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Brad-MSP
02-09-2009, 01:49 AM
A.E.M. Cold Air Intake
E.C.U. Re-flash
Blow-Off Valve
Front Mount Intercooler
Hard Pipes
NX-Express Intercooler Nitrous
Relocated MAF
Custom Catless Exhaust
10psi

orng1
02-09-2009, 02:14 AM
NR performance, 0 psi...(sad2)

LASERBLUE135
02-09-2009, 03:32 AM
WINTER SETUP Currently 10psi with...
-3" TBE full custom
-fmic w/hardpipes, custom pipes corksport core (recirc stock bpv w/bov combo)
-unichip w/no boost controller
-injen converted to SRI
-never flashed
-stock crappy tune on unichip
-MAF is in normal location
I'm getting 10psi with ATP wga only

Last summer: 11psi with...
all above + MBC turned all the way down

Also tried unichip EBC and that did 8+psi with stock wga on low boost
and 13+psi with stock wga on high boost

This summer I'm going to probably put back on the MBC and try to stay at a little over 10psi

NOTE: this is with a POS stewart warner 15psi boost gauge which I can't say I trust 100%, but its probably really close to accurate.

car currently has 108,500 miles and runs beautifully daily driven (hard)

Brad-MSP
02-09-2009, 03:53 AM
Nice do you ever have any problems out of your car???

Zack
02-09-2009, 04:10 AM
sls catted midpipe
thermal catback
injen intake
unichip
stock boost-6.5/7

LASERBLUE135
02-09-2009, 04:48 AM
Nice do you ever have any problems out of your car???

I've had issues with fuel cut. All depending on the weather. Fuel cut with the new ATP wga is really good, won't hit cut unless it is below zero at full boost.

before I fixed the wga (the stock one was broken):
with the unichip at high boost (13+) I would hit fuel cut at anything below 50 degrees and it would hit fuel cut at any psi in freezing temps.

I got the wga fixed at the end of last summer and fuel cut has disappeared this winter. I'll see if it comes up this summer when I start pushing a little more boost, but really the car has run amazing. I've had it since new and its been a great running car.

basically the fuel cut does what its supposed to do.

SeR_Cyclops
02-09-2009, 06:42 PM
Front MM
Rear MM
MAM intercooler pipes
Corksport intercooler core
B&M SS
AEM short ram intake
Corksport J pipe
Corksport S pipe (not installed)
505Zoom intake manifold (Deposit paid)
Greddy TT
SS AFC
2.5 Custom midpipe
QTP Electric cutout
Autometer C2 Boost gauge
AEM wideband
ATP WGA
stock boost for now. after i get the intake manifold i plan to get an boostscience MBC and run 9psi.

haze20
02-09-2009, 06:46 PM
AWR MM
Vibrant exhaust
10psi for 80k with no problems

JCell
02-09-2009, 06:54 PM
7.5 PSI, No spikes
ATP Wastegate
Custom J Pipe
Custom Corksport exhaust with upgraded resonator and vibrant muffler
Custom intake
Corksport S Pipe
Perrin FMIC with HKS Bov and Blow-through-Maf
Removed VTCS
MSN intake manifold spacer
Denso IK22 Sparkplugs
Front MM and all 3 inserts from AWR
All pipes are ceramic coated

Thats all i can think of for now, puting down close to 200 WHP

speedracer
02-09-2009, 07:00 PM
Corksport power series exhaust
w/catless mid pipe
SLS front MM
Injen CAI
CustomMSP SMIC
custom SS cold pipe
Samco "blue" hot pipe
Bailey's Motorsports BPV
ECU re-flash
UniChip PnP
innovate wideband
@ 7 PSI ... for now

Brad-MSP
02-09-2009, 09:12 PM
I've had issues with fuel cut. All depending on the weather. Fuel cut with the new ATP wga is really good, won't hit cut unless it is below zero at full boost.

before I fixed the wga (the stock one was broken):
with the unichip at high boost (13+) I would hit fuel cut at anything below 50 degrees and it would hit fuel cut at any psi in freezing temps.

I got the wga fixed at the end of last summer and fuel cut has disappeared this winter. I'll see if it comes up this summer when I start pushing a little more boost, but really the car has run amazing. I've had it since new and its been a great running car.

basically the fuel cut does what its supposed to do.

Do you Hit 10psi with the atp wga I just ordered one?

zuku26
02-09-2009, 09:26 PM
GT28RS
Split Second V2 (riding shotgun till installed)
MAM FMIC Hardpipes
CX Racing FMIC
SSQV (knock-off) soon to be the real deal
Relocated MAF to Cold pipe
Forge WGA set at 6 PSI (will be up'd to 8 when we get the SS installed)
ApexR1 Catless midpipe
AWR motor mounts 88 durameter
Magnum Cross drilled Rotors on all four corners
Hawk HPS Pads all on all four corners
Corksport Aluminum Radiator
Flex-a-lite bilateral Slim line fans

speed1016
02-09-2009, 09:31 PM
Injen SRI
spec clutch/ 7lbs flywheel
awr front/rear MM
thunder VS1 exhaust mani
protege garage intake mani
SS AFC (untuned)
pauter rods/wiseco pistons
corksport catless exhaust
twm short shifter
dsm hardpipes
turbohoses smic
10 psi most the time some time 12
think thats all

dstmsp03
02-09-2009, 09:38 PM
wow.... some nice sounding mods going in here.. i wont relist.. just read my sig.. :)

FLAMSP
02-09-2009, 10:31 PM
dstmsp03 have you put your car on a dyno, for numbers?

coperspeed
02-09-2009, 11:10 PM
My mod list 2008..

- Cai injen
- AFC split Second V2 (supermap)
- Thunder turbo manifold (not on the car for the dyno run)
- Exhaust Custom 2.5po Mandrel Bend
- Cat High Flow 2.5po
- Résonateur Magnaflow 2.5po
- Axleback Mazdaspeed
- Actuator Forge Motorsports
- BPV Forge Motorsports
- SMIC intercooler
- Hard piping ********** (cold pipe)
- Samco hose (hot pipe)
- Custom Catch can
- 8Psi Daily drive

Mod list 2009

- Jdm cams Intake, exhaust
- Custom cam gears (tripoint copy)
- Intake Manifold 1.8l No VTCS
- Throttle body Oversize
- Magnecor Wires
- S-Pipe and J-pipe Corksport
- 9psi Daily drive
- AFC Tuning on dyno

LASERBLUE135
02-10-2009, 01:48 AM
Do you Hit 10psi with the atp wga I just ordered one?

My stewart warner boost gauge tells me I do. but the gauge is known to be less than 100% accurate. note all the other mods that I have, but yes, it hits 10psi on the gauge and settles to 9.5ish.

most people get around 8psi out of it. (from what I've heard multiple times)

Brad-MSP
02-10-2009, 03:27 AM
My stewart warner boost gauge tells me I do. but the gauge is known to be less than 100% accurate. note all the other mods that I have, but yes, it hits 10psi on the gauge and settles to 9.5ish.

most people get around 8psi out of it. (from what I've heard multiple times)

Did you use a boost controller to reach 10psi or how did you do this?

808MP5
02-10-2009, 03:35 AM
Damn all you guys... making me want to turn up the boost

StealthWyvern
02-10-2009, 03:40 AM
Front AWR Mount
Medevil Trans mount
SU rear mount
Weapon-r Engine damper
Perrin FMIC
Apexi boost guage
drilled slotted rotors
Greddy SP2 catback
Tein springs
teicko blue struts
Greddy RS BOV
Turbo X's BPV
Injec CAI
6.5 Stock boost.

And i think thats it.

Brad-MSP
02-10-2009, 03:42 AM
Damn all you guys... making me want to turn up the boost

Yeah I know that exactly why I started this thread I just wanted to see what people had how much PSI thier running and if they have had any problems. I think 10psi is ok nobody seem to have any issues (knock on wood)

StealthWyvern
02-10-2009, 03:44 AM
Yeah I know that exactly why I started this thread I just wanted to see what people had how much PSI thier running and if they have had any problems. I think 10psi is ok nobody seem to have any issues (knock on wood)

You obviously haven't read the few threads where these cars pop 100% stock have you? Chances are yours wont but some have.

orng1
02-10-2009, 03:44 AM
Go ahead and turn up the boost, it just puts more money in the pockets of people like me that replace these motors for you guys. Be smart about it unless you have plenty of money to give to the guy that repairs the damage. It costs an average of $1500 + to repair the damage of a blown motor. That's if you don't take out the turbo with the block. Oh and the oil return girdles are $450 by itself.

neox.286
02-10-2009, 03:45 AM
CP Pistons (9:1)
Pauter rods
Lightweight crank
Fidanza flywheel
Supertech oversize valves
Supertech dual valvesprings/titanium retainers
Stage 2 cylinder head port/polish/machining
626 intake manifold
Turbolife FMIC
T3/T4 turbocharger (sold, upgrading to a GT3082R soon)
Steedspeed custom turbo manifold
Corksport modified s-pipe
Corksport j-pipe
Quaife LSD
Cryo treated gears
Methanol injection (picking up soon)
Microtech LT-10S standalone
550cc Mopar injectors
Perrin fuel rail


spun bearing -- priceless
lol

StealthWyvern
02-10-2009, 03:46 AM
spun bearing -- priceless
lol

low on oil?

808MP5
02-10-2009, 03:48 AM
hehe im not that dumb...

orng1
02-10-2009, 03:50 AM
hehe im not that dumb...


I don't mind, I could use the money. (drive2)

Brad-MSP
02-10-2009, 03:50 AM
Go ahead and turn up the boost, it just puts more money in the pockets of people like me that replace these motors for you guys. Be smart about it unless you have plenty of money to give to the guy that repairs the damage. It costs an average of $1500 + to repair the damage of a blown motor. That's if you don't take out the turbo with the block. Oh and the oil return girdles are $450 by itself.

Yeah I hear these things and it freaks me out...makes me just want to get rid of the car but it seems to be okay and it been at 10psi for a while

neox.286
02-10-2009, 03:53 AM
low on oil?

lol, nope
stupid me didn't wait for Microtech to send me back my standalone and I ran it at 10psi on the stock tune...hit MASSIVE predetonation a few times and suddenly I hear -knock knock knock knock knock- and thought 'FUCK!' lol

note to anyone building a motor:
do NOT cut corners! they WILL bite you in the ass on the msp >.<

orng1
02-10-2009, 03:57 AM
I will say that if you keep the oil fresh and the boost low it may last for ever. I change my oil before 2k miles and I beat the living hell out of the motor every chance I get. I knock on the rev limiter every shift, I have not had an air filter on the car for about 20k miles and running it at 10-13psi on a stock tune right now. I can't get it to die! (uhm) I don't get what it is but mine wont die. I killed the coils on it right now but as soon as I start driving it again I'm not going to change the oil and see if it'll die.

