Roof Rack For The Mazda5 Thread

[barryWest]

Anybody know if there is a third party set of roof racks you can get for a 2008 mazda 5 that fit on to the roof like the factory mazda ones? $464 (cdn) for the ones from the dealer sounds a bit pricey.

I know I can get a set of Thules or Yakimas (which are actually better) for a bit less, but I would prefer to get ones that are integrated with the roof.

[king57721]

06, 07, & 08 should be the same:

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=MorePartInfo&PartID=317755&siteid=214264&catalogid=3987

$288. Call or e-mail to find out are they still do free shipping for purchase over$100.

[SparkyBhoy]

Please post and let us know how much you paid in shipping (one of the places wanted $200 to ship to BC!) as I'm looking for the crossbars also.

Did you take the plunge on the 08? Good financing I hear...(still fuming about that one)

[Zoom5Zoom]

Get the Mazda ones you know they are tested for safety and designed for the least noise.

I can tell you the proper rack makes for piece of mind for whatever you secure to it.... is a improper rack worth a hundred buxs?

[barryWest]

Did you take the plunge on the 08? Good financing I hear...(still fuming about that one)

Yup, we are definitely getting an 08, just waiting for them to come in. Might not be until January so I hope that Mazda keeps its interest rates the same.

Yeah, I can understand your frustration with the rate drop. Stranger things have happened I guess, but I really didn't think it would drop any lower than the 2.9%; that was already lower than what I thought it would be.

[bstad1]

I wanted to get the fixpoint racks also, but felt they were too expensive for the occasional use mine would see. I ended up getting Yakima racks. I ordered the parts I needed piece by piece used from ebay and it came out a lot cheaper. Also, eventually when I sell the car, I can reuse the rack with the new car with minor modification.

[radiohead]

Is the Mazda roof rack easily removable on a 2008? I've used Thule racks for nearly 15 years and I like the fact that they can easily be installed and removed to save gas. How is the Mazda roof rack?

[barryWest]

Is the Mazda roof rack easily removable on a 2008? I've used Thule racks for nearly 15 years and I like the fact that they can easily be installed and removed to save gas. How is the Mazda roof rack?

Hi, I just received my 2008 mazda5 GS last night and got the roof racks as an option. Although I haven't installed them yet as I won't need em' till the spring, I did take them out of the box to see how they fit and it looks like a piece of cake. Basically there are rubber feet and one screw you attach to each end. The mount points are pretty obvious if you take a peek at the rubber runners on your roof. I'm guessing it will be pretty quick to take on and off.
Will it be as fast as your Thules? Probably not. I had a set of Yakima racks for a previous vehicle and once unlocked they just popped off. However, I did find it a bit of a pain to line the yakimas up when putting them back on as they had to be just right or it would not sit correctly. With the mazda racks, there's no guesswork.

[antlind]

Hi, I just received my 2008 mazda5 GS last night and got the roof racks as an option. Although I haven't installed them yet as I won't need em' till the spring, I did take them out of the box to see how they fit and it looks like a piece of cake. Basically there are rubber feet and one screw you attach to each end. The mount points are pretty obvious if you take a peek at the rubber runners on your roof. I'm guessing it will be pretty quick to take on and off.
Will it be as fast as your Thules? Probably not. I had a set of Yakima racks for a previous vehicle and once unlocked they just popped off. However, I did find it a bit of a pain to line the yakimas up when putting them back on as they had to be just right or it would not sit correctly. With the mazda racks, there's no guesswork.

Usually takes me 10-15mins to mount/dismount up the OE roof racks.

[coolmazda5]

So, OEMs are good then. So many threads, I got lost (sad2):
http://www.mazdav.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3603615&postcount=51

Oh, and by the way, I do believe I read *read* somewhere that the OEM are made by Thule anyway (they don't sell them in the Thule web sites though)...

[SparkyBhoy]

Oh, and by the way, I do believe I read *read* somewhere that the OEM are made by Thule anyway (they don't sell them in the Thule web sites though)...

They look suspiciously the same as the Volvo racks that I have, and I'm sure that they were made by Thule.

[fireman1867]

Hi, I ordered the 5 rack from Montgomery Mazda, great price and I got the free shipping! Thanks for the tip. I am heading down to Ogdensburg NY to pick it up on Monday. Just wondering what tools if any are required to install the rack. Also I noticed on the roof there are two little plastic covers on each side, do they have to come off to put the rack on? Thanks in advance.

[schokie]

I just installed the factory rack on our 08 Touring yesterday. My dealer gave me a great price of $235 because they had used it as a demo on a 5 in their showroom. Took about 15 minutes and now that I know what I'm doing should only take 5 minutes to get on or off. I think the only "tool" you need is a razor blade or pair of scissors to cut some plastic sticky tape they give you to protect the paint on your roof.

Yes, you do need to remove the plastic covers. Somewhat a pain in the cold (a flat head screwdriver may make it somewhat easier). They need to slide flat in the direction of the arrow until they click release and then you pull up on them.

IMO, well worth the cost as I also looked at a one-size fits all Yakima option as well. Because it's built for the 5, this thing isn't going anywhere.

[pedro_mazda]

I just installed the factory rack on our 08 Touring yesterday. My dealer gave me a great price of $235 because they had used it as a demo on a 5 in their showroom. Took about 15 minutes and now that I know what I'm doing should only take 5 minutes to get on or off. I think the only "tool" you need is a razor blade or pair of scissors to cut some plastic sticky tape they give you to protect the paint on your roof.

Yes, you do need to remove the plastic covers. Somewhat a pain in the cold (a flat head screwdriver may make it somewhat easier). They need to slide flat in the direction of the arrow until they click release and then you pull up on them.

IMO, well worth the cost as I also looked at a one-size fits all Yakima option as well. Because it's built for the 5, this thing isn't going anywhere.

Hey I'm also wanting to buy the roofracks for my 2008 mazda5, how about some pics? :) How easy is it to install? I phoned the parts dept of mazda and they said the roofracks would cost me $386 plus $128 installation. If its easy enough, I think I'll install it myself. Thanks.

[antlind]

Hey I'm also wanting to buy the roofracks for my 2008 mazda5, how about some pics? :) How easy is it to install? I phoned the parts dept of mazda and they said the roofracks would cost me $386 plus $128 installation. If its easy enough, I think I'll install it myself. Thanks.

That's a lot of money for those racks.....They're overpriced, check another dealer. And you can do the install yourself, it's very easy.

[pedro_mazda]

That's a lot of money for those racks.....They're overpriced, check another dealer. And you can do the install yourself, it's very easy.

Thanks for the tip! I'll try calling another dealer tomorrow. Do you know where I can see a picture of those roof racks?

[SparkyBhoy]

Hi, I ordered the 5 rack from Montgomery Mazda, great price and I got the free shipping!

I got a quick response back from these guys, as I need a shipping fee to Canada.

The price was around $346US including shipping. By the time I add the exchange rate and duty at the border I figure it'll be nearer $380CDN (before GST/PST).

I have looked through e-bay Canada and craigslist for a Mazda parts supplier this side of the border that isn't a dealership, but no luck.

Time is pushing on, and I will need one in the next couple of weeks for a ski-trip that we have planned.

My local dealer has one, in stock, for $418CDN (before GST/PST and after customer discount) so I don't think that it's worth the hassle, or having to pray/hope/wait on delivery from the States, for $40

Not that I'm made of money you understand...

Good price from Montgomery for the US guys on the board though, especially with free shipping (cool).

Oh, and pedro_mazda, you could probably install the rack by yourself, in the dark, with no instructions, whilst wearing oven mitts (FWIW, my dealer offered to install mine for $50)

Here is a photo of the rack:

[pedro_mazda]

I got a quick response back from these guys, as I need a shipping fee to Canada.

The price was around $346US including shipping. By the time I add the exchange rate and duty at the border I figure it'll be nearer $380CDN (before GST/PST).

I have looked through e-bay Canada and craigslist for a Mazda parts supplier this side of the border that isn't a dealership, but no luck.

Time is pushing on, and I will need one in the next couple of weeks for a ski-trip that we have planned.

My local dealer has one, in stock, for $418CDN (before GST/PST and after customer discount) so I don't think that it's worth the hassle, or having to pray/hope/wait on delivery from the States, for $40

Not that I'm made of money you understand...

Good price from Montgomery for the US guys on the board though, especially with free shipping (cool).

Oh, and pedro_mazda, you could probably install the rack by yourself, in the dark, with no instructions, whilst wearing oven mitts (FWIW, my dealer offered to install mine for $50)

Here is a photo of the rack:

Thanks for roof rack photo! Is it really that tall in person? I was hoping to get one with low profile.

[schokie]

It is that tall in person to allow room for the sunroof to operate. I second Montgomery Mazda http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=214264 as having good prices and free shipping in US. As others have said, don't pay for install-very easy to do.

[antlind]

Another suggestion.....get yourself one of those wind deflectors for the roof-rack. As they are tall the wind noise is really something. I installed a Thule wind deflector ($75CAD) on my rack and the wind noise is totally gone.
Anthony

[pedro_mazda]

It is that tall in person to allow room for the sunroof to operate. I second Montgomery Mazda http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=214264 as having good prices and free shipping in US. As others have said, don't pay for install-very easy to do.

I'm having a hard time finding the roof rack in the Montgomery Mazda website. I would appreciate if you can give me the link to the exact product.
Thanks!!

[SparkyBhoy]

I would appreciate if you can give me the link to the exact product.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=MorePartInfo&PartID=538817&siteid=214264&catalogid=5733

[pedro_mazda]

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=MorePartInfo&PartID=538817&siteid=214264&catalogid=5733

Thanks!! (boobs)

[coolmazda5]

They look suspiciously the same as the Volvo racks that I have, and I'm sure that they were made by Thule.

LOL, the rack just arrived. The box label reads:
Mazda Genuine Accessories, made in Sweden. Thule No. 101185

I also got the Cargo Box from Thule (CascadeXT, 15cuft, 677xt). Winter discount and store pickup so no shipping :D

I have checked the instructions. Both seem to be very easy to install. I'll post pics when done (if successful, (hah))

MazdaStuff dot com for the rack (free shipping), Eastern Mountain Sports for the cargo box

[pedro_mazda]

LOL, the rack just arrived. The box label reads:
Mazda Genuine Accessories, made in Sweden. Thule No. 101185

I also got the Cargo Box from Thule (CascadeXT, 15cuft, 677xt). Winter discount and store pickup so no shipping :D

I have checked the instructions. Both seem to be very easy to install. I'll post pics when done (if successful, (hah))

MazdaStuff dot com for the rack (free shipping), Eastern Mountain Sports for the cargo box

Looking forward to the pics !:) My in-law is coming so I will be needing those also. Good luck on the install!

[schokie]

Watch out on the cargo boxes. I bought a Sportrack Explorer A90095 and had to "modify" the box to get it to fit on the rack. The pre-drilled holes were not at all in the correct places. If I could do it all over again, I would have bought one of the Thule boxes through Mazda.

http://accessories.mazdausa.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=11601&storeId=10051&categoryId=30013&parent_category_rn=30002&yearSelected=2007&modelSelected=MZ5&modelName=2007+MAZDA5

If you price out the part number on Montgomery Mazda, the prices are actually better than what you can get the box for at retail. For instance, the short Mazda box (which I'm pretty sure is a Thule Excursion) is only $207.20 at Montgomery Mazda. The same box retails for anywhere between $235-$300. Good luck!

[coolmazda5]

Watch out on the cargo boxes. I bought a Sportrack Explorer A90095 and had to "modify" the box to get it to fit on the rack. The pre-drilled holes were not at all in the correct places. If I could do it all over again, I would have bought one of the Thule boxes through Mazda.

If you price out the part number on Montgomery Mazda, the prices are actually better than what you can get the box for at retail. For instance, the short Mazda box (which I'm pretty sure is a Thule Excursion) is only $207.20 at Montgomery Mazda. The same box retails for anywhere between $235-$300. Good luck!

