Recommended 30,000 mile perventative maintanence

[bman2033]

So the Mazda Dealership recommends to get a 30,000 and 60,000 miles preventative maintance done to my car. The work includes a laundry list of things they do or check on the car. I have 33,000 miles on my 07 MS3 and I am wondering if this is worth the 511 dollars they said it would be. Or should I just do the regular oil changes and the other regular maintanence work. Has anyone else got the preventative mainanence done to their car and do they feel a difference and was it worth it?? thanks in advance.

[andrew.savage]

So the Mazda Dealership recommends to get a 30,000 and 60,000 miles preventative maintance done to my car. The work includes a laundry list of things they do or check on the car. I have 33,000 miles on my 07 MS3 and I am wondering if this is worth the 511 dollars they said it would be. Or should I just do the regular oil changes and the other regular maintanence work. Has anyone else got the preventative mainanence done to their car and do they feel a difference and was it worth it?? thanks in advance.

I have a MZ3 but I think that I can atest to the maintenance. I have had the 30, 45, and 60K done. All in all cost me probably like 800 dollars. I would def recomend doing the scheduled maintenance. I know there is a stigma with dealerships but especially if you still have the warrantee, get these done because little things will be covered and if you have no money troubles, it feels good to walk out of there knowing everything that is visible to be inspected is working properly.

[Silver Ecstasy]

It just seems like such a rip-off..

It's like when you get an oil change and they check-mark all those things they inspected. Did they REALLY inspect your wiper blades, tire tread and brake pads? Did they REALLY lube the door hinges and whatnot? Hell no..it's just check-marked as a job well done. Thanks for the "visual" jack move!

[eg6motion]

It just seems like such a rip-off..

It's like when you get an oil change and they check-mark all those things they inspected. Did they REALLY inspect your wiper blades, tire tread and brake pads? Did they REALLY lube the door hinges and whatnot? Hell no..it's just check-marked as a job well done. Thanks for the "visual" jack move!

depends on the dealer or shop. I take mine to a local shop to get oil changes and they actually do check everything. So then its worth it IMO.

[Olestra]

It just seems like such a rip-off..

It's like when you get an oil change and they check-mark all those things they inspected. Did they REALLY inspect your wiper blades, tire tread and brake pads? Did they REALLY lube the door hinges and whatnot? Hell no..it's just check-marked as a job well done. Thanks for the "visual" jack move!

They sure as heck checked mine because they put the tread remaining on the work order and it matched the tread I had measured a couple months back.
I also noticed white lithium grease residue on my door handle, so I know they greased up the hinges. I'm never happy about mess left in my car, but a quick spray and wipe gets rid of the residue, so I'm just happy they did the proper maintenance.

[DaleNixon]

Lol with my P5 I was in the warning area with tread level at one oil change then I was back to the safe area three months later on the same tires.

Does anyone have a list of what they supposedly do? Can't we just perform this ourselves?

[GoFast]

Does anyone have a list of what they supposedly do? Can't we just perform this ourselves?

I am pretty positive that it is listed in your manual.

[andrew.savage]

I am pretty positive that it is listed in your manual.

You are completely positive. I saw it in there the other day.

[bman2033]

so i am guessing its worth it then. They told me at the dealership that they were going to clean brakes, transmission flush, lube everything, even change the oil at the same time. I hope they dont just check the areas and not really do anything. I feel like i always get pumped up the arse when i take a car to the dealership.

[Silver Ecstasy]

so i am guessing its worth it then. They told me at the dealership that they were going to clean brakes, transmission flush, lube everything, even change the oil at the same time. I hope they dont just check the areas and not really do anything. I feel like i always get pumped up the arse when i take a car to the dealership.

No one likes the feeling of being violated (nuts)

Transmission flush isn't necessarily required until almost 100k, and I don't know how they're going to "Clean the brakes" without actually saying "You know, these things are pretty worn down, you should get these replaced while we're at it." It's one thing if the 30k package included ACTUAL MAINTENANCE costs as well (ie. Oil Change, Pads, resurface rotors). Legitimate maintenance. Not a "dealer maintenance opportunity".

[Olestra]

No one likes the feeling of being violated (nuts)

Transmission flush isn't necessarily required until almost 100k, and I don't know how they're going to "Clean the brakes" without actually saying "You know, these things are pretty worn down, you should get these replaced while we're at it." It's one thing if the 30k package included ACTUAL MAINTENANCE costs as well (ie. Oil Change, Pads, resurface rotors). Legitimate maintenance. Not a "dealer maintenance opportunity".

I hear ya, but they are a business and if they charged the "actual" cost of maintaining your car, they'd be out of business. =) It's easy to take advantage of someone that doesn't know anything about vehicle maintenance and relies on a shop to do it for them.

