Upgrade to a speed6... [Archive]

mglavina

06-02-2009, 10:37 PM

My dad "gave" me his regular 6 to use for daily driving over a year ago however it's time for me to buy my own car now. I'm young, and I still live at home, so I'll be driving to school + work, but nowhere extreamly far. I've done some research here and there and I really wanted to buy a speed6...

The regular 6 will be given to my younger bro as soon as I buy my car. I was looking at a few and they were all around $22,995 + with around 60,000 kms... How much did you guys pay for your cars? What are some of the main problems that come with these cars? Do they require a lot of high maintenance after a certain amount of kms?

All comments, guidance and opinions are all greatly appreciated. I was looking at the speed 6, and the altima se-r. both great cars btw.

Blendercloud

06-02-2009, 11:29 PM

I picked up my 2007 MS6 with 16,500 on it a few months ago for $19,500.

This car is initially very frustrating because it's not the easiest car to drive and you can actually feel the restrictions that Mazda implemented to meet with certain Japanese gentlemen's agreements with other manufacturers. With that said, it absolutely begs to be modified and opened up. I'm sure it is just fine the way it came from Mazda, but I was not happy with that. I purchased the car for the rare platform that it is, the AWD, the advanced ECU, and the way awesome way that Mazda has handled direct injection. With all of that going for it, I fell in love with the car.

In short, all cars are going to have their quirks, strengths, and weaknesses. If you're going for daily transport you need to be looking for economy, cost of ownership and maintenance, and reliability. If you're looking for a very unique and somewhat rare car that you can stand out in without standing out like an over-compensating Evo owner, then the Mazdaspeed 6 is for you.

kendon

06-03-2009, 07:52 AM

blendercloud is dead on!

get a carfax, talk them down on the price, grab it and enjoy.

mazdaspeedster3

06-03-2009, 08:04 AM

Wow, must be Canadian? You can get 07 speed6's in the Detroit metro area for around 16k.

mglavina

06-03-2009, 10:12 AM

Thanks to everyone for the input. The most dissapointing thing is that in fact in the United States, you guys can pick up these cars for so much cheaper then we can, which just plain sucks :(. I spoke with a local mazda dealer around where I live and he actually told me not to buy one from the states, or buy one that was imported from the states because he said usually they have been in accidents or driven to shit? Not sure if that is true but that's what he told me...

If I were to buy a speed6 I would definetly be modding it, with many mods that already I have in mind... Only reason I left my regular 6 basically stock is because I wanted to save up for the speed then drop my money on it, rather then waste money on mods on a car that isn't really mine.

I definetly would like a rare, unique and fast car, because all my friends are seirous tuners, and they all own some pretty rare cars (from where I live). I did send the dealership an e-mail asking for a price decrease, I offered $18,500 just for kicks, and he rejected the offer right away and told me that all speed 6's won't drop in price until the new generation speed 6 arrives :(.

Blendercloud

06-03-2009, 10:27 AM

If I were you I would certainly not take what the dealer said about US/imported cars as gospel. People are people. Someone in Canada is just as likely to drive their car 'to shit' as an American or a Japanese person, etc.

Depending on how close you are, I would say that you should do some investigating to try to find an MS6 in the US. Then you can make a trip across the border to the US to pick up your prize. If you get a Carfax that checks out great, I would say it would be worth the trip.

tunersteve

06-03-2009, 10:57 AM

Unfortunately for the northern buyers, there are much fewer options out there. If you can, go pick up one in the US and bring it back over.

Like Blendercloud said, this car is unique. Not too many people experience this car, and it's a great performer all around. It has a lot of room to improve, and it's a fairly easy car to mod as well. Nothing a few hundred bucks can't fix.

mglavina

06-03-2009, 03:04 PM

That's what I was thinking, I don't understand why an American would get in more accidents then a Canadian, people are people... I saw a speed6 imported from the states with 50,000 kms for $18,500.00 which was more along the lines I was looking at.