Thanks shockie. Somebody had MZ5 pics of both installed (same rack and box model) in another forum so no big thing. On another note, the Cascade XT has adjustable (Quick-Snap) drill holes so it can match different rack lengths. If I'm not mistaken this cargo box (and the smaller 1300) are the ones sold by Mazda (I saw the one from Mazda Mexico), but I agree, so one of the things why I did store pick-up is that, in case something goes wrong, I can go and get them :D. I won't have time until next week to test it out though :(. Price for the Cascade 677XT was not matched anywhere (~$338 with tax). There were actually some used ones in e-Bay but the shipping was ridiculous. Check this:

http://www.google.com/products?q=thule+cascade+1500

Looking forward to the pics !:) My in-law is coming so I will be needing those also. Good luck on the install!

Thanks. Let's see how it goes. Same thing here, in-laws are coming, but until May, yet Mrs. coolmazda5 has already some ideas for using it before that (freak)

[barryWest]

The price was around $346US including shipping. By the time I add the exchange rate and duty at the border I figure it'll be nearer $380CDN (before GST/PST).
My local dealer has one, in stock, for $418CDN (before GST/PST and after customer discount) so I don't think that it's worth the hassle, or having to pray/hope/wait on delivery from the States, for $40
Here is a photo of the rack:

We finally got our 2008 last week and I went with the mazda racks for the same reason you state above, it just wasn't worth the hassle getting something similar shipped up here for a few bucks less. After looking at the yakima and Thule options, which were in the same ballpark for price, I came full circle and went with the mazda ones. I haven't tested em' out for road noise yet, but I like the fact that they snap directly into the roof. I noticed they came with the little plastic wing shaped thingies (which were called wind jammers on my old yakimas) so I'm assuming that those things are meant to minimize the noise.

[antlind]

I noticed they came with the little plastic wing shaped thingies (which were called wind jammers on my old yakimas) so I'm assuming that those things are meant to minimize the noise.

Noise and drag....even though I don't think they do a good job at either. You will need to get the roof deflector if you want to reduce these factors.
Anthony

[coolmazda5]

Looking forward to the pics !:) My in-law is coming so I will be needing those also. Good luck on the install!

Here you go, I finally got some time to play around with it. Now, if you have a garage and want to drive around with the new toy, make sure you assemble it outside :D


OEM roof rack, part(s): CC43-V4-701G
Thule Cargo Box: CascadeXT, 15 cu. ft. capacity


Roof rack: ~30 minutes to install. I broke one of the little plastic protection clips of the roof. They are so freakin' fragile :(. Anyone know where to get some new ones? Dealer?

Thule Cargo Box: ~15 minutes to install, 2nd time can be 7-10 minutes (I hope :D)

Now I need to clean the damn thing. Windex the store guys said.

Several pictures, from pickup (the cargo box fits inside the car!), to toddler quality inspection ;) and install (rack and box). So far it worked well. No load added yet. Sorry, they don't seem to be all in order though.

[coolmazda5]

More pics...

[pedro_mazda]

More pics...


Thanks for posting the pics man! Your roof box looks good on the Mazda. Too bad our big stroller wont fit in those. I'll look around for a nice basket. The one on the Mazda site doesnt look too good.

regards

[coolmazda5]

Thanks for posting the pics man! Your roof box looks good on the Mazda. Too bad our big stroller wont fit in those. I'll look around for a nice basket. The one on the Mazda site doesnt look too good.

regards

No probs,

Question, Do you need to take the large stroller with you when traveling? We have small one for long trips (I think it was like $20, babies-r-us). Not the most ergonomic or best quality, but it has an umbrella, a small sack for toys and bottles plus silly brakes for when taking public transport. It folds like in 10 seconds and fits anywhere. Good to go through airports and to ride around.

I ask because I think that if the stroller is very large there will be no cargo box that could fit one. Those late model huge-ass strollers are generally quite wide, so not even folded will make it...

Anyway, have fun!

[pedro_mazda]

No probs,

Question, Do you need to take the large stroller with you when traveling? We have small one for long trips (I think it was like $20, babies-r-us). Not the most ergonomic or best quality, but it has an umbrella, a small sack for toys and bottles plus silly brakes for when taking public transport. It folds like in 10 seconds and fits anywhere. Good to go through airports and to ride around.

I ask because I think that if the stroller is very large there will be no cargo box that could fit one. Those late model huge-ass strollers are generally quite wide, so not even folded will make it...

Anyway, have fun!

We bought this huge ass stroller for my 3 y/o son and the wife is scheduled for c-section for our second son this coming valentines day! :)
http://content.onestepahead.com/assets/images/ensemble/detail/13130_1.jpg

I know it wont fit with any of those cargo boxes so I'm thinking of buying the cargo basket like this one..
http://mzparts.dealerfit.com/store/images/mazda/maz5RoofLuggageBasketWStretchNet.jpg
But I've seen one here in our area and I dont like how it looks :)

[bstad1]

I broke one of the little plastic protection clips of the roof. They are so freakin' fragile :(. Anyone know where to get some new ones? Dealer?

You can certainly get them from the dealer. onlinemazdaparts.com has them for $4.36 each.

[coolmazda5]

$4.36? I will rent another one and swap them one of these days instead, LOL...

No, thanks for the link. I'll also check on the next service appointment, possibly they can squeeze some in for me as a thank you gift ;)

[schokie]

Pedro_Mazda: They do make cargo boxes that will fit big ass honkin strollers like that. The cargo box I got (Sportrack Explorer A90095) fits our Graco DuoGlider and a lot more.

As I previously mentioned, I had to "modify" (completely drill new holes) in the box to get it to fit the Mazda rack. If I had to do it again, I would probably buy Mazda's small box (see my previous post about price). Even though they call it small, it is the only one that has the height and length to fit a double stroller. Take a look at the dimensions.

[SparkyBhoy]

Now, if you have a garage and want to drive around with the new toy, make sure you assemble it outside :D

Good advice coolmazda5!

I installed the bars on ours in the garage last night, and swapped over the Thule Frontier box (11cuft) from the Volvo. Everything worked out fine, but then I realized that the 5 wouldn't get out of the garage with the box on!

The downside of this, of course, means that I will need to install the box (and pack it) when the 5 is on the driveway, and then unpack and uninstall it there as well (bang)

For snowboarding trips away I like to get the packing done the night before (and in the garage out of the elements) so that we can just take off in the morning.

I guess this means those days are over...

On the plus side, I didn't have to relocate the box brackets, which means that the box is interchangeable between both vehicles! The Volvo bars are 32" o/c and the Mazda are around 32.5" o/c

[coolmazda5]

Pedro_Mazda: They do make cargo boxes that will fit big ass honkin strollers like that. The cargo box I got (Sportrack Explorer A90095) fits our Graco DuoGlider and a lot more.

As I previously mentioned, I had to "modify" (completely drill new holes) in the box to get it to fit the Mazda rack. If I had to do it again, I would probably buy Mazda's small box (see my previous post about price). Even though they call it small, it is the only one that has the height and length to fit a double stroller. Take a look at the dimensions.

Well guys, I'll be damned :D. I read schokie's post (thanks schokie) and yes, my "huge-ass" stroller fits in the cargo box (see pictures). The stroller is a Graco Quattro Tour. It is pretty tight though. I had to push down a little to lock the box, so measure well before buying any box. Too tight up there is not very safe IMO.

[coolmazda5]

Good advice coolmazda5!

I installed the bars on ours in the garage last night, and swapped over the Thule Frontier box (11cuft) from the Volvo. Everything worked out fine, but then I realized that the 5 wouldn't get out of the garage with the box on!

The downside of this, of course, means that I will need to install the box (and pack it) when the 5 is on the driveway, and then unpack and uninstall it there as well (bang)

For snowboarding trips away I like to get the packing done the night before (and in the garage out of the elements) so that we can just take off in the morning.

I guess this means those days are over...

On the plus side, I didn't have to relocate the box brackets, which means that the box is interchangeable between both vehicles! The Volvo bars are 32" o/c and the Mazda are around 32.5" o/c

Volvo+Thule?... let me guess, the 1st trip is to IKEA? ;)

Yup, I "had" the same issue so I thought it was worth mentioning. Clearance is about 1" short in my case :(, but at least good to know your box is interchangeable. What Volvo model is it? My mother-in-law drives a v40 in the old continent and we borrowed it last Summer. That is a sweet car. We fitted everything we needed, yet it was much tighter than the Mazda5. With 2+ kids would have turned really difficult to make it I guess.

[SparkyBhoy]

What Volvo model is it? My mother-in-law drives a v40...

It's a 2003 S40. Got it new, and it came with the Volvo (Thule) bars and Thule box.

The S40 is a great car, but we needed a 2nd car, and the 5 checked all the boxes.

[BOCjer]

I have found the Thule racks available for the Mazda3 & 3Sport will work, the threads on the bolts are the same as on the 5, and as they're adjustable for width they will match the width of the 5 without difficulty.

There are rubber feet on the racks which conform to the curve of the roof so there shouldn't be any issues there either. Most of the Thule racks are a lower profile than the 'Mazda' rack and they'll also allow for a wider bar for wider loads.

[coolmazda5]

I have found the Thule racks available for the Mazda3 & 3Sport will work, the threads on the bolts are the same as on the 5, and as they're adjustable for width they will match the width of the 5 without difficulty.

There are rubber feet on the racks which conform to the curve of the roof so there shouldn't be any issues there either. Most of the Thule racks are a lower profile than the 'Mazda' rack and they'll also allow for a wider bar for wider loads.

And where were you 4-5 weeks back when I got the OEM one? Just kidding :D, well, it seems to be a good option for the ones who have not bought one, it is always good to know...

[BOCjer]

And where were you 4-5 weeks back when I got the OEM one? Just kidding :D, well, it seems to be a good option for the ones who have not bought one, it is always good to know...

i wasn't in a Mazda then, or on the forum, soory... I guess just to add insult to injury I should tell you I picked up a Thule off craigslist for CAD $150 - and picked it up locally so there was driving pleasure instead of freight charges! All I need now is a wind deflector to ride in quiet comfort..... when I put the racks on that is.

perhaps if I can figure it out I will post a photo.
~J~

[coolmazda5]

i wasn't in a Mazda then, or on the forum, soory...

perhaps if I can figure it out I will post a photo.
~J~

No probs and welcome! Here is how you can post pics if you want to host them in this forum server(s). I found it the other day and looks like the guy explained easily:
http://www.mazdav.com/forum/showthread.php?p=94554

[coolmazda5]

Model: 871 - Fairing (Medium)
Size: 38 inches

Thanks to antlind for the tip. The subtle wind noise on highway cruise speed barely noticed now...

Phone pics :( so resolution is poor, but gives an idea...

By the way, Thule now has aftermarket options for the Mazda5!

[808mz5]

I went in to inquire about the thule racks and the experts here were not too sure that thule got it right. I went to the top rack specialist in the state and they mentioned that the website has got part numbers wrong... beware. They are bringing in a set to "test" out... they did not want to sell it to me unless they were 100% sure that they would work correctly.

The main concerns are the obstruction of the sunroof with the bars and the load amount....

I'll keep you posted on what happens....

[coolmazda5]

^^ (rant), I don't understand Thule, if they already make the OEM why they make it confusing by adding more standard ones to the list which may or may not work? In the US, Canada and Mexico they may only sell 3 a year aftermarket so I guess no big deal for them

Oh well, at least the price shown by Thule is similar to the OEM ones, so you are still stuck with it :D

Edit:
OEM and the Thule aftermarket racks use the same fairing/wind deflector (871), I just noted that (2thumbs)

http://www.thuleracks.com/ems/fg_vehicle.asp

[808mz5]

the thule racks look a lot better and are more stream lined..... plus the bars extend past the mounts which is needed when you strap down surf boards and need something to tie your straps off to.

[coolmazda5]

the thule racks look a lot better and are more stream lined..... plus the bars extend past the mounts which is needed when you strap down surf boards and need something to tie your straps off to.

Yup, I'm with you, mine look too high for my taste, you may be right, there may be issues with the moonroof or something. What troubles me is, both roof racks (Mazda OEM and the ones you mention) are made by the same guys: Thule (scratch)...

