice while checking my car out recently (due to noise in front which turned out to be broken battery tray bracket due to cobb intake mount) the passenger side half shaft has a slip joint between the differential housing and the carrier bearing before going into the passenger side axle, this slip joint seems to have quite a bit of loose play left and right. Perhaps this is what your hearing. But I can't honestly say it would make a noise in straight line forces.

The only way the cv joints should be making any noise is if the boots are torn or contaminated by dirt, which is very , very unusual for a car with such low mileage.

liquidflem
07-23-2009, 01:16 PM
Yeah, what he said !!

So is this the infamous tranny mount bolt issue, or something else ? I will be interested to see what he finds out.

What is this tranny mount bolt issue?

liquidflem
07-23-2009, 05:12 PM
Ok, so does this sound like the same issue? I have an apt. this Saturday. I guess i should take my corksport inserts out too.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123747719

One of my friend's said he thought it might be the clutch throw out bearing, but i have since ruled this out since it doesnt make any noise when it is not in gear and makes the same noise when accelerating or decelerating. It does it almost everytime i put the car in reverse and start moving. Car now has ~8.5k miles on it.


I had it recently too. Would let out a noticeable metallic "click" when I let off the gas in mostly 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear sometimes even in 4th but it all depends on how much load you're putting into it. This noise coincided with when I first had my CPE 60-duro mount put in and although it was really only intermittent at first, a couple of weeks ago, it got much more frequent. To the point that I thought the rear MM had come loose or something was wrong with it. Of course, nothing was wrong with it nor was it loose so I just put the stock MM on for now to see what would happen. Lo and behold, I haven't had the click come back at all so far and it's been just over a week now.

This describes my problem almost exactly... I can say i remember this happening occasionally, but now MUCH more frequent now that i have the corksport inserts.

liquidflem
07-23-2009, 05:55 PM
hi everyone ok so first here is the story: i heard clicking from the front and heard a few different reason it could be clicking. my thoughts were either an axle or motor mount. long story short i was driving and i dropped the axle it just made a loud clank. i pulled over right away and popped my hood turns out my motor is sagging to the tranny side and the axle popped and tore threw the cv joint rubber thing. i will have pictures tomorrow to show what i mean... i personally couldnt believe it when it happened and when i saw what it actually was... keep in mind this car is brand new it is a 09 mazdaspeed 3 with 3572 miles. only mods are cobb turbo inlet, cobb short ram intake, and fmic.

Did you ever end up taking pics?

Edit:// sorry for the triple post ;x

liquidflem
07-25-2009, 04:41 AM
I took my car into Millennium Mazda today and showed them the sound that I think we are all talking about. They had it for about an hour and said that they think it's the ABS pump making the noise and not to worry about it. I'm taking it to Capital Mazda in Cary, NC next Saturday for a second opinion.

8.5MS3
07-26-2009, 03:40 AM
well i figured out my clicking/creaking noise. it was a combination of a click from the cobb sri mounting bracket and the worm clamps on my tip tapping against the ecu/battery box as the engine rocked a bit under load

derspi
07-26-2009, 12:03 PM
I took my car into Millennium Mazda today and showed them the sound that I think we are all talking about. They had it for about an hour and said that they think it's the ABS pump making the noise and not to worry about it. I'm taking it to Capital Mazda in Cary, NC next Saturday for a second opinion.

What kind of diagnosis is that - pretty obvious they're just giving you the run around. Why would the ABS pump make an obvious metallic click/clunk sound?

You mentioned that you have the CS inserts, did you take those out and put back on the stock MM? If you haven't, I'd suggest you give that a try first as it seems to have worked for me. It's been well over 2 weeks now and the clicking noises have not returned.

liquidflem
07-26-2009, 12:12 PM
What kind of diagnosis is that - pretty obvious they're just giving you the run around. Why would the ABS pump make an obvious metallic click/clunk sound?

You mentioned that you have the CS inserts, did you take those out and put back on the stock MM? If you haven't, I'd suggest you give that a try first as it seems to have worked for me. It's been well over 2 weeks now and the clicking noises have not returned.