808MP5
02-10-2009, 03:57 AM
-Garret GT3076RS Turbo Ceramic Coated
-Tial 38mm Wastegate
-Custom Intercooler w/pipes
-SPOOL Ceramic Coated Turbo Manifold
-Custom Downpipe
-TurboXS Type-H RFL Blow Off Valve
*Shane Racing Cam Gears(uninstalled and for sale)
-Shane Racing Light Weight Crank Pully
-JDM Mazdaspeed Intake Cam Shaft
-JDM Mazdaspeed Exhaust Cam Shaft
-Indigo Light Weight Alternator Pully
-Indigo Light Weight Water Pump Pully
-SLS Front Motor Mount
-SLS Passenger Side Motor Mount
-AWR Rear Motor Mount
-Street Unit Driver Side Motor Mount
-626 Intake Manifold
-Bored Throttle Body
*Fujita Intake Air Filter(uninstalled and for sale)
-Injen Hydroshield
*DGM Carbon Fiber Engine Cover(for sale)
-Custom Polished Aluminum Radiator Brackets
-NRG Carbon Fiber Hood Dampners
5.61 PSI w/spikes upto 8

StealthWyvern
02-10-2009, 04:00 AM
Go ahead and turn up the boost, it just puts more money in the pockets of people like me that replace these motors for you guys. Be smart about it unless you have plenty of money to give to the guy that repairs the damage. It costs an average of $1500 + to repair the damage of a blown motor. That's if you don't take out the turbo with the block. Oh and the oil return girdles are $450 by itself.


I will say that if you keep the oil fresh and the boost low it may last for ever. I change my oil before 2k miles and I beat the living hell out of the motor every chance I get. I knock on the rev limiter every shift, I have not had an air filter on the car for about 20k miles and running it at 10-13psi on a stock tune right now. I can't get it to die! (uhm) I don't get what it is but mine wont die. I killed the coils on it right now but as soon as I start driving it again I'm not going to change the oil and see if it'll die.


Beings that you seem to have money to spare mind sending some my way? lol Maybe then i can get that exhuast mani that i have been wanting.

orng1
02-10-2009, 04:04 AM
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh91/robert320i/Turboenginebay002.jpg No filter and it wont die... and here all these people are being extra carefull and they don't last. I have to say it's the maintenance that the motor received up until that point that I went with the huge turbo and always having clean oil.

orng1
02-10-2009, 04:06 AM
Oh yeah and I haven't had fans on it in a while. The only time it did start to have a heating issue was when I drove it through the grapevine in the summer for mazdafest. But as soon as I got over the grade it cooled down and drove fine.

orng1
02-10-2009, 04:10 AM
Beings that you seem to have money to spare mind sending some my way? lol Maybe then i can get that exhuast mani that i have been wanting.

It's not that I have a lot of money, I have been planning to go big for a long time. I can't get over it to replace a good working motor so I decided to wait it out. But for some odd reason it wont blow, as I see all these close to stock MSP's blow up around me. I don't get why but like I said I always over maintenained it before.

808MP5
02-10-2009, 04:11 AM
no filter = fail

StealthWyvern
02-10-2009, 04:15 AM
It's not that I have a lot of money, I have been planning to go big for a long time. I can't get over it to replace a good working motor so I decided to wait it out. But for some odd reason it wont blow, as I see all these close to stock MSP's blow up around me. I don't get why but like I said I always over maintenained it before.

I was just giving you a hard time thats all. Does that CEL that you have annoy the crap out of you?

orng1
02-10-2009, 04:16 AM
no filter = fail

I know it should but hasn't yet. I keep saying I don't get it. I drive the car through anything, rain, summer, dust storms, the only thing that scares me is plastic bags. I'm scared to get a bag stuck to my exhaust.

orng1
02-10-2009, 04:18 AM
I was just giving you a hard time thats all. Does that CEL that you have annoy the crap out of you?

I don't pay attention to it. EGR insuficient lift, lean bank 1 sensor 2.

StealthWyvern
02-10-2009, 04:23 AM
I don't pay attention to it. EGR insuficient lift, lean bank 1 sensor 2.

Obviously not. lol How do you know if you have a new CEL or not? Do you check it every so often or something?

neox.286
02-10-2009, 04:25 AM
I don't think he cares lol

he's just waiting for the motor to fail so he can drop in his forged motor haha

orng1
02-10-2009, 04:26 AM
I check it pretty frequently to be sure that it's not something else. I don't have the EGR hooked up as you can see from the picture so I get that code. I usually have my scanner plugged in as I drive, it gives way more info that I'd need like 15 gauges to see.

Brad-MSP
02-10-2009, 04:29 AM
oh yeah got a question for any one that can answer it The car will not boost as much with a tiny muffler correct???

neox.286
02-10-2009, 04:30 AM
it'll boost plenty with a tiny muffler

with a tiny s-pipe, j-pipe, or mid-pipe no it won't boost as much....get an sls midpipe/j-pipe (Catless) and you'll notice a new psi or two

orng1
02-10-2009, 04:33 AM
You can boost with a tiny muffler but you are keeping a lot of heat trapped in the exhaust and a lot of back presure that creates heat. Heat is bad as it will lower the pre ignition threshold and more easily blow your motor.

neox.286
02-10-2009, 04:37 AM
well yea, but I've had the stock cat back, upgraded cat backs, and no cat back.....none ever affected the amount of boost levels the stock turbo kicked out

only the midpipe, jpipe, and spipe affected that

Brad-MSP
02-10-2009, 04:38 AM
Okay beacuse for a while now i have had a really tiny muffler on it and my wga was messed up and i didnt know it.... I got my boost gauge fixed and i was boosting only like 10 sometimes 11psi i thought this was weird because most people said they boost like 15psi well today i got my exhaust fixed just started running the down pipe with a turn down after the flex pipe as i was driving i was noticing that i was boosting almost 14psi so i quickly slowed down i ordered my atp wastegate actuator.... Could this tiny muffler be the reason my car has not blown the past couple of months that i have been driving it like this???

orng1
02-10-2009, 04:40 AM
I think it was you paying attention that it wouldn't go to far over that it didn't blow.

Brad-MSP
02-10-2009, 04:42 AM
no prior to today i had givin the car pure hell i tried to see what i can boost redlined and everything i only hit 11 untill today

neox.286
02-10-2009, 04:44 AM
yea replace your wastegate and drop the boost to 6psi ASAP

I'm surprised the ecu didn't freak out on you

Brad-MSP
02-10-2009, 04:45 AM
yea replace your wastegate and drop the boost to 6psi ASAP

I'm surprised the ecu didn't freak out on you

Define freak out it did jerk alot

orng1
02-10-2009, 04:45 AM
The backpresure from that restrictive exhaust helped close the actuator.

orng1
02-10-2009, 04:45 AM
Define freak out it did jerk alot

Fuel cut

Brad-MSP
02-10-2009, 04:48 AM
The backpresure from that restrictive exhaust helped close the actuator.

mmmmm... nice to know my atp wga should be in this weekend ill replace it i may turn the boost up to 8 or 9psi but i have to drive the car to college and back this week ill roughly put 300 miles on it...it should be fine as long as i dont boost right??

orng1
02-10-2009, 04:52 AM
Just try to keep your right foot out of it but with the stock turbo it can spool quick and even with you not being on the gas an incline in the road and your boosting quick.

Brad-MSP
02-10-2009, 04:54 AM
shouldnt be on too many inclines ill be on the interstate pretty much the whole way

neox.286
02-10-2009, 04:56 AM
you can boost, just keep it under 10 psi lol

Brad-MSP
02-10-2009, 05:01 AM
lol ill do my best i just really cant afford to blow it up haha

StealthWyvern
02-10-2009, 05:05 AM
lol ill do my best i just really cant afford to blow it up haha

no on really can unless your big money like orng1! (rofl2) im jk btw.

neox.286
02-10-2009, 05:11 AM
lol, or like me....hitch hike and starve everytime the motor blows

WEWT!

orng1
02-10-2009, 05:15 AM
Or just drive your other car like the baller that you are?

StealthWyvern
02-10-2009, 05:16 AM
Or just drive your other car like the baller that you are?

lol I dont know about that.. My other car would drink me out of house and home if I drove it daily 70miles.

orng1
02-10-2009, 05:19 AM
What kind of car is it. I have two work trucks that I drive or if I don't feel like driving something big I'll drive my explorer. I miss my mazda but haven't had time or extra money to fix it. And I'm nervous from all the people on MOCC getting sent to referee.

StealthWyvern
02-10-2009, 05:27 AM
What kind of car is it. I have two work trucks that I drive or if I don't feel like driving something big I'll drive my explorer. I miss my mazda but haven't had time or extra money to fix it. And I'm nervous from all the people on MOCC getting sent to referee.

94 f150, ext cab, long bed, 5L(302), auto, 2wd in dire need of a tune up.

orng1
02-10-2009, 05:31 AM
Do the tune up, I get about 16mpg in my F250 with the 5.4L and it had 250k+ miles on it. I drive it everywhere, 1000 miles a day if I go work out near Texas.

orng1
02-10-2009, 05:32 AM
I know some people that don't get that kind of milleage in their MSPs.

StealthWyvern
02-10-2009, 05:34 AM
Do the tune up, I get about 16mpg in my F250 with the 5.4L and it had 250k+ miles on it. I drive it everywhere, 1000 miles a day if I go work out near Texas.

I will in due time but not in much of a hurry as its my weekend beater. I think it needs a new MAF. Because I was gettign 17 in town and now it acts as if its in tow all the damn time gettign single digits for gas mileage! lol I'll get around to it within the next month or two and redo the entire ingition system ect ect on it. I only put 8k on it in two years so... i dont drive it much.

neox.286
02-10-2009, 05:38 AM
Or just drive your other car like the baller that you are?

lol, totally....I love my DC kicks, they make a great daily driver haha

orng1
02-10-2009, 05:38 AM
Check to see that the connector is cliped in all the way. I had my MAF on the truck come loose and it'd stall, hicup, and get poor milleage. I couldn't ven see that it was loose because the harness was tucked under the air box.

StealthWyvern
02-10-2009, 05:45 AM
lol, totally....I love my DC kicks, they make a great daily driver haha
Hell yeah and they get great gas mileage to boot!



Check to see that the connector is cliped in all the way. I had my MAF on the truck come loose and it'd stall, hicup, and get poor milleage. I couldn't ven see that it was loose because the harness was tucked under the air box.

Checked it! Clean it with MAF cleaner and didn didnt help.

BadBandar
02-10-2009, 07:10 AM
Got all the mods in my sig. Im running 6psi tho. Im alittle scared to push the psi up until i know the motor can handle it. bt one thing i dont have is Hesitation. Afc is probably one of my favorite mods.

Knox Joe
02-10-2009, 09:05 AM
Hi-Boost FMIC
Perrin Exh.
Injen CAI
Snow Methanol Kit
Labonte Methanol Controller
SteedSpeed Manifold
J&S Safeguard
AWR Oil Pan
AWR Mounts
HKS BPV
Spec Stage 2+ Clutch
EBC Brakes
440cc WRX Injectors
Espelir Springs
AEM W/B
Autometer Boost Guage
Espelir Springs
Enkie Rims
Nitto Neo-Gen Tires

Had a Unichip, but removed it yesterday.

