Intercooler

[SpeedBuild]

Hey I just needed some input on this. I can't seem to get the right answer and I've searched everywhere and some say FMIC is better for what I want to do and other say SMIC is better. Someone help me out here. I'm looking to upgrade from the stock intercooler on my car and I'm going to have some basic stuff done just like ssafc, intake, exhaust, bov...and possibly some other stuff but not too sure yet. I'm going to run the boost at 8 during normal driving and then when some guy tries me i'm going to turn it up to 10 max but never high than that. Is the the fmic better or the smic? thanks. (drive2)

[Wagonbacker9]

the general rule I've seen is that if you're not going over 10psi, that the upgraded SMIC is your best bet. FMIC is fine, just overkill.

[.mazda.speed.]

fmic also looks sooooo nice!

[Wagonbacker9]

fmic also looks sooooo nice!
+1

[terbow]

Essentially, if you want to keep it simple, the SMIC will perform very well in low boost, rare racing situations. Its also the least evasive install. However, it is NOT as efficient as a FMIC any way you slice it.

If you dont mind the bigger install then the FMIC will be more efficient, if you want to keep it simple, not race all the time, then go with the SMIC (based on your under 10 psi stipulation) as its easier to install and youll see a pressure increase as the stock intercooler is a joke, just make sure you get hard pipes otherwise you kinda negate the point of the upgraded intercoolers benefits. FMIC kits come with them, the SMIC doesnt.

[Wagonbacker9]

Essentially, if you want to keep it simple, the SMIC will perform very well in low boost, rare racing situations. Its also the least evasive install. However, it is NOT as efficient as a FMIC any way you slice it.

If you dont mind the bigger install then the FMIC will be more efficient, if you want to keep it simple, not race all the time, then go with the SMIC (based on your under 10 psi stipulation) as its easier to install and youll see a pressure increase as the stock intercooler is a joke, just make sure you get hard pipes otherwise you kinda negate the point of the upgraded intercoolers benefits. FMIC kits come with them, the SMIC doesnt.

I believe SU sells hardpipes with the SMIC as a kit.... but its retardedly expensive.

[MSpeedFreak03]

i have an ETS SMIC for grabbs if your interested i will give you the exclusive, PM me

[mike2225]

If you dont go the smic route i have a nice intercooler core that im trying to sell to pay for my new turbokit.PM me if interested

[SpeedBuild]

So essesntially I will get more power with the fmic no matter what way I look at it but i can stick with the smic if i am staying under 10psi. Any suggestions on any brands of smic's or fmic's? Thanks for the help guys

[mp3-79bronco]

get metallics fmic kit...only 375 shipped!!!

[Captain KRM P5]

So essesntially I will get more power with the fmic no matter what way I look at it but i can stick with the smic if i am staying under 10psi. Any suggestions on any brands of smic's or fmic's? Thanks for the help guys

we offer the SMIC and weaponR hard pipes which work great together;

http://siteground207.com/~protegeg/index.php?cPath=32_169

[Ricktalife]

i was planning on getting metallic's kit until i read that it takes place of the cai route.

[mp3-79bronco]

not like a CAI makes a worthwhile difference compared to a SRI

[Ricktalife]

only reason i got the cai was because the stock airbox had a crack in it and the cai was only 20 or 30 bucks more.

[zuku26]

The routing on Metallic's is the same as my MAM FMIC piping. It's a great route and you can just run a Short Ram.
as far as low boost and FMIC's go. Just get a smaller core FMIC and be done with it. I have seem zero lag difference with my set-up and am only running 6 PSI, grant it, it's the GT28RS.

[mp3-79bronco]

if you got the fmic you could just sell your cai and buy one of the sri's for an additional 45 from her.

[Ricktalife]

i've decided i'm just goin to buy the cs fmic already. in the spring that is. if i ever sell my f'ing car.

[terbow]

The routing on Metallic's is the same as my MAM FMIC piping. It's a great route and you can just run a Short Ram.
as far as low boost and FMIC's go. Just get a smaller core FMIC and be done with it. I have seem zero lag difference with my set-up and am only running 6 PSI, grant it, it's the GT28RS.

