15mm eibach spacers installed w/ stock wheels

[builthatch]

long story short i've been trying to get these for a long time. Eibach has been out of stock for months, and probably won't get these in the states again. in the beginning of january, they thought maybe drivewire might have them in stock based on an order placed in september, i ordered them online through drivewire and in the process, i had to fight with and eventually do a chargeback against them for not refunding money. it was a harrowing experience. thanks to eibach and a resourceful inside sales rep, i had these sent from germany and they finally arrived today.

before-
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/builthatch/spacers/IMG_1714.jpg
after-
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/builthatch/spacers/IMG_1723.jpg

before-
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/builthatch/spacers/IMG_1713.jpg
after-
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/builthatch/spacers/IMG_1725.jpg

before-
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/builthatch/spacers/IMG_1183.jpg
after-
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/builthatch/spacers/IMG_1720.jpg

the spacers-
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/builthatch/spacers/IMG_1718.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/builthatch/spacers/IMG_1709.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/builthatch/spacers/IMG_1711.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/builthatch/spacers/IMG_1716.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/builthatch/spacers/IMG_1717.jpg

i'll get some better 'after' pics, but the wheels are significantly bumped out now. they do NOT rub under any circumstances; i drove around under all kinds of conditions and haven't rubbed once.

the setup this is equivelent to is a 18x7.5 42 with 225 tire

[Sport6]

Nice, running spacers always scares me.

How much did it cost for all 4?

[mr_mazda329]

I would like to know also. It's good that they are the studded type. They are practically worry free this way.

[strytnyne]

where did u get em?

[builthatch]

Nice, running spacers always scares me.

How much did it cost for all 4?

yeah, i was never really a fan of the whole spacer idea until eibach released the pro-spacers a few years back. i knew H&R had their trak spacers for a while, and with eibach releasing them, it legitimized the whole thing. eibach only makes awesome stuff, hehe.

re: cost, i can't say without potentially compromising things. i went through alot to get these and i don't want to cause any problems.

what i can say is that this site has a customer that is direct with eibach, jscspeed. Aaron@JSC is the user name. he might be able to find out exactly what this would cost if it's possible at this point. if you are willing to pay the extra for the shipping from germany, it might very well be worth it. it certainly is cheaper than a new set of wheels, especially if you are like me and like the stockers.

[Wastegate13]

You are my new best friend.

[CnoTataymo]

Interesting. But if they're 15mm spacers, wouldn't the offset now be +37 and not +42?

[Wastegate13]

Interesting. But if they're 15mm spacers, would the offset now be +37?

Uhh, yeah. (stash)

[builthatch]

Interesting. But if they're 15mm spacers, would the offset now be +37?

right! but does anyone buy 18x7 with a 37 offset? heck no!

i was just saying, a common well filling wheel combo is an 18x7.5 42, and most people end up using 225's, so considering all of that, this combination end up filling the wells in the same manner as that wider wheel, wider tire, and 42 offset

; )

[CnoTataymo]

But it does look better sitting flush with the fenders. But if you're lowered, man....

[builthatch]

But it does look better sitting flush with the fenders. But if you're lowered, man....

i'm running an eibach pro-kit, but not the one for the ms3. the one for the regular 3 which is lower when installed on the ms3.

[Remspeed3]

i'm running an eibach pro-kit, but not the one for the ms3. the one for the regular 3 which is lower when installed on the ms3. im running the Eibach Pro Kit as well and my ride height looks exactly like yours..bought them from JSCspeed and mine are for the MS3. Probably not much difference between the two.

[SingleFin1969]

Looks really good. This may have to be my next mod.

[daonly1around]

i'll have to look out for these when the hit the public

[Kindred]

Looks great.

[oem plus]

A buddy of mine runs a certified VW shop. I always hear of horror stories about spacers. He said he has NEVER had an issue with them as long as they were of good quality and hubcentric.

[builthatch]

A buddy of mine runs a certified VW shop. I always hear of horror stories about spacers. He said he has NEVER had an issue with them as long as they were of good quality and hubcentric.

yep!

this is 1000% correct. you won't have issues with H&R or Eibach UNLESS...there is crud on the hub not allowing them to sit properly on the hub face or hug the center bore properly. but, that's user error for sure.

[bacarl]

...i was just saying, a common well filling wheel combo is an 18x7.5 42, and most people end up using 225's, so considering all of that, this combination end up filling the wells in the same manner as that wider wheel, wider tire, and 42 offset
This is a purely aesthetic mod, right? Bumping up your scrub radius like that would potentially do nasty things to torque steer -- have you noticed anything like that?

[Yoo Shin]

Is this for looks only? I don't understand the point unless you're trying to gain clearance for wider tires for the track and/or clearance for bbk and coilovers.