I think that is a good idea, but i tried taking the inserts out and cannot seem to get the damn MM back out. The 3 bolts holding the bracket on are so tight that i can't loosen them.

Nliiitend1
07-26-2009, 01:03 PM
I think that is a good idea, but i tried taking the inserts out and cannot seem to get the damn MM back out. The 3 bolts holding the bracket on are so tight that i can't loosen them.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Category.taf?CategoryID=108

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/45200-45299/45252-t.gif

liquidflem
07-26-2009, 02:00 PM
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Category.taf?CategoryID=108

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/45200-45299/45252-t.gif

Thanks, there is a harbor freight here in Durham.

matsuda
07-27-2009, 01:04 AM
I think that is a good idea, but i tried taking the inserts out and cannot seem to get the damn MM back out. The 3 bolts holding the bracket on are so tight that i can't loosen them.

Use a breaker bar.

liquidflem
07-27-2009, 08:16 AM
I tried that and still couldn't get them to loosen. I'm going tomorrow to get one of those impact wrenches from Harbor Freight.

Nliiitend1
07-27-2009, 10:56 AM
Use a breaker bar.

A breaker bar can be tough to use in that area if you're on ramps/jackstands and they're extremely tight...you can't get enough movement or apply torque easily in the right direction when you're laying under the car and the car is only inches off the ground...

The impact wrench is MUCH MUCH easier. ;)

Darth Vader
07-27-2009, 11:10 AM
old school trick: Tighten the bolts a touch before you try to loosen them. This will break the thread interface and they'll wind right off. That's from working on the most stuck bolts in creation, hot side turbo bolts/nuts. With that method, I could get 9 out of ten off without snapping/rounding anything.

drzcrazychulo4u
07-27-2009, 11:32 AM
ok guys so this is day 11 of me not having my car and still no resolve issue. my mazda dealer sent out pics to the mazda idk who prob head corp. well they sent out pics and this past thursday they got baq asking for more pics of where the brace broke. guys i recommend IF YOU HEAR THE CLICKING NOISE DONT PUSH THE CAR DRIVE IT AS If YOU WHERE GRANNY. dont burnout or nothing i was in my boys ms3 and same shit happen to him as it happen to me. red light it was raining he burnout and there it went motor mount snapped axle broke cv joint gone. im recommending you get this fixed asap. i also found out there is a recall but not really put up to the public just yet there is a recall on the axle on the 2007-2008 models and im pissed cuz i have the 2009 and they are giving me so much problems. i got no car, no loaner car, nothing.

i will post my pics at around 430 when i get home i just recommend everyone keep your service papers so if someone here on the forums gets f**ked over and they make them pay for the axle or moter mount we can send them our service papers or copies of ours and they could show there dealer that its the car not the owner!!!!

drzcrazychulo4u
07-27-2009, 09:40 PM
pics removed

mazdasp33d
07-27-2009, 09:43 PM
holy dropped engine batman. damn dude. mazda better cover this shit

drzcrazychulo4u
07-27-2009, 09:45 PM
tell me what you think

H3br3w_Ham3r
07-27-2009, 09:58 PM
Cobb FMIC caused it! At least thats what the dealer is going to try and pull. In all honesty though they can easily win that argument. The car was designed for the stock 263 HP and 280 TQ. The can say that because you are now putting down more power and probably boost that this caused more stress on the stock parts than Mazda intended causing the part to break. Also how do you know the motor mount went first? Since it was aftermarket you Mazda is not obligated to repair anything for you. Claim the joint went and broke your part.

I doubt this reasoning because tons of people are running tons of power and this hasn't happened to a lot of cars. This could be caused by over exuberant driving such as burn outs, flat foot shifting, or lots of bumpy roads causing lots of stress to the part over long periods of time. Mazda could claim that you were doing these types of things and deny your claim in the same fashion as above.

Put everything back to stock that you can reach and take it to the friendliest dealer you know. Hope for the best.

