View Full Version : Forge or turboxs bpv?
zx2man
05-21-2009, 11:04 PM
They both seem to be oem replacements and of good build quality. I want a bpv thats simple and holds boost the best.
MS3 GT
05-21-2009, 11:18 PM
go for synapse.. guarantee satisfied!!!
funksilver07
05-21-2009, 11:44 PM
They both seem to be oem replacements and of good build quality. I want a bpv thats simple and holds boost the best.
Go with the Forge, easy install, good price, easy to tune, stealth... Holds boost really well.
bryand8930
05-21-2009, 11:47 PM
forge....pinggggg!!!
zx2man
05-22-2009, 12:48 AM
the forge does seem like a good choice..from the reviews the Synapse seems anything but simple,but i have zero experience on it..some valves like Synapse and RKM are talking about 20+ hp gains..which I think is alittle crazy for a bov/bpv....even though getting some extra power from holding boost better would be sweet :)
AutoEuphoria
05-22-2009, 07:28 AM
I have the RKM unit...works/sounds pretty good so far!
I did have to clock the top cap 90 degrees CW to get it to fit right, though...after pic:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h167/AntiStockPhotography/walkthroughs/1.jpg
Before (when it was rubbing/cutting vacuum lines):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/AutoEuphoria/Cars/Mazdaspeed3/4-15-093.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/AutoEuphoria/Cars/Mazdaspeed3/4-15-094.jpg
karl hungus
05-22-2009, 07:30 AM
forge. my kids love the ping. somebody should do a bpv poll (if it hasn't been done recently).
AllLostThings
05-22-2009, 07:48 AM
I've got a TurboXs and have no complaints about it. Install was a 5 minute process and it holds boost great.
SomnoSpeed3
05-22-2009, 12:18 PM
How different of a sound will I get from the Forge compaired to the stock? I have listened to some youtube examples but the sound on my computer really sucks.
AutoEuphoria
05-22-2009, 12:48 PM
Stock:
KEHH
Forge:
CHING
mazdaspeedster3
05-22-2009, 12:56 PM
THe Turbo XS BPV sounds like stock but is louder. I went with the Forge for price. $150 for a good BPV is a great price and I like the sound, it grows on you.
240ka
05-22-2009, 01:48 PM
the ping is gay, stay away from the forge
240ka
05-22-2009, 01:49 PM
forge. my kids love the ping. somebody should do a bpv poll (if it hasn't been done recently).
forge would get shitted on. that things sounds horrible and annoying
eg6motion
05-22-2009, 02:14 PM
Stock:
KEHH
Forge:
CHING
but I am looking specifically for a kehh-ching-wallawalla bingbang sound...
AutoEuphoria
05-22-2009, 02:31 PM
Then get the Forge and dump some gravel into the turbo inlet.
detonnation
05-22-2009, 03:20 PM
Its not gay, its metrosexual, but its lifting weights and watching MMA!
Go Forge.. idk, they are prolly both equal
detonnation
05-22-2009, 03:20 PM
but I am looking specifically for a kehh-ching-wallawalla bingbang sound...
hahaha!
Speed3Rookie
05-22-2009, 03:55 PM
Forge FTMFW...nuff said. :)
Jasnall
05-22-2009, 03:58 PM
Forge seems to be the easier by far. The performance of the Synapse is incredible, but far from easy to deal with.
derspi
05-22-2009, 04:00 PM
Go with the Forge, easy install, good price, easy to tune, stealth... Holds boost really well.
So far, from what I can tell, the TurboXS unit will be an "easy install, good price, easy to tune and stealthy" BPV as well. The only thing we don't know is how well it performs and the sound it makes because it hasn't been released yet. So if you want one RIGHT NOW, then your only choice is the Forge.
ByrdMan23
05-22-2009, 10:44 PM
I have forge and love it.. look, performance and sound is perfect for me
at first i was weary of the ping sound but once i installed it i couldn't keep my foot from punding down and then letting off.. I would compare it to the high pitch hks noise but thats just me..
Im sure turboxs valve is just as good in all categories.
Its really just a personal choice.. do you want to have a unique loud sound
or a basic air noise thats a little more suttle?
and as far as the synpase adding 20 hp and all that bs.. i don't buy it..
Its just like a Intake.. they all do the same thing! thats like saying the injen intake adds 20 hp but the fujita (that is basically shaped the exact same way) only does 5... If you believe something liek that you should be slapped
some might be longer with different filters and such.. but at the end of the day its a insignificant amount of difference between brands.. as long as its aftermarket its gonna be way better than stock
Marauder.45
05-22-2009, 10:50 PM
Are we supposed to pick a BPV/BOV just based on the sound they make? Or the performance they bestow?
Then maybe the price/performance = value proposition.
AllLostThings
05-22-2009, 11:01 PM
I like the performance of my TurboXs, and bought an HKS to try out and have had all sorts of problems with it (it's used) I may try out a forge sometime soon.
zx2man
05-22-2009, 11:49 PM
turbosmart is spose to have a oem replacement soon too..Im sure that will stack up well..It seems like the forge is a soild choice..least with the turboxs I dont need to mess with shims or springs..not that thats hard or a bother really..but the simpler the better sometimes. I guess the question is..when the aftermarket bpv/bov was installed did you actrully notice your car hold booster longer and stronger.
SPEED305
05-26-2009, 11:03 AM
i have both the Turbosmart and the Forge, and the butt dyno says Forge.
LinuxRacr
05-26-2009, 11:10 AM
Synapse FTW...