[jkpsmp1]

Finally it is here - ordered our Mazda5 on October 30 and it arrived at the dealer on Friday. Wife believes that it was well worth the wait, and I am super jealous. Next order of business is the roof rack -

I have seen posts that say that Thule will be coming out with a fit kit for the MZ5 - (3069) I believe or I could just go with the OEM Mazda rack. I always internet search for the best deal (I probably spend too much time searching). Here are my results -

Mazda Rack and Short Box - I found the CC43-V4-701G Roof Rack - $280.80 and 0000-8L-G05 Roof Cargo Box - $202.80 for a total $528.40 including shipping to 60073 (North Chicago Suburb) at ocmazdaspeed.com. Sounds like a good deal.

Thule - Went to Thule site and configured for the 2008 Mazda5 and went to each partner site for pricing - only one partner site had all pieces needed - ORS Rack Direct - thule-460 (bracket) $134.10, thule-LB50 (Bars) $53.10, thule-3069 (fit pack for Mazda5) $54.00, thule-667ES (cargo box) $349.00 total with shipping $590.20.

Now for some magic - Mazda Box for $228.24 with shipping at ocmazdaspeed.com and thule rack system for ORS Rack Direct $241.20 with shipping. Grand Total $469.44. The big question is will the Mazda Box fit on the new thule rack set?

What is my best bet?

Thanks,
Jeff the Noob

[stjohnmazda]

Just bought our 5...waiting on delivery

For obvious reasons I have been looking into rack options. I believe there is a 91" rack. Anyone have any pics on this longer option? My fear is that it is too long [hanging over front wind shield].

How long is the next size down?

[capermac]

Installed Thule 460R Rapid Podium with fit kit 3069 finally came in. no problems and does not hinder moon roof operation. Took about 45 mins. Probably take 20 next time. Have not installed the fairing yet 871xt recommended by Thule. Little wind noise noticeable because I am listening not bad though.Ordered from
/http://www.orsracksdirect.com/
No probs and fast shipping.Here are some pics
Now just need to figure out what cargo box to go with THULE Atlantis 1600 or 1800?

[808mz5]

those racks look slick... capermac... could you take photo that shows the whole car... I would like to get an idea on how it compares to the factory racks. I have the same set on order but us being in Hawaii... we always get things late....

You also mentioned that you were going with a fairing.... won't it hit the moonroof?

[coolmazda5]

those racks look slick

+1, a slick design in general, although I'm not too fond of the 4 bar "tips". I like the lower profile compared to the OEMs as well...

Cargo box, I think both are pretty much the same, except the length of course, just watch out for the max weight allowed by the roof (and the box)...

[capermac]

The fairing came with the package I ordered. will put it on when I do long drives. 2 min to put on now that I got it together. It does sit on the moonroof. It has foam pads on the ends where it touches. I will post another photo in the next couple of days

[pedro_mazda]

Installed Thule 460R Rapid Podium with fit kit 3069 finally came in. no problems and does not hinder moon roof operation. Took about 45 mins. Probably take 20 next time. Have not installed the fairing yet 871xt recommended by Thule. Little wind noise noticeable because I am listening not bad though.Ordered from
/http://www.orsracksdirect.com/
No probs and fast shipping.Here are some pics
Now just need to figure out what cargo box to go with THULE Atlantis 1600 or 1800?

those racks looks horrible! you should not drive with those on. you know what, to save you from the potential humiliation you'll be getting driving that hideous thing around town, I'll buy it for half the price you paid for it. I'm helping you here man!!

[barryWest]

Wow, my original post on this topic was back in October of last year and this thread is still going. (cool)

I finally got around to installing the racks on my 2008 mazda5 and I did end up getting the mazda ones; yeah, quite the delay, but the snow only disappeared a week ago!
I just wanted to say that the installation of these are a snap. It takes me about 5 mins to get em' on or off, much quicker than I was expecting. I was very suprised with the lack of wind noise. Even on the highway at 110+ km/hr there is hardly any noise. I used to have a pair of yakimas with wind jammers on my old car and those things would howl once I approached highway speeds, so with the high profile of the mazda ones I was expecting these to even worse.
Anyone else as impressed with how quiet they are? Maybe I'm just lucky with placing the little spoilers they include in just the right place.

BTW, there was some talk in this or another post on whether they are made by Thule. Well, the box they came in says 'made in sweden'.

[coolmazda5]

those racks looks horrible! you should not drive with those on. you know what, to save you from the potential humiliation you'll be getting driving that hideous thing around town, I'll buy it for half the price you paid for it. I'm helping you here man!!

Forgot to insert the envy smilie at the end :D ;)

[capermac]

those racks look slick... capermac... could you take photo that shows the whole car... I would like to get an idea on how it compares to the factory racks. I have the same set on order but us being in Hawaii... we always get things late....

You also mentioned that you were going with a fairing.... won't it hit the moonroof?

808mz5
Yes the fairing will hit the moonroof. I am going to get a moonroof wind deflector don't know if I will get the mazda one or an aftermarket one. Here are the pics you asked for. Also got the tint done today 30% front and 15% rest. Makes a huge difference I think.

[pedro_mazda]

Forgot to insert the envy smilie at the end :D ;)
I'm not very good at sarcasm. Can you give me some tips (second)

[coolmazda5]

I'm not very good at sarcasm. Can you give me some tips (second)

No need, I still remember the Rondo pic of your avatar, that was priceless (lol2)

[zoomzone]

Wow, my original post on this topic was back in October of last year and this thread is still going. (cool)

I finally got around to installing the racks on my 2008 mazda5 and I did end up getting the mazda ones; yeah, quite the delay, but the snow only disappeared a week ago!
I just wanted to say that the installation of these are a snap. It takes me about 5 mins to get em' on or off, much quicker than I was expecting. I was very suprised with the lack of wind noise. Even on the highway at 110+ km/hr there is hardly any noise. I used to have a pair of yakimas with wind jammers on my old car and those things would howl once I approached highway speeds, so with the high profile of the mazda ones I was expecting these to even worse.
Anyone else as impressed with how quiet they are? Maybe I'm just lucky with placing the little spoilers they include in just the right place.

BTW, there was some talk in this or another post on whether they are made by Thule. Well, the box they came in says 'made in sweden'.

All of the Mazda cargo attachments are made by Thule.

[dinne]

Has anyone used the Thule artificial rain gutter brackets to attach to the factory mounting points on the Mazda5? It looks like this can be done pretty easily by drilling a hole in the center of the bracket and bolting through to the factory threads with the bracket in the horizontal orientation.

This way I will be able to use all of the Thule parts I have accumalated over the years. I haven't seen how the factory brackets attached so I am concerned that they are using more than the single threaded points to hold everything togther.

Any insight would be appreciated

[wastin_time]

Has anyone used the Thule artificial rain gutter brackets to attach to the factory mounting points on the Mazda5? It looks like this can be done pretty easily by drilling a hole in the center of the bracket and bolting through to the factory threads with the bracket in the horizontal orientation.

This way I will be able to use all of the Thule parts I have accumalated over the years. I haven't seen how the factory brackets attached so I am concerned that they are using more than the single threaded points to hold everything togther.

Any insight would be appreciated

The new thule mounts use the single threaded points. However the price is a pain even if you have the bars.


460 PODIUM FIXPOINT FOOT = 149
3069 Fit Kit = 60

Granted you can wait for your local store to have a 20% off sale, (EMS and REI recently had such sales) but I have not seen a single store even list the 3069 fit kit. However, there is no point on dropping even 209 -20% on some plastic.

I am going a different route and making my own mounts. The mounting point is a M6 thread and after a little messing around to get proper angles I have a sample that sits properly over the mount points. It is made out of 3 1/2 layers of baltic birch plywood glued up. I'll be drilling and tweaking over the next week and plan on posting the finished product here with details.

Also my plan includes being able to break down the bars (I may just mod my thule bars) to store in the trunk storage space so they are always ready in the 5. And if I get super motivated version 2 will allow for adjustability of the bar position.

[am7555]

Hi to all, I just bought a Mazda 5 2008 and I would like to get a roof rack. If anyone can post some pictures of the connectors on the roof would be fantastic. I want to asses if I can do it myself. I am still a bit hesitant to open the covers myself as the car is only days old.

thanks and zoom zoom to all,

Javier

[antlind]

Hi to all, I just bought a Mazda 5 2008 and I would like to get a roof rack. If anyone can post some pictures of the connectors on the roof would be fantastic. I want to asses if I can do it myself. I am still a bit hesitant to open the covers myself as the car is only days old.

thanks and zoom zoom to all,

Javier

The connector is a simple bolt that can be viewed by sliding the small plastic rectangular cover to expose the bolt hole. Should be easy to do this, it usually takes me 10-15mins to install the pair of racks myself.
Anthony

[coolmazda5]

The connector is a simple bolt that can be viewed by sliding the small plastic rectangular cover to expose the bolt hole. Should be easy to do this, it usually takes me 10-15mins to install the pair of racks myself.
Anthony

+1, although I'm not that handy and took me like 30 minutes, LOL

Some pics here:
http://www.mazdav.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3643853&postcount=44

[sensinitas]

Hi to all, I just bought a Mazda 5 2008 and I would like to get a roof rack. If anyone can post some pictures of the connectors on the roof would be fantastic. I want to asses if I can do it myself. I am still a bit hesitant to open the covers myself as the car is only days old.

thanks and zoom zoom to all,

Javier

I just had an entire system installed on my 5. I had Rack n Road install permanent tracks. Then I installed an Inno Rack system with cross bars which connects to the tracks, and on top of that crossbars, a cargo box. I'll take some pics and post them up. The whole deal cost around $1200, but it's awesome.

[am7555]

Thanks guys. That helps alot. My old mazda a 323 Hatch Back- 93 was a total workhorse for me. I use to haul loads of material to work on my house and with one simple walmart type roof rack I used to carry plywood, drywall and tons of other stuff. So since I want to have a proper roof rackthis time around, what would be an all purpose rack A MAzda or THule. Which one can handle the needs of a family working man the best. :)

Thanks again,

Javier

[mrbwa1]

Thanks guys. That helps alot. My old mazda a 323 Hatch Back- 93 was a total workhorse for me. I use to haul loads of material to work on my house and with one simple walmart type roof rack I used to carry plywood, drywall and tons of other stuff. So since I want to have a proper roof rackthis time around, what would be an all purpose rack A MAzda or THule. Which one can handle the needs of a family working man the best. :)

Thanks again,

Javier

My understanding is that the Mazda rack is made by Thule. The basic difference is that there is a Thule kit available with lo profile bars, and a 2nd Thule kit that is higher profile, like the Mazda bars. So if that makes a difference, then Thule might be the way to go. Other than that, I think the Thule setup might be a tad cheaper.

[Bennett5]

I've seen that in western Europe they can get rails that run along the side of the vehicle, as opposed to the Thule bars that run across the roof. This would be perfect for us since we already have a set of Yakima bars that fit our Freestar van rails. If anyone knows where I can get a set of these, I'm willing to pay. I've attached the Danish Mazda site if anyone else is interested. FYI, we are carrying Kayaks just like in the photo. http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=da&u=http://www.mazda.dk/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmazda.dk%26hl%3Denhttp://www.mazda.dk/Showroom/ExteriorFullscreen.htm?rg={52E40627-4F43-42EF-A30F-2EF233482F76}&model=Mazda5

[muoxfordoh]

I just installed a Thule roof rack last night and it was pretty simple to do. I did make a mistake at the end, though. I was talking to a neighbor and I wasn't paying too much attention to what I was doing and I tightened the front right bolt too tight and it bent the metal underneath the plastic strip and it is now warped and lifted about a quarter inch off the car. I have removed the rack and tried to push it back in place, but to no avail. Does anyone know if it is doable to pop off the plastic strip and bend back (or replace) the metal bracket? I feel like such an idiot for screwing up right at the end. The rack really was easy to install.

On a related note, I bought the Thule 604 Ascent cargo box and if fits nicely on the 5. I will post some pics as soon as I reinstall the rack.

[rtalain]

I'm not sure I know which metal bracket you're referring to. Can you post a picture of it?