I noticed a huge difference on my mam vs smc with hard pipes. Mam's pipe routing has a ton of piping compared to a smic. I must be sensative cause I've heard from many others that there's no lag diff however I found the throttle responce to be slot slower. Even with the 28 rs I noticed a vast difference in it's lag vs the stocker.

Piping definately plays a huge role. But the stock smics location sucks so if your trying to keep it simple I lean toward the smic but it costs as much as a fmic cause of the additional hard pipe purchase. They are a must though. A Sri will work plenty fine vs a cai. I say the shorter the air pathtuebetter if u lee the Sri filter behind the headlight so u don't get hot ass air/

[Wagonbacker9]

The routing on Metallic's is the same as my MAM FMIC piping. It's a great route and you can just run a Short Ram.
as far as low boost and FMIC's go. Just get a smaller core FMIC and be done with it. I have seem zero lag difference with my set-up and am only running 6 PSI, grant it, it's the GT28RS.

if anything that would make your lag worse...

[zuku26]

I'm thinking that I may have less lag then the typical MAM FMIC kit cause I didn't use the MAM Core. I used a smaller one, for that exact reason.

[zuku26]

if anything that would make your lag worse...

Why would a smaller core make the lag worse??

[Wagonbacker9]

Why would a smaller core make the lag worse??

you've got your posts out of order. smaller core would make less lag, I was referring to the larger turbo, coupled with the extra interior volume of tubing and FMIC core causing more turbo lag...

[SpeedBuild]

Alright thanks. Yeah I was either thinking og metallics fmic kit for 375 shipped or the protegegarage smic with hard pipes kit. Still deciding but thanks for feedback

[SpeedBuild]

Btw if anyone has an fmic or smic for sale lemme know. I'm not looking to blow 800 on an intercooler, thats why I'm looking at my best options right now for the best price

[Captain KRM P5]

Alright thanks. Yeah I was either thinking og metallics fmic kit for 375 shipped or the protegegarage smic with hard pipes kit. Still deciding but thanks for feedback

if you need some guidance, be sure to PM me

[Ricktalife]

if you need some guidance, be sure to PM me

lol he'll guide you in whatever way leads to a sale for pg. jk ;D

<3 ken

[zuku26]

lol he'll guide you in whatever way leads to a sale for pg. jk ;D

<3 ken


Actually that isn't entirely true, he has guided me several times to non-PG sales, which is one reason why I attempt to find a reason to send him sales, either from me or others

[Wagonbacker9]

Actually that isn't entirely true, he has guided me several times to non-PG sales, which is one reason why I attempt to find a reason to send him sales, either from me or others

indeed, ken will always be the first one there to make a sale.... and he will always be the first one there to direct you to the best deal if he's not it.

[MSPYOUNGERS38]

the fmic will let the air cool down more over the smic simply due to size but as far as that nothing else would change much, i mean its night and day with any innercooler.

[Ricktalife]

Actually that isn't entirely true, he has guided me several times to non-PG sales, which is one reason why I attempt to find a reason to send him sales, either from me or others


indeed, ken will always be the first one there to make a sale.... and he will always be the first one there to direct you to the best deal if he's not it.

jeez guys i said i was kidding (lurk)

[Captain KRM P5]

its all good folks, feel the love

[Wagonbacker9]

I wasn't meaning anything negative by it... we're all friends here!

[SpeedBuild]

Alright yeah I was figuring I would have a faster spool with little to no lag with the smic being its smaller and less pipes but not too sure about anything that comes out of my mouth lol

[Wagonbacker9]

lol, I should learn yur caution.

[Ricktalife]

its all good folks, feel the love


I wasn't meaning anything negative by it... we're all friends here!

(k) :D

[zuku26]

jeez guys i said i was kidding (lurk)

I wasn't jumping down you at all. I saw you were joking. I was just telling the OP that Ken's advice can be trusted. I think wagon was doing the same.

[zuku26]

I guess while we are on this topic.
Like I had said...I have little to no lag running a larger turbo with a smaller FMIC Keep in mind I'm only boosting 6PSI. How about a smaller intercooler and a stock turbo, running the same 6PSI? Is there a ton of lag?

[Wagonbacker9]

a smaller turbo will mean less lag, as will lower boost. so, personally, I would say you should go with a SMIC, unless you just really wanna have FMIC, unless you plan on building the car up a lot you don't need it.