Looking for pics of Dropped MS6's & what springs were used!

[speed6r]

Looking for pics of Dropped MS6's & what springs were used. Im looking into MS6 Eibach Springs drop is 1.5" F- 2 R they're $150. any thoughts?

[tunersteve]

H&R is what seems to be the ones that most people go with. 1.3" drop all the way around, and I believe they're a linear rate spring (Eibach's are progressive).

EDIT: please only post in one section.

[speed6r]

whats the difference between liner and progressive? and is 150 a good price for the eibachs

[sunshineFC]

whats the difference between liner and progressive? and is 150 a good price for the eibachs

You can easily do a google/wikipedia search for what those terms mean. They are not Ms6 specific. Short definition is - linear spring rate will provide the same amount of resistance regardless of the forces acting on the suspension. A progressive spring will react "progressively" as the force on the suspension increases. It starts out soft for comfort, and as the force increases it stiffens up. Most ppl say the Eibach pro-kit is too soft for the Ms6, and that its not very predictable due to the changing rate. I used Eibachs on my Rx-7, and they were ok. I didnt have complaints for a street car.

Yes, 150 is a decent price for them.
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[tunersteve]

^ What he said. It's a matter of preference.

From personal experience, I had a set of MSP springs on my Protege that were linear and didn't bother me. H&R are also linear and on our cars should ride fine (seems like the favorite spring overall).

Eibachs for $150 is a great deal. Great warranty on them too. Just make sure you get the Pro-kit and not the Sportline, as they'll ride totally different.

[Igve2shtz]

Recommend going through the 6/MS6 Wheel Photo Thread ... Its the first sticky under the suspension link. Its long as hell, but will give you the pics you are looking for, plus maybe open you up to other suspensions.

[Dr. D]

eibach pro-kit

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[speed6r]

Thanks soooo much for the Intel guys! and the springs im looking at are the sport line. i'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around the progressive/liner deal, any info would be much appreciated! and i got the drop wrong its 2 in the front and 1.5 rear. Just picked up a Fujita CAI for $100 bucks too :)

[tunersteve]

Thanks soooo much for the Intel guys! and the springs im looking at are the sport line. i'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around the progressive/liner deal, any info would be much appreciated! and i got the drop wrong its 2 in the front and 1.5 rear. Just picked up a Fujita CAI for $100 bucks too :)

$100 for the intake is a great deal.

Basically, to sum it up, linear springs you will feel the same on smooth roads and no spirited driving as you would on a track. With progressive springs you'll feel a difference between the two. Hope that helps.

Here's a link right from the Eibach site that compares the two:
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/01488.2.4328682821100010384

I only suggest shying away from the Sportlines after watching a local MS6 with them drag his front bumper on the ground during a fun run. Not what I'd like to do with my car.

[speed6r]

$100 for the intake is a great deal.

Basically, to sum it up, linear springs you will feel the same on smooth roads and no spirited driving as you would on a track. With progressive springs you'll feel a difference between the two. Hope that helps.

Here's a link right from the Eibach site that compares the two:
http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/01488.2.4328682821100010384

I only suggest shying away from the Sportlines after watching a local MS6 with them drag his front bumper on the ground during a fun run. Not what I'd like to do with my car.

Thx for the link and why was his front bumper dragging? Are springs an easy install? is there anything else required to drop it? or is it just a spring swap?

[tunersteve]

Thx for the link and why was his front bumper dragging? Are springs an easy install? is there anything else required to drop it? or is it just a spring swap?

No prob. He was sitting really low, and it looked bad to be honest. For springs, aside from the better spring response is the clean uniform tire gap with the car.

Swapping the springs is supposedly a fairly straightforward job, but I've not done it yet to confirm. As far as lowering the car, springs should be the effective solution. Down the road, shocks/struts are gonna be needed, but you can run without them initially.

[Vicspeed6_AZ]

H&R Sport Springs

http://members.cox.net/ohmer_pics/tn_IMG_6418.JPG

[MR_X]

I wish I did my homework before buying some Megan springs. The drop looks good but the ride quality is the same as stock. This equals to a lot of bottoming out the suspension easily. Search around for my name and you will find a pic of a friends car with the same springs and a lot of body roll during a auto cross event.