Was running 8 lbs, on low boost, then spiking 14lbs, and holding 11lbs on high boost.

I'll be changing the engine management, and I'm working on getting a built shortblock put together. I won't swap it out until I blow the stock stuff, and with the J&S that could be a long time.

MSpeedFreak03
02-10-2009, 12:33 PM
dont have much right now but im building the motor as we speak! the car is all torn apart right now...

AWR motor mounts
JoeP MBC
custom 3" exhaust
ETS SMIC
prosport boost gage
groundmagnet springs

slo03.5msp
02-10-2009, 12:55 PM
cometic head gasket .060
arp head studs
wrx 440cc injectors
custom intake
ion fmic w/ relocated maf
aem tru boost ~12-14lbs atp wga
aem wb
ssafc v2
thunder v2 mani no problems! Jet hot coated
corksport s pipe jet hot coated
apexr1 2.5" s pipe back

323
02-14-2009, 07:21 PM
I will say that if you keep the oil fresh and the boost low it may last for ever. I change my oil before 2k miles and I beat the living hell out of the motor every chance I get. I knock on the rev limiter every shift, I have not had an air filter on the car for about 20k miles and running it at 10-13psi on a stock tune right now. I can't get it to die! (uhm) I don't get what it is but mine wont die. I killed the coils on it right now but as soon as I start driving it again I'm not going to change the oil and see if it'll die.

what! lol

Outlawstar98
02-14-2009, 07:28 PM
ATM not much done for me :(

Turbohoses Hardpipes
Turbohoses SRI

Have Steedspeed mani, and Turbolife FMIC in basement.

I do have more mods that other people posted... But this says Preformance mods.... Gauges and stuff done count Lol,

speedracer
02-14-2009, 11:42 PM
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh91/robert320i/Turboenginebay002.jpg
hahaha nice old school Grainger valve! I still have one of these
from my Daytona Shelby. seeing this I might have to try it on my MSP

neox.286
02-15-2009, 12:03 AM
you must post pictures of your daytona shelby

like...now lol

StealthWyvern
02-15-2009, 12:11 AM
you must post pictures of your daytona shelby

like...now lol

I secound that

speedracer
02-15-2009, 12:20 AM
OK here ya go:
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/familypics266.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/100_0844.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii320/tploeg0529/familypics270.jpg

dstmsp03
02-15-2009, 12:26 AM
dstmsp03 have you put your car on a dyno, for numbers?

damn this thread blew up.. where was i? haha.. no i have never been on a dyno.. i just do mods until i think its fun to drive.. then when i get bored.. i do more.. what does a dyno prove but #s? the real thrill is knowing the work that you put in the car makes you happy when you feel the boost throwing you back in the seat, or comming onto it and not being ready and it gives ya a lil grin.. like.. WOAH.. where did that come from.. haha

neox.286
02-15-2009, 12:37 AM
aww, I was expecting this lol

http://www.carsandtuning.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/shelby-daytona-cobra-coupe-10.jpg

=P

speedracer
02-15-2009, 12:42 AM
aww, I was expecting this lol

http://www.carsandtuning.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/shelby-daytona-cobra-coupe-10.jpg

=P
hahahahaha nope sorry I wish!

neox.286
02-15-2009, 12:49 AM
hahaha, still a nice car though

orng1
02-15-2009, 02:32 AM
I got mine from a Mopar website a long time ago. Dawesdevices.com I think that link still works it just sends you to a diferent site though. Same thing.

Woops no it doesn't work but you can google it and it takes you to all the dodge sites. That guy died a few yrs ago. They work good.

neox.286
02-15-2009, 04:09 AM
what does that valve do?

I've never heard of that kind of valve before

orng1
02-15-2009, 04:24 AM
It's a boost controler.

speedracer
02-15-2009, 11:23 AM
I got mine from a Mopar website a long time ago. Dawesdevices.com I think that link still works it just sends you to a diferent site though. Same thing.

Woops no it doesn't work but you can google it and it takes you to all the dodge sites. That guy died a few yrs ago. They work good.
yup small world!!! thats where I got mine from. that guy had one of the fastest turbo'd vans around. I had chatted with him a couple times back when I was rebuilding my Daytona. He also had a cool A/F meter that worked for the 2.2 turbo II cars.

neox.286
02-15-2009, 06:42 PM
It's a boost controler.

oh hahaha, just had never heard it named that before

Knox Joe
02-15-2009, 08:47 PM
yup small world!!! thats where I got mine from. that guy had one of the fastest turbo'd vans around. I had chatted with him a couple times back when I was rebuilding my Daytona. He also had a cool A/F meter that worked for the 2.2 turbo II cars.

I also had a Shelby Dodge Daytona, an 89'. I useta smoke 4.6 Mustangs in that thing. :)

That is still my biggest mistake. I should have never sold that car. :(

JCell
02-15-2009, 08:51 PM
oh hahaha, just had never heard it named that before

its actually similar to a boost controller but different in one way

a grainer valve will let u hit max psi quicker than simply using a boost controller, which is basically a controlled vacuum leak

23dude
02-16-2009, 04:22 PM
2.5 cat-back exhaust corksport
custom FMIC
custom short ram intake
Greedy Type S BOV
9 psi

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-16-2009, 06:33 PM
Hi fellas, this is my Mod list until today 02-16-2009. Currently boosting 26 PSI on Methanol Injection 474.8whp & 390 lbs torque

1. Honed and polished engine block.
2. Blue printed and balance engine
3. Sandblasted and black powder coated engine block.
4. Crankshaft balanced and polished.
5. Aries custom forged pistons low compression 8.5:1.
6. Pauter forged chromolly rods.
7. Clevite 77 Main bearing set.
8. Clevite 77 Thrust washer set.
9. Clevite 77 Connecting rod bearing.
10. Cometic .078" Custom made thick head gasket. (Lowered engine compression from 8.5:1 to aprox 7.8:1 to run more boost safely)
11. Goodyear timing belt.
12. TBK Performance custom Stage 3 FS-DE head blue printed and balanced.
13. TBK Performance custom turbo dual overhead cams.
14. TBK Performance 5 angle valve job.
15. TBK Performance full head port and polish job.
16. Ferrea 1mm bigger titanium valves & harder valve springs & Titanium Retainers.
17. ARP head studs, ARP washers, ARP nuts.
18. SR adjustable cam gears.
19. ProtegeGarage intake manifold single Runners with TBK Performance port & polish job.
20. TBK Performance port & polish throttle body job to 60mm.
21. Throttle body coolant bypass.
22. Unorthodox ultra light S under drive pulley.
23. Gates high performance engine belts.
24. Apex air diversion plate.
25. Mazda Millennia supercharged PCV valve.
26. Maxspeed magnetic oil drain plug.
27. Corksport Hi Performance 52mm Aluminum Radiator.
28. Spal Slim Line dual 13" Hi Performance Fans.
29. Mazdaspeed 1.3 bar radiator cap.
30. Mazdaspeed JDM B-Spec low temp thermostat.
31. Mazdaspeed gunmetal oil cap.
32. AWR 70a bushings front motor mount.
33. AWR 70a bushings rear motor mount.
34. AWR 70a bushings transmission mount.
35. SLS-Performance Racing Passenger Side Motor Mount.
36. Weapon R engine damper.
37. AEM water/methanol injection kit with 1 gallon tank.
38. Dual Walbo 255 in-tank and in-line fuel pumps.
39. RC 1000cc high impedance injectors.
40. Perrin fuel rail.
41. Haltech E6X stand alone engine management air/fuel, timing, launch control and anti-lag.
42. Haltech 3 bar MAP sensor.
43. Haltech Sequential shift light.
44. HKS Super Sequential V2 blow off valve.
45. HKS earth ground cables system.
46. Mazdaspeed positive charging and voltage stabilizer.
47. AEM 4” inlet cone filter with Injen water repellant pre-filter (blue)
48. Spearco front mount intercooler.
49. TBK Performance custom chrome 3¨ front mount intercooler pipes & flanges.
50. Turbonectics clamps.
51. Hiboost GT35 big turbo manifold + TBK Performance port & polish job.
52. Garrett GT3582R turbo with stainless steel water and oil lines.
53. TBK Performance 3¨custom downpipe.
54. TBK Performance custom 3¨ downpipe back exhaust with 3¨ Resonator.
55. HKS Hi-Power muffler chrome.
56. Tial 40mm external chrome wastegate.
57. NGK Laser Iridium sparkplugs (one step colder).
58. Haltech coil packs.
59. K&N 1008 oil filter.
60. Royal Purple 20w50 fully synthetic engine oil.
61. Lucas synthetic oil stabilizer & protection (new engine formula).

Drivetrain:

62. Complete transmission internals cryo treated.
63. Fidanza 7.5 lbs flywheel.
64. DSS Level-2 drive axles.
65. ACT street performance clutch.
66. ACT extreme pressure plate.
67. Welded LSD front and back of it with cryo treatment.
68. Racing synchronizers with cryo treatment.
69. TBK Performance custom 600whp 3rd, 4th, gears with cryo treatment.
70. Techa-Fit clutch line.
71. Redline shockproof synchromesh heavy-duty transmission synthetic oil.
72. TWM short throw shifter.
73. TWM shifter bushings.
74. CorkSport Bronze Oil Bushings.

Brakes:

72. Brembo cross drilled & slotted rotors.
73. Techa-Fit stainless steel brake lines.
74. Posi-Quiet ceramic low dust brake pads.
75. Royal Purple synthetic brake fluid.

Suspension:

76. TEIN adjustable superstreet coilover suspension
77. GT-Spec front strut tower brace.
78. GT-Spec 4 Point front lower ladder brace.
79. GT-Spec Front lower tie brace.
80. Corksport Pedders Front Suspension Arm Bushing Kit.
81. Racing Beat front lower sway bar.
82. AWR front lower sway bar bushings.
83. AWR adjustable front end links.
84. GT-Spec rear strut tower brace.
85. GT-Spec rear full trunk cage.
86. Racing Beat rear lower sway bar.
87. AWR rear lower sway bar bushings.
88. AWR adjustable rear end links.
89. GT-Spec rear trailing link set.
90. GT-Spec Rear lower reinforcement panel.
91. GT-Spec Rear lower reinforcement V-brace.

Electronics & Interior Accessories:

92. OEM Mazdaspeed classic soft trim 2 tone leather interior dark charcoal with titanium gray + titanium gray leather door panels.