[muoxfordoh]

Attached is a pic of the damage. Basically, the black plastic strip is now raised a bit because the metal strap below it is bent (from tightening the bolts too much). I hope rain won't do any harm to the car.

[rtalain]

I know it's not what you want to hear, but I don't think there's an easy fix for that. Unfortunately, you may have to go to a body shop to make sure it's fixed right.

[sensinitas]

Here's my setup - Inno Ride Wide cargo box on Inno XR cross bars mounted to tracks I had installed on the roof. I can fit SO MUCH stuff in that box. I usually just keep my surfboard and wetsuit /inside so I can stop at anytime to get a surf in :p But I use the space this car offers for work, and the box just adds to the utility.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c198/beradical/IMG00049.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c198/beradical/IMG00051.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c198/beradical/IMG00055.jpg

[skyhawk]

Is the inno roof rack lower in height than the mazda one?

[sensinitas]

Is the inno roof rack lower in height than the mazda one?


Don't know. But I'm guessing the Mazda one connects to the door jams right?

[ElfinMagic]

I have a possibility of picking up a used Thule Mountaineer. The specs say this baby is 91 inches long... how will that fit with my 2008 Mazda5 on ThuleRB47 racks? I think it will need to be forward a bit so as to clear the hatchback and the antenna, and my concern is it will hang way over the windshield. Any thoughts?

-em

[rtalain]

Don't know. But I'm guessing the Mazda one connects to the door jams right?

The Mazda racks connect to 4 mounting points hidden in the plastic strips that run down both sides of the roof. There are 4 plastic tabs that cover them if you have no rack.

[sensinitas]

The Mazda racks connect to 4 mounting points hidden in the plastic strips that run down both sides of the roof. There are 4 plastic tabs that cover them if you have no rack.

Got it. I wondered what those were.

[ElfinMagic]

Got it. I wondered what those were.

Two questions:

1) how can those four plastic strips be removed? It looks like they should slide in the direction of the arrow, but I can't seem to get them to budge? Do they need to be pried off?

2) Does anyone (capermac, you there?) know how much height the 460R/RB47 bars will add to the car? 4 inches? six inches? I'm trying to determine if the box I can get will fit in my garage...

Thanks.

-EM

[coolmazda5]

1) how can those four plastic strips be removed? It looks like they should slide in the direction of the arrow, but I can't seem to get them to budge? Do they need to be pried off?

Yes, gently press and slide in the direction of the arrow and eventually they come off. Now, don't press too hard, they are very fragile, I broke one when installing my racks.

[capermac]

Two questions:

1) how can those four plastic strips be removed? It looks like they should slide in the direction of the arrow, but I can't seem to get them to budge? Do they need to be pried off?

2) Does anyone (capermac, you there?) know how much height the 460R/RB47 bars will add to the car? 4 inches? six inches? I'm trying to determine if the box I can get will fit in my garage...

Thanks.

-EM
ElfinMagic the 460R is 4 inches from the roof to the top of the bar on front and rear bars. Give or take an 1/8th of an inch.

I used a Flat tip Screwdriver with a cloth on the end to get the clips of. Gave a tap on the end of the screwdriver with my hand in the direction of the arrow. Came of no probs.

[am7555]

Hi Guys,

I just installed a Thule 460 to my Mazda 5. All went well....I think. I have few questions. How much can you tighten the screws that go to the roof? I went only to the point my fingers found it firm to keep going. I didn't use any hand pression on it as I read of another owner going to much and raising the strip off :(

Also, I tested the lateral strenght by pulling and pushing and it felt ok. But when I do the ssame from front to back there is a little bit of a give. Not much. Did someone experienced something like that???

Cheers,

Javier

[antlind]

Hi Guys,

I just installed a Thule 460 to my Mazda 5. All went well....I think. I have few questions. How much can you tighten the screws that go to the roof? I went only to the point my fingers found it firm to keep going. I didn't use any hand pression on it as I read of another owner going to much and raising the strip off :(

Also, I tested the lateral strenght by pulling and pushing and it felt ok. But when I do the ssame from front to back there is a little bit of a give. Not much. Did someone experienced something like that???

Cheers,

Javier



I tighten them finger tight.....about as much pressure as if I'm turning a bottle cap. The way I see it is that all the weight on the racks will be vertically downward, so a little sideways give should not be a problem. I use my rack for bikes, skis and a cargo box and never had any problems.
Anthony

[am7555]

Thanks for the reply Anthony. That's re-assuring. I'll tighten it a bit more and leave it. Have a great summer. I'm off to play with my car. :D

Javier

[BOCjer]

On a related note - does anyone know which model & size the Mazda Cargo boxes are when x-ref'd to Thule? are they all the same model - just S, M & Lg?

[DocMagoo]

Well, taking the plunge and ordering the Thule parts to assemble the rack myself. Also, tried Craigslist and www.rackattack.com to find cargo carriers, but REI had a pretty good price on a Cascade XL box (http://www.rei.com/product/723239). Looking forward to seeing how this all goes together! :cool:

[coolmazda5]

Also, tried Craigslist and www.rackattack.com to find cargo carriers, but REI had a pretty good price on a Cascade XL box (http://www.rei.com/product/723239).

(2thumbs)

The cascade XL 1500 is the one I have, it is cavernous but still very good aerodynamics...



http://www.msprotege.com/members/coolmazda5/mazda5_may_11_2008%20002.jpg

http://www.msprotege.com/members/coolmazda5/mazda5_may_11_2008%20003.jpg

[DocMagoo]

(2thumbs)

The cascade XL 1500 is the one I have, it is cavernous but still very good aerodynamics...

Thanks for posting the pics! Gives me a better idea for how the 17 cu. ft. box will fit as it looks like you didn't have much problem with it interferring with the antenna in the back or overhanging in the front (alright)

[BOCjer]

It is hard to tell from your photos, does the Cascade XT 1500 allow enough room either side to mount bikes? Is it as wide as the roof, or as wide as the factory racks?

[coolmazda5]

I posted others some time ago, see post below. My guess is that there is no room left...

http://www.mazdav.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3643827&postcount=30

[BOCjer]

yowza! too wide methinks,,, I guess I'm looking at something a little more slender.

As a side note - anyone who's considering a rack using Thule Aero bars may want to re-think things if they're planning on carrying a canoe, Thule sells canoe brackets for square bars - but not the Aero bars.

Swede's,, can't trust 'em.

[amaralp]

Has anyone ordered mazda5 racks from mazdastuff.com before?
Want to know if it is reputable

[coolmazda5]

Has anyone ordered mazda5 racks from mazdastuff.com before?
Want to know if it is reputable

Yes, no problems so far and arrived on time. Free shipping (ground) as well if I remember.

[Distinct]

Yes, no problems so far and arrived on time. Free shipping (ground) as well if I remember.

I ordered one on June 24th and they didn't have stock at the time. I've been trying to call and email them to find out an update and they don't reply. I guess they don't have any in stock so expect to wait.

I wish they would reply back to me.

[amaralp]

Thanks for the quick reply. I give em a call right now.

[coolmazda5]

^^ Oooops, good to know. I may have been lucky then :(. They were in stock when I bought them though. Call them during business hours, US Central Time. They are also a dealership as you may know already (Mazda South in Austin TX)

http://www.mazdasouth.com/contact.php

[amaralp]

Just called, and they are out of stock...damn!
Does anyone know of any other reputable sitesin USA for ordering the racks?
thanks everyone for your help on this.

[zoomzone]

Just called, and they are out of stock...damn!
Does anyone know of any other reputable sitesin USA for ordering the racks?
thanks everyone for your help on this.


Mazda 5 racks are on backorder right now. They are expected to come in 7/15.

Please check with us if you want one when they are available. Free shipping. 20% off MSRP, and we are a forum sponsor.

[DocMagoo]

Installed a Thule rack yesterday with the 460 Foot Pack, 3069 Fit Kit, 50" bars, and a Cascade XT 1700 cargo carrier. Also took pics of the install enough to put together a "How to" but not sure if anyone would gain from it. Here's the pics:

[sensinitas]

Just called, and they are out of stock...damn!
Does anyone know of any other reputable sitesin USA for ordering the racks?
thanks everyone for your help on this.

http://www.racknroad.com

[coolmazda5]

Installed a Thule rack yesterday with the 460 Foot Pack, 3069 Fit Kit, 50" bars, and a Cascade XT 1700 cargo carrier. Also took pics of the install enough to put together a "How to" but not sure if anyone would gain from it. Here's the pics:

That carrier box seems much slimmer but longer than the 1500, that is for sure. It is almost touching the antenna, no wonder you asked earlier (scratch). Regardless, it looks it fits pretty well the MZ5

[DocMagoo]

That carrier box seems much slimmer but longer than the 1500, that is for sure. It is almost touching the antenna, no wonder you asked earlier (scratch). Regardless, it looks it fits pretty well the MZ5

It's got about 3 inches between the box and the antenna, but that's with the box adjusted so that it's as far back as possible. With the adjustable Quick Snaps, the box can be brought forward more. I'm surprised at how cavernous it is inside...it'll be good for the 2200km roadtrip from Vancouver out to Calgary, Red Deer, Edmonton, the Rockies, Prince George and then back down to Vancouver. It's gotta hold everything a family of 5 needs clothing, etc. wise for the trip. I'm looking forward to how the whole thing performs AND if we can squeek 40 imp. mpg on the trip (thumb)

[whosurdaddy]

Can anyone tell me how high is the Mazda OEM rack? I read that the Thule are 4 inches.

Whosurdaddy

[coolmazda5]

Can anyone tell me how high is the Mazda OEM rack? I read that the Thule are 4 inches.

Whosurdaddy

Roof to bar is around 4in. The bar width is around 1in...

[Distinct]

The roof rack is finally installed...

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1829/img1264dz6.jpg

I had a feeling that the rack would not clear the fully opened sunroof and I was right. The OEM rack appears to be really tall for a good reason...

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2389/img1253ir4.jpg

Sucks a little that I can't open the roof when I have stuff up there, but it still works when in the vent position and that's all you need because you sure aren't going to see much sun with a box or boards up there.

Mounting to the right allows me to avoid removing the whip antenna and is easier to access. When I actually transport the board it will be in it's bag and fins will be off.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9395/img1272eo3.jpg

I didn't want to wait any longer for the OEM rack and I didn't really like the way it appeared to sit so high. Can OEM rack owners open the sun roof completely when there's a box up top? I got the Thule rack shipped in parts from various US sources for a very good price, almost half what local Canadians would pay for the OEM rack and they were all on galactic back order anyways.

Can anyone tell me if these racks can be left and used during the winter with road salt exposure? I'm wondering how the hardware holds up.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9708/img1276vu7.jpg

Thanks!

[sensinitas]

The roof rack is finally installed...


http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9395/img1272eo3.jpg

Thanks!

What's with the DC sticker? Any relation to the company?

[Distinct]

What's with the DC sticker? Any relation to the company?

I skateboard (more in the past) and threw it on there because I have a couple Friends with the same surf board.

No relation to the company. Free advertising.

[GLL]

What is the rated weight capacity for the Thule rack system? Mazda says the factor rack is 100 lb. The Thule rack seems more secure.

[Ogre]

Distinct,

The sunroof clears the empty racks, correct?
It just wont clear any flat surface mounted up between them.

BTW what if you added some risers to the actual board clamps and raise the board itself up a bit more.
How close are you from getting the roof completely open?

You also made an excellent point:
it still works when in the vent position and that's all you need because you sure aren't going to see much sun with a box or boards up there.

[Distinct]

What is the rated weight capacity for the Thule rack system? Mazda says the factor rack is 100 lb. The Thule rack seems more secure.

Thule says maximum weight is 75 kilograms. THe rack and podium is 6 kilograms. That means you can load on 152 pounds worth of stuff so it is indeed more than the Mazda/Thule OEM rack.

[Distinct]

Distinct,

The sunroof clears the empty racks, correct?
It just wont clear any flat surface mounted up between them.

BTW what if you added some risers to the actual board clamps and raise the board itself up a bit more.
How close are you from getting the roof completely open?

