neox.286's build thread

[neox.286]

Well since the build is coming along and will be finished pretty soon I figured I'd post up a build thread (rockon)

so, I'll start with the plans and what's in the works:
* = stuff that I have already

--Engine:
*Pauter Rods
*CP Pistons (9.0:1)
*Lightened crankshaft (needs to be balanced still)
DocB oil pump upgrade
Fidanza flywheel
*Custom kevlar 6-puck clutch
505Zoom Intake manifold
*AWR Front/Rear motor mounts
*SLS Performance side motor mount

--Transmission:
*Quaife LSD
*All cryo treated gears

--Turbo kit:
*Steedspeed custom T3 manifold
Garrett GT3082R dual ball bearing turbocharger (either that or a 71R, haven't decided yet)
Tial 38mm external wastegate
Custom dump-tube into the S-pipe
*Modified Corksport S-pipe
*Corksport J-pipe
*Turbolife Front Mount Intercooler
*550cc Mopar injectors (I think I'm going to need to upgrade these to a little higher flow)
*Microtech LT-10S engine management
Methanol kit (not sure which brand yet, I have a few options)
Boost controller (not sure which brand yet, depends on what's available)

--Cylinder head
*Supertech 1mm oversized valves (I got the last set! lol)
*Supertech dual valvesprings/titanium retainers
Custom stage-2 port/polish, bowl work, valve work (gotta check my invoice again to see exactly what it entails)
Custom weld/re-grind on the cams, thinking about 256 but I haven't decided yet


That's so far what is planned for the build....we shall see what kind of numbers I am able to put down with this...I've set my goal at 400whp, though I'm not sure if I'll reach that with the GT30 or not, though I'm going to detune it a bit for street usage...but on the dyno I'm not afraid to crank the boost up to 25psi if needed, I'll just need larger injectors lol (in fact I'll probably have Casey tune it to the boost level that gives me my desired power then just back the pressure off a few PSI for street)


(rockon)(rockon)(rockon)

[neox.286]

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[neox.286]

okay, done reserving lol

[BadBandar]

Wow looking good. So whats going to happen to the disco tater u got now. I want it...LOL. Its good to see that ur going to keep her after all. Keep the updates coming. And we need pics dude. do u take the msp to emeryville or it sits at ur house?

[neox.286]

haha, thanks bro! but the disco potato got sold AGES ago to a member here =P
(well, it was the next step down from what you would consider a true 'disco potato', it was a GT2860 rather than a GT2876, but still haha)

I had a T3/T4 setup on the car as of recent but I just sold that turbo to Ferdie in so-cal cause his turbo blew on him a few days ago and I don't need it at the moment haha

the msp sits at my parent's house still =(
the engine is in pieces in the garage lol....soon, soon she will be finished haha

I'll grab some pics of stuff when I head home this weekend for work (thumb)
and I'll update this with pics and stuff too along the way as they arrive =)

[boostdprotegelx]

sounds sweet man... where are you gettin the clutch from??

[neox.286]

thanks bro!

a good friend of mine (Orng1, bob...he's on here) has a friend that has a company that makes custom clutches (I believe that's how bob get's them)....basically you send your clutch/pressure plate off to them and they fab you a clutch

got a great price on it too, ~350...I've ran it for a little while now and I absolutely love it....perfect weight and grips hard (lol, everyone else who's driven my car tends to stall it a few times.....)

[boostdprotegelx]

thanks bro!

a good friend of mine (Orng1, bob...he's on here) has a friend that has a company that makes custom clutches (I believe that's how bob get's them)....basically you send your clutch/pressure plate off to them and they fab you a clutch

got a great price on it too, ~350...I've ran it for a little while now and I absolutely love it....perfect weight and grips hard (lol, everyone else who's driven my car tends to stall it a few times.....)

what if you don't have a clutch to give them?? i want one.. that's a steal..

[neox.286]

I'm sure bob has one laying around...shoot him a pm and let him know what your power range is (tell him I sent ya), I think he they offer a higher strength one than the one I've got (got it before I decided on the gt30)

I can't guarantee the price though, it's been a while since I bought it lol....but I believe that's around what I got it for

his screen name is Orng1

[boostdprotegelx]

I'm sure bob has one laying around...shoot him a pm and let him know what your power range is (tell him I sent ya), I think he they offer a higher strength one than the one I've got (got it before I decided on the gt30)

I can't guarantee the price though, it's been a while since I bought it lol....but I believe that's around what I got it for

his screen name is Orng1

werd.. sounds good..thanks.

[neox.286]

no problem

crappy pics of the clutch:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/Mr-Gib/PIC-0070.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/Mr-Gib/PIC-0071.jpg

I do recall that it didn't come with a alignment tool though....but you can rent that from napa, kragen, or autozone

[Ricktalife]

you're keeping teh sex? i mean msp? AWESOME!

[boostdprotegelx]

no problem

crappy pics of the clutch:
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/Mr-Gib/PIC-0070.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/Mr-Gib/PIC-0071.jpg

I do recall that it didn't come with a alignment tool though....but you can rent that from napa, kragen, or autozone

ok nice. well i pmed bob.. we'll see what he says.

[neox.286]

ricktalife: lol, that's the thing....I found it would be cheaper to finish the project than to go back to stock....then the project got out of hand again and I'm going way more than I need to hahaha, I really just want to finish the project

but after that, probably towards the end of summer, I'm going to be putting the car up for sale....long as I can get 10-12k out of selling the car (it's paid off) and give someone else a steal on everything altogether I'll be happy

[MSP2k3]

sub'n!

[neox.286]

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[SeR_Cyclops]

Why dump all this money into this car and then sell it? If you want to know what a msp is worth ill tell you :( they are only worth like 5500-6000 dollars really that is one with low miles and in above average condition i seen one sell on manhiem the other day for 1000 dollars.