Does anyone own a speed6 with high mileage? like well over 125,000 kms? How does the ride change/maintenance costs when it gets 'old'?

GiJoe

06-03-2009, 03:08 PM

hey Blender, did you pick yours up out of OK?

Blendercloud

06-03-2009, 03:27 PM

sunshineFC

06-03-2009, 03:43 PM

From the crap your dealer is spewing, I would not buy from him just on principle alone.
Keep looking, they are out there, and for much less than your dealer's asking price.
Search around some more on this and the other forum. There are a few threads on the common problems and prices.
-a

crlsnlopes

06-03-2009, 03:44 PM

....told me that all speed 6's won't drop in price until the new generation speed 6 arrives :(.

go and tell the dealer where hes getting his info. as far as most of us know, there are no plans for a new speed6. around here you can get there are a lot going for around 16-17k with low milage

mine is an 06 with 67k(i drive alot). no major problems, just regualr maintenance.

tunersteve

06-03-2009, 04:18 PM

There won't be a new MS6 unfortunately, at least not right now.

Go find a new dealer to deal with and tell this one to shove it, he's feeding you bullshit left and right. There are several Canadian members here who've bought US vehicles with little or no issue at all. Get a carfax, have it looked over yourself, and you'll find one you want. Where exactly in Canada are you located? If you're in Ontario, come into MI and get one.

all4bspinnin

06-03-2009, 06:41 PM

i picked my MS6 up about 3 or 4 weeks ago for 16000 + tax... pearl white, 26k miles beautiful car... keep searching around! plenty of deals...

I switched from a subaru sti to a 441whp integra to a mazdaspeed 6 and i love the change.

Here is the big question... what are you buying the car for? i would assume your buying it to go fast?

Get the mazdaspeed if you want luxury and decent speed...
Get an Evo/Sti if you want raw performance (do not get a wrx)

mglavina

06-03-2009, 07:01 PM

all4bspinnin

06-03-2009, 08:12 PM

And yes I'm located in Ontario, southern specifically, so pretty close to the border. As for preference, I wanted a luxury/some what fast car... I also like the fact that it's almost a 'sleeper' without the huge evo wing or massive stupid looking hoodscoop... I also wouldn't want an evo or sti because my friends own those cars, so I wanted to be different.

Sounds like those dealerships are proud of that car.

Things you have to consider before you buy the speed 6...

Its 200+ heavier than an sti/evo
Its one foot longer
Is a much much much better DD
It has direct fuel injection
Has less aftermarket/tuning support
Handles well
Has nice color choices

The best thing i can say is to go drive one... If the lowest price you can find is 22k, i would pass and buy an evo 9... if you can find one for less than 20k then i would look at it a bit harder.

sp33dy6

06-03-2009, 08:21 PM

id get the speed6 over evo and or sti regardless of price.. main reason is u can do 400whp on speed6.. why in gods name do u need 5-6-7 hundred horsepower? ? ? lmaoo.. plus when ur with ur girl/wiffe or w.e it can actually pass of as sumwhat of a nice lucery car ahah without the grumple and the killer bumps and everything else that comes along when u have an evo or sti.. so yea speed6 all day every day FTW!

mglavina

06-03-2009, 08:35 PM

Yeah I've decided a while back I did not want the sti or evo... For some reason I like bigger longer cars like the spee6, altima se-r, passat r36, ect... the weight does not concern me that much I just prefer the speed 6 a lot more, the evo nor sti isn't getting in my way, it's the price lol.