93. Greddy Profec E-01 (silver)
94. Greddy Profec B Spec-II electronic boost controller (silver).
95. Greddy remote switching system steering wheel (silver).
96. Greddy full auto turbo timer (silver).
97. Maxspeed engine start bottom (blue).
98. Auto Meter triple gauge pod (black).
99. AEM Uego 6 in 1 wideband controller (white).
100. Auto Meter C2 Indi glow pyrometer EGT 0-1600 degrees F.
101. Auto Meter C2 Indi glow 30 P.S.I boost/vacuum gauge (white).
102. MRYELLERMP5 custom bezel dual gauge pod.
103. Auto Meter C2 Indi glow oil pressure gauge 0-100 psi (white).
104. Auto Meter C2 Indi glow fuel pressure gauge 0-100 psi (white).
105. Maxspeed cluster Indi glow gauges 7 colors with dimmer (white).
106. DaveB cluster polish rings.
107. Maxspeed chrome cluster bezel.
108. Mazdaspeed seat belts pads.
109. Clifford alarm.
110. Lo-Jack satellite security system.

Audio & Video

111. Kenwood MP919 head unit cd/mp3/Sirius satellite radio/with IPod interface controller.
112. 7" widescreen in dash DVD-player & TV tuner NTSC/PAL.
113. Apple IPod 160GB video.
114. Kenwood PS400M 1400 watts mono amplifier 1 ohm stable.
115. Power Acoustic 3 fared capacitor.
116. Kenwood PS300M 600 watts 3 channel amplifier.
117. Kenwood 8 Band Electronic Equalizer.
118. Kenwood 6 Way Electronic Crossover.
119. Kenwood titanium tweeters (6 tweeters).
120. Cerwin-Vega HD series 4-way front doors speakers.
121. Cerwin-Vega HD series 4 way rear doors speakers.
122. Cerwin-Vega HD Series 4 way 6x9 rear upper deck speakers.
123. Cerwin-Vega V-Max 12¨ dvc subwoofers 400 watts rms (2 12¨ subs).
124. Rockford Fosgate 12¨ dvc subwoofers 600 watts rms (2 12¨subs).

Lighting:

125. Euro black smoked head lights.
126. Bi-XENON head lights kit. 8000k high & low beams.
127. Piaa clear rectangular fog lights.
128. XENON 8000k H3 fog lights kit.
129. Lexus IS350 L.E.D ultra white license plate bulbs.
130. Mazdaspeed carbon fiber license plate frame.

131. OPTX MultiColor L.E.D Undercar KIT by ( StreetGlow )

Wheels & Tires:

132. 2006 Mazda RX-8 shinka edition wheels 18 X 8.
133. Nankang ultra sport NS-II 215/35/18 tires
134. Nitrogen on tires
135. Gorilla chrome wheel nuts.
136. Gorilla chrome wheel locks.

Coming up next mods list:

137. 505zoom Intake Manifold along with Vibrant Vaccum distribution block
138. Spec 6.8 Lbs lightweight aluminum flywheel.

Near Future and final mods list 2009-1010:

139. Rotora 4 piston big brake kit in RED, + Custom Rear Big Brake Kit with E-Brake option as well
140. Quaife LSD differential G-type mazdaspeed protégé.
141. Quaife differential bolt kit mazdaspeed protégé.
142. PAR Engineer DOG BOX Transmission with Straight Cut Gears and Tranny case reinforcement with longer final Gear Ratio
143. AWR Deep sump oil pan protégé.
144. DOC-B Upgraded Hi performance Engine Oil Pump System
145. ProtegeGarage Engine oil cooler
146. Transmission oil cooler
147. Digital tire monitoring system tire pressure/temperature

JCell
02-16-2009, 06:47 PM
thats a really complete mod list


makes mine look like shit lol

justinlansdale
02-16-2009, 06:51 PM
-Injen Cold Air Intake
-TurboXS 50/50 Hybrid H-Type BOV (Fully VT A)
-Turbolife FMIC
-Turbolife Hardpipes
-Hallman Pro MBC
-NGK ZFR-6F Spark Plugs (Gapped 0.20)
-JoeP FCD
-Circuit Sports 2.5" Catless Mid-Pipe
-Greddy Resonator
-2.5" Straight Pipe Exit (No Muffler)

210whp/214wtq @ 7psi, i'm staying where i am for a while haha.

SeR_Cyclops
02-16-2009, 06:53 PM
How did you make that much HP with that few mods?

JCell
02-16-2009, 06:58 PM
im intrigued as well

whats the JoeP FCD?

justinlansdale
02-16-2009, 06:58 PM
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/justinlansdale/dyno1.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/justinlansdale/dyno2.jpg

link to thread:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123723220

justinlansdale
02-16-2009, 06:59 PM
im intrigued as well

whats the JoeP FCD?

fuel cut defender.

Outlawstar98
02-16-2009, 08:09 PM
How did you make that much HP with that few mods?

What Justin would say is "The Turbolife works magic"

Well maybe in different words haha

sprinter119
02-16-2009, 08:12 PM
Gots a Mazdaspeed P5 but will post anyway

Engine:
MSP turbo setup
ION FMIC
Light weight pullies
2.5 Catless exhaust
SS AFC
6 PSI

can only hope im putting down more than 140hp havent dynoed yet

Speed3.5
02-16-2009, 09:36 PM
-Garret GT3076RS Turbo Ceramic Coated
-Tial 38mm Wastegate
-Custom Intercooler w/pipes
-SPOOL Ceramic Coated Turbo Manifold
-Custom Downpipe
-TurboXS Type-H RFL Blow Off Valve
*Shane Racing Cam Gears(uninstalled and for sale)
-Shane Racing Light Weight Crank Pully
-JDM Mazdaspeed Intake Cam Shaft
-JDM Mazdaspeed Exhaust Cam Shaft
-Indigo Light Weight Alternator Pully
-Indigo Light Weight Water Pump Pully
-SLS Front Motor Mount
-SLS Passenger Side Motor Mount
-AWR Rear Motor Mount
-Street Unit Driver Side Motor Mount
-626 Intake Manifold
-Bored Throttle Body
*Fujita Intake Air Filter(uninstalled and for sale)
-Injen Hydroshield
*DGM Carbon Fiber Engine Cover(for sale)
-Custom Polished Aluminum Radiator Brackets
-NRG Carbon Fiber Hood Dampners
5.61 PSI w/spikes upto 8

Hey , about : GT3076RS
1- what AR is it ?
2- When does it start boosting ?

BTW - how you like JDM cam's and you think they perfect match w/ GT30R ?

LASERBLUE135
02-16-2009, 09:59 PM
Justindale is a factory freak, and I'm jelous!

FunkyBuddha
02-19-2009, 05:49 PM
IOn fmic kit
Greddy RS bov
MAF relocated
Turbosmart MBC
stock WGA
AFC
AEM wideband
Prosport boost and oil pressure
SLS 2.5" midpipe with high flow cat
9 psi

as of next week

new WGA and new GT25 turbo
boost..= ...i dunno...hopefully below 10

kz9
02-19-2009, 06:10 PM
Hi fellas, this is my Mod list until today 02-16-2009. Currently boosting 26 PSI on Methanol Injection 474.8whp & 390 lbs torque
12. TBK Performance custom Stage 3 FS-DE head blue printed and balanced.


How do you balance a head?(uhm)

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-19-2009, 06:14 PM
How do you balance a head?(uhm)

Ask TBK Performance bro. they have blue printed and balance the engine to rev higher. that´s all i know

neox.286
02-19-2009, 06:15 PM
you could make sure that all the moving parts are equally balanced...though I think he just meant blueprinted

neox.286
02-19-2009, 06:15 PM
Ask TBK Performance bro. they have blue printed and balance the engine to rev higher. that´s all i know

engine and head are two different things =P

SeR_Cyclops
02-19-2009, 06:15 PM
lol dont you know the head is connected to the wobbling shaft so if its not square it will cause your tires to shake really bad.

withcheese
02-19-2009, 06:16 PM
Magnaflow catback exhaust
hardpipes
MBC
Short Shifter.
8.5-9 PSI

Plans for the spring:
Altercustoms FMIC
HKS SSQV
AWR motor and tranny mounts
SS AFC
Clunk fix kit
cork sport down pipe

Still going to run it at 8-9 PSI, 10 seems to be the danger level. I might just get a mustang 5.0 with a 5 speed instead of the mods...dont know yet.

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-19-2009, 06:19 PM
you could make sure that all the moving parts are equally balanced...though I think he just meant blueprinted

you got my point Robert Thank you..

kz9
02-19-2009, 06:19 PM
Ask TBK Performance bro. they have blue printed and balance the engine to rev higher. that´s all i know


Ok you must just have meant the engine, but you already posted that so I was a bit confused.

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-19-2009, 06:21 PM
Ok you must just have meant the engine, but you already posted that so I was a bit confused.

sorry bro, i´m fixing 3 computers at the same time at a customers home and is already 11:30 pm here and i´ve been here since 12 pm. fixing, intalling, doing networking. i´m just mad tired..

terbow
02-19-2009, 06:24 PM
Performance Mods: I think thats all of it. That doesnt include suspension or monitoring.

Custom Liquid to Air Intercooler:
(Cobra SVT Heat Exchanger)
(Spearco 2-252 Core)
(Bosch Intercooler pump)
(Custom Aluminum Water Resevoir in trunk. 2.5 Gallon)
(Custom Plumbing (Aeroquip Lines and Fittings))
(Custom Relay and Switch)
GT Spec Strut Bar w/ Powdercoated Brackets (Black)
Aluminum Charge Piping
Aluminum SRI
Forge MS3 Bypass Valve (Custom)
Upgraded Plug Wires
1 Step Colder Plugs
SS AFC V2
ATP 6psi Wastegate that runs 10psi somehow
Mazdaspeed Oil Cap
Black Wrinkle Finish Valve Cover w/ Polished Letters
Corksport Aluminum Radiator
Dual Torq Flo 12" Puller Fans
Corksport Engine Mount Inserts (F&R)
AWR Side Mount Inserts
Kartboy Shifter Bushings
Corksport S Pipe
Corksport J pipe
Corksport Exhaust w/ Cat
Thunder Exhaust Manifold
1sty Grounding Kit

kz9
02-19-2009, 06:26 PM
Nope prob man. You know I like ur ride. I just thought that TBK told you that they balanced your head. You can balance camshafts, not in overhead cam applications tho.

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-19-2009, 06:30 PM
Nope prob man. You know I like ur ride. I just thought that TBK told you that they balanced your head. You can balance camshafts, not in overhead cam applications tho.