That's a good idea. The first problem is the sunroof barely clears an empty rack. If you have any attachments like in the picture, the glass comes so close it will actually contact the protrusions. When there's no board up there, I have to remove one of the board attachments so I can use the glass roof. So raising the board up won't work because it's the clamps that will contact the glass at one point as it opens.

I still need to figure something else out. It would involve raising the whole podiums up and then I start to get into high-rise look of the OEM Mazda rack.

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2208/contactuq2.jpg

[Chris B]

What is the rated weight capacity for the Thule rack system? Mazda says the factor rack is 100 lb. The Thule rack seems more secure.

From the Mazda USA website, accessories section for roof rack:

"Sleek and aerodynamically designed, this durable, removable, locking Roof Rack is a convenient way to increase cargo capacity. Versatile design accepts bicycle, ski/snowboard, and cargo carrier attachments and features 165-lb. capacity evenly distributed. Attachments sold separately."

165lbs/2.2 = 75kg, same as the non-Mazda-branded Thule.

[sunglassguyjack]

just ordered my thule from ors racks.com $234 with discount code i found online. My only concern is the sunroof. We are heading to florida soon and would love to be able to open it.

Update: I love the internet....nice deal on the rack...and today........craigslist....thule cascade xt box for $100 woohooo!!!!

[twentysixtwo]

Very nice - I like these a lot more and since I have a Sport without Moonroof, it's better than the OEM rack on stilts which looks goofy....

[jeffmrwonderful]

Hi guys. This was an informative forum which help me with info about getting racks for myself. I ended up finding some Mazda 5 racks on ebay and purchased them there. I recall someone asking about a step by step instruction on installing racks so I took it upon myself to photo document my installation process. It was very easy as most of you have mentioned. The only other thing I would add is to spray the racks with a rust protector (you can see it on picture 6). This is especially important if you are using the racks through winter as I will be carrying baby stuff such as strollers in a thule box throughout these months. That way the bolts won't rust to your car, something I learned from my previous vehicle. Hopefully I have installed these racks correctly but if I didn't I am sure you guys will let me know. Hope these pics will help any future mazda rack installer. Good Luck.

[justchecking]

do the mazda 5 roof racks fit on the mazda 3?

[zoomzone]

do the mazda 5 roof racks fit on the mazda 3?

No. Only in Europe do they offer that. The US Mazda3 does not have preset mounting locations.

[Copper5]

No. Only in Europe do they offer that. The US Mazda3 does not have preset mounting locations.

My buddies' Mazda3 Sport has the holes... (dunno) His is a 2008. Would the racks be the same though?

[Zoom5Zoom]

Mazda 3 Roof Rack does not fit on the 5 or Vis Vera.... As for the holes for the rack on the USA model I suggest you move the plastic raingutter piece to one side where the rack mount would of been on our cars and you will see they are there but covered by the black rain gutter molding

[paulhaskew]

I purchased a roof rack today for the wife's Mazda 5. Now I just need the container... :)

[Mntnbkr]

What rack/brand did you buy and any feedback on it yet?

[paulhaskew]

I got the OEM one from mazdastuff.com. Should be here next Wednesday. Once installed we are taking a trip over to Joe's and finding a container.

[reade13]

Has anyone had any trouble fitting a particular Thule cargo box to the Thule rack that Mazda installs on a 2008 Mazda 5?

I got a great deal on an Evolution 1600 (model 672), only to find that the front and back holes aren't far enough apart to fit the cross rails. The Thule web site lists this model as one that will fit the '08 Mazda 5... I even asked my Mazda dealer if they might have installed the rack incorrectly (though I knew what their answer would be).

Wouldn't it be useful if there was a list somewhere of the racks/cargo boxes that definitely fit your car?!

Now I need a cargo box before we head home for the holidays, and there don't seem to be any sold in stores in this area (Dayton, OH) except the SportRack Aero XL. Anyone had any luck with this one?

[reade13]

Well, I'll answer my own question, then!

After discovering the Thule Evolution 672 cargo box does not fit on my factory-installed Thule roof rack, I did more web research and bought a Thule Ascent 604 (1600 cubic feet). It fits, and I'm sure all of the Ascents would.

The great thing about the Ascent is that it attaches to the rack by clamps that you tighten by turning a knob--very easy, and no tools required. Even better, there are no pre-drilled holes to fit screws through. My rack was just 1/2" off the mark for the holes in the Evolution box; I would have had to drill my own holes to make it fit. With the Ascent, you adjust the clamps to fit your rack by moving them along a slider. The slider is about 36" long, and accommodated my rack with a few inches to spare.

[GWDavis281]

Reade13, cool man thanx for the info. So since there are no drill holes it would leak any water, correct??

Glenn |B)

[reade13]

GWDavis281,

The cargo boxes I've seen that do have holes for rack placement come with vinyl covers that you're supposed to use to plug the unused holes. I assume the purpose is to reduce drag and/or wind noise. I guess you could leave them open if you're carrying wet things, like snow-covered skis, and want the water to leak out the holes. The bottoms of the boxes aren't really designed for this, though, as they usually aren't completely flat. Water would probably just pool in the bottom of the box.

The sliding tracks in the Ascent cargo box cover the long opening through which the clamps attach to your crossrails, so no water would get in or out through there.

Hope that answers your question!

[Frenzal]

I'm thinking of buying a roof rack for our 2006 Mazda 5 and came across http://www.mazdarack.com/index.html. They sell Thule roof racks for all Mazda models at a really faire price. The web site is only available in french for now but simply email them and they will be able to answer your questions.

Frenzal

[Quickbeam]

Hi All,

I'm new to this forum and do not yet own a Mazda 5. Will probably be purchasing one this coming spring. My wife and I are kayakers and plan on transporting our kayaks on the Mazda 5. I therefore have a couple of questions about roof racks for the Mazda 5:

1. I noticed on one of the posts in this thread, that someone had purchased Thule racks for the Mazda 5, and when they laid a surf board across the racks the sun roof would not fully open. Does anyone know if the racks had been purchased directly from Mazda if the sun roof would have opened? I believe the racks from Mazda are taller.

2. I believe it is post #95 in this thread, where the poster talks about Thule "Aero bars". I'm not sure what "Aero bars" are. We currently have Thule "saddle racks" to transport our kayaks on. Does anyone know if the Thule saddle racks will fit on either the racks from the Mazda dealership and / or the Thule racks for the Mazda 5? Also, what are "Areo bars"?

3. I believe the space between the Mazda racks is about 32 inches. We plan on transporting two, 16 foot kayaks. Does anyone else out there transport kayaks on their Mazda 5, and if so do you believe a 32 inch separation between racks is enough? Note that I currently drive a Dodge Caravan and I have the racks set so they are spaced 44 inches apart.

Thanks so much for your help. Any information you could provide would be much appreciated.

[reade13]

We have an '09 Mazda 5 with Thule roof racks purchased/installed through Mazda. The sun roof does open with the racks on. I don't think the '08 would be any different, but I'm not 100% positive.

[Quickbeam]

Thanks for the reply. You said the sunroof opens with the roof racks on, and please excuse my ignorance, but does this also mean the sunroof opens with something loaded on the roof racks?

[DoubleT]

My wife and I are kayakers and plan on transporting our kayaks on the Mazda 5. I therefore have a couple of questions about roof racks for the Mazda 5:
I have already bought my 2008 Mazda 5 months ago (no sun roof) for the purpose of transporting one sea-kayak and one road bike. Searching this forum I figure I can carry two bikes (both front wheels off and upright inside the car, but bike seats lowered) and two kayaks on top if I want.
I do believe the dealer roof rack allows room for the sunroof and I don't see how a kayak (whitewater or sea) on top will be a problem. Obviously I don't have to worry about it myself. I think I will get the Thule model since it is not as high as the dealer version and to me looks way too high by itself.
I am always "listening" on this forum for suggestions or tips on roof racks till I get my rack in the spring.

[reade13]

Thanks for the reply. You said the sunroof opens with the roof racks on, and please excuse my ignorance, but does this also mean the sunroof opens with something loaded on the roof racks?

I remembered your question yesterday when I happened to be driving our Mazda (it's my wife's car, so I rarely get to see it/drive it). I opened the moonroof all the way. It's hard to see if it goes up above the roof rack, and would bump into items on the roof rack. It's very close. If there was something on the roof rack, you could just open the moonroof part way. I'm assuming the '08 moonroof works like the '09: there are two buttons to push to slide and raise the moonroof, and you can open it as far as you want to.

Keep in mind that our roof racks were purchased and installed through our Mazda dealer--I don't know if they're the same as other Thule roof racks or not.

[fjr35758]

Anyone know where I can buy side window deflectors for the 09 Mazda 5
fjr35758

[coolmazda5]

Anyone know where I can buy side window deflectors for the 09 Mazda 5
fjr35758

Please search under the main Mazda5 area (Lounge + Welcome Area or Appearance) so to keep this thread on the roof rack topic. Thanks!

[Quickbeam]

I was wondering if anyone can tell me the length of the actual roof rack bars (not the space between the bars but the length of the actual bar itself) of the Thule racks for the Mazda 5. Please note I am not talking about the roof racks that are purchased from the dealer, but rather the racks built for the Mazda 5 by Thule that are not sold by the dealer. Thanks.

[OilGuy]

Yakima recommends 58" bars; I would assume the same for Thule.

[sensinitas]

So I took the box off the top of my car for it's detailing this weekend. Lucked out that I had to drive to the desert and back today starting with a full tank of gas. I had to fill up on my way home, but I averaged around 6 mpg better WITHOUT the box.

With the box = 21-23 mpg
Without = 28 mpg

[nftyper]

Does anybody have the Thule Podium Foot Pack 460 on their 5? how's the install? How's the fit? and do you have some pics? I have the thule bars from my old subaru and will like to use them on the 5 instead of buying a whole new system.

Ok so i read down the thread that you'll also need the 3069 Fit Kit with it so ill just sell my old rack and get a whole new system i guess. I paid less for my subaru rack than i would have to pay for just the foot pack and fit kit for the 5. I wish the 5 had the roof rails so i can just use what i have.

[paulhaskew]

Still have yet to get a box, but the Mazda rack does look nice... :)

[Garry Ganu]

Hello! I'm planning to install a roof rack and a box for additional storage capacity..
Any ideas or recommendations? Can i install it by myself?
Thank you in advance...

[antlind]

Hello! I'm planning to install a roof rack and a box for additional storage capacity..
Any ideas or recommendations? Can i install it by myself?
Thank you in advance...

If you go with the OE roof rack that mounts into the roof then it's a 10 minute installation/removal process. There are other aftermarket racks available, but I'm not sure how difficult/easy they are to install.
As for the cargo box, they simply mount onto the rack. You will need to ensure that the mounting spots on the cargo box are the same width apart as the roof rack bars since these bars are set at a fixed width and do not slide.
If you plan to keep the racks installed year round then I suggest you go for a wind deflector/fairing to reduce the wind noise.
HTH.
Anthony

[Garry Ganu]

If you go with the OE roof rack that mounts into the roof then it's a 10 minute installation/removal process. There are other aftermarket racks available, but I'm not sure how difficult/easy they are to install.
As for the cargo box, they simply mount onto the rack. You will need to ensure that the mounting spots on the cargo box are the same width apart as the roof rack bars since these bars are set at a fixed width and do not slide.
If you plan to keep the racks installed year round then I suggest you go for a wind deflector/fairing to reduce the wind noise.
HTH.
Anthony

Thank you anthony!

10 minutes installation for OE roof rack.. but aren't they a little bit expensive?
And i saw the mounting ports in the roof.. how do you remove those?
And how about "Thule"? Would you recommend it?
Thanks

[antlind]

Thank you anthony!

10 minutes installation for OE roof rack.. but aren't they a little bit expensive?
And i saw the mounting ports in the roof.. how do you remove those?
And how about "Thule"? Would you recommend it?
Thanks


Anything OE for the Mazda5 is expensive.
There should be 4 rectangular plastic covers for the 4 mounting ports...just slide them and it pops out. There is no need to pry them out.
Not sure about the Thule...I think Thule makes one that is identical to the OE rack (in fact the OE rack may even be made by Thule)...Do some searching on this forum as there are many posts with rack options.
Good luck.

