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AMS38U
01-30-2009, 11:57 PM
really curious of this AP thing ive been looking at it and telling myself no way not enough maps and all that good stuff but something keeps calling me back like a rat hole strip club with 1 hot stripper in it..
so my question is i have the cobb sri and turbo inlet, im really not planning on doin much more but motor mounts and may b the forge wastegate... would i benifit from the AP or am i better off with how i am
is it worth it
is it really that cool
coyfish
01-31-2009, 12:08 AM
Yeah an AP can benifit anyone from stock to full bolted on. I dont have mine yet but I cant wait. You still have plenty of easy bolts ons to do. You can do those while you think about the AP.
Test pipe = easy 15 min install
TMIC = easy 15 min install
bypass valve = 2 min install
All those would help too and are super easily installed / removed.
PCspeed3
01-31-2009, 01:17 AM
I just got mine today, the car pulls harder for sure. Much smoother and more powerful all the way up to 6K rpm. Works great as a boost gauge as well.
AMS38U
01-31-2009, 07:19 AM
well I cut out the two resos and that's prolly all I'm gonna be doin as far as exhaust not looking to get the turbo seals smokein any time soon LOL and I did get the hks bov,
I saw a YouTube video bout a cp-e tune or somethin kno anything about that
ms6acton
01-31-2009, 09:17 AM
from what i understand(read on here) cp-e is best if youre going big turbo build and ap is best if you are just doing small bolt ons.. do some searching and theres lots of threads about comparing the two
dread
01-31-2009, 11:17 AM
cp-e has a piggyback system that you have to tune yourself or pay someone to tune it. It costs a around 1000 for a new plug and play standback. The ap will be user tunable in 3-4 weeks.
coyfish
01-31-2009, 11:43 AM
only thing that affects turbo seals is the downpipe. Test pipe does nothing but removes the small cat in the middle of the car. If you dont like it . . . sell it. Its 100 bucks and 15 min to switch out. Just something for you to think about.
dread
01-31-2009, 02:14 PM
only thing that affects turbo seals is the downpipe. Test pipe does nothing but removes the small cat in the middle of the car. If you dont like it . . . sell it. Its 100 bucks and 15 min to switch out. Just something for you to think about.
That is not exactly true. DP's are not affecting the turbo seals, they are just improving the flow so that the smoke from oil that is burnt do to bad seals gets out of the exhaust. In other words the seals are bad with stock dp's but you don't realize it until you free up the exhaust. It is possible that you will see smoke with a race pipe if your seals are bad.
Element
01-31-2009, 11:51 PM
How does the AP work with non-Cobb mods?
speed3driver
02-01-2009, 12:17 PM
cp-e has a piggyback system that you have to tune yourself or pay someone to tune it. It costs a around 1000 for a new plug and play standback. The ap will be user tunable in 3-4 weeks.
Where did you hear the AP will be custom tunable in 3-4 weeks? Is that true? If it is.. thats awesome!!
dread
02-01-2009, 12:38 PM
haha I heard it on another forum from a guy who is testing the software. Christian has also told me that he is currently using the software and it will be released soon. They are already working on another more advanced software that should be released in the summer. Their is already an update for the ap that adds a virtual dyno feature.
mazdaspeed kid
02-04-2009, 04:57 PM
One of my buddies just ordered his AP along with a HKS Hi-Power Exhaust and he also has the HKS racing suction intake system. Will he be able to use any maps? If so which map do you recommend to use?
boostitupagain
02-04-2009, 09:52 PM
is it a good idea to install my cobb fmic and wait to get an ap or should both be done at the same timee?
GoFast
02-04-2009, 10:42 PM
haha I heard it on another forum from a guy who is testing the software. Christian has also told me that he is currently using the software and it will be released soon. They are already working on another more advanced software that should be released in the summer. Their is already an update for the ap that adds a virtual dyno feature.
holding breath(confused)
mazdasp33d
02-05-2009, 11:00 AM
not to hijack the thread.. but as mentioned above how does the AP work with a nano, and corksport exhaust? i read a post that someone was have problems with the AP on their nano, and im wondering how different could a cobb and cpe SRI be from each other
Sergius64
02-05-2009, 02:01 PM
So what's safer, having mods on without a Tune or with a Tune? Cause I'm seeing lots of threads on people blowing their motors with Cobb AP Tunes on Mazdaspeed forums. Since AP's Tune maps are self-explanatory as far as what mods are required for each map it seems like its not the case of people pushing beyond what the car should be able to handle... Yet I'm hearing here that having bunch of mods on while the ECU is on stock mode isn't good either.
mazdaspeed32007
02-05-2009, 04:06 PM
dont doa ton of mods w/o a tune. you will damage your motor plus you wont be able to tell what your motor is doing. if your motor is pushing a knock of like 8 and you dont know it then you cant fix it. if you have the ap you can adjust things to make your car not blow up. a tune is always good for your car esp in these because the factory settings of the ecu suck.
mazdaspeed kid
02-05-2009, 06:22 PM
So the Speed3 will not be capable of running the AP's maps with the HKS racing suction intake and HKS Hi-powered cat back exhaust?
dread
02-06-2009, 10:10 AM
sure it can, but your fuel trims may be off. Once access tuner race is released you will be able to calibrate the MAF sensor to the intake.
mazdaspeed kid
02-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Sorry for asking so many questions... But what map do you recommend using?
dread
02-07-2009, 11:55 AM
Probably stage 1+ sri would be best.
H3br3w_Ham3r
02-07-2009, 12:53 PM
sure it can, but your fuel trims may be off. Once access tuner race is released you will be able to calibrate the MAF sensor to the intake.
Is this supposed to let you do your own tunning and make your own maps? This is what I've been waiting for
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