I'm gunna try and talk down some dealers and make some more phone calls. If I have to I'll go through the process of determining how much it would cost to import one from the states.

sp33dy6

06-03-2009, 08:44 PM

actuallt the sport model is 3400 and the grandtouring full-loaded is 3600 lol.. so if u want a about 200 pounds lighter then do the sport. thats what i did and never lookd back =)

mglavina

06-03-2009, 09:17 PM

Does the grand touring edition come with nav.? How is it?

sp33dy6

06-03-2009, 09:25 PM

leather navi sunroof, whole nine yards

crlsnlopes

06-03-2009, 09:31 PM

u forgot heated seats and keyless entry

sp33dy6

06-03-2009, 09:34 PM

werd.. all the more reasons u should get it mr canda lol.. i mean u gett all that and a sports car!!.. ITS LIKE WHAY NOT!! all for around 20k.. that is a steal my friend!!

tunersteve

06-03-2009, 10:29 PM

wow this forum has a lot of feedback I love it :D lol. Yeah there many dealers around where I live, I only e-mailed one of them and he was the one who told me: (direct quote) "Thank you for the quick response but we will pass on your offer. These are a special vehicle and until the new generation of Speed-6 arrives in two years, the existing ones that are far and few will hold their price." So according to this plug, they're coming in 2 years :S?

And yes I'm located in Ontario, southern specifically, so pretty close to the border. As for preference, I wanted a luxury/some what fast car... I also like the fact that it's almost a 'sleeper' without the huge evo wing or massive stupid looking hoodscoop... I also wouldn't want an evo or sti because my friends own those cars, so I wanted to be different.

If you live in Southern ON, shoot across the border and look at some southeast MI cars. I know of a few MS6s for sale at dealers for much less. There was a Ti Grey GT with nav for $18,500 at my local dealer.

actuallt the sport model is 3400 and the grandtouring full-loaded is 3600 lol.. so if u want a about 200 pounds lighter then do the sport. thats what i did and never lookd back =)

I've never heard of a 200 lb. difference in models. There's really no major option differences except leather, adv. keyless, and heated seats, and the option for a moonroof.

Does the grand touring edition come with nav.? How is it?

No, both models (Sport and GT.) come with the option for navigation. GT models had the option for a moonroof as well.

mglavina

06-03-2009, 11:24 PM

ic ic. Interesting to learn all of these things, I'm pretty much decided I want this car now, I'll definetly look into calling the border and finding out the process of bringing the car over.

Another question I have (pure noobish) is how is the legit key for the speed 6? I remeber reading somewhere that it was some kind of card? and that you turn a knob to turn it on? and It unlocks when your in range?

GiJoe

06-04-2009, 09:04 AM

Nope. I got mine right here in St. Louis. I ran the salesman ragged for about 9 straight hours. He finally saw it my way and the price was reduced from $21,000. I also got an extra $2,000 on my 3-series BMW trade-in. :)

nice, the reason I ask is because I had talked my buddy into buying one, and there was one in OK close to the same milage, for the same price. but someone picked it up before we got down there.

Speed6Sam

06-04-2009, 11:29 AM

Just got my speed6 35k on it for 14995, i got a great deal! and absolutley love my car! goodluck!

Eskareon

06-04-2009, 05:55 PM

Just got my speed6 35k on it for 14995, i got a great deal! and absolutley love my car! goodluck!

:(

I picked up mine last October. 2006, Black, one owner, 42k miles. Price was $14,900. I guess it was eight months ago. Price will just keep going down.

crlsnlopes

06-04-2009, 06:15 PM

:(

I picked up mine last October. 2006, Black, one owner, 42k miles. Price was $14,900. I guess it was eight months ago. Price will just keep going down.

i know around my area the is a 06sport with 17k and their asking 16k

mglavina

06-04-2009, 10:46 PM

omg they're so cheap down there :( someone drive it over for me to buy so I don't have to go through the whole customs process :D haha

mglavina

06-04-2009, 10:52 PM

There was a Ti Grey GT with nav for $18,500 at my local dealer.

with navi.? with the keyless entry, leather heated seats, moonroof? how many kms? or I guess miles lol

tunersteve

06-05-2009, 12:08 AM

with navi.? with the keyless entry, leather heated seats, moonroof? how many kms? or I guess miles lol

It was a GT, so the leather, heated seats, and adv. key is standard. I believe it had the optional moonroof and nav system. I want to say it had 25k miles on it.