[Garry Ganu]

thank you everyone for this thread! this really helps!!
maraming salamat!

[batmick]

Just wanted to add my info.
After a long search I finally decided on a rack and cargo box for our Mazda5. Thanks to all contributors here for helping me decide. I will post some pics later when I get around to washing the car :D

I went with the OEM rack after realizing that the Thule and Yakima setups with the respective adapters would not run any cheaper. So I figured I might as well take what's made specifically for the car. Found a good deal on Ebay, got it and the install was indeed just a matter of minutes.

For a box I found a near new Thule Cascade 1500 on Craigslist. It looked huge in the garage but once on the car it fit quite well. The Antenna clears and there is no interference with the hatch and no overhang over the windshield.

Now we're all set for our big camping trip this summer. And with an overall price-tag of just over $400 we're better off than with a rental van, like we did last year.

[sooperedd]

Does anyone know the weight limit for the Thule roof rack?
I roll with 2 mountain bikes up top with 2 Yakima King Cobras.
It looks like there is only 4 small bolts that hold the rack on?
Should I be scared?

[red headz]

We are looking for roof rack options. Our VW Golf has a full Yakima rack w/ bike, ski, & box attachments.

It'd be nice to use all the same attachments with the M5 rack... and I've been leaning toward Thule. I know Thule and Yakima attachments are now universal.

The OEM rack from Mazda - will Yak and Thule attachments fit an OE rack?

[Garry Ganu]

Is there a roof rack law or restrictions here in the United States? thank you.

[Outlander]

After looking all over the internet I got myself several pieces I was able to assemble together. Tried to drive and everything still in place.

Inno rack, 1 set of Yakima Boa on the RAGE basket, Thule fairing (removed from the other car and bought new one to replace).

Comments welcome.

[Outlander]

Does anyone know the weight limit for the Thule roof rack?
I roll with 2 mountain bikes up top with 2 Yakima King Cobras.
It looks like there is only 4 small bolts that hold the rack on?
Should I be scared?

No, you should not. People behind you should. :)

I believe Mazda claimed 100 lbs is OK. Not only 4 small bolts holds the rack on - the whole roof is for this. Small bolts just keep it from moving.

For my bulky system I calculated the total weight - 25lbs basket, 15lbs racks. One bike is about 25-30 lbs - Mazda will hold all of it. Would not put anything else in the basket with two bikes, anyway.

[red headz]

Outlander -

Nice. We will probably do a similar rack setup. Does the Inno attach well? Those 'wells' or adapter locations where the feet/clips drop into the black strips... it's solid yes?

I've had Yakima for years -on my 98 Civic, 97 Jetta and 00 Golf - and I have felt very comfortable with any/all loads. The rack fitment was solid, and anything I placed on the rack was also secure...

Before I purchase the Inno system (which now tops my list) - I want some assurance.

michael.
p.s. has anyone else seen the roof rail system the UK M5's get? I started a different thread regarding the rails - if we can get them stateside.

[Outlander]

Outlander -

Nice. We will probably do a similar rack setup. Does the Inno attach well? Those 'wells' or adapter locations where the feet/clips drop into the black strips... it's solid yes?

Yes. The attachment is very firm and secure. (the base made of hard rubber with metal plate inside. You have 3 screws on every foot - 1 to the roof and 2 to attach the foot to the base kit)
In details - you are buying two separate pieces - feet with cross bars and then separate fit kit specifically for Mazda5. (the fit kit cost 49 and they do not charge for separate shipping. Locks included). I paid $190 + $49 for feet+cross bars + fit kit. (shipping included ) Mazda's original would cost best case $280 + sh.


The other thing that I considered positive - the cross bars are lower to the roof compare to Mazda's thule bars. If you do not have sun roof you do not neet to have them elevated.

The cross bars are identical to Thule's. Also, I cut them a few inches to make shorter on sides.

Inno is most popular brand in Japan (Made in Japan - this what I had on the box and manual in japanese only - but pictures more than enough to install). On US market it is only few years this is why we have a little concern.

If you are going to make identical set up please note that the fairing the Thule has currently on the market is smaller than the old one I used.
Will cover much less.

[red headz]

Outlander -

While you were posting - I was shopping online. (cool)

'snowboardforsale.com' has a M5 Inno base rack for $160 + $10 shipping. It includes RV-Inno XR Stays, RV-Inno TR120 fit-hooks, and RV-Inno 46" bars.

And two more online rack retailers 'racknroad.com' and 'orsracksdirect.com' both selling the same Inno setup listed above for $300 with free shipping.

I will probably select longer bars as I want extra rack space. Then if I need to cut them down, I can. I would prefer too long than too short.

We have a sunroof. I can work around that if needed. Fairing will be selected later depending on what I can find on Craigslist.

michael.

[Outlander]

Outlander -

While you were posting - I was shopping online. (cool)

'snowboardforsale.com' has a M5 Inno base rack for $160 + $10 shipping. It includes RV-Inno XR Stays, RV-Inno TR120 fit-hooks, and RV-Inno 46" bars.



Looks like you got a perfect deal. I just looked at me receipt - I paid Inno XR Stays - $116.99, Inno Cross Bars 46" $54.99, TR120 fit-hooks - 49.99 and s&h $21.98. (protest)

[Garry Ganu]

Hello!
Finally, here's my setup...
Thule Square Bar Roof Rack System.. ($243.00 from orsdirect, free shipping)
Yakima Skybox 18 (18 cu.ft. $367.00 from easternmountainsports)

We need this setup for the extra storage.. :)

[tnmz5]

I'm curious. Those of you who bought the Inno racks - are they easy to put on and take off? I know that the OEM ones just take a couple of minutes. I don't want to leave any rack on for long periods of time, but would love the versatility the Inno has with its many options.

[Outlander]

Looks like it may take few minutes. It is possible to leave the bases in place - special covers are included. In this case you do not need to uninstall the whole construction, just remofe cross bars and stays.

I have Thule roof rack on my wife's Odyssey and it does not seems to be easier to take it off the roof.

I'm telling this again - Inno looks like very high quality and easy to use.

(On the picture bases, you can keep on, are pointed.)

[sensinitas]

I'm curious. Those of you who bought the Inno racks - are they easy to put on and take off? I know that the OEM ones just take a couple of minutes. I don't want to leave any rack on for long periods of time, but would love the versatility the Inno has with its many options.

What part of the rack are you speaking of? The actual attachments, or literally the ENTIRE rack system? The attachments are quick, and the crossbar assembly doesn't take long either.

[Outlander]

Hello!
Finally, here's my setup...
Thule Square Bar Roof Rack System.. ($243.00 from orsdirect, free shipping)
Yakima Skybox 18 (18 cu.ft. $367.00 from easternmountainsports)

We need this setup for the extra storage.. :)

Looks perfect. If I would go with the box I would go with something like this.
Are you driving with the box all the time or just for travel occasions?

How it affects the mileage?

[Outlander]

What part of the rack are you speaking of? The actual attachments, or literally the ENTIRE rack system? The attachments are quick, and the crossbar assembly doesn't take long either.
Actually did not clock myself with Mazda yet, but on Odyssey it was much quicker to remove the entire rack then take off the attachments (two Thule velo vise ). The Inno rack does not look less convenient than Thule's.
However you are absolutely right - either way should not be time consuming.

[red headz]

Seems like this thread is moving finally.

I am leaning towards Inno based on price. Then Thule just because I like their stuff & Yakima last due to the clip issue.

However - I have yet to see any M5's with a sunroof & a non-Mazda roof rack.

The OEM Mazda allows for the sunroof to be opened, but it's soo tall (to allow for the sunroof, I get it.

But I'm still wondering about Inno and Thule with our sunroof? (shrug)

michael.

[Outlander]

It might help - the Inno cross bar stands above the roof a little bit more than 3in. The attachments may take some space too.
Just check how high the sun roof goes above cross bar line.

[Garry Ganu]

Looks perfect. If I would go with the box I would go with something like this.
Are you driving with the box all the time or just for travel occasions?

How it affects the mileage?

Thanks!
Travel. I'll be removing the box once i get the fairings i ordered..
As far as the mpg is concerned, i still have no idea.. but base from air resistance I'm experiencing.. I'll be dropping from 28 to 23.. i think.
I'll post the figures once i had 2 to 3 full-tanks..

[EZPs_whip]

Garry - looks sweet! I was thinking of getting the same Thule rack but the Thule Atlantis 1800 box instead -- although, after seeing your setup, the Yakima sky box is making me reconsider. I initially thought that a 92 inch long box would be too long and might have more overhang up front to keep in from hitting the antenna. As it is, the Cascade XT 1700 box that DocMagoo has seems fairly long at 91 inches - and that's why I was looking into the Atlantis 1800, which is only 84 inches long. The fact that the Yakima box is wedge-shaped in the back seems to help with the angle of the whip antenna also.

Since you still have your box on the roof, I was wondering if you could post any more pictures of your setup - one directly from the side and one from the front if possible. Also, can you tell me what the rack+box adds to the height of the M5 (64.2inches). I want to see if I'll be able to drive into the garage without having to take the box off.

What I'm loving about the Sky Box is the wedge shape and the great price!!! But.... what I don't like about it is that, for the same cu ft as the Atlantis, it weighs 8lbs more (not much, but still about a gallon of H2O) - and that it has a matte black finish which will most likely fade over time - since it has not UV resistence, not to mention that the matte finish would nicely hold onto the bugs it comes into contact with at 70mph. I know there is a glossy silver one but I want black, plus the silver is more $$.

BTW, anybody know if the weight capacity for this Thule 460 Foot Pack/3069 Fit Kit/50" bars will also be 165lbs like the OEM Thule Mazda rack (don't know if this is a roof limitation or a rack limitation...).

Anybody recommend one box over the other? Here are the specs for both boxes - decisions... decisions.....

THULE Atlantis 1800 Roof Box, Black
$579.00
44 lb.
18 cu. ft.
84 in.
34.4 in.
16.9 in.
Dual Side opening
6-8 pairs skis

YAKIMA Sky Box 18 Roof Box, Black
$367.20
52 lb.
18 cu. ft.
92 in.
36 in.
16 in.
Dual Side opening
6-8 pairs skis

[Garry Ganu]

I have an average of 24.7 mpg when the yakima box is installed.

EZPs_whip
I'm so sorry i can't help you with the total height as i've removed it already since i receive the fairings(a must) i ordered.
here are the pictures though..

also, you can still slide the whole box towards the antenna.. i set it up like this just to balance the weight. :)

Thanks everyone!

[EZPs_whip]

Awesome, thanks for the pics. Looks exactly like what I want. I might have to be a copycat :-) BTW, can you manage to lift and put the box on the roof by yourself? I have no problem lifting 52 lbs. but I've never had to lift something that as big and weighed 52 lbs - and no I'm not a wuss... Thanks Gary.

[mazdaspeedster3]

I have the slightly lower profile box to the one on Garry Ganus. It holds 4 sets of skis comfortabley and even my wife (5'4" 130lbs) can put it on the 5 herself. She has to use a step ladder to get it hooked but can pick it up and slide it up there herself. Gas mileage does go in the toilet though so I take it off when not in use.

[OilGuy]

GG, what's that extra mirror off your back window?

[EZPs_whip]

GG, what's that extra mirror off your back window?

It's a "rear under mirror".
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123735708

GG, does that thing work well?

[EZPs_whip]

I have the slightly lower profile box to the one on Garry Ganus.

Can you please share details of the box - i.e. make/model/cu.ft.

[BOCjer]

Okay,

So looking at the photos on http://www.mazdarack.com/f/index.html I see that there are two height possibilities from Thule, one of which is not suggested for vehicles with a sunroof as it has a lower overall height.

I have a 5 without the sunroof / moonroof and i have the 'Aero bar' thule racks with the taller (751XT @ 11.5cm) towers which will allow the moonroof to open.
Is there anyone out there with a moonroof and Thule racks which do not offer the clearance (753XT @ 8.5cm) that you need, who is interested in swapping towers?

This way you'll get the racks you need to be able to open your moonroof all the way, and I'll still have racks that work.

If anyone is interested pm me and i'll try to get photos etc. on the way too.

