View Full Version : i can turn one wheel completely 90deg!
essejkcamraw
03-26-2009, 12:34 AM
so interesting story...
since mazda doesn't like to touch after market wheels, they always send my wheel off to get a new tire on or anything an ect. so i've been taking it to my parents' dealer (Northgate Ford Lincoln mercury) here in tampa cause they are good friends with everyone in service an what not. an they always do a great job with my wheels balance an alignment an such. well i curbed the piss out of my rota torque few weeks ago so i bought a new one. it arrived today! i was so stoked cause it was so humiliating driving around with a fucked rim. so i took it there, and 2hrs later its ready to go. cool! well on my drive home i feel a flop in my front right wheel (the new one) so i think FUCK! are you serious? a flat? so i get over i was cruising at about 45mph and goto pull into a plaza well, a right hand turn an then BOOM! cars at a dead stop. so im thinking WTF?! well i get out (luckily i was able to halfway pull into the plaza, but still was blocking the entrance, but out of traffic) an my wheels facing completely 90deg. my lugs... nowhere to be seen. they ripped completely off. so as of now, the cars at the dealer an they are fixing everything and paying for the rental. i was on BLOX forged lugs also. just figured i'd vent... so how was your day? hah!
bgibb68
03-26-2009, 12:46 AM
better than yours.....but hey...it could have been worse
essejkcamraw
03-30-2009, 01:32 AM
So here's some pics courtesy of a cellphone. hah. cant really make out the actual damage but you get the idea.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/jessebmx/fuckedcar.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/jessebmx/fuckedcar2.jpg
bluelion
03-30-2009, 01:44 AM
ouuuuch!! they prolly didn't tighten the lugs tight enough....that sucks...
MazdaSpeeder
03-30-2009, 01:55 AM
I would be PISSED! What if that had happened at highway speeds? Amateur crap like that gets people killed. You should milk that for all it is worth. Ridiculous.
essejkcamraw
03-30-2009, 02:07 AM
ouuuuch!! they prolly didn't tighten the lugs tight enough....that sucks...
either that or being forged lugs they overtightened. cause the threads were all still left on there. just not the lugs haha.
I would be PISSED! What if that had happened at highway speeds? Amateur crap like that gets people killed. You should milk that for all it is worth. Ridiculous.
yeah, i wasnt exactly too happy. all the works being done for free. and they are paying for the rental. they also ordered me all new forged BLOX lugs haha. but, our friend in charge at service let me know they fired the wheel tech because of this because obviously this is costing them out the ass.
bluelion
03-30-2009, 02:37 AM
either that or being forged lugs they overtightened. cause the threads were all still left on there. just not the lugs haha.
yeah, i wasnt exactly too happy. all the works being done for free. and they are paying for the rental. they also ordered me all new forged BLOX lugs haha. but, our friend in charge at service let me know they fired the wheel tech because of this because obviously this is costing them out the ass.
damn, they fired him? maybe it happened before also....
EngulfinFlames
03-30-2009, 02:42 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dcdi--LdAeQ/Sa1sWd8j4pI/AAAAAAAAEBg/BGX_vc32JHc/s400/wtf.jpg
Wow.
BillTheCat
03-30-2009, 02:49 AM
OUCH. Reminds me of those skateboard videos where a guy lands wrong & his ankle ends up pointing backwards, or his elbow bends completely backwards, etc.
Just for future reference, if you ever need wheel & tire work, alignment, etc. done, call Cars & Concepts. They have all the latest equipment, can handle lowered cars without a hassle, etc. And they do great work. You need to make an appointment ahead of time, because they book up, but it's worth the wait.
They're at 4711 N. Manhattan, 2+ blocks North of MLK. 813-348-6183. Yeah, it's in Drew Park, but don't worry- the hookers don't bite unless you pay extra.
creina1221
03-30-2009, 10:37 AM
Are they doing the body work too? Looks like you need a new fender and they'll have to blend the door and hood for the paint match.
That sucks man, you're more patient than I.
Best of luck!