Also is that the stock rear motor mount I see? Tisk tisk.... That should've been one of your first modifications to the car. That mount is a piece if you've ever taken it out. That might have saved you ass if you had that. Did your friend have an upgraded rear motor mount?

drzcrazychulo4u
07-27-2009, 10:06 PM
well my car is stock now i took it all out!! as for my friend he was always stock and same thing happened. i never changed the mount since i thought it was to early to upgrade i only have 3570 miles my friend has appx 10000 miles

rphil10249
07-27-2009, 10:16 PM
H3br3w_Ham3r

I have 10,000 I do not do burnouts, but I have about 25 to 30 autocross events. I have not had any issues and I have the stock motor mount in there.
You think it is a good idea to put a better mount in there?

drzcrazychulo4u
07-27-2009, 10:25 PM
i talked to my friend who works at the dealer and he told me if i had put mounts in and the engine fell i would have been f**ked cuz they would had blamed it on that

drzcrazychulo4u
07-27-2009, 10:27 PM
H3br3w_Ham3r

honestly the dealer cant prove i did burnouts and honest i never did yes i did do some dig races but never burnouts i left all that behind wiff my last car 06 nissan maxima here is the vid lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr6lVlZrmjc but i spent so much money in tires with dat car that i learned my lesson with this car

vtakk
07-27-2009, 10:40 PM
H3br3w_Ham3r

honestly the dealer cant prove i did burnouts and honest i never did yes i did do some dig races but never burnouts i left all that behind wiff my last car 06 nissan maxima here is the vid lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr6lVlZrmjc but i spent so much money in tires with dat car that i learned my lesson with this car
yes they can. just pull the clutch disk out and see.
gl talking to dealer and fixing all that crap

khoney
07-27-2009, 10:47 PM
tell me what you think
All right, you asked for it...

First you post detailed pictures of your car with all of your modifications for any dealer/mazda rep to see. Then you tell us you removed all of your mods for your trip to the dealer... brilliant... not to mention that your sig has your location.

Anyway, I hope you can get them to fix everything in spite of this.

H3br3w_Ham3r
07-27-2009, 10:55 PM
H3br3w_Ham3r

I have 10,000 I do not do burnouts, but I have about 25 to 30 autocross events. I have not had any issues and I have the stock motor mount in there.
You think it is a good idea to put a better mount in there?

I put in a new mount. If you have ever had the hood open on the dyno you can watch the engine shake like crazy without an upgraded one.

(stock mount)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXWK9YsDOTM

(upgraded mount)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJt_0cfWuVg

Still some violent movement but it is better. The rear motor mount also helps with wheel hop and traction. I've got one on my car. Easy mod to do. If my engine fell I'd just jack it up and replace it with my stock one. I don't believe it would be to hard with the right tools.

Also they can claim you pushed the car beyond what was intended for it on the street meaning either you took it too the track or auto-x. This would be hard for them to prove though. A bit of research would catch you out though. Visit the local auto-x region site and check results or call any local tracks and ask if you have ever visited. Remember that waiver you signed? It can be done but I doubt the dealer will. But you never know. We have heard of Mazda USA catching people on CarDomain or the forums because they don't photoshop their license plates out. Just some food for thought.

rphil10249
07-27-2009, 11:18 PM
So in your experience will it improve on auto x times with an improved motor mount? Good luck at nationals I will have to pass this year I have my wife driving now and I am trying to stretch my tires out for the rest of the year. I do plan to attend nationals to watch.

blacksheepms3
07-27-2009, 11:37 PM
i have clunking over bumps. It's a metal sound. I just recently removed my aftermarket shocks and lowering springs for the reason that I want the stock ride quality back. after i did that I started to hear clunking over small bumps on the road. But ride quality is good. What could it be guys? It's been bothering me so much I'm thinkin of tradin my car in for a subaru sti...I wont miss the space cause it's the same body style, but it'll be faster in acceleration for a dig, more potential for more power, good ride quality cause of high suspension travel, and it's awd.

What is this problem I'm having?