[GoFast]

i would classify this as a mainly asthetic mod. But as pontiac says, wider is better. lol

[builthatch]

This is a purely aesthetic mod, right? Bumping up your scrub radius like that would potentially do nasty things to torque steer -- have you noticed anything like that?

yes, it is mainly for aesthetics, but not purely. the wider track is a nice plus; i like the stock wheels but didn't like how far they were in the wells, especially when combined with some negative camber.

while going wild could definitely potentially flip the neg scrub radius, with this minimal amount, the benefits from the wider track outweight the slight reduction in negative SR.

this is incredibly negligible compared to what some of you guys are doing with wheel offsets, hehe.

i've noticed nothing negative so far. i've mentioned it on another forum that i'm still trying to pick up what is going on, but the car just feels better in some capactity...i just need to quantify how and it's hard without back to back comparisons. i didn't expect that from only 30mm total change, but it's there. it might be some sort of phenomenon with wheel rate, but i doubt that because i believe that would make the car feel slightly 'softer'. i just need more time and unfortunately i put the car away last night after washing it to wade out this snow.

[Txsandman]

It looks like the wheels would now contact the tips of the old lugs instead of the flat surface of the rotor/spacer, or am I missing something? The fit looks great btw!

[Nliiitend1]

The stock lugs, If I'm not mistaken, protrude into the "void spaces" on the wheels' mating surfaces (the "pockets" in between the areas that immediately surround the lug holes)...Sorry, I'm having a hard time finding the words to explain what I'm talking about...

Some wheel designs may not allow the use of these spacers, as far as I can tell.

[builthatch]

The stock lugs, If I'm not mistaken, protrude into the "void spaces" on the wheels, mating surface (the "pockets" in between the areas that immediately surround the lug holes)...Sorry, I'm having a hard time finding the words to explain what I'm talking about...

Some wheel designs may not allow the use of these spacers, as far as I can tell.

exactly! you got it : )

most wheel designs allow for this.

Eibach has taken this into account for their spacers; if you are using a type 4 studded spacer for the stock wheel on a given application, you can be assured it will work.

[walti]

So what happened with you and drivewire? They don't have these in stock?

I wanna rock my stockers after it's powdercoated from time to time and this flush look is great.

[240ka]

wow those looks great. thats a must get

[builthatch]

So what happened with you and drivewire? They don't have these in stock?

I wanna rock my stockers after it's powdercoated from time to time and this flush look is great.

heh,...it wasn't pretty!

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123732513

evidently eibach will have them in stock again by 2/17 (i hope); so, at that point, eibach resellers like JSC will have easy access to them.


wow those looks great. thats a must get

thanks y0

[UHATEIT]

i put on 1/4 inch universal spacers, but they are not hubcentric. Others have done this as well. I like the outward protrusion of the wheel to look somewhat more flush, tho 1/4 inch isnt enough and surely 1/2 inch would be nicer but cannot fit on the stock lugs.

I get the vibrations that i dont like and seems like I am getting that feel of unbalanced tires/wheels due to this. I really want to keep the spacer look but want to lose the uncomfortable ride quality issues. I have installed the same style spacers on 3 of my other cars without issues, so I don't know why the speed 3 is having the weird ride quality with them. I assume its that they are not fully centered, but not sure how that would really make a difference, unless its because the bore/center isn't resting on the hub in the middle and keping it smooth? Any suggestions?

Otherwise I wouldnt mind buying some studded 1/2 inch spacers, just not sure if i can find them out there being hub centric or if that would even matter.

[builthatch]

i put on 1/4 inch universal spacers, but they are not hubcentric. Others have done this as well. I like the outward protrusion of the wheel to look somewhat more flush, tho 1/4 inch isnt enough and surely 1/2 inch would be nicer but cannot fit on the stock lugs.

I get the vibrations that i dont like and seems like I am getting that feel of unbalanced tires/wheels due to this. I really want to keep the spacer look but want to lose the uncomfortable ride quality issues. I have installed the same style spacers on 3 of my other cars without issues, so I don't know why the speed 3 is having the weird ride quality with them. I assume its that they are not fully centered, but not sure how that would really make a difference, unless its because the bore/center isn't resting on the hub in the middle and keping it smooth? Any suggestions?

Otherwise I wouldnt mind buying some studded 1/2 inch spacers, just not sure if i can find them out there being hub centric or if that would even matter.

this is exactly why eibach and H&R makes hub centric spacers. if you insist on using this type, you must use hub centric rings to adapt the hub bore of the spacers you have to the hub of your car. that won't guarantee that the spacers are even machined perfectly. there is a reason why generic non hub centric spacers are cheap as heck and the eibachs are expensive, you know what i mean y0 hehe

1/2" spacers are 3mm less than the spacers i use, so, that said, you should just get the spacers i use : )

[broncoblitz]

Wow those spacers really helped the look of the stock wheels alot!