Thank you sir. i really like your ride as well, i think is just Insane..

neox.286
02-19-2009, 06:30 PM
you got my point Robert Thank you..

np
hahaha, if I'm ever in spain you're gonna have to let me see this beast in person hahahaha

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-19-2009, 06:33 PM
np
hahaha, if I'm ever in spain you're gonna have to let me see this beast in person hahahaha

I´m not going to let you see it Robert. I´m going to let you Drive it. i´ll pick you up at the airport and after that the car is all yours.. just bring cash for gas... lol lol

neox.286
02-19-2009, 06:41 PM
awesome!
haha, maybe I'll have to plan a trip this summer....been thinking about taking a vaca in europe haha

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-19-2009, 06:47 PM
awesome!
haha, maybe I'll have to plan a trip this summer....been thinking about taking a vaca in europe haha


hahah. if you come here where i live i promise you, you will not want to go back to the States !!!

neox.286
02-19-2009, 06:50 PM
ugh, I already don't want to lol

mike2225
02-19-2009, 08:52 PM
2002 protege es
-Custom Cp pistons 8.5:1 CR
-Oliver Long rods
-Apr head studs
-Cometic low comp. gasket
-SpeedCircuit stage II head
-Custom ground Integral Cams
-Kasman intake cam gear
-DSS stage II axels
-PWR radiator w/ 2 slimline fans
-AWR F&R MM with inserts
-B&M ss
-Fidanza Flywheel
-ACT 6 puck clutch
-Smt-6,Fcd,3 bar map sensor,FM o2 clamp
-J&S knock sensor
-Snow performance water/meth kit
-Krankcase vents
-3" custom mid pipe back exhaust
-(505's SMIM) when its ready
I was running a TSI turbokit using a mpnick upgraded turbo @ 10 psi. I have recently began to sell my turbokit because Im getting the soon to be released SpeedCircuit turbo kit.

HondaEat-R
02-20-2009, 12:52 PM
12 Psi Daily on the Gt25rs

- Pauter Rod & Arias Piston Kit 9:1
- APR Studs
- Cometic head gasket
- PAR fully built transmission, 1st-5th straight cut.
- Perrin FMIC
- 3" Perrin J-Pipe back
- Perrin SRI
- AWR mounts
- Corksport J & S pipes
- Greddy Blue Emanage
- 440cc's
- Perrin MBC
- Greddy TT
- Russel Stainless Brake lines
- Spec Stage 3+ clutch kit
- TurboXS RFL
- AEM Uego Wideband AFR

It can all be yours for $9,000 .....Shameless pitch, I know.

SeR_Cyclops
02-20-2009, 12:56 PM
9,000 for the car?

HondaEat-R
02-20-2009, 01:10 PM
Yessum, It will be official as soon as I pull it out of my fathers garage, and take some pics w/ my little forum sign.

shane02pro5
02-20-2009, 01:16 PM
I will never sell...especially seeing that your mods alone were probably 2x the price of the car without the car!!

New gt3071 will be here monday but for now

-see mods in my sig
+new n/a "0psi mod" with dead turbo!

Ricktalife
02-20-2009, 04:04 PM
+1 on never selling!!!!111

i'm gonna run this bitch into the ground!

HondaEat-R
02-20-2009, 04:09 PM
I like the car, I just want a panda style Evo IIIV, no wing. I need more top end power is the thing, this turbo falls off badly up top. Combine that w/ my tranny set-up and all the thing does is spin the tires...and I hate spinning tires, really. I could be going 40mph, step on it and the thing is loose. I need boost to redline, not just break-neck low to mid power. And also...I'm just too cheap to blow 1,300 on a new larger turbo right now.

CrazyCaker
02-20-2009, 04:20 PM
14 psi, stock internals (have spare built motor waiting lol)

Here's just some mods;

MAM Thumper Kit w/ T3/T4 Turbo
Turbonetics Evolution wastegate
Turbonetics Raptor BOV
3" stainless downpipe
3" intake
2.5" Megan cat-back
2.5" MAM catted mid-pipe
AWR Motor Mounts
IM and TB spacers
UR underdrive crank pulley
Custom 10 pt. grounding kit
550cc injectors
EBay Oil Block adaptor
Derale Combo Tranny (4-pass)/Oil (6-pass) Cooler
Exedy Stage 1 Clutch
Welded MSP LSD
Fidanza 7lbs Flywheel
Microtech LT10S w/ Hand Controller
Medieval Lightened ALT/WP/PS pullies
Greddy Profec B Spec II Boost Controller
Perrin Fuel Rail

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-21-2009, 07:24 AM
I like the car, I just want a panda style Evo IIIV, no wing. I need more top end power is the thing, this turbo falls off badly up top. Combine that w/ my tranny set-up and all the thing does is spin the tires...and I hate spinning tires, really. I could be going 40mph, step on it and the thing is loose. I need boost to redline, not just break-neck low to mid power. And also...I'm just too cheap to blow 1,300 on a new larger turbo right now.

get a GT3582R turbo modified to spool faster and you'll never have problems having power on all power band, low, mid and top end... i raced my friend's Gallardo, and i beat him from 65 to 170 mph, he took me past that for obvious reasons, he have 6 gears tranny with mad top end, also he have a Lambo and i have a Damn protege.. but still i beat him so, you might want to take that into consideration these cars with some money on it are well worth it.. I really don't know what's going on with people sweating so much the Evo's, with all my respect to the owners, they ain't all that shit people thinks.. insurance are more expensive, parts are more expensive, AWD system are heavier and more expensive when they break, i don't know man just my .02 cent's I'll never trade or sell my car to get any evo, don't matter if they have 1000 HP, too many already on the streets, but how many 300,400 or 550 HP protege's have you seen around town ? again just my .02 cents, i like to be rare or unique and not another from the bunch..

HondaEat-R
02-21-2009, 01:04 PM
First of all, your car is all business...especially if you're racing Gallardos, haha. That thing is nice, nice job. The reason I'm "sweating an Evo" is because it's my personal preference as to what I spend my $30,000 on. I like how they look, they're fast right out-of-the-box, good aftermarket support...AWD. That's why, I can't speak for others though.

This protege is a economy family car, sporting a turbo and rims. I want a true enthusiast car. Another good reason is, I don't want this FWD car to have much more power, torque steer is a bitch already. FWD cars were not meant to have power like this. It's great that you want to be away from the "bunch", but If I want a certain car and it happens that many others have that car...I don't care, I'm getting it for me. The same god damn day I registered my MSP, I was out driving to the wash and in 20 minutes I saw 3 other MSP's.....I wanted to freak the fuck out. I see an Evo maybe once a month around here, so speak for yourself about "apart from the bunch".

It's funny how people rag on the type of car another wants. I'm glad you love your 500hp Protege..you kinda have no choice after spending the money you have spent on it...correct ? In my eyes, any year Evo is better looking, and better performing than the MSP. That's enough reason for me but I could go on. Don't get me wrong, I like my MSP etc..but I want something else man..





get a GT3582R turbo modified to spool faster and you'll never have problems having power on all power band, low, mid and top end... i raced my friend's Gallardo, and i beat him from 65 to 170 mph, he took me past that for obvious reasons, he have 6 gears tranny with mad top end, also he have a Lambo and i have a Damn protege.. but still i beat him so, you might want to take that into consideration these cars with some money on it are well worth it.. I really don't know what's going on with people sweating so much the Evo's, with all my respect to the owners, they ain't all that shit people thinks.. insurance are more expensive, parts are more expensive, AWD system are heavier and more expensive when they break, i don't know man just my .02 cent's I'll never trade or sell my car to get any evo, don't matter if they have 1000 HP, too many already on the streets, but how many 300,400 or 550 HP protege's have you seen around town ? again just my .02 cents, i like to be rare or unique and not another from the bunch..

Outlawstar98
02-21-2009, 01:10 PM
HAHAHAHA I NEVER see any MSP, I see EVO's and STi's all the Effin time...

And for autoX'in you will get more Rep, racing in a MSP then a Evo.\

And yes, EVO's look nice, but they break down like a Mofo, I have a friend that traded his in for a Mugan SI, just cause he got tired of the Evo Breaking under any mods he puts on it.

DSM's <3 to break, you will spend more money fixing the evo then fixing a MSP.

HondaEat-R
02-21-2009, 01:19 PM
I couldn't believe it either, and to make it worse I saw a Yellow, Blue, and Titanium.....it was like Bizzaro world. I really rarely see Evos around here, and if I do it's old men driving them. I'm not worried about my auto-X rep, because well, I don't auto-X. I don't think a DSM product is going to break any more than a turbo ford motor in a Mazda suit.. DSM has a long record of producing boosted sport compacts, that we all know. Your last statement is based on nothing but one instance... Your buddy must've really hated the Evo to trade for a Mugen Si, that thing is ricey as rice gets, nice motor though.

Outlawstar98
02-21-2009, 01:21 PM
Nooo man, I owned a DSM b4 this car.... and it kept breaking, ask any car forum on the internet, DSM's break. And those DSM making huge boost, go read up on them, to get to that point they break alot, and when u boost like that, you will end up breaking somehting.

HondaEat-R
02-21-2009, 01:25 PM
Yikes, what did you have ?

Outlawstar98
02-21-2009, 01:29 PM
I owned a Eclipse, and i kept having trans issues, which is common for DSM's.

If you want a great power and AWD, its much better to go with a STi. but before u say "I see them alot" Im talking about a Forester With the STI motor. My one friend has one with stright cut gears and many other mods, and it owns evos easily. And no one really has one :D

HondaEat-R
02-21-2009, 01:58 PM
I owned a Eclipse, and i kept having trans issues, which is common for DSM's.

If you want a great power and AWD, its much better to go with a STi. but before u say "I see them alot" Im talking about a Forester With the STI motor. My one friend has one with stright cut gears and many other mods, and it owns evos easily. And no one really has one :D

Well, I'd like to think that the build quality of an Evo is above the build quality of a 3rd gen Eclipse(assuming). I think almost all professional shootout articles would disagree with the statement that the STI is better. I'm not a fan of the Forester, too granny loooking.

Outlawstar98
02-21-2009, 02:12 PM
Well, I'd like to think that the build quality of an Evo is above the build quality of a 3rd gen Eclipse(assuming). I think almost all professional shootout articles would disagree with the statement that the STI is better. I'm not a fan of the Forester, too granny loooking.

Show me articles.... THEY ARE THE ABOUT SAME. I dont know what your reading man....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioNjbsjAZ8k
On the Top Gear track the Evo8 was only 2 seconds faster then the STI Which isnt much to me.

The Numbers of weight vs HP is almost the same aswell. But i never hear a STI break down I usually hear more of a EVO.

I do Love the EVO, but i dont like hearing aobut them breaking as much as i do, and from what i hear around the STi is more reliable.

Eaither way, a GT-R is better. LOL

BadBandar
02-21-2009, 02:40 PM
Honda-Eater u must have a huge population of msps in ur area. All of last year i saw 1 msp thats excluding meets. I never see them on the road, well besides mine. I see evos and stis all the time. You go to ur nearest starbucks or barnes and nobles and ull find one there.
And Im assuming ur making some good money. Because maitence(spelling?) on those things are not cheap. But if u got the dough all the power to you, they do look sexy as hell.

neox.286
02-21-2009, 07:52 PM
And yes, EVO's look nice, but they break down like a Mofo

and msps dont?
I've owned this car for 2 years and it's ran for maybe 10 months of that time

HondaEat-R
02-22-2009, 12:41 AM
Honda-Eater u must have a huge population of msps in ur area. All of last year i saw 1 msp thats excluding meets. I never see them on the road, well besides mine. I see evos and stis all the time. You go to ur nearest starbucks or barnes and nobles and ull find one there.
And Im assuming ur making some good money. Because maitence(spelling?) on those things are not cheap. But if u got the dough all the power to you, they do look sexy as hell.