H3br3w_Ham3r
07-27-2009, 11:41 PM
i have clunking over bumps. It's a metal sound. I just recently removed my aftermarket shocks and lowering springs for the reason that I want the stock ride quality back. after i did that I started to hear clunking over small bumps on the road. But ride quality is good. What could it be guys? It's been bothering me so much I'm thinkin of tradin my car in for a subaru sti...I wont miss the space cause it's the same body style, but it'll be faster in acceleration for a dig, more potential for more power, good ride quality cause of high suspension travel, and it's awd.

What is this problem I'm having?

Loose bolt somewhere on in the suspension. I had the same thing when I installed my BC's. Just tighten everything down. Hopefully that solves your issue.

H3br3w_Ham3r
07-27-2009, 11:43 PM
So in your experience will it improve on auto x times with an improved motor mount? Good luck at nationals I will have to pass this year I have my wife driving now and I am trying to stretch my tires out for the rest of the year. I do plan to attend nationals to watch.

I think it does. More traction will help, since we are in 2nd gear and can spin the tires at will. Mine still spin out of the corners but no wheel hop. Hoping the suspension and tires will solve my traction problem.

bigdaddy
07-28-2009, 02:32 AM
Yeah, what he said !!

So is this the infamous tranny mount bolt issue, or something else ? I will be interested to see what he finds out.

yeah...but I do have mazdaspeed parts except for my RP, and too bad that I bought my car used, and It came with them, and it didnt have the stock airbox and CBE. I already brought it in with the CAI and CBE on, and they didnt do anything. The RP shouldn't be a problem, and since im in the process of moving, its a pain in the ASSSSSS to take my RP off. I'll see what happens.

bigdaddy
07-28-2009, 02:33 AM
i have clunking over bumps. It's a metal sound. I just recently removed my aftermarket shocks and lowering springs for the reason that I want the stock ride quality back. after i did that I started to hear clunking over small bumps on the road. But ride quality is good. What could it be guys? It's been bothering me so much I'm thinkin of tradin my car in for a subaru sti...I wont miss the space cause it's the same body style, but it'll be faster in acceleration for a dig, more potential for more power, good ride quality cause of high suspension travel, and it's awd.

What is this problem I'm having?

same thing here. gonna take it in. Im no mechanic

8.5MS3
07-28-2009, 07:35 AM
yes they can. just pull the clutch disk out and see.


whats to say im a shitty driver and slip the clutch a ton when driving. a worn disk is not necessarily indicative of abuse...hell my buddy went through 3 clutches in 40k because his girl used the clutch as a dead pedal

vtakk
07-28-2009, 09:20 AM
whats to say im a shitty driver and slip the clutch a ton when driving. a worn disk is not necessarily indicative of abuse...hell my buddy went through 3 clutches in 40k because his girl used the clutch as a dead pedal
who said smth about worn? if you do burnouts and stupid shit like that you frying your clutch. it is not about worn only but mostly color of the surface

8.5MS3
07-28-2009, 09:32 AM
thats exactly my point if your clutch is worn and slipping it will burn, there is no way to distinguish between a burned clutch from a shitty driver and a clutch thats worn from launches since the end result is the same.

The only way to tell if youve been launching is to open the tranny and inspect the teeth on the gears, if they're sheared off then yes your launching. i dont think they will go through all that trouble unless they really have to

vtakk
07-28-2009, 09:37 AM
thats exactly my point if your clutch is worn and slipping it will burn, there is no way to distinguish between a burned clutch from a shitty driver and a clutch thats worn from launches since the end result is the same
have you ever took out clutch after drag race?
if you think there is no diff between regular worn and beat up worn - you're wrong. depends on clutch but after beating shit off your car you will see light blue layer over the disc working surface. plus adequate mechanic would not only check this but pressure plate/flywheel worn level/bearings etc

I understand your point but it is not always true. Thats all I meant to say.