EDIT: also manhiem does not sell wrecks most of their stuff is ride and drive.

[neox.286]

because I don't like leaving projects half finished...I set out on this, and I'm going to finish it

i'm not going into massive debt to do this, I don't have to do this, I'm choosing to because I want to finish the project

I've seen plenty of msps sell for around 8000, one with this kind of setup in it would sell for at least 10....mods don't boost the price of an msp, I know, but there's a difference between selling an msp with mods and selling an msp with a built motor/transmission, most of the time they go back to around kelly blue book price from what I've seen on several forums

I'm not in a rush to get it gone, and I doubt it will go right away....in anything I'll swap motors/transmissions/turbo kits/ems with someone else and sell it stock (which I'd get more money this way)

I'm not out to make a profit, I'm only doing this for the enjoyment of the project

[SeR_Cyclops]

I see, and i can understand about finishing the project.

[boostdprotegelx]

because I don't like leaving projects half finished...I set out on this, and I'm going to finish it

i'm not going into massive debt to do this, I don't have to do this, I'm choosing to because I want to finish the project

I've seen plenty of msps sell for around 8000, one with this kind of setup in it would sell for at least 10....mods don't boost the price of an msp, I know, but there's a difference between selling an msp with mods and selling an msp with a built motor/transmission, most of the time they go back to around kelly blue book price from what I've seen on several forums

I'm not in a rush to get it gone, and I doubt it will go right away....in anything I'll swap motors/transmissions/turbo kits/ems with someone else and sell it stock (which I'd get more money this way)

I'm not out to make a profit, I'm only doing this for the enjoyment of the project
my reasoning for finishing mine as well.. i could easily sell off the parts i have currently and pay off my car plus some.. which is 7500

[808MP5]

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where you get the crank from?

[orng1]

Why dump all this money into this car and then sell it?

Because he's an idiot, I told him already that a modifed car is worth way less than it actually cost than a stock one. He doesn't listen to me. He could just have given me all his parts and I'd trade him for stock pieces. I'd even ship them to him free.

The clutch kit didn't come with an alignement tool because they had run out. I tried to get him one for you but he shipped it out to you before I got a few to him. Their like $5-6.

[orng1]

I think this is build thread part IV chapter 3.

[neox.286]

my reasoning for finishing mine as well.. i could easily sell off the parts i have currently and pay off my car plus some.. which is 7500

exactly, I may wind up doing at after I'm done anyways
I just want to finish it first


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where you get the crank from?

bought it from Vel
still gotta get it all balanced though, it doesn't appear that it is in balance as of yet


Because he's an idiot, I told him already that a modifed car is worth way less than it actually cost than a stock one. He doesn't listen to me. He could just have given me all his parts and I'd trade him for stock pieces. I'd even ship them to him free.

The clutch kit didn't come with an alignement tool because they had run out. I tried to get him one for you but he shipped it out to you before I got a few to him. Their like $5-6.

haha, no worries on the alignment tool, I just rented one from napa

but yes, I know modded cars go for less....however, I've seen plenty of msps sell for 10-14, kelly blue book is closer to 10, and the rest sell for less because they don't have anything to offer....this car isn't going to be worth 20k, no, but I'm fairly certain that with a built motor/tranny I can get 10-12 out of the car which I'm 100% fine with....this is NOT an investment lol

even if I don't get that I'll swap my entire engine bay with someone (obviously with some cash back to me as well) with a stock msp and sell the car like that...in which case I could make my 10k outcome easily

I'm not an idiot bob =P


I think this is build thread part IV chapter 3.

part V actually hahahahaha

[boostdprotegelx]

werd. did you end up talking to your buddy about the diff i havE?

[neox.286]

yea I did, he's totally down...just gotta see if it is the diff first

should have an answer by next week on that one for ya (thumb)

[boostdprotegelx]

yea I did, he's totally down...just gotta see if it is the diff first

should have an answer by next week on that one for ya (thumb)

sweet! sounds good to me.

[orng1]

What's all this talk about diffs, there is no reason any of us should be going through this. There is to much talk of it being a weak part. If you modify your MSP it's almost a prerequisite to have a spare welded diff.

[neox.286]

it is even if you don't lol

f*cking mazdaspeed....always cutting at least ONE corner lol

[.mazda.speed.]

Nice build man,
WHY THE HELL ARE YOU GONNA SELL IT?
keep the car and enjoy it, even if its only on weekends.

[neox.286]

thanks bro

but I can't afford two cars....one car, no problem...two? not easily

I'll run it for a while though haha

[Outlawstar98]

Good luck with the build man, But that clutch looks almost like a Spec stage 3+, prob cause its blue hahaha.

Oh is the GT2860 and the GT2976 the same size (as of outer dimensions) and does it direct fit, or do you have to clock them? I really don't know haha.

[neox.286]

I don't believe the 28 and 29 are the same size, though I don't think I've ever heard of a 29....typo?

the 2860 and 2876 are not the same size internally...the 76 is much more powerfull....they both are about the same size though externally

the compressor housing on the gt2876 is larger than the 60 though if I recall, but it doesn't have fitment issues....otherwise they both both up perfectly with the stock setup

as for having to clock it, you likely will....most turbos aren't setup to have the compressor housing/turbine housing mounted in the same directions like the msp....but that's not a real big deal, it's like 7 bolts to loosen the compressor housing, clock it, then tighten those bolts back down

if you order from crossover auto though I'll bet the turbo comes clocked already for ya

[orng1]

I think it was a typo.

[Outlawstar98]

yes a typo lol

[orng1]

bump??? :confused:

[Ricktalife]

LOL way to let us know it's a typo about a year later.

[orng1]

Where is Neox anyways?