Brother, I was getting money from a ATM today at Stewarts, and a kid pulls up next to me in god damned Laser Blue or whatever MSP....I laughed out loud seriously...Un-fucking-believable. He said he bought from someone in Connecticut. I told him about the forum.

It's not like I only want an Evo, because I'm considering a mazdaspeed 3 also. Either way, in my area there are not alot of higher-end sport compacts or cars like Evo, STI and such. The people that have money here buy Lexus and BMW etc.. I just want something that is fun to drive w/ out needing to be modded so much, you know ?


Show me articles.... THEY ARE THE ABOUT SAME. I dont know what your reading man....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioNjbsjAZ8k
On the Top Gear track the Evo8 was only 2 seconds faster then the STI Which isnt much to me.

The Numbers of weight vs HP is almost the same aswell. But i never hear a STI break down I usually hear more of a EVO.

I do Love the EVO, but i dont like hearing aobut them breaking as much as i do, and from what i hear around the STi is more reliable.

Eaither way, a GT-R is better. LOL


Every review I read put the Evo above the STI, all of them. And also, a 2 second win in a race is plenty.
GT-R is sick, damn. Nissans are my heart man...

Outlawstar98
02-22-2009, 02:26 AM
Brother, I was getting money from a ATM today at Stewarts, and a kid pulls up next to me in god damned Laser Blue or whatever MSP....I laughed out loud seriously...Un-fucking-believable. He said he bought from someone in Connecticut. I told him about the forum.

It's not like I only want an Evo, because I'm considering a mazdaspeed 3 also. Either way, in my area there are not alot of higher-end sport compacts or cars like Evo, STI and such. The people that have money here buy Lexus and BMW etc.. I just want something that is fun to drive w/ out needing to be modded so much, you know ?


Get a RX-8... and take it on a track, They are a blast to drive.

Oh wait... do you mean a fast car on a track, cause you said fun to drive. a MSP is a blast, and a RX-8 is a really good drivers car. (birthday)

terbow
02-22-2009, 01:04 PM
Honda,

Your on a Mazda forum. More specifically in the MSP section. What sort of reaction did you expect? You will be defending your decision untill your blue in the face. LOL. Mine as well give up now.

Get what you like. Its your decision, and I think no one can make that but you.

Outlawstar98
02-22-2009, 01:10 PM
Honda,

Your on a Mazda forum. More specifically in the MSP section. What sort of reaction did you expect? You will be defending your decision untill your blue in the face. LOL. Mine as well give up now.

Get what you like. Its your decision, and I think no one can make that but you.
Well I think if Obama tells people to buy a car... All those stupid people that think hes god will buy that car :P hahaha even if they dont like the car.

(and im saying in general, not towards Honda haha)

terbow
02-22-2009, 01:20 PM
Well I think if Obama tells people to buy a car... All those stupid people that think hes god will buy that car :P hahaha even if they dont like the car.

(and im saying in general, not towards Honda haha)

Well yea, of course the sheep will follow the flock. I was assuming he was capable of his own decision making lol.

Outlawstar98
02-22-2009, 01:39 PM
Should I change the title to "Post your MODS & PSI" because it seams like people are posting the mods from anywhere, and that arnt preformance. Or "Post Your Engine ODS & PSI" I Like that one more. Any one else think I should?

Oh and Honda, if you do switch, Can i haz your transmission?? :)

HondaEat-R
02-22-2009, 01:46 PM
Honda,

Your on a Mazda forum. More specifically in the MSP section. What sort of reaction did you expect? You will be defending your decision untill your blue in the face. LOL. Mine as well give up now.

Get what you like. Its your decision, and I think no one can make that but you.

Hahah, I know it... you're right.

You guys, I'm not really ragging that hard on these cars....I have one, remember ? What I am saying is that there are other cars that are faster out of the box, and have a higher build quality than our MSP's. And I want one... I want to be able to do full exhaust and a tune on something, and have it be fun to drive w/ just those mods. There's no reason why someone should have to spend a ton of $ on a car to get it to be fast. People keep saying that there's so much value in individualism, and guess what...I see a assload of MSP's around here, it's absurd, so I know what you mean..

shane02pro5
02-22-2009, 01:46 PM
I think the major big thing is still running the stock turbo with very quick spool up on top of a built tranny with even tighter gearing than stock which caused even more traction issues. Doesnt matter what car you drive...this combination in a fwd unless your running around on slicks is "spin city"

HondaEat-R
02-22-2009, 01:49 PM
Should I change the title to "Post your MODS & PSI" because it seams like people are posting the mods from anywhere, and that arnt preformance. Or "Post Your Engine ODS & PSI" I Like that one more. Any one else think I should?

Oh and Honda, if you do switch, Can i haz your transmission?? :)

Haha, sure. Just make sure you use NEO Synthetic (drive2)

HondaEat-R
02-22-2009, 01:51 PM
I think the major big thing is still running the stock turbo with very quick spool up on top of a built tranny with even tighter gearing than stock which caused even more traction issues. Doesnt matter what car you drive...this combination in a fwd unless your running around on slicks is "spin city"

You're absolutely right, those are the issues. I need something w/ a little more gusto, but not really feeling up to swapping the turbo. Too busy nowadays.

orng1
02-22-2009, 01:58 PM
and msps dont?
I've owned this car for 2 years and it's ran for maybe 10 months of that time

I have to blame the build quality on the mechanic with this one.

orng1
02-22-2009, 02:04 PM
You're absolutely right, those are the issues. I need something w/ a little more gusto, but not really feeling up to swapping the turbo. Too busy nowadays.

You can't expect that much out of a car that was designed for drivability.

orng1
02-22-2009, 02:13 PM
Right now the only thing that my car has is a big turbo with a manifold and an exhaust. It has plenty of gusto.

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-22-2009, 02:29 PM
First of all, your car is all business...especially if you're racing Gallardos, haha. That thing is nice, nice job. The reason I'm "sweating an Evo" is because it's my personal preference as to what I spend my $30,000 on. I like how they look, they're fast right out-of-the-box, good aftermarket support...AWD. That's why, I can't speak for others though.

This protege is a economy family car, sporting a turbo and rims. I want a true enthusiast car. Another good reason is, I don't want this FWD car to have much more power, torque steer is a bitch already. FWD cars were not meant to have power like this. It's great that you want to be away from the "bunch", but If I want a certain car and it happens that many others have that car...I don't care, I'm getting it for me. The same god damn day I registered my MSP, I was out driving to the wash and in 20 minutes I saw 3 other MSP's.....I wanted to freak the fuck out. I see an Evo maybe once a month around here, so speak for yourself about "apart from the bunch".

It's funny how people rag on the type of car another wants. I'm glad you love your 500hp Protege..you kinda have no choice after spending the money you have spent on it...correct ? In my eyes, any year Evo is better looking, and better performing than the MSP. That's enough reason for me but I could go on. Don't get me wrong, I like my MSP etc..but I want something else man..

I understand you man, what i meant with another from the bunch means, at least In Miami where i used to live, i was tired of seeing fast, very fast Lancers, Very Fast STI's, very fast SRT-4's and hell of fast Honda's, i was not talking about being another from the bunch Protege owner, so hope you and people here didn't got me in the wrong way. Down south in Miami you see the cars mentioned above in every corner, so i felt i didn't want to own a car every single daddy's boy teenager has, i respect your opinion about the EVO being better than the MSP, that's no doubt, but you also have to take into consideration the price difference between them, how much is an Evo MR New ? 40K, 46K Stock with 280 HP ? how much is an MSP 20k when they came out, with 170 HP right? well that's a difference between 20-26k if we talk about money, well any and i mean Any 20k worth car with another 20-26k on it will be infinite better than an 40-46K stock Evo HondaEat-R, i mean is cool that you love the Lancers, i'm cool with that and not Ragging on anybody here, but there are also people like me that thinks that The Lancer are too Expensive for what they are, and with the same total amount of money you can make any car better than and the Evo. I mean you can buy what ever car you want man, is not my money you know, i was just giving you my opinion on something simple like adding a bigger this, a little bigger that to compensate what you think is not working on your car, I'm very happy that i'm seeing more people not giving up on the Proteges, people putting mad effort on a car that is not that bad when you spend some descent money on it, I ain't Rich you know, i got a line of credit from my business and did everything i did to my car little by little including paying off the car as well i know not everybody can't spend that much on a car but i also know not everybody can buy a 40-46k worth car and if you ask me i prefer to buy a 20k car and add another 20k but i know is going to be better in every single aspect and the way i like than spending 40k on a stock car, good luck with your MSP and with your future EVO, no hard feelings in this side of the screen bro..

blkonblkMSP
02-22-2009, 02:38 PM
lol, nope
stupid me didn't wait for Microtech to send me back my standalone and I ran it at 10psi on the stock tune...hit MASSIVE predetonation a few times and suddenly I hear -knock knock knock knock knock- and thought 'FUCK!' lol

note to anyone building a motor:
do NOT cut corners! they WILL bite you in the ass on the msp >.<

wat do you mean cuttin corners?(boom07)

Are you saying you can still spin a bearing on a forged block?

Mods:
Low comp. Aries pistons
Pauter Rods
Welded Lsd
Gt3071R
Forge WG
thunder mani
BFMIC
3" DP
Injen intake

I am not planning of boosting at all till i put at least 3k miles in it and a EMS
probably a SS v2.

neox.286 are you saying I cant even hit 15 psi without this thing blowing even with all the mods mentioned above?

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-22-2009, 02:42 PM
any car can break at any time, nobody is safe from that, but if you do it good from the first time and do things right, or take the car to the right place i bet you have a lot less chance of your car to break or your engine to blow.

blkonblkMSP
02-22-2009, 02:48 PM
any car can break at any time, nobody is safe from that, but if you do it good from the first time and do things right, or take the car to the right place i bet you have a lot less chance of your car to break or your engine to blow.

I appreciate your input on this man your msp is one of te fastest out there, and its because of your msp that i didnt give up on mine, i want to one day break that 400+Hp mark lol.. but I know it takes hard work and even more cash but im taking baby steps Lol.. one thing at a time.

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-22-2009, 02:57 PM
I appreciate your input on this man your msp is one of te fastest out there, and its because of your msp that i didnt give up on mine, i want to one day break that 400+Hp mark lol.. but I know it takes hard work and even more cash but im taking baby steps Lol.. one thing at a time.

That's the way to think, I didn't do all of the stuff at once, i did it by stages and the main thing i did i believed in what i wanted and didn't let anybody to trash my ideas and dreams, any 400-500 HP car cost money, you are not going to have a 400 HP with just $2000, even you buy an evo, you need more than that, but hey this is a forum full of heads that don't think the same way, and that's the nice thing about it, to share. But if you ask me personally what do you prefer to get a 40k Car or buy a half price one and add 20k on it and make it your way i'll do it again with my eyes closed. i know i might look and sound crazy to spend the money i did on mine. but when i see my friend Harold that bought back at 2007 a EVO MR fully loaded for 45k and after few races we've done he have said, HOW THE FUCK,,,, i say yes HOW THE FUCK if we have spend the same amount of money.. well i leave the rest for you think why the fuck !!!! lol..