sp33dy6

06-06-2009, 10:18 AM

Actually the speed6 sport is lighter.. Think about it when they weight the car in magazines and such they do it fulllllyy loaded top to bottom... That includes leather+heated sseats,navigation,sunroof.. That is easylyy 150-250ibs

mglavina

06-08-2009, 05:53 PM

Update! After the one dealer who claimed the new speed6's were arriving and until that time he won't drop his price, I never responded back to his rejection. I just got an e-mail today from him asking me if I was still interested or if we could work out a deal :D. haha, looks like he hasn't had all the best luck selling it.

I also looked at his used dealership website and it turns out that he has 3 of them, all for $22,995.00...

sp33dy6

06-08-2009, 06:17 PM

do u have a link to his website.. and could u pm his website with his name and number.. lets just say im a greatsales man lol and my uncles are very well know in that part of the world.. i think i can bring the price down for u about 10-20%

mglavina

06-08-2009, 07:28 PM

hey if you can work your magic, go right ahead lol. I was looking at the black '06 one. http://ajaxmazda.autotrader.ca/index.htm My name is Marko, he has my e-mail...

sp33dy6

06-08-2009, 09:34 PM

Im gonna do my best i have a few friends that work in mazda dealers here and their and i got friends up in canada actually about 10 miles from that exact dealership.. i explaind to them the situation their gonna act like they wana purchase the car.. etcc

sp33dy6

06-08-2009, 09:35 PM

what are u looking to pay?.. how muchy u looking to put down? finnance etc?

mglavina

06-09-2009, 10:52 PM

well if it helps I'd be willing to pay the full price cash on the spot if the price can really be decreased. The most I would do would be around $18,000. If not, maybe around a $10,000 to $15,000 down payment and finance over a year or two.

pm if you have any other questions or additional info for me.

mglavina

06-15-2009, 06:32 PM

any updates sp33dy?

sp33dy6

06-15-2009, 07:04 PM

yea i calld he askd me were i was from, im assuming he had caller id. i gave em a bulllshit story how i was intrested in a regular 6 and tallkd shit about any car that was stick-shift and how parts are expensive etc. he just kept saying he wanted me to come down lol.. i askd a cuzin of mine to check it out he drove about 30 min away.. ahah he smoked a blunt on the way so thats why he dident mind lol.. and he talkd to him used his magic and it turns out if they dont sell the cars soon they are gonna ship em to another dealer. they really cant afford to go lower on the price because they own the car for close to the same they are selling it at.... damnn canda is fukd up ahhaa but i love it free health insurance baby!!!! i dont even have here in the states

mglavina

06-16-2009, 04:03 PM

lol ic ic.

sp33dy6

06-16-2009, 04:21 PM

dude just buy the car, u got nuthing to loose, think of the extra cash ur paying as extra tax ahahahha. if ur gonna eventually buy the car why noit just buy it already. i duno whatelse to tell u bro. u can always look into a mitsubishi gsx.. thats pretty similiar .. ahahhahaaha

ms6acton

06-16-2009, 04:44 PM

i bought my speed6 about 5 months ago and payed 21000 with 55000 km. red fully loaded without navi. just thought i would put my .02 in

sp33dy6

06-16-2009, 05:17 PM

why is ur display name ms3action tho? lol

mglavina

06-16-2009, 05:22 PM

I think I'm gunna take action and look into buying the black one

ms6acton

06-16-2009, 07:05 PM

why is ur display name ms3action tho? lol

i had an ms3 when i joined the forum originally. totaled that about 6 months ago and bought the 6

sp33dy6

06-16-2009, 07:16 PM

ahha u remind me of my cuzin he totald his first 3 weeks of owning it racing my cuzins evo.. it was a pretty even race its just that my cuzin with the speed as a noob and he decided to try to show off going 130mph an dipping thrue traffic... so why the change to a speed6 and not evo or sti or speed3 again.. im really curious to hear this