Hank3
03-30-2009, 11:23 AM
Man, that is messed up on so many levels. Glad you were OK. But that's craptacular! Hope everything gets fixed to your staisfaction.
leadf00t
03-30-2009, 12:16 PM
OUCH. Reminds me of those skateboard videos where a guy lands wrong & his ankle ends up pointing backwards, or his elbow bends completely backwards, etc.
Just for future reference, if you ever need wheel & tire work, alignment, etc. done, call Cars & Concepts. They have all the latest equipment, can handle lowered cars without a hassle, etc. And they do great work. You need to make an appointment ahead of time, because they book up, but it's worth the wait.
They're at 4711 N. Manhattan, 2+ blocks North of MLK. 813-348-6183. Yeah, it's in Drew Park, but don't worry- the hookers don't bite unless you pay extra.
How much extra ????
Nliiitend1
03-30-2009, 12:43 PM
So wait, your lug NUTS came completely off of the studs?
Your repeated misuse of the word "lugs" has me confused...(dunno)
essejkcamraw
03-30-2009, 12:46 PM
So wait, your lug NUTS came completely off of the studs?
Your repeated misuse of the word "lugs" has me confused...(dunno)
yes, they came off completely. and all the body works being done. their body shops really good so all should be well.
bgibb68
03-30-2009, 12:53 PM
may good karma come back to you 10x.....i would have blown a gasket and ripped someone's head off
Nliiitend1
03-30-2009, 01:36 PM
yes, they came off completely. and all the body works being done. their body shops really good so all should be well.
So the studs remained?
Or did they break off?
Wagonbacker9
03-30-2009, 01:41 PM
the studs are there its just the lug NUTS that came off due to not being torqued. if they'd been overtightened the threads would have been stripped off of the lugs (aka wheel studs)...
Nliiitend1
03-30-2009, 03:33 PM
I gotcha.
...and just FYI, there is no such thing as a "lug."
There are "lug nuts" and "lug bolts."
The term "lug" is NOT interchangeable with the term "wheel stud."
Sorry...just a little pet peeve of mine. ;)
To the OP, I'm glad to hear the dealership is doing their best to make things right. Hopefully you won't be without your baby for too long...
Wagonbacker9
03-30-2009, 03:38 PM
Dictionary.com:
lug2 http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/L04/L0416900) /lʌg/ http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html) Show Spelled Pronunciation [luhg] http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html) Show IPA
–noun 1.a projecting piece by which anything is held or supported.
sounds like a wheels stud to me...
Nliiitend1
03-30-2009, 05:08 PM
Dictionary.com:
lug2 http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/L04/L0416900) /lʌg/ http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html) Show Spelled Pronunciation [luhg] http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html) Show IPA
–noun 1.a projecting piece by which anything is held or supported.
sounds like a wheels stud to me...
Touche.
Regardless, this is all semantics. I worded my sermon hastily...
Perhaps I should have said, "You should avoid using the term 'lug' to refer to a wheel stud, lug nut, or lug bolt, since it could be interpreted to mean any one of those things, which are all very different objects. Instead, please refer to the descriptor that specifies exactly what you mean to say. Thanks."
;)
:p
Wagonbacker9
03-30-2009, 05:09 PM
which is exactly what I tried to with my redundancy....
Nliiitend1
03-30-2009, 05:12 PM
No harm, no foul. My frustration perhaps should have been more directed at the OP, as it was his misuse of the term "lug" (as he was using it to described the lug NUT) is what set me off in the first place.
I apologize for de-railing the thread...
daonly1around
03-30-2009, 05:15 PM
wow... this is why when i get my new wheels, I'll take my wheels and tires to get mounted, then bring them back to my house and properly torque them my self.. but you should be able to trust someone you pay to do the work right, but obviously you can't anymore. Sometimes they just jam them on with an impact gun and over torque them and warp the rotor...
Wagonbacker9
03-30-2009, 05:19 PM
yeah, even at valvoline when I worked there, we used an impact gun with a torque stick... when we snapped 2 wheel studs in 3 months that way that was the end of that.... manual torque wrench set to factory spec it was... the shops that just use a socket on their impact gun make me sick...
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