Thank you very much for your words man, they help me to keep going and never give up on things i really want to do..

blkonblkMSP
02-22-2009, 03:07 PM
That's the way to think, I didn't do all of the stuff at once, i did it by stages and the main thing i did i believed in what i wanted and didn't let anybody to trash my ideas and dreams, any 400-500 HP car cost money, you are not going to have a 400 HP with just $2000, even you buy an evo, you need more than that, but hey this is a forum full of heads that don't think the same way, and that's the nice thing about it, to share. But if you ask me personally what do you prefer to get a 40k Car or buy a half price one and add 20k on it and make it your way i'll do it again with my eyes closed. i know i might look and sound crazy to spend the money i did on mine. but when i see my friend Harold that bought back at 2007 a EVO MR fully loaded for 45k and after few races we've done he have said, HOW THE FUCK,,,, i say yes HOW THE FUCK if we have spend the same amount of money.. well i leave the rest for you think why the fuck !!!! lol..

Thank you very much for your words man, they help me to keep going and never give up on things i really want to do..

I agree and Lol.. dont get me wrong but there is also alot of fast evos out there and thats not taking into consideration they have way more aftermarket support than us. Is your friends evo modded at all?

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-22-2009, 03:12 PM
I agree and Lol.. dont get me wrong but there is also alot of fast evos out there and thats not taking into consideration they have way more aftermarket support than us. Is your friends evo modded at all?

Few stuff done, but hey we are talking about same amount of money, We both have spend around 47k, you get my point ? i know if you trow money on a EVO you can make way more power than any MSP on the planet, but how much did you had to invest just to get the car ? you get the idea... both of US side by side, same amount of money my friend Harold knows he have nothing to do against my yes PROTEGE...

blkonblkMSP
02-22-2009, 03:27 PM
Lol.. yea , was just looking at your cardomain page SICK ride mang(thumb)

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-22-2009, 03:32 PM
Lol.. yea , was just looking at your cardomain page SICK ride mang(thumb)

Thanks once again, your MSP looks insane riding on those 19" shoes if you ask me..

blkonblkMSP
02-22-2009, 03:47 PM
Thanks once again, your MSP looks insane riding on those 19" shoes if you ask me..

Thanks mang I got BIG plans for this lil beast hopefully I get it to be quicker than me bros SRT-4

orng1
02-22-2009, 04:41 PM
Thanks mang I got BIG plans for this lil beast hopefully I get it to be quicker than me bros SRT-4

Start with a built block and you should make it a lot easier and less stressful.

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-22-2009, 04:42 PM
Thanks mang I got BIG plans for this lil beast hopefully I get it to be quicker than me bros SRT-4

hahahaha,,,don't worry man tell your brother you have another brother from another mother when ever he wants to make fun of your MSP, I'll hurt his SRT-4 ego very bad !!!! lol lol

orng1
02-22-2009, 04:45 PM
Your kind of far to do that.

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-22-2009, 04:46 PM
Your kind of far to do that.

Well if you say so sir, it was just a little Joke for him anyways but just wondering what makes you think i'm kind of far to do that i'm very curious. PM me if you want and let's keep this thread clean and no more thread jacking..

orng1
02-22-2009, 04:52 PM
Houston TX to Spain, well that would be 5009 miles or 8061Kilometers. Seems far to me.

orng1
02-22-2009, 04:53 PM
Oh and I put Madrid since it was what came up when I googled it.

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-22-2009, 04:53 PM
Houston TX to Spain, well that would be miles or 8061Kilometers. Seems far to me.

hahahahahaha.... I get it now..... very good one bro...... lol lol lol

orng1
02-22-2009, 04:54 PM
I'm sure the DFW guys would be wiloling to help prove a point though. If I were a few hrs away I'd even make the drive for a forum friend.

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-22-2009, 04:57 PM
I'm sure the DFW guys would be wiloling to help prove a point though. If I were a few hrs away I'd even make the drive for a forum friend.

Good night pal, already 10pm here time to go to sleep. Finally tomorrow i'm fixing up my car to get it back at the road i'll make more nice videos this time.. I'll catch you all later...

orng1
02-22-2009, 04:58 PM
I wanted to make the drive to NorCAL for that guy with the 800hp EVO I think it was that was calling out anyone but that guy chickend out when I took the offer. That would have been a 6+hr drive for me.

BadBandar
02-22-2009, 05:36 PM
I wanted to make the drive to NorCAL for that guy with the 800hp EVO I think it was that was calling out anyone but that guy chickend out when I took the offer. That would have been a 6+hr drive for me.

Do u mean u were going to race him? If so, there better be some sort of video included. Yea that drive can be draining.

neox.286
02-22-2009, 06:41 PM
I have to blame the build quality on the mechanic with this one.

on my car, yea
but not on 99% of the other msps out there that are broken down most of the time

msps are NOT reliable cars, I don't care who says it....if you're lucky they are fine, but even those who take care of it have had their rods randomly snap on them (I recall the guy who had his rods snap when he pulled out of his driveway in reverse), the LSD can and WILL snap, the transmission likes to shred 3rd gear, the turbo tends to go out

don't get me wrong, I <3 the msp but they DO break down a lot and as such they are not reliable

blkonblkMSP
02-22-2009, 07:06 PM
on my car, yea
but not on 99% of the other msps out there that are broken down most of the time

msps are NOT reliable cars, I don't care who says it....if you're lucky they are fine, but even those who take care of it have had their rods randomly snap on them (I recall the guy who had his rods snap when he pulled out of his driveway in reverse), the LSD can and WILL snap, the transmission likes to shred 3rd gear, the turbo tends to go out

don't get me wrong, I <3 the msp but they DO break down a lot and as such they are not reliable

Wat! a forged rod randomly snaps? r u serious?

Ricktalife
02-22-2009, 07:19 PM
i don't think he said they were forged.

blkonblkMSP
02-22-2009, 07:28 PM
i don't think he said they were forged.

Oh got me nervous for a minute there

neox.286
02-22-2009, 07:29 PM
no I wasn't talking about forged rods

orng1
02-22-2009, 08:41 PM
Hey Neox, who was that kid you were saying that was talking big about having the fastest car? That was an EVO or something right? He claimed to have 9billion HP but didn't know what turbo he was running.

neox.286
02-22-2009, 08:44 PM
wha? I don't recall that

HondaEat-R
02-22-2009, 10:45 PM
I totally understand. I just don't want to have to mod the hell out of a car for it to be quick. I'm looking at Altima SE-R's too. (dance)


I understand you man, what i meant with another from the bunch means, at least In Miami where i used to live, i was tired of seeing fast, very fast Lancers, Very Fast STI's, very fast SRT-4's and hell of fast Honda's, i was not talking about being another from the bunch Protege owner, so hope you and people here didn't got me in the wrong way. Down south in Miami you see the cars mentioned above in every corner, so i felt i didn't want to own a car every single daddy's boy teenager has, i respect your opinion about the EVO being better than the MSP, that's no doubt, but you also have to take into consideration the price difference between them, how much is an Evo MR New ? 40K, 46K Stock with 280 HP ? how much is an MSP 20k when they came out, with 170 HP right? well that's a difference between 20-26k if we talk about money, well any and i mean Any 20k worth car with another 20-26k on it will be infinite better than an 40-46K stock Evo HondaEat-R, i mean is cool that you love the Lancers, i'm cool with that and not Ragging on anybody here, but there are also people like me that thinks that The Lancer are too Expensive for what they are, and with the same total amount of money you can make any car better than and the Evo. I mean you can buy what ever car you want man, is not my money you know, i was just giving you my opinion on something simple like adding a bigger this, a little bigger that to compensate what you think is not working on your car, I'm very happy that i'm seeing more people not giving up on the Proteges, people putting mad effort on a car that is not that bad when you spend some descent money on it, I ain't Rich you know, i got a line of credit from my business and did everything i did to my car little by little including paying off the car as well i know not everybody can't spend that much on a car but i also know not everybody can buy a 40-46k worth car and if you ask me i prefer to buy a 20k car and add another 20k but i know is going to be better in every single aspect and the way i like than spending 40k on a stock car, good luck with your MSP and with your future EVO, no hard feelings in this side of the screen bro..

Outlawstar98
02-22-2009, 10:47 PM
I totally understand. I just don't want to have to mod the hell out of a car for it to be quick. I'm looking at Altima SE-R's too. (dance)

I know someone who has one, its a nice car, but its a lil heavy and not many mod's you can do without spending alot of money

SeR_Cyclops
02-22-2009, 10:53 PM
lol i drove a spec-v and its like the only stock car that i can get to chirp into third.

Ricktalife
02-22-2009, 10:56 PM
lol i drove a spec-v and its like the only stock car that i can get to chirp into third.

yea i miss my spec v. taking it to an auction this thursday since i really need the money now that i wrecked my f'in msp..

shane02pro5
02-23-2009, 01:55 AM
I have a buddy that was looking at altima se-r's but they were too overpriced and still fwd. There isn't a car on the market I'd rather be driving than my p5 especially after my new turbo goes in this week!

SeR_Cyclops
02-23-2009, 02:17 AM
nothing but a mazdaspeed protege!!!! LOLz J/K!!

Mazdaspeed2oo35
02-23-2009, 03:02 AM
nothing but a mazdaspeed protege!!!! LOLz J/K!!

Hell yeah man, nothing but Mazdaspeed Protege here man...

orng1
02-23-2009, 03:39 AM
wha? I don't recall that

Really, it might have been Fidel my friends cousin. I was all hyped up ready to go too. But the guy called it off and didn't want to race that much any more. I knew he didn't have anything special.

HondaEat-R
02-23-2009, 12:01 PM
I have a buddy that was looking at altima se-r's but they were too overpriced and still fwd. There isn't a car on the market I'd rather be driving than my p5 especially after my new turbo goes in this week!

Yea, from the dealer everything worth driving is pricey though.

I guess it comes down to this, I'm 27 years old, and my priorities no longer include modding the crap out of my cars.. I want a quick car w/ minimal work, or no work done. Not to mention, the MSP is a bit boy-racer-ish...

Outlawstar98
02-23-2009, 06:48 PM
Get a Lambo then. GOSH

SeR_Cyclops
02-23-2009, 08:24 PM
I love my MSP but Id sell her in a heart beat for a Lambo, if the funds were there.

HondaEat-R
02-24-2009, 11:23 AM
Get a Lambo then. GOSH <------Do I sense a little Napoleon Dynamite attitude ?.....haha

No dice. I'd buy a GT-R waaay before a Lambo. Don't Lambos run on spaghetti sauce anyways ?....