Btw I have heard that Eibach spring will tent to at on the rear giving the look that the rear is lower than the front. I think H&R are the only MS6 specific spring with an aggressive drop. People orrect me if I'm wrong

[TUNGSTENGREYWIDOW]

If you get progressive springs you might want to change to some better shocks/struts.

[bova80]

RPM Street Springs

http://www.mzdspd.com/mzdspd/images/march/highres1.JPG

[TX Speed 6]

I highly recommend the RPM street springs, they feel great and still give me good enough clearance on bumps and driveways... only scrapped a couple times when I haven't been paying attention. With the Eibach sports you'll need to be a little more mindful of bumps and such. The RPM's are linear.

So Linear = Stiff 100% of the time

Progressive = Start soft for the first 20%(i'm making this number up, i'm not really sure where the point is) then get stiffer the more they compress

Hope that makes some sense to somebody out there besides me?

[Monstar]

I have sportlines with koni yellows...I am tucking tire front and back....I hate the sport lines as far as beating on the car back roads. Too much up and down!
Just gonna ride it out till we move, then put the coilovers on.

[tunersteve]

I'll be running a set of H&R springs with the Whiteline rear sway soon. RPM would be my second choice. Seems apparent that going with a MS6 specific spring is the way to go vs. a regular 6 V6 spring.

[JOSER_SPEED6]

I have the Mazdaspeed springs and their ok. If you got weight in the back seat or trunk they tend to sag. As far as ride or comfort they are ok. They get the job done as far as giving your car a lower stance but I dont think they preform as well as they should. I'll be needing to get new shocks/struts soon, so I'll also be upgrading the springs or just go all out and get coil overs.. not for atleast another 6-8 months though.

On 20"s with no weight (silver wheels) on 18"s with wieight (black wheels)

[tunersteve]

I didn't know MS made springs just for the MS6...are they the same ones for the reg. 6 V6?

[MShreve]

They make quite a few parts actually.

Here's the suspension parts:
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/speedDisplayAccessoryList.action?endModelYear=2008&carLineCode=MZ6&categoryId=4&startModelYear=2004

Looks like they have a lot of catalogue typo's though. Not sure which ones are meant for the speed6.

[tunersteve]

Found 'em. V6/MS6 springs, same as Eibach.

I know there are a lot of MS parts, but most of those are for the regular model.

[MShreve]

Are you looking at the "Sport Spring Kit 3.0L Sedan - MAZDASPEED6 (2003 - 2008)"?

In the summary it says Mazda6 or MazdaSpeed6, but then the description says Mazda6 V6 only. *shrug*

[speed6r]

I highly recommend the RPM street springs, they feel great and still give me good enough clearance on bumps and driveways... only scrapped a couple times when I haven't been paying attention. With the Eibach sports you'll need to be a little more mindful of bumps and such. The RPM's are linear.

So Linear = Stiff 100% of the time

Progressive = Start soft for the first 20%(i'm making this number up, i'm not really sure where the point is) then get stiffer the more they compress

Hope that makes some sense to somebody out there besides me?

how much? and u got any pics? or links?

[tunersteve]

how much? and u got any pics? or links?

http://www.therpmstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=91&products_id=442

http://www.therpmstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=91&products_id=671

Sport (top) vs. Street (bottom)

[speed6r]

I have the Mazdaspeed springs and their ok. If you got weight in the back seat or trunk they tend to sag. As far as ride or comfort they are ok. They get the job done as far as giving your car a lower stance but I dont think they preform as well as they should. I'll be needing to get new shocks/struts soon, so I'll also be upgrading the springs or just go all out and get coil overs.. not for atleast another 6-8 months though.

On 20"s with no weight (silver wheels) on 18"s with wieight (black wheels)

The 20's look sick! I bet it rides a lil rough though.

[JOSER_SPEED6]

The 20's look sick! I bet it rides a lil rough though.

Actually not as bad as you would think. Ofcourse its not the same as stock or with 18's but it wasn't too bad...the worst part was just not being able to take hard turns cause of the rubbing in the rear. But they cleared the front with no rubbing whats so ever. I do miss the way it looked.

[Koenig]

Yes I know I'm late but.........

