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koston33
06-30-2009, 10:29 AM
So this is my first manual car and all. I just have a quick question. When I start there car and when im sitting at idle with the clutch pedal out there is a little rumble from the engine bay and, and when i hold the clutch in it disappears. Is this because everything is engaged? Normal?

andrew.savage
06-30-2009, 10:37 AM
So this is my first manual car and all. I just have a quick question. When I start there car and when im sitting at idle with the clutch pedal out there is a little rumble from the engine bay and, and when i hold the clutch in it disappears. Is this because everything is engaged? Normal?

I have a MZ3 from 2006 and mine does the same thing. When I push it hard into the floor, the rumble goes away. It's normal. Dont' worry about it.

robin2660
06-30-2009, 10:38 AM
So this is my first manual car and all. I just have a quick question. When I start there car and when im sitting at idle with the clutch pedal out there is a little rumble from the engine bay and, and when i hold the clutch in it disappears. Is this because everything is engaged? Normal?

It's the clutch release (or, "throwout") bearing, and it's normal on this car to hear it.

cymx5
06-30-2009, 10:54 AM
YEAAAH! You bought a manual! Now you can hear, feel, and know the car sooo much better than you ever have in the past! Cherish this! It's hard to go back once you've learned what a car can do outside of autopilot.

ohioan
06-30-2009, 12:03 PM
That's funny, mine does the same and I wanted to post about it, but wasn't sure how to describe the sound...

Good to hear it's normal (idhitit)

Nliiitend1
06-30-2009, 12:35 PM
It's flywheel/clutch chatter. A common issue with clutches that have a high coefficient of friction (like the one in the MS3)...

coololddude
06-30-2009, 12:45 PM
I would not worry. If you see smoke coming from the floorboard you might reconsider!!

koston33
06-30-2009, 12:46 PM
Well thanks guys for the insight and not making me feel like a idiot. Manual till the day I die now.

kimura
06-30-2009, 01:05 PM
So this is my first manual car and all. I just have a quick question. When I start there car and when im sitting at idle with the clutch pedal out there is a little rumble from the engine bay and, and when i hold the clutch in it disappears. Is this because everything is engaged? Normal?

haha, manual noobs : P

good for you though. most people who start with autos never make the switch.

as others have stated, that noise you describe is perfectly normal.

robin2660
06-30-2009, 01:22 PM
It's flywheel/clutch chatter. A common issue with clutches that have a high coefficient of friction (like the one in the MS3)...

That is not what he's talking about. Clutch chatter is a reverberating feeling through the pedal while letting out.

Nliiitend1
06-30-2009, 01:54 PM
That is not what he's talking about. Clutch chatter is a reverberating feeling through the pedal while letting out.

...OK OK, perhaps I chose my words hastily, and failed to read the OP carefully...

What the OP is really experiencing is "throwout bearing chatter" caused by the throwout bearing rotating/spinning against the fingers of the pressure plate when the clutch is engaged.

For someone who gets as annoyed as I do sometimes when terms are inappropriately used interchangeably, I should have been more careful with my word choices...

My apologies. ;)

Antonio DiMarco
06-30-2009, 04:53 PM
...OK OK, perhaps I chose my words hastily, and failed to read the OP carefully...

What the OP is really experiencing is "throwout bearing chatter" caused by the throwout bearing rotating/spinning against the fingers of the pressure plate when the clutch is engaged.

For someone who gets as annoyed as I do sometimes when terms are inappropriately used interchangeably, I should have been more careful with my word choices...

My apologies. ;)

It's the throw-out bearing then. Normal

cymx5
06-30-2009, 05:07 PM
That is not what he's talking about. Clutch chatter is a reverberating feeling through the pedal while letting out.

Considering the main topic has been resolved, I have no regrets in stealing the thread. please don't send the (five-0) , i will plead (dunno)

What induces clutch chatter? In the past, I've rebuilt the hydraulics, but never had a mechanical failure of a clutch. Is this an early symptom of clutch plate wear?

matsuda
06-30-2009, 06:59 PM
So this is my first manual car and all. I just have a quick question. When I start there car and when im sitting at idle with the clutch pedal out there is a little rumble from the engine bay and, and when i hold the clutch in it disappears. Is this because everything is engaged? Normal?

It is normal. The noise is coming from the transaxle.

Very simply, there are moving parts in the transmission that make noise.
With your foot on the clutch pedal, the engine is effectively disengaged from the transmission.