That brings up a good point. Watch out for some dealers that create their own packages that are above the recommended maintenance stated in your manual. And of course you're charged extra for it. Just make sure you know what you're getting.

[Circle9]

I thought that the dealership also does a valve adjustment as part of the 30,000 check-up.

[bman2033]

does anyone know or can list like the main 5-10 things that need to get done on the MS3 so I can tell them that is all I wwant done. Another question, does the tune-up include any computer or ecu work that only a dealership can do? If not then i should just go to a mom an pop shop that can do all the flushing and work for a way cheaper price.

[eg6motion]

I thought that the dealership also does a valve adjustment as part of the 30,000 check-up.

if they did than that would def be worth it

[Hank3]

Per Mazda USA's Web site for light duty vehicles (heavy duty is different):

30,000 Miles

If necessary, inspect, repair, clean, adjust or replace Cooling system , Fuel lines and hoses *2 , Brake lines, hoses and connections , Disc brakes , Steering operation and linkages , Front and rear suspension, ball joints and wheel bearing axial play , Driveshaft dust boots
Lubricate All locks and hinges
Replace Engine oil , Engine oil filter
Tighten Bolts and nuts on chassis and bodyIt's fast to register your vehicle on their Web site as it's a quick and easy system to keep your car up-to-date on service records and etc.

[MikeHTally]

Seriously doubt the valves have much to adjust, but I dunno. Most of the "maintenance" can be DIY or pay a shop half that $500. Better chance of it being done if you DIY.

[DaleNixon]

A howto for all that stuff would be awesome! (wink)

[///M Compact]

No one likes the feeling of being violated (nuts)

Transmission flush isn't necessarily required until almost 100k, and I don't know how they're going to "Clean the brakes" without actually saying "You know, these things are pretty worn down, you should get these replaced while we're at it." It's one thing if the 30k package included ACTUAL MAINTENANCE costs as well (ie. Oil Change, Pads, resurface rotors). Legitimate maintenance. Not a "dealer maintenance opportunity".

I change the transmission/final drive or transaxle oil every 30K on my track rats and every 50K on my street cars. Cheap insurance in my opinion. FWIW, my dealer(Kings Mazda, Cincinnati) DOES check everything Mazda calls for(and yes, they DO lube the hood, door, and hatch latches/hinges).

[bman2033]

well i just went to Lube center to get a oil change and a part of their service is to check all fluids and fluid levels. I saw him check each one and then put it on this board that has little holes to hold the different fluids from each part of my car, he showed me that everything was in excellent condition. the only thing that was really dirty was the power steering fluid. It was brown when it was supposed to be red. For me to spend 600 dollars on what would have been replacing perfectly fine fluids except for the power steering is just ridiculous. That was almost all the proof I need that the dealership does not care what condition it is, they will say yes we need to replace.

My trip to the dealership about 3 weeks ago went like this:

I went in to ask to get the free check on the car that mazda does, and i also mentioned that i would like to possibly get the 30,000 preventative maintenance. He said ok come back tomorrow and drop it off. So next day i dropped it off and they were even kind enough to drive me back to my house (and in all my years of owning cars ive never had someone drive me to my house) i thought i was going to have to wait at the dealership. He asked if i noticed anything wrong with the car that they could check. I mentioned:

1. I notice that when i turn my wheel all the way to the right i hear a pop noise. ( in another thread i mentioned about this and how i got this replaced under manu. warranty.)
2. Some times the car bucks in the morning (i said it might be due to the really cold weather here in maryland)

So about 3 hours later the guy calls me and says that they did not see a issue with the popping noise coming from my right front wheel. And that yes I would NEED the maintenance package done on my car. In my head I was like wow that's it you cant even tell me what the condition of the car is overall. If there is any major issues. Nope all they could tell me is "give me your money and your car will run the same way and yes we will replace your already excellent condition fluids and replace it with excellent condition fluid.

All in all I went to Lube Center spent 25 minutes there and found out what was actually needing to be replaced and he showed me and i was able to visibly see what was bad and what was good. I think that was the answer for me is that I AM NOT SPENDING 600 DOLLARS ON THAT BS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE!!!!

Oh and if Lubing door hatches and hinges is hard then, im going to shoot myself. Cause if i know how to put on a condom and lube there Im sure lubing door hinges and hood locks could not be that much more difficult.