~j~

[red headz]

Yes!!! I would like to swap.

I need the height. We have a sunroof.

michael.

[red headz]

:(:(:(:((canada) :(:(:(:(

I don't speak French.

But I am still very interested in swapping my low towers for your high towers!(hippy)

michael.
located in Tacoma, WA, 98407

[DoubleT]

I'm ready to buy the Thule racks for my 2008 Mazda (no sun roof). Any suggestions for a retail store with the best price in GTA area? So far I have looked at Rack Attack, Mississauga, price $389 (no locks and the lower cost bars). Need the stuff in a week.

[mazdaspeedster3]

Here is a decent pic of the Thule on the 5.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn9/mazdaspeedster3/IMG_3647.jpg

[MamaLizzy]

Took forever and a day to get my roof rack from the dealer (total of like 3 months!)

Does anyone have a manual on how to take them off when not in use?? I had mine put on at the dealership, and they didn't save the instructions on how to remove them!

[mazdaspeedster3]

Do they look like what is on the 5 above your post?

[coolmazda5]

I think mazdaspeedster3 really likes showing off his rack in this forum, oh wait, What did I just write? LOL

Install-uninstall is relatively straightforward, you just need the lock keys that came with the rack to open its base covers and unscrew. Now, before you do it, Did the dealer give you back the little plastic roof "hole" covers (4, 1 for each base)? Those are needed after uninstalling so no water/dust gets into the left holes where the roof frame is.

See pics:

Closed:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=124041

Opened with the key, then just unscrew each (counter-clockwise I believe)
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=124039

[AIMWO4]

I went with a cargo box...

[coolmazda5]

I went with a cargo box...

I didn't know that in Colorado is legal to carry your kids in the cargo box, happy kid to say the least though (lol2)

But wow, that is awesome, even the liftgate opens fully and everything, clever.

[batmick]

Sorry for the long delay. I had promised pics a while back but never got around to it.
Here they are at last. From our camping trip to Zion.
To recap, those are the Mazda factory racks and a Thule Cascade 1500 box I got used off Craigslist. Install was quick and painless as was the removal after the trip. The hardest part is to find a storage spot in the garage...

I was surprised how little noise the box/rack combo added to the drive and gas mileage was better than expected too. We averaged 25.5 mpg over the 1000 mile trip. But crosswinds really do get a grip on you and we had a couple of scary moments while going through the canyon region between AZ and UT.

No way we could have made this trip without the box. 2 adults and two kids and all the camping gear for two weeks.

[ZoomZoomZoomer]

I went with a cargo box...

RESEARCH WARNING!

I emailed RackAttack online regarding the best cargo solution for my Mazda5. We were considering the rear hitch cargo box. We were planning to swap out the box for a bike/ski hitch when needed. This is what RackAttack told us.

"If you are interested in looking into a rear-mounted system, you would have to get a trailer hitch installed. However, the Mazda 5 can only handle a Class 1 trailer hitch, which is the smallest class of hitch for vehicles. This would mean that you would be able to get a bike rack with a 2-bike maximum carrying capacity. You could then add a ski rack to that, but the car is not terribly high, so if you have long skis, there is a risk of hitting the ground. You cannot put cargo carriers on Class 1 hitches at all, so if you would like something like that you would have to put it on the roof. It looks as though the roof solution would be the best solution, but it all depends on what you want to carry with what, and in what kind of quantities (ie. bikes).
If you do want to go ahead with a hitch, give one of our stores a call.
Thanks. Rack Attack. www.rackattack.com"

I'm concerned that a rear cargo box or Class 2 hitch might compromise the car's safety, my warantee, or my insurance coverage. There are reasons that Mazda doesn't sell hitches for M5s. The manual clearly states: Do not tow anything.

[AIMWO4]

Yeah... I'm sure they are the experts. (bowdown) Your one post here also makes me wonder how much "research" you did. LOL

Hitch has 200 LB tongue weight capacity.
Box + cargo can equal ~ 150 LBs (Under the llimit)
Bike rack + 2 bikes is less than 200 LBs
Mazda5 has a 1200+ LB capaicity (Net to Gross)

And that's from memory!

1 Post. (notcool)

RESEARCH WARNING!

I emailed RackAttack online regarding the best cargo solution for my Mazda5. We were considering the rear hitch cargo box. We were planning to swap out the box for a bike/ski hitch when needed. This is what RackAttack told us.

"If you are interested in looking into a rear-mounted system, you would have to get a trailer hitch installed. However, the Mazda 5 can only handle a Class 1 trailer hitch, which is the smallest class of hitch for vehicles. This would mean that you would be able to get a bike rack with a 2-bike maximum carrying capacity. You could then add a ski rack to that, but the car is not terribly high, so if you have long skis, there is a risk of hitting the ground. You cannot put cargo carriers on Class 1 hitches at all, so if you would like something like that you would have to put it on the roof. It looks as though the roof solution would be the best solution, but it all depends on what you want to carry with what, and in what kind of quantities (ie. bikes).
If you do want to go ahead with a hitch, give one of our stores a call.
Thanks. Rack Attack. www.rackattack.com"

I'm concerned that a rear cargo box or Class 2 hitch might compromise the car's safety, my warantee, or my insurance coverage. There are reasons that Mazda doesn't sell hitches for M5s. The manual clearly states: Do not tow anything.

[batmick]

It has been discussed in some other thread, I believe, why the US model of the M5 with the 2.3 liter engine has virtually no towing capacity while the European models (even with the smaller engines) are fine for smaller trailers etc..
If you ask me there were lawyers involved at some point who saw potential for suits because of oversized trailers getting hooked up or similar. So the safest thing to do was to just forbid all towing.
I agree with AIMWO4 that the cargo box is probably safely within what the car can handle. But ZZZ has a point with the warranty/insurance issue. With the "no towing" clause they all covered their butts and passed the old maid to the owners.

[remarquian]

Yeah... I'm sure they are the experts. (bowdown) Your one post here also makes me wonder how much "research" you did. LOL

Hitch has 200 LB tongue weight capacity.
Box + cargo can equal ~ 150 LBs (Under the llimit)
Bike rack + 2 bikes is less than 200 LBs
Mazda5 has a 1200+ LB capaicity (Net to Gross)


It's been 25 years since I took statics in engineering school, but I would assume that is 200 lb tongue capacity as where the ball of the hitch would normally be. So that is:

200lb x whatever the distance from the ball to the closest set of bolts worth of torque.

From what I can tell from your pictures with the cargo box, you are doubling the distance from the closest set of bolts to the center of gravity of the box. This means to have the same moment or torque, you'd need to halve your weight.

[AIMWO4]

It's a cargo box. The weight won't change no matter how far it is from the closest set of bolts. I believe statics deals more with force. This would apply to the stability of the weight as it protrudes further from where it meets the supporting structure. Weight remains a constant.

Loosely, the 200 LB tongue weight is based on 10% of the weight of a 2000 LB trailer resting on the hitch. This is the max recommended in order to provide for a level ride. If I were to place a scale under the weight carrying portion of the hitch, it would not change no matter how far the box extended from the vehicle. But the force at the pivot point would increase.

Now I only work with satellites... so I could be off... I don't deal much with gravity. (nana)

1 post. tsk tsk

It's been 25 years since I took statics in engineering school, but I would assume that is 200 lb tongue capacity as where the ball of the hitch would normally be. So that is:

200lb x whatever the distance from the ball to the closest set of bolts worth of torque.

From what I can tell from your pictures with the cargo box, you are doubling the distance from the closest set of bolts to the center of gravity of the box. This means to have the same moment or torque, you'd need to halve your weight.

[mazdaspeedster3]

Just go the roof rack route if you plan to load that sucker up. If you are just thinking bikes and skis I wouldnt worry about the hitch and go whatever way works best. I have roof racks on both cars and would love to switch over to hitch racks, better aerodynamics.

[mrbaumer]

Loosely, the 200 LB tongue weight is based on 10% of the weight of a 2000 LB trailer resting on the hitch. This is the max recommended in order to provide for a level ride. If I were to place a scale under the weight carrying portion of the hitch, it would not change no matter how far the box extended from the vehicle. But the force at the pivot point would increase.


If this is the case, then a four-bike rack shouldn't be a problem with a class I hitch, since the total weight would be unlikely to reach 200 lbs. However, Softride, Thule, Yakima, etc. etc. all state pretty clearly that four-bike hitch racks are only for class II hitches and above. They must have some reason for saying that -- why exclude class I hitches if you could sell more racks?

That being said, I'd love to hear from anyone who's actually carried four bikes on the back of a Mazda5. Just got mine, and I'm disappointed to learn that my plan of installing a Softride to carry the family bikes may not work... Rather not incur the gas mileage penalty and expense of a roof rack.

[remarquian]

Loosely, the 200 LB tongue weight is based on 10% of the weight of a 2000 LB trailer resting on the hitch. This is the max recommended in order to provide for a level ride. If I were to place a scale under the weight carrying portion of the hitch, it would not change no matter how far the box extended from the vehicle. But the force at the pivot point would increase.

But force at the pivot point IS the point.

A 200lb tongue is different than a 200lb cargo box. The 200lb tongue weight is straight down on the ball of the hitch. The hitch acts like a lever on the bolts, and in conjunction with the car on the wheels. When you add the cargo box, you rigidly attach it to the receiver, extending the lever by a foot or so. This is why as you extend the lever out, you need to drop weight to keep the forces on the wheels and bolts the same.

http://www.math.nyu.edu/~crorres/Archimedes/Lever/Lever.jpg

Archimedes said about the lever:
"Give me a place to stand and I will move the Earth."

[OldGreyMike]

I was not amused to find that there wasn't a ready-made fit kit for my old Thule setup with easy-on/easy-off Tracker II foot pack, 58" load bars, and kayak stacker that has worked so well for me with multiple Dodge minivans over the years.

I looked at all the alternatives, and could not find anything nearly as good with lockable-pushbutton ease of removal comparable to what I already had. So, with a little creative engineering I adapted the ~$69 USD 3069 fit kit for use with the TK-1/Tracker II foot pack combo, and I'm back in business.

Was delighted to find that I only had to narrow the placement of the feet on the bar by 1" total for the M5. And yes, the bars have enough clearance allow the moonroof to open with no problem.

Will post pics of the result when I get a minute.

[rweatherford]

Now I only work with satellites... so I could be off... I don't deal much with gravity. (nana)

1 post. tsk tsk


Might want to pay attention to gravity while here on earth.....


Definately matters if the load extends rearward further than a normal hitch ball. Changes the designed load spec.

[mazdaspeedster3]

I was not amused to find that there wasn't a ready-made fit kit for my old Thule setup with easy-on/easy-off Tracker II foot pack, 58" load bars, and kayak stacker that has worked so well for me with multiple Dodge minivans over the years.

I looked at all the alternatives, and could not find anything nearly as good with lockable-pushbutton ease of removal comparable to what I already had. So, with a little creative engineering I adapted the ~$69 USD 3069 fit kit for use with the TK-1/Tracker II foot pack combo, and I'm back in business.

Was delighted to find that I only had to narrow the placement of the feet on the bar by 1" total for the M5. And yes, the bars have enough clearance allow the moonroof to open with no problem.

Will post pics of the result when I get a minute.



post up some pics, Would love to see what you worked out!

[OldGreyMike]

OK, here are the pix showing a little detail. What you can't really see is that the Thule TK-1 adapter is also bolted to a fabricated steel plate that sits on top of the rubber 3069 fit kit, and the single bolt that comes up from the roof passes through rubber foot, the steel plate, and the TK-1 at the top.

As to water, I ran a little experiment running some water down the hole left with the little plastic cover removed from the roof trim, and no worries. It's designed so that any water that gets in there runs down the inside of the track, through a channel along the side of the windshield, and down the vent drain to the pavement beneath the car. Try it out and you will see what I mean.

Thinking about using the towing eye as a tiedown in the front for extra safety along with tiedown to the back tow loops, but never used any tiedowns before with my old setup. But, there were at least 10 more bolts (with the rails) holding the rack on the roof on my old Caravans. Four bolts total doesn't seem like a lot...