I am actually running Megan's racing springs on the car and I have weight (box of 2 12" subs and amp) in the rear... and I don't have any rubbing issues [fenders not rolled yet]

I'm not exactly doing Auto-X or anything, but they get the job done as far as taking on ramps at 60-80 mph. (not the tight circle ones, those are more like 40, lol)

I'm happy with them, but will eventually get H&R Coilovers [again] :(

1st pic was with 225/40/18 tires, 2nd pic is with 235/40/18 tires on the car, currently (yes, subs are in car in both pics)



http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t40/speed6_AWD/IMG_0177-1.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t40/speed6_AWD/IMG_0688.jpg

[Blendercloud]

Yes I know I'm late but.........

I am actually running Megan's racing springs on the car and I have weight (box of 2 12" subs and amp) in the rear... and I don't have any rubbing issues [fenders not rolled yet]

I'm not exactly doing Auto-X or anything, but they get the job done as far as taking on ramps at 60-80 mph. (not the tight circle ones, those are more like 40, lol)

I'm happy with them, but will eventually get H&R Coilovers [again] :(

1st pic was with 225/40/18 tires, 2nd pic is with 235/40/18 tires on the car, currently (yes, subs are in car in both pics)



http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t40/speed6_AWD/IMG_0177-1.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t40/speed6_AWD/IMG_0688.jpg

Looks good, Bro. I have to say that I really do like the stock wheels on the MS6. I can understand why people get something different, but I think I may keep mine stock. I have to ask... why replace the fuel door though?

[speed6r]

Werd! Fuel door Booo! =(
I still dig the drop!...
.....and the color!

[Koenig]

Damn it I need to make something in my sig, ROFL..... I didn't replace the fuel door.... as you may or may not know that was actually an optional accessory that one could get for the speed6, mine happened to already have it when I bought it on the lot.

I did buy an OEM replacement fuel door, for like $10... but when I asked the body shop at Mazda how much to color match it.... they told me $80 bucks, and I said to eat shit, (lol2)

I actually now have a better hook up... GF's sister's husband has a body shop... he's going to be fixing up some damage on my passenger side for a real good deal so I'm going to throw in the fuel door and ask him to paint it so I can install it, I'm not fond of the chrome door either.... actually, I'm not really a fond of any chrome, period.... trim, gas door, or wheels. (shrug)

But thanks for the compliments guys, I appreciate it!!! (thumb)

As for the wheels... I do like the stock wheels, they look great in my avatar, but different in a full size pic, lol... but I really like a bronze or gold wheel to offset the Black Cherry Mica paint... and I kind of want something with a slight lip on it, so I am considering changing mine.

[Blendercloud]

As for the wheels... I do like the stock wheels, they look great in my avatar, but different in a full size pic, lol... but I really like a bronze or gold wheel to offset the Black Cherry Mica paint... and I kind of want something with a slight lip on it, so I am considering changing mine.

I like having something with a lip on it also, except when it comes time to really scrub. Just seems like it doubles the work of scrubbing the wheels. You'll have to post more pics when you hook up some new rims!

[Koenig]

I like having something with a lip on it also, except when it comes time to really scrub. Just seems like it doubles the work of scrubbing the wheels. You'll have to post more pics when you hook up some new rims!

Yeah after I find a rim I like, (lol2) I've been looking at so many... but I still haven't seen some that just scream "SEX" to me.... Well actually, there was one.... this VOLK wheel that I saw... but I don't exactly feel too ecstatic about spending $3,000+ on a set of wheels.

[speed_demon6]

i was wondering about the MS6 struts/springs. When i went to parts shop at the dealer I asked about them and they have a MS6 specific springs/struts, if you go to Mazda and u ask they "should" print you off a sheet of available performance parts that Mazda carries for the MS6 (not gonna lie.. they are not cheap in price haha)

[Koenig]

i was wondering about the MS6 struts/springs. When i went to parts shop at the dealer I asked about them and they have a MS6 specific springs/struts, if you go to Mazda and u ask they "should" print you off a sheet of available performance parts that Mazda carries for the MS6 (not gonna lie.. they are not cheap in price haha)

The only problem with that is that I've noticed a lot of the "accessories" they carry, like the Mazdaspeed springs.... aren't really made for the Mazdaspeed6 itself... since it weighs more than the i4 and v6 models (I would attribute this largely in part to the added AWD system, amongst other things)

[tunersteve]

H&Rs are on order, I'll post some detailed pics of before & after heights once they get here.