Bonafide_Spd3
05-26-2009, 06:05 PM
I went with the forge, works great for me
DanSpeed6
05-27-2009, 12:26 AM
Then get the Forge and dump some gravel into the turbo inlet.
LOL
patty AT forge
05-27-2009, 11:31 AM
I have a small amount of our new "ping-less" valves, please contact me via PM if you are interested in trying one out.
Mid_Life_Crisis
05-27-2009, 01:24 PM
I have a small amount of our new "ping-less" valves, please contact me via PM if you are interested in trying one out.
I`m driving around with a prototype right now. It`s a nice, clean looking piece that doesn`t take over the engine compartment like some others we could all name. Typical Forge quality craftsmanship too. Definite improvement in looks over the stocker, but more subtle than most others. It also works. Very satisfying "woosh" with no ching! sound.
My only mods under the hood to date are an MSCAI and the Forge BPV, and my boost according to my gauge holds pretty rock steady at just about 15 psi, so no leaking going on here. Next week I`m getting over my nerves and installing one of their MBCs too.
Mid_Life_Crisis
05-27-2009, 01:30 PM
but I am looking specifically for a kehh-ching-wallawalla bingbang sound...
Nothing to do with the topic, sorry, but after seeing this, all I can think of is the comedian who said that when he and his wife had a baby girl, they wanted to give her a name that honored her mixed Jewish-Chinese heritage.
Her name is "Cha-ching".
MS3 GT
05-27-2009, 01:31 PM
like i said eighter synapse or hks. they both are the shit on the market now. both in sound and performance!!!
khoney
05-29-2009, 11:06 PM
Just installed a Forge (blue +1shim). Already had a Cobb SRI. Damn, what a difference with the Forge! I'll live with the ping (which actually wasn't as bad as I thought it would be) to get the performance benefits. Pulls harder through the full RPM range, has much better throttle response. This thing is awesome! I felt more of a butt dyno diff when I added the Forge than when I added the SRI. Go figure...
08cosmic3
06-04-2009, 12:11 AM
Just installed a Forge (blue +1shim). Already had a Cobb SRI. Damn, what a difference with the Forge! I'll live with the ping (which actually wasn't as bad as I thought it would be) to get the performance benefits. Pulls harder through the full RPM range, has much better throttle response. This thing is awesome! I felt more of a butt dyno diff when I added the Forge than when I added the SRI. Go figure...
Your stock BPV was probably leaking as they are known to do.
I have the Forge, blue w/2, and don't mind the sound because I want performance. If the BPV quacked like a duck but held boost the best then I would take my car duck hunting. Alot of guys here want the best sounding BPV but end up with the Forge in the end because it is simply the best option.
bjjer
06-04-2009, 10:05 AM
Your stock BPV was probably leaking as they are known to do.
I have the Forge, blue w/2, and don't mind the sound because I want performance. If the BPV quacked like a duck but held boost the best then I would take my car duck hunting. Alot of guys here want the best sounding BPV but end up with the Forge in the end because it is simply the best option.
Im tempted with the Forge Im just afraid the ping sound will get to me after a while. I have seen youtube videos but I cant get the full effect unless I hear it live.
Marauder.45
06-04-2009, 06:31 PM
I would guess it's probably less obnoxious in the cabin. It's loud cause in the videos the hood is up in a garage.
I plan on doing what I always do when I don't want to hear the creaks and groans of my car that make me nervous. TURN UP THE RADIO (rockon)(nana)(headbang)
jeff4880
06-05-2009, 09:59 AM
I'm in the market for a BPV also but I don't care about sound at all. I'm thinking the Forge is the best for price and performance. Are there any other on the market that are better?
08cosmic3
06-05-2009, 05:23 PM
No
Mz3Hatch
06-09-2009, 03:55 PM
I`m driving around with a prototype right now. It`s a nice, clean looking piece that doesn`t take over the engine compartment like some others we could all name. Typical Forge quality craftsmanship too. Definite improvement in looks over the stocker, but more subtle than most others. It also works. Very satisfying "woosh" with no ching! sound.
My only mods under the hood to date are an MSCAI and the Forge BPV, and my boost according to my gauge holds pretty rock steady at just about 15 psi, so no leaking going on here. Next week I`m getting over my nerves and installing one of their MBCs too.
I was just curious as to how/where you got your forge bpv proto. I PM'd patty at forge and asked but havent gotten a response yet. Ive been looking for a valve to replace my stocker and like the reviews of the forge as it seems to be the best for our cars. any ideas/help??
Timshadi
06-15-2009, 02:06 PM
I also PM'd her with no response :( screw it Im about to just order a Forge bpv!! I can't wait any longer i think i'm leaking boost
patty AT forge
06-18-2009, 02:24 PM
I've responded to all PMs.
PS. I'm a dude :)
Timshadi
06-18-2009, 02:33 PM
Sorry Patty, my mistake! :(
AllLostThings
06-18-2009, 07:33 PM
Just installed a Forge (blue +1shim). Already had a Cobb SRI. Damn, what a difference with the Forge! I'll live with the ping (which actually wasn't as bad as I thought it would be) to get the performance benefits. Pulls harder through the full RPM range, has much better throttle response. This thing is awesome! I felt more of a butt dyno diff when I added the Forge than when I added the SRI. Go figure...
I just installed mine today and I have to say the "ping" isn't that loud to me either.
HOBDisease
06-18-2009, 07:37 PM
Cough Turbosmart DP BOV > Forge BPV cough.... buy mine lol
Mistersix
06-18-2009, 09:59 PM
i as well have a forge bpv in the ms6 FS section, if anyone's interested:D
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