[PCspeed3]

hey man could you PM me some info on these? I went on the Eibach website and they dont show spacers as an application for our car. Size, price, where purcahsed? -thanks. Car looks much better with the spacers.

[mspeed3420]

hey I just ordered these and it didn't come with what u used to tighten the spacer to the where the lugs would origionally screw on to (I dont know what theyre called but they look kinda like washers and screw on to keep the spacer stuck to the rotor). Did they mess up or do we have to go buy these?
Also, is this ganna rub with my bc coils? I can fit about a finger in between the tire and fender. Since I cant put on the spacers because I dont have all the parts, I cant lower it back down with the spacers on. It looks like its ganna stick out of the fender a good 1/2 inch to an inch instead of being flush with the fender like I want it to be but it might be just because its jacked up on one side of the car. any ideas? anyone who has coils and 15mm spacers? does it rub or stick out past the fender at all?

[ms3_mzr]

for those of you that don't know where to buy it (like me), go to the eibach
web site, and click dealer location. then go down to buy online. they're gonna give u a list of other sites. I took the time to look at all the sites, and only auto anything shopping and auto accessories garage had them. cause i want to buy aftermarket wheels, but i cant chill for awhile with the spacer. Hopefully this is useful. oh by the way bro, ur car looks sick with the spacer on the. thanks for the help.(2thumbs) (2thumbs) (2thumbs) (2thumbs)

[lestat13]

Holy negative camber Batman!!

[ms3_mzr]

hahahahaha.

[UHATEIT]

for those of you that don't know where to buy it (like me), go to the eibach
web site, and click dealer location. then go down to buy online. they're gonna give u a list of other sites. I took the time to look at all the sites, and only auto anything shopping and auto accessories garage had them. cause i want to buy aftermarket wheels, but i cant chill for awhile with the spacer. Hopefully this is useful. oh by the way bro, ur car looks sick with the spacer on the. thanks for the help.(2thumbs) (2thumbs) (2thumbs) (2thumbs)

I just tried doing this. There is a diagram with 8 different designs of these things! Crazy!

I want the ones exactly like the OP has, that screw on to the original studs and have studs built in. I have some basic 1/4 inch spacers and not being hub centric they vibrate and I get more road noise and would prefer these hub centric kind

When going through the links on the Eibach website I found this model# on Summit racing website: EIB-906150271 for 15mm spacers for the mazdaspeed3, but they are $139.96 for only 2 of them! You'd be spending like $300 shipped for all 4, which is ridiculous :(

[RichB]

would these cause rubbing issues?

[:: Gusto ::]

Wow That Looks Really Good!

[Munnugles]

ya these things look great.
i saw madvillians with 25mm as well and now im debating if i should do 25 or 15 when i get my coilovers. i have 225/40 tires and im wondering if it would rub if i pretty much go as low a 1 finger gap if not lower... anyone know?

[madvillian]

get the 25mm's pussaaaaay.

[SHAGwagn]

fix ur picss pusssayyyyyy so we can see what 25mm looks like!! :D

[Gmac03]

Currently running the 225 Falken 615's on the stock wheel. Anybody have the math figured out to know if they will rub with these 15mm spacers?

Gmac

[Wastegate13]

Currently running the 225 Falken 615's on the stock wheel. Anybody have the math figured out to know if they will rub with these 15mm spacers?

Gmac

It will be 20mm closer to the fender. Fronts should be more than fine, the rear will require a roll and some camber.

[SHAGwagn]

I just tried doing this. There is a diagram with 8 different designs of these things! Crazy!

I want the ones exactly like the OP has, that screw on to the original studs and have studs built in. I have some basic 1/4 inch spacers and not being hub centric they vibrate and I get more road noise and would prefer these hub centric kind

When going through the links on the Eibach website I found this model# on Summit racing website: EIB-906150271 for 15mm spacers for the mazdaspeed3, but they are $139.96 for only 2 of them! You'd be spending like $300 shipped for all 4, which is ridiculous :(


Those vibrating ones wouldnt happen to be the ones you were trying to sell me without telling me they vibrate would they? (bird)

its because of people like u why people get shot everyday. good luck with your sale.

[Gmac03]

It will be 20mm closer to the fender. Fronts should be more than fine, the rear will require a roll and some camber.


Damnit!

Gmac

[DanSpeed6]

The only thing is that it's almost 400$ just to have stock wheel flush to the fender, but it look realy nice :)