8.5MS3
07-28-2009, 10:55 AM
gotcha

liquidflem
07-28-2009, 11:09 AM
Ok so i'm taking my car in to another dealership in a couple of days to be looked at. This dealership comes highly recommended by 2 friends and is also where some Mazda clubs meet. Hopefully they will be able to shed some more light into this clicking issue and i'll be sure to let you guys know what they say.

blacksheepms3
07-29-2009, 04:36 PM
same thing here. gonna take it in. Im no mechanic

I fixed the problem. It was the front end links driver side. it was busted. it's joint that connects the shaft and the bolt that was causing the clunking. when it's in the car and all bolted up tightly you would never guess it is it because it's tight in there that it takes bumps and dips on the road to trigger the clunk, but when I took it out of the car I can definitely feel the difference between a good one and the busted one. So good thing I was a set of AWR front end links i bought two years ago that i never got to install, i put it in and the clunking was gone. My car sound as good as new now. I guess I wont be trading it in anymore. But if another piece breaks unprovoke..i swear...

blacksheepms3
07-29-2009, 04:40 PM
Loose bolt somewhere on in the suspension. I had the same thing when I installed my BC's. Just tighten everything down. Hopefully that solves your issue.

thank h3br3w...it was the front end link driver side. it needed to be replaced.

liquidflem
07-29-2009, 08:32 PM
thank h3br3w...it was the front end link driver side. it needed to be replaced.

Is there any easy way for you to describe it's location? Difficult to take out?

liquidflem
08-04-2009, 12:16 PM
Mazda said I have a bad Engine mount #3 (passenger). They are replacing it and will see if the noise goes away. I'm almost certain the sound is coming from the driver side, but we'll see.

liquidflem
08-05-2009, 06:55 PM
They replaced the mount and the sound is still there...

Yesterday I called them back and told them that i was concerned that the engine mount issue may be unrelated to the problem that i brought the car in for because the sound is coming from the driver side - a friend confirmed this while standing outside the car. The guy's response to that was "If you want to come down here and fix the car yourself then go right ahead"...

What's the outcome? Car makes the same loud popping noise as soon as i reverse out of the spot they parked it in at the dealership. I swear, can people not do their job? Must EVERY dealership i talk to be rude?

Does anyone know of a dealership in the RTP area (Raleigh, Cary, Apex, Durham NC) that is not Captial Mazda or Millenium Mazda that has GOOD service? I'm so frustrated. I've taken the car in 3 times for this. First time they "couldnt recreate the issue" Second time they said it was the ABS pump and not to worry about it (wtf?) 3rd time it's the engine mount (which i'm glad they replaced, but thanks for not listening to my concerns).

mazdaspeed32007
08-05-2009, 07:29 PM
Is there any easy way for you to describe it's location? Difficult to take out?

i too am interested in this. ive been getting a clunking from what i thought was my endlinks for a while now and would like some help. i hardly think my struts are gone yet and know the clunking is coming from somewhere else.

blacksheepms3
08-06-2009, 12:44 PM
Is there any easy way for you to describe it's location? Difficult to take out?

It's easy to take out. Take off the wheel driverside since u said it's coming from that side. Two bolts golds it in place one connects at the strut the other at the sway bar. Inspect the joints by pullin on it and pushing it together and if it clicks then it's busted. That click is amplified when the car is in motion. Then replace it with aftermarket or oem. That fixed my problem Anyway. Good luck

mazdaspeed32007
08-06-2009, 02:54 PM
It's easy to take out. Take off the wheel driverside since u said it's coming from that side. Two bolts golds it in place one connects at the strut the other at the sway bar. Inspect the joints by pullin on it and pushing it together and if it clicks then it's busted. That click is amplified when the car is in motion. Then replace it with aftermarket or oem. That fixed my problem Anyway. Good luck

i started getting a small click/clunk from just the front but recently its amplified and sounds like its coming from all 'round. may have to check the whole suspension over.

Russm
08-06-2009, 05:21 PM
Had a slight Ticking start yesterday after I was down shifting to slow down to go over rough RR tracks, heard a loud pop, 20 min later when decelerating in gear started to hear a tick, tick, tick, push clutch in goes away, hit brakes or accelerate it goes away.
Got with the top driveline tech this morning he confirmed sound, 45 min later I was told by the Tech that there was a bearing locating pin broke I believe( old and bad memory) and they said they will order the part and should have it Monday, said was safe to drive , bearing in place but don't be crazy!