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tuOdekcalB
03-06-2009, 11:11 AM
So my break in period is over so finally started stepping on it, 1st few attempts roads we little slick so 2nd and 3rd my tires were spinning like crazy. found some dry roads and stepped on it again and idk if i have to get used to it or i am doing something wrong since it my first turbo car, but didnt seem to be as fast as i thought. My friends cobalt ss seemed faster. Need to install my boost gauge and see if my stock bpv is leaking or what. or just maybe gotta give it some time.

lowpro35
03-06-2009, 11:13 AM
your friend's cobalt ss is faster if its and 08. faster isn't always better though. those cobalts inside feel like you got them at a $0.99 store. cheap.

opt_ms3
03-06-2009, 11:35 AM
dude put an intake on that shit. you'll change your mind

Silver Ecstasy
03-06-2009, 11:39 AM
1st problem was waiting until your break-in period was over to get on the car. You should have just gradually got on it every so often.

Keep in mind, boost doesn't build until 2500rpm so that might be part of the issue, and you have access to only 8psi in 1st and 2nd gear, and 15psi spikes with all the rest of the gears.

Otherwise, you might not be driving it right because I can yank people's heads backwards if I want.

Fenrir
03-06-2009, 11:50 AM
With modern cars, "break-in periods" are a myth.

tuOdekcalB
03-06-2009, 11:59 AM
Na his is an 05, also i pretty much get of the gas in like 4th since i am like already going 70. Guess is just have to get use to the car. yea i am going to get a cobb sri intake in a little

clos561
03-06-2009, 12:04 PM
get intake and bpv. (drunk)

clos561
03-06-2009, 12:05 PM
With modern cars, "break-in periods" are a myth.

very true, i drove my car fast from the beginning, i even heard that getting on it was better for piston ring sealing or something

Silver Ecstasy
03-06-2009, 12:06 PM
Typically, we'd recommend mods AFTER already enjoying the car for what it can do stock, as it is really impressive stock. And that's sorta the point..he's not diggin it stock so mods are only going to make it "Sorta better". When really, intake and bpv are going to make the car a total blast after already learning how to drive and use the boost. He said he wasn't sure if because it was his first turbo car or not he didn't know how to drive it..

I can say this, you cannot drive a turbo car like a higher hp NA car or even a S/C'd car. It's totally different.

lowpro35
03-06-2009, 12:34 PM
i can definitely say the car is very different once you get to use all the boost

GoFast
03-06-2009, 12:34 PM
very true, i drove my car fast from the beginning, i even heard that getting on it was better for piston ring sealing or something

I had mine at the drag strip the second night i had it (hand)

lowpro35
03-06-2009, 12:36 PM
i was told, to break the car in, drive it as you intend to drive it for the life of the car......or maybe that applied to my motorcycle.... i don't know, either way same theory about seating the rings properly. plus i've heard that when it really matters is within the first 25 miles anyway. so douchebags test driving it can "break the car in" if that's true.

ElGaspo
03-06-2009, 12:41 PM
if your buddy's cobalt ss is an 05, it means it's supercharged [not turbo] and only good for 200 hp. there's definitely something amiss there. you should be faster. cai will only help, but still...even stock he should be gagging on your exhaust, not the other way around...

lowpro35
03-06-2009, 12:43 PM
now i may be putting foot in mouth here cause i have limited experience with cobalts, but if that cobalt is even slightly upgraded it can yield decent power......if my memory serves me right.

TX Speed 6
03-06-2009, 12:51 PM
don't forget... a S/C will kick on earlier than a turbo, thats probalby the biggest difference your feeling.

cjms3
03-06-2009, 02:07 PM
cobalt ss stage 2 which is pully injectors and a tune i believe only makes 235 wheel =/ oh that includes i/h/e

Sport6
03-06-2009, 02:31 PM
If you car feels slower than a SS/SC then you might want to check to make sure the dealer didn't slap a mazdaspeed sticker on a regular three.

619MS3
03-06-2009, 02:46 PM
thats always a concern of mine, he should pop the hood and see of there is an IC on top of the engine haha

Sport6
03-06-2009, 02:52 PM
I went to a dealer once right when they came out with the Cobalt SS/SC and they dressed one up just like it, (this was before the 2.4L "SS"). Though they didn't put any indication it was an SS which was good, but I am sure they won't play it off as one to a uneducated person.