[johns]

Per Mazda USA's Web site for light duty vehicles (heavy duty is different):

30,000 Miles

If necessary, inspect, repair, clean, adjust or replace Cooling system , Fuel lines and hoses *2 , Brake lines, hoses and connections , Disc brakes , Steering operation and linkages , Front and rear suspension, ball joints and wheel bearing axial play , Driveshaft dust boots
Lubricate All locks and hinges
Replace Engine oil , Engine oil filter
Tighten Bolts and nuts on chassis and bodyIt's fast to register your vehicle on their Web site as it's a quick and easy system to keep your car up-to-date on service records and etc.
i wouldn't spend 500-600 on this.
the coolant lines you can pretty much do yourself. just make sure there's no green shit on the inside of the undertray.
the fuel lines will be fine unless you smell gas in your engine bay.
the brake lines will probably be fine as well, since you can still stop the vehicle. at 30k, you probably won't have to replace the brake pads, but you can still check them.
your steering wheel works? and turns? i think you're alright there...
what do they check for front and rear suspension? shocks and struts and sway bars? hmmm...you feel any difference with your car going over bumps? if no, then you're probably fine. I WOULD SUGGEST CHECKING THE END LINKS AND THEIR NUTS. THEY'VE BEEN KNOWN TO WALK.
the rest of the stuff idk about...but i'm pretty sure you would notice something if the other shit was fucked up.
the chassis bolts and nuts can be tightened by yourself. so an oil change it is

[robin2660]

So the Mazda Dealership recommends to get a 30,000 and 60,000 miles preventative maintance done to my car. The work includes a laundry list of things they do or check on the car. I have 33,000 miles on my 07 MS3 and I am wondering if this is worth the 511 dollars they said it would be. Or should I just do the regular oil changes and the other regular maintanence work. Has anyone else got the preventative mainanence done to their car and do they feel a difference and was it worth it?? thanks in advance.

Look in your owner's manual. That's what Mazda recommends and that's what you need to do. Anything above and beyond that is up to you. Unless you just drive in perfect conditions, follow the "severe" schedule.

[Hank3]

Unless you just drive in perfect conditions, follow the "severe" schedule.

Hmmm...interesting. Never heard that before. Mazda's definition of "Heavy Duty Driving Conditions" seems pretty explicit. I didn't think I would need to follow that living in FL (shrug)

[ElGaspo]

Oh and if Lubing door hatches and hinges is hard then, im going to shoot myself. Cause if i know how to put on a condom and lube there Im sure lubing door hinges and hood locks could not be that much more difficult.

thanx for getting my day started on a funny note. (rlaugh)

[meicalnissyen]

Per Mazda USA's Web site for light duty vehicles (heavy duty is different):

30,000 Miles

If necessary, inspect, repair, clean, adjust or replace Cooling system , Fuel lines and hoses *2 , Brake lines, hoses and connections , Disc brakes , Steering operation and linkages , Front and rear suspension, ball joints and wheel bearing axial play , Driveshaft dust boots
Lubricate All locks and hinges
Replace Engine oil , Engine oil filter
Tighten Bolts and nuts on chassis and bodyIt's fast to register your vehicle on their Web site as it's a quick and easy system to keep your car up-to-date on service records and etc.

so at the end of the day, they oil the hinges, change the engine oil, and wave a ratchet at it


For 500 bux, and a notation to continue the warranty

[Russm]

Good Day
I had the 30K service done @ 33K, cost $344, I watched them disassemble all 4 calipers ,clean and reinstall, rotate tires, checked alignment and adjusted alignment(toe was off in both front and RR) changed tranny fluid, put a torque wrench on all nuts underneath car and lubed all hinges, changed oil and filter, top off all fluids, test drove found the tires they had put on beginning of winter seemed a little out of balance so they balanced all four again. Russ Darrow Mazda in Milwaukee.
I think I got my monies worth! I am an old Snap-On Tech Rep and I have seen a lot of work done at dealerships and they exceeded my expectations.

[bman2033]

well If i would only have to pay $344 dollars for all of that I would too but they are trying to charge me about $600. And like the guy said at the lube center was that all the fluids were ok anyways. And I have the same amount of miles as you Russm and im pretty sure that you tranny fluid did not absolutely need to be changed. but all in all $344 dollars for all of that is good. I wish my dealership said that it would be that cheap otherwise I would jump all over it. Oh well.

[GoFast]

Good Day
I had the 30K service done @ 33K, cost $344, I watched them disassemble all 4 calipers ,clean and reinstall, rotate tires, checked alignment and adjusted alignment(toe was off in both front and RR) changed tranny fluid, put a torque wrench on all nuts underneath car and lubed all hinges, changed oil and filter, top off all fluids, test drove found the tires they had put on beginning of winter seemed a little out of balance so they balanced all four again. Russ Darrow Mazda in Milwaukee.
I think I got my monies worth! I am an old Snap-On Tech Rep and I have seen a lot of work done at dealerships and they exceeded my expectations.

I highlighted the keywords to this....

[Russm]

Being an old Snap-On Tech rep I don't trust much at dealerships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sure it didn't need tranny fluid change but it does grind in our - temps here in WI and it couldn't hurt!