[red headz]

But, there were at least 10 more bolts (with the rails) holding the rack on the roof on my old Caravans. Four bolts total doesn't seem like a lot...

I couldn't agree more.

And regarding the sunroof opening - seems like everyone can open their sunroof w/o hitting the bars, it's all the attachments (boxes, bike trays & skis...) that seem to hit or just nick the sunroof when it's wide open.

With our Yakima rack and Rocketbox, if we open the sunroof wide open, we are within millimeters of clearance between Rocketbox and back side of sunroof. Now that said, it's noisy as a 747 pushing all that air around and we normally just 'tilt' the roof with the rack in place.

[OldGreyMike]

No problem with kayaks on, moonroof doesn't hit them in my case. But as you say, the noise is really loud, so I wouldn't recommend keeping it open!

BTW, I did wind up using the tiedown eyebolt in the front, and strapped the kayaks both fore and aft. I suggest carefully removing and detaching the plastic cover where the eyebolt screws in, so that it doesn't flap around while you are underway. It does come off easily without damage if you take a moment to see how it is attached and work carefully.

[timur]

FYI, Amazon is having a 20% sale and free shipping on Thule racks. I just bought a 669ES for my 2006 Mazda 5. I'll let you guys know how it works.

[mazdaspeedster3]

OK, here are the pix showing a little detail. What you can't really see is that the Thule TK-1 adapter is also bolted to a fabricated steel plate that sits on top of the rubber 3069 fit kit, and the single bolt that comes up from the roof passes through rubber foot, the steel plate, and the TK-1 at the top.

As to water, I ran a little experiment running some water down the hole left with the little plastic cover removed from the roof trim, and no worries. It's designed so that any water that gets in there runs down the inside of the track, through a channel along the side of the windshield, and down the vent drain to the pavement beneath the car. Try it out and you will see what I mean.

Thinking about using the towing eye as a tiedown in the front for extra safety along with tiedown to the back tow loops, but never used any tiedowns before with my old setup. But, there were at least 10 more bolts (with the rails) holding the rack on the roof on my old Caravans. Four bolts total doesn't seem like a lot...


Wow, rack looks great man. I have a problem with the bike holders on our rack and opening the sun roof, it will hit the bike holders and stop you from opening it any further.

[AIMWO4]

The pivot point is the rear axle of the vehicle. I'm sure that if I stuck the 200 pounds out far enough from the back of the car... the front wheels would eventually come off the ground. (hand) I think we are just missing each others points. LOL I'm hoping they designed the box with a 150-pound limit in order to allow for the fact that it does extend further behind the point at which the ball would be. I hope.

But force at the pivot point IS the point.

A 200lb tongue is different than a 200lb cargo box. The 200lb tongue weight is straight down on the ball of the hitch. The hitch acts like a lever on the bolts, and in conjunction with the car on the wheels. When you add the cargo box, you rigidly attach it to the receiver, extending the lever by a foot or so. This is why as you extend the lever out, you need to drop weight to keep the forces on the wheels and bolts the same.

http://www.math.nyu.edu/~crorres/Archimedes/Lever/Lever.jpg

Archimedes said about the lever:
"Give me a place to stand and I will move the Earth."

[AIMWO4]

What they should do, is come up with a load-bearing capacity for the rack itself, and a max. recommended extension from the hitch.

I wouldn't put 4 bikes on a class I hitch, unless they were all racing bikes. Like Remarq explains, stress on the hitch itself is probably the issue with a non-trailer load. Maybe a small bike trailer is in order!

If this is the case, then a four-bike rack shouldn't be a problem with a class I hitch, since the total weight would be unlikely to reach 200 lbs. However, Softride, Thule, Yakima, etc. etc. all state pretty clearly that four-bike hitch racks are only for class II hitches and above. They must have some reason for saying that -- why exclude class I hitches if you could sell more racks?

That being said, I'd love to hear from anyone who's actually carried four bikes on the back of a Mazda5. Just got mine, and I'm disappointed to learn that my plan of installing a Softride to carry the family bikes may not work... Rather not incur the gas mileage penalty and expense of a roof rack.

[mazdaspeedster3]

I have had 4 bikes on top of my 5 with no problem. I have also had a loaded Thule box and 2 bikes up there with no problems either. I would love to do a hitch rack for my skis and day trips in winter but oh well, roof rack works fine.

[professorhank]

FYI, couldn't find anything in this forum about this so I thought I'd share it in case anyone missed it...



NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID: 09E011000

Mfg's Report Date: MAR 31, 2009

Component: EQUIPMENT

Potential Number Of Units Affected: 2323

Summary: THULE, INC. IS RECALLING 2,323 OWNER-INSTALLED ROOF-MOUNTED FIT KITS, MODELS 3068 AND 3069, MANUFACTURED BETWEEN JANUARY 1, 2008 AND FEBRUARY 28, 2009 THAT ARE USED WITH THULE PODIUM FOOT PACKS, MODELS 460 AND 460R. THESE FIT KITS WERE SOLD AS AFTERMARKET EQUIPMENT FOR USE ON THE VEHICLES LISTED ABOVE. THE BOLT(S) USED TO SECURE THE FOOT TO THE VEHICLE WAS MANUFACTURED TO A HARDNESS THAT MAY CAUSE THE BOLT(S) TO BE BRITTLE AND POTENTIALLY BREAK UNDER STRESS.

Consequence: THIS MAY RESULT IN THE BOLT(S) SNAPPING OFF DURING USE OR WITHOUT A LOAD. THE UNSECURED RACK AND LOAD CAN THEN COME LOOSE WHILE DRIVING CREATING A POTENTIAL ROAD HAZARD, POSSIBLY RESULTING IN A VEHICLE CRASH.

Remedy: THULE WILL MAIL A RETRO FIT KIT ALONG WITH REPAIR INSTRUCTIONS TO OWNERS FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OR BEFORE APRIL 13, 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT THULE TOLL-FREE AT 1-800-238-2388.

Notes: THIS RECALL ONLY PERTAINS TO THULE AFTERMARKET ROOF MOUNTED LOAD CARRIERS AND HAS NO RELATION TO ANY ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT INSTALLED ON THE LISTED PASSENGER VEHICLES. OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .

[Distinct]

FYI, couldn't find anything in this forum about this so I thought I'd share it in case anyone missed it...

Just called them up and ordered the replacement. Thank you very much for sharing. I appreciate it.

[delsherif]

Here is a slightly different approach on a roof rack for my 2008 Mazda5. Using an aftermarket aluminum GARAGE-Pro Polaris Roof Basket from JC Whitney, 47”x 40”, I fabricated some custom crossbar/brackets using flat extruded 3/16” x 2-1/2" 6061-T6511 aluminum with rubber pads that fasten directly to the -4- fixed roof points with grade 8 bolts. The bracket and pads carefully clear and do not make contact with any paint, a very clean setup that looks like it could be a factory install. My first attempt the basket was about 7.5” above the roof line, enough to fully open the sunroof, but the basket sat so high it looked very much out of place. The basket now stands about 4.5” above the roof line, enough to fully ‘pop’ the sunroof up, but not slide it open. The entire rack is light enough one person can install and remove it.

The basket cargo area is about 3’ by 3’ and is just the right size to hold our Axius Roof Top Cargo carrier soft bag for about 15 cubic foot of cargo volume on top.
We had a chance to try it out over the 4th of July loaded with 4 duffle bags, three sleeping bags and three collapsing beach chairs – about 100 lbs of stuff. It handled well with little buffet or sway in high wind desert passes, and the wind noise was barely audible over the car wind noise with the sunroof door closed at freeway speeds. With the basket empty, there is a light high pitch whistle, so it is not great for a permanent install unless you like your music turned up above a normal conversation level.
Another trip we were able to stuff 3 roller style hard airline carry on sized bags, a soft duffle bag, a couple of backpacks, one sleeping bag and a pillow. This held essentially all the luggage for 6 passengers for a 5 day trip leaving the cabin free for comfortable seating without clutter. All in all, very useful $200 spent and about a weekend’s worth of fab time.

[mazdaspeedster3]

That is interesting looking enough. Seems functional!

[AwaKeN]

That looks funny hehe

[red headz]

Wow. I like it.

[wmzda5]

Hey Delsherif,

I saw the mud guards on your car . nice what is it?

[OldGreyMike]

Yeah, where'd you get them spiffy mudguards? I see you have them WITH the extended sills and on both front & rear - please post details of how this came to be!

[red headz]

FYI -

When you are carrying a bike, 9ft is the clearance needed through tunnels, drive-thru's, and other low clearance disasters.

michael.

[fdsailor]

Hello all,

My wife and I have researched cars, and decided that, unlike most Americans it seems do not want the standard large mini-van, as it drives like something "big", and none have standards, which is something we have enjoyed for years. We also like the idea of keeping the base car small, and adding capacity on the odd times you need extra storage....

Which brings up roof rails. I have read a number of forums on this topic, and before I give up in desperation, thought I would ask my specific question. We don't want roof RACKS, we want rails, which are parallel to the car axis (now have a Subaru legacy). These we use as lashing points for a soft-sided cargo carrier. I would ideally like rails (don't care who makes them) that attach to the standard attachment points, but am not totally precluding rails that could be permanently installed. Any ideas / suggestions?

Thanks,
Chuck

[fdsailor]

Has anyone had an experience with installing the perrycraft roof rails on a M5? These do not use the manufacturer holes, but the styling seems pretty reasonable... just wondering if anyone has done it. I think the model of choice would be the AVXX58-B. Here are several links:

http://www.perrycraft.com/roof_racks/Aventura.htm

http://www.buyautotruckaccessories.com/product.cfm/cf-bin/pn.perrycraft-aventura-roof-rails/doapps.1/#apps

[fdsailor]

Excuse the cross post, but as this is the most active thread on this topic....

Has anyone had an experience with installing the perrycraft roof rails on a M5? These do not use the manufacturer holes, but the styling seems pretty reasonable... just wondering if anyone has done it. I think the model of choice would be the AVXX58-B. Here are several links:

http://www.perrycraft.com/roof_racks/Aventura.htm

http://www.buyautotruckaccessories.com/product.cfm/cf-bin/pn.perrycraft-aventura-roof-rails/doapps.1/#apps

Thanks,
Chuck

[mazdaspeedster3]

Sorry but I am not willing to drill into my roof to fit that rack.

[coolmazda5]

Excuse the cross post, but as this is the most active thread on this topic....

Has anyone had an experience with installing the perrycraft roof rails on a M5? These do not use the manufacturer holes, but the styling seems pretty reasonable... just wondering if anyone has done it. I think the model of choice would be the AVXX58-B.

They look good and have no clue about them but before drilling the roof I'd consider checking for safety.

The OEM base screws' are on that weird position because they are also attached to the car frame. not just the roof sheet. That has to do with the weight/aerodynamics, etc. In other words, they might be in an awkward position, but for a reason.

If the holes are just plainly drilled on the roof metal sheet and you load the racks with stuff and start driving at 65mph, the roof could literally just rip...

My 2 pesos, just in case the sales guys have no clue (which we have seen before in this forum)

[DKaz]

Grrr I missed a chance to pick up a used Mazda 5 roofrack for $200. :( The thing sold right away.

[fdsailor]

Today I talked to a professional installer, who talked me out of installing a Perrycraft, or any other type of rack on the M5. He was being safe and conservative, but here were his points:

Perrycraft bars are solid, but the M5 roof metal itself is not - it is designed to crumple, etc, and the simple perrycraft bolt and backing was insufficient - upforce on an attached rack has caused them to rip out before.
He said a larger, more robust backing plate would help, but for liability reasons his business would not do ANY modifications, or they could be held liable
Suggest that people not try to do it themselves, or if they are crazy enough to try, to watch out for the side curtain airbags which are probably in the roof area.


With those things considered, I am officially scared off. For roof rack purposes, I will go back to Yakama towers. I may work out something custom by myself just to tie down (using the Mazda attachment points) my soft rooftop carrier, once I know the dimensions, etc. That can't be too hard to work out.

[coolmazda5]

Good to know, yeah, the OEM or Yakima might not be the sexiest around, but they do their job :D