I was actually looking at Lotus Elise's the other day, and saw they can be had for less than 30,000 right now, low mileage. But my gut tells me that buying a Lotus may not be a good idea.....and my fiance agrees, haha.

haze20
02-24-2009, 11:31 AM
I won't get rid of my MSP because its pretty much paid off. However the next car I buy for myself will probaly be a used low mileage Evo IX MR in black or white.

shane02pro5
02-24-2009, 12:19 PM
Sneak peek!
(idhitit)

neox.286
02-24-2009, 12:25 PM
lol, why are you working on the motor on the floor? don't you have an engine stand?

shane02pro5
02-24-2009, 12:28 PM
No but that's my old motor and it's on a block of wood.

neox.286
02-24-2009, 12:31 PM
still haha, if I were you I would invest in an engine stand...they aren't that expensive over at harbor freight, I've got their engine hoist and it's held up to a lot of abuse so far

awesome build though! keep it up

shane02pro5
02-24-2009, 12:36 PM
I do need an engine stand for when I go back and get the head more prepared for bigger boost. I used our forklift and a chain as an engine hoist. All purpose tool!

neox.286
02-24-2009, 12:45 PM
hahahaha, long as it gets the job done!

HondaEat-R
02-24-2009, 03:43 PM
Sneak peek!
(idhitit)

That's serious business. Good for you man, have fun... What is that, a gt35 ?

neox.286
02-24-2009, 03:45 PM
think it's a 3071, unless his signature lies....=P

shane02pro5
02-24-2009, 03:54 PM
After first sending the wrong turbo they are now sending me a different comp housing. It's a gt3071r 64ar soon to be with a 28rs comp housing for better fitment and quicker spool.

Outlawstar98
02-24-2009, 04:13 PM
http://siteground207.com/~protegeg/product_info.php?cPath=32_181&products_id=1492
Would that be a direct replacement guys? But would you have to get a custom DP?

neox.286
02-24-2009, 04:16 PM
yes that is a direct replacement, so is the ones from crossover (though I think they have a 'direct replacement kit' with extra pieces to make it a true direct replacement)

but I wouldn't run that on the stock block unless you have a REALLY conservative tune from an EMS that handles FULL fuel and ignition timing (i.e. NOT a ss AFC)

Outlawstar98
02-24-2009, 04:20 PM
I plan on a haultech anyways one day haha, im just planing for the future (evil)

neox.286
02-24-2009, 04:21 PM
haltech BEFORE that turbo
even then I would have a reliable daily driver before you drop that turbo in, just in case

Outlawstar98
02-24-2009, 04:24 PM
Lol I know, Like i said, FUTURE :)

Im just happy that it connects with the GHl Downpipe :) so my future is looking gooddddddddd (mainly with a SpeedCircuit fully built motor, Im going to be smilies all day long)

blkonblkMSP
02-24-2009, 10:32 PM
Sneak peek!
(idhitit)

Hey.. thats my exact same set up Lol... wat internals you running?


Edit: Did you break in me garage and stole my set up plan? Lol... J/k mang goodluck on te build.

shane02pro5
02-25-2009, 12:46 AM
I was about to order 17x8.5 lighter wheels sticky 235 rubber and a wilwood bbk and majorly pull some fenders but my IHI turbo didn't like that plan!

Check my sig... Speedcircuit pauter & arias 8.5:1 and stage 1 head.

JDM Sam
02-25-2009, 03:57 AM
http://mazdaspeedtuning.com/c2.jpg
You mean this bad boy? I run it with the .50 a/r though cuz I wanted to make it fit.
FYI, the GT3071R does not "bolt in" or just a replacement, there are certain things included in the kit that include certain required parts. You can buy the turbo anywhere, but you may not get the 411 or the parts on how to install it properly elsewhere.

speedy gonzales
02-25-2009, 10:24 AM
Hi JDM SAM,I see in your sig you push 18 PSI with stock turbo, did he hold that until redline because mine only hold 13 psi at 6k RPM.I can boost 16-17 psi in mid-range but past 4.5k rpm it gradually fall between 12.5-13 psi.

Thanks

orng1
02-26-2009, 03:56 AM
How stock is that turbo?

SeR_Cyclops
02-26-2009, 06:46 AM
How stock is that turbo?

ceramic coated Garrett GT3071R

So I guess its as stock, as stock gets.

orng1
02-26-2009, 02:28 PM
ceramic coated Garrett GT3071R

So I guess its as stock, as stock gets.

Stock. (yes)

speed1016
02-26-2009, 02:40 PM
on the lazer blue msp on the orange. I'm reading his sig, I see 2 cars. One orange at 20+ psi and one blue on stock turbo at 18psi

JDM Sam
02-26-2009, 08:25 PM
yeah it holds to 6500. its probably your boost controller. i use electronic boost controllers only.

Ricktalife
02-26-2009, 09:16 PM
hey sam i'll trade you laser blue's :P

that is if you don't mind having a wrecked one.

speedy gonzales
02-27-2009, 10:26 AM
yeah it holds to 6500. its probably your boost controller. i use electronic boost controllers only.

OK ,but me too I have a turbosmart E-boost 2.I have to check that this summer.

Thank you

HondaEat-R
02-27-2009, 01:28 PM
So, what's up with making a GT28 fit ? All it takes is some actuator modding ?

Cruzanspeed
03-11-2009, 06:27 PM
14psi with 60k stock internals. with mods

MSPLIFE
03-13-2009, 12:23 AM
14psi with 60k stock internals. with mods



so 14 psi on the gt28

climb1019
03-13-2009, 09:36 AM
wiseco pistons 9:1
pauter rods
supertech 1mm oversized valves
supertech dual valve springs, titanium retainers
ngk i stage colder iridium plugs
ARP head studs, main bolts, rod bolts
fmic
greddy bov
injen cai
170 lower temp thermostat
unichip
gt2860rs going in today
stock psi until tuned

Cruzanspeed
03-13-2009, 01:03 PM
yeh 14psi with gt28rs! I ran 13psi on the stock turbo for 5 years with no problems.

zuku26
03-13-2009, 01:49 PM
So, what's up with making a GT28 fit ? All it takes is some actuator modding ?

You also have to fuss with the oil and coolant lines, But I wonder is you swapped to the braided hoses if that would eliminate that issue.


yeh 14psi with gt28rs! I ran 13psi on the stock turbo for 5 years with no problems.

What is all done to the motor and EMS? I'm fearful running more then 7 without forging the motor. I will run 8-9 once we install the Split second

Outlawstar98
03-13-2009, 02:12 PM
Im just going to run stock boost untill I get a built motor/ GT3071R

But i might upgrade my turbo to a GT25 with 28's internals, or a GT28. Dont know yet.

JDM Sam
03-15-2009, 09:32 PM
Anything less than 12 psi on a GT3071R is a waste. Anyone considering that turbo needs a built motor and EMS beforehand.

foxracer
04-05-2009, 01:10 AM
GT28RS just installed
Hard Pipes
Intake
MM
3inch TBE
Meth Injection
9psi

SeR_Cyclops
04-05-2009, 11:40 AM
Foxracer do you have a built motor?

foxracer
04-05-2009, 01:21 PM
nope not yet. thats why i stay out of boost as much as possible.



Foxracer do you have a built motor?

SeR_Cyclops
04-05-2009, 01:33 PM
Wow 9psi on a GT28RS! did you know that 6 pounds on a 28rs is about the same as the stocker at 10 pounds?

foxracer
04-05-2009, 02:11 PM
Yes i did know that.


Wow 9psi on a GT28RS! did you know that 6 pounds on a 28rs is about the same as the stocker at 10 pounds?

HighwayUFO
04-05-2009, 03:42 PM
Read sig for engine mods. Stock bottom end.

14 psi stable.

Back when all I had was the front mount and an MBC, I did 250 WHP at 18psi. Oh how the times have changed.

foxracer
04-05-2009, 04:22 PM
Any one have advice on what i should to next on my car to run 9psi and not blow it up?

shane02pro5
04-05-2009, 04:55 PM
Knocklight!

cityracer
04-06-2009, 02:58 AM
engine mods worth mentioning; pauter rods/wiseco 9.0.1/arp head studs/cometic head gasket/clevite bearings. Held nicely at 20psi through a gt30r~22psi felt good but then something went wrong this morning and at 24psi I broke a piston or the rings.. (a/f were 10-11's, egts were ok and duty cycle was mid 70%) Now burning oil, and a lot of blue smoke (even puffing out of the oil dipstick tube).

This is true and absolutely honest. The built up head is getting finished in a couple weeks, and a new set of lower comp pistons with arp mains are next for engine number 6. I am also on my third trans, 2nd turbo, third bov, 4th set of injectors, 5th clutch, dual fuel pumps, water meth injection, sds em4, summit multi spark, etc etc... could blab for hours on the mods, but I broke her again this morning. So...

shane02pro5
04-06-2009, 10:07 AM
Man I'm very sorry to hear that!! Hope you get her going again soon enough!

Why running so much boost soo rich? Couldn't you make more power more efficiently dropping psi and leaning out a bit? I am at 17psi but run 11.8-12afrs.

cityracer
04-06-2009, 02:29 PM
Thanks man. Every time something like this happens, I end up wanting to get another car... But I will continue as I do love my car.. As to the a/f ratios, I was doing some tuning and compensating for projected accessory voltage drops. (a 1v variance can equal as much as a 6% variance in my fuel tune) As to why I am pushing so much boost through my gt30r. Well I am chasing down the power levels that my sister car is producing on their v6 kl engines with turbo systems.. I was getting close to 100hp per cylinder when the motor popped..

Mazdaspeed2oo35
04-06-2009, 02:37 PM
Thanks man. Every time something like this happens, I end up wanting to get another car... But I will continue as I do love my car.. As to the a/f ratios, I was doing some tuning and compensating for projected accessory voltage drops. (a 1v variance can equal as much as a 6% variance in my fuel tune) As to why I am pushing so much boost through my gt30r. Well I am chasing down the power levels that my sister car is producing on their v6 kl engines with turbo systems.. I was getting close to 100hp per cylinder when the motor popped..

Very nice man. hope you can fix it up soon.. those are some nice numbers man..

cityracer
04-06-2009, 04:34 PM
well the new engine will have a built head (been needing to buy the shims all winter to finish it). corksport stainless valves~viton stem seals~eibach vs~solid lifters~fsze intake cam. The block depending on the condition post tear down will keep the Pauters, and arp head studs. New clevite bearings, new arp main studs, new cometic h/g, and the pistons we will see on.

I just drove the car very gently, and it didn't smoke at all or give me any trouble. I didn't boost her though. So maybe my pistons are ok, and it's the rings that went... If the block is good, then I will just re-ring the wiseco 9:1's and hone the block. If the block is damaged, then I have a left over set of .20 over 8.7:1 wisecos I may be able to use on the bored out block. Those came from a total failure engine build up attempt many years ago... They got a little banged up when I moved from cali to illinois, so I'm not sure if I can reuse those...

However say the pistons are ok, but the block is fubarred from the rings. I do have a spare block and crank available to me as well. I would just clean that block up, and move all the internals from this block over to that one.. Got a lot to figure out over the next few weeks.. :)