The speeds don't look a heck of a lot different than the standard 3s... It takes me a few seconds to say yes or no if it was a speed when I pass one, but the wing will be the #1 indicator.

xtrememps
03-06-2009, 02:53 PM
If you have stock tires no wonder you're spinning so much. It's cold out.

Sport6
03-06-2009, 03:00 PM
If you have stock tires no wonder you're spinning so much. It's cold out.

+1 Please don't turn this into a "FWD sucks, AWD wouldn't have slid into the pole on summer tires in the snow/ice thread."

aka don't crash because you were hoonin' on the summer tires below 40degrees

tuOdekcalB
03-06-2009, 07:19 PM
i will like to change my opinion. was messing around with friends cobalt and i am VERY impressed with my car now. I love it.

squidmotion
03-06-2009, 07:26 PM
i was kind of thinking you may have had something wrong or something, because my stock '09 would definitely spank a '95 cobalt SS.... now the new ones... hmmm.. another story all together :)

remember a car always feels faster in the passenger seat, for the most part..


i love giving unsuspecting bros a test drive... 'holy crap, what's in this thing?'

Metro Gray
03-06-2009, 09:08 PM
The summer tires in the winter are absolutely brutal. I bet your acceleration issues are related to this.

I can break the tires loose at the drop of a hat in 1st 2nd regardless how fast I'm going. The torque steer isn't bad at all but getting traction in the cold is impossible. Looking forward to the warmer temps this weekend to get a feel for what the car can do.

hugador
03-06-2009, 09:20 PM
i was told, to break the car in, drive it as you intend to drive it for the life of the car......or maybe that applied to my motorcycle.... i don't know, either way same theory about seating the rings properly. plus i've heard that when it really matters is within the first 25 miles anyway. so douchebags test driving it can "break the car in" if that's true.

It says in the Owner's Manual to break the car in at various speeds.

ElGaspo
03-06-2009, 11:15 PM
i will like to change my opinion. was messing around with friends cobalt and i am VERY impressed with my car now. I love it.


'atta boy! us old timers knew you'd come around! (headbang)

LOL WUT
03-07-2009, 10:20 AM
if your buddy's cobalt ss is an 05, it means it's supercharged [not turbo] and only good for 200 hp. there's definitely something amiss there. you should be faster. cai will only help, but still...even stock he should be gagging on your exhaust, not the other way around...

05 cobalts were rated at 205hp but 95% will put down more than that on a dyno bone stock. Just so you know.

tuOdekcalB
03-07-2009, 10:49 AM
freinds cobalt has stage 2 so think it is making like 230ish HP. And from what i have been experiencing the torque steer isn't as bad as i thought it was going to be. Very easy controllable.

lowpro35
03-07-2009, 05:53 PM
cobalt ss stage 2 which is pully injectors and a tune i believe only makes 235 wheel =/ oh that includes i/h/e
wow that's pretty lame then. so you spend money on :intake, header, exhaust, pulley, injectors, and a tune and only get maybe 30hp

Silver Ecstasy
03-07-2009, 05:55 PM
The SS S/C'd Cobalt was weaksauce. Another example of GM's "Day Late Dollar Short" mentality. Back when Dodge was slingin the crap out of SRT4's (after the release of the F&F movie series), GM tries to come out with a slower pocket rocket. Their latest revision is a huge improvement in power, but I still can't live with one as a DD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STn-K-xp8TA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3-6Tj-CTVg

tuOdekcalB
03-08-2009, 05:27 AM
wow that's pretty lame then. so you spend money on :intake, header, exhaust, pulley, injectors, and a tune and only get maybe 30hp

he didnt get header or exhaust. He is planning on doing that this summer.

Gmac03
03-08-2009, 04:02 PM
very true, i drove my car fast from the beginning, i even heard that getting on it was better for piston ring sealing or something


Very true! http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Gmac

squidmotion
03-08-2009, 06:25 PM
break in period is nonsense... i wouldn't run any kind of oil additives or switch to synthetic for a few 1000 miles, though.

our normal procedure has been:

build an engine
run at 2000-2500 rpms for first 15 minutes of life to seat bearings and lifters
run the crap out of it from then on...:)

clos561
03-08-2009, 11:31 PM
I had mine at the drag strip the second night i had it (hand)

lol i pretty much did that to mine, except my shit was on streets. but for reall its prolly ebtter than babying the car then getting on it hard, the car would be used to it