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coolmazda5
01-26-2009, 10:59 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/community/_photos/november%202008/gasprices-sq.jpg

NEW ORLEANS — Gyrating gas prices are playing havoc on auto industry planners, who've been adding small cars to their lineups, even as customers are showing more interest again in bigger vehicles.

New Chrysler small cars expected from a deal with Italy's Fiat hatched last week won't arrive for up to two years, says Chrysler President Jim Press, but even if they were showing up now, it wouldn't matter much.

Press says the company's full-size Dodge Durango SUV is in the shortest supply among all the vehicles sold by Chrysler. Yet the automaker decided last year when gas prices were high to phase out the product out of fear buyers would shun it.

The turnabout "shows the fickleness of the market," says Press, speaking after a J.D. Power and Associates conference here for auto dealers.

Guessing what people want has been just as hard for dealers. AutoNation (AN), the country's largest dealer chain, struggled last summer to stock enough hot-selling fuel misers on its sales lots.

Back then, CEO Mike Jackson says, buyers were trading their Cadillac Escalade SUVs for Toyota Prius hybrids. Now Jackson says he's canceling orders for such smaller vehicles and ordering more trucks instead.

The change shows how fuel prices rule the car business. In May, 56% of the vehicles sold were cars, not trucks. By last month, the share of cars had fallen to 47%, according to Autodata.

Gas prices averaged $1.845 a gallon by Sunday, less than half their summer peak of $4.114.

The market is becoming "almost schizophrenic" for big or small car demand, says Tom Libby, analyst for Power Information Network. He cautions against writing off small vehicles.

"People are making comments like 'Prius is dead,' " he says, which isn't true.

Ford Motor (F) is adding a slew of small cars, including several derived from vehicles made by its European unit. General Motors (GM) has major small car plans, too.

Longer term, "The price of gas is going to go up," Ford Vice President Mark Fields says. Figuring out what buyers want amid wild gas price swings "is like trying to time the stock market."

Chrysler hopes its tentative deal with Fiat will give it extra ammo with Congress to get a second installment on its $7 billion federal bailout loan at the end of March. Press says the deal will help fill Chrysler's long-term need for stylish small cars.

He says Chrysler should be viable by spring — investing in new products and working toward repaying government loans.

Source:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2009-01-25-auto-buyers-big-cars_N.htm

coolmazda5
01-26-2009, 11:00 PM
(headshake

Flash5
01-26-2009, 11:04 PM
come on America, lets be smart here!

1sty
01-26-2009, 11:22 PM
Make me a small sedan/coupe/wagon that can somehow make my wofe not put liquid in the trash and more (Have a dump not trash pick up)
And I will buy it.
Until its a pickup for me. I cant even imagine an SUV with her pulling her shanagins.

Kymerik
01-26-2009, 11:26 PM
come on America, lets be smart here!

have we not learned anything? the majority of americans are freakin idiots...and because i know this...reading that americans are buying more big cars because gas prices are down doesnt surprise me one bit

tunersteve
01-27-2009, 11:30 PM
And all those people that are buying big vehicles that don't need them will be bitching again if gas jumps back up to $4 per gallon. Ignorance is an epidemic in the United States I swear.

seanmcsean
01-27-2009, 11:32 PM
*sigh*

And here I sit with my manual transmission station wagon, gloating.

Americans are stupid, but that saves more fun wagons for me :)

mountjonas
01-27-2009, 11:32 PM
but...but....how am i going to haul my child around without a suburban?!!!

seanmcsean
01-27-2009, 11:38 PM
With roof racks, bungee cords, and a child seat, you can accomplish anything.

coolmazda5
01-28-2009, 12:01 PM
And all those people that are buying big vehicles that don't need them will be bitching again if gas jumps back up to $4 per gallon. Ignorance is an epidemic in the United States I swear.

Yeah, that is the point. If you can afford the car at any gas price (i.e. Corvette collectible owners) or is for work (i.e. a Ford F-150), I don't care, but if gas prices climb up again and you see in the news people being interviewed at the pump next to a V8 Dodge Durango, that is BS:

"OMG, now I can only afford generics at the grocery store, no more Danone yogurt for my ONLY child, I have to take gas 10 bucks at a time, I'm afraid I'll run out of gas at anytime, car payments are not coming down either and no more weekend trips to the park, What am I going to do??" (blah)


but...but....how am i going to haul my child around without a suburban?!!!

Get a Mazda5.... oh, wait (lol2) ;)

Kain
01-28-2009, 12:02 PM
America... FUCK YEAH!

mikeyb
01-28-2009, 12:07 PM
Epic Fail....Come on high gas prices.

GoFast
01-28-2009, 12:09 PM
dumbasses

tunersteve
01-28-2009, 12:13 PM
Yeah, that is the point. If you can afford the car at any gas price (i.e. Corvette collectible owners) or is for work (i.e. a Ford F-150), I don't care, but if gas prices climb up again and you see in the news people being interviewed at the pump next to a V8 Dodge Durango, that is BS:

"OMG, now I can only afford generics at the grocery store, no more Danone yogurt for my ONLY child, I have to take gas 10 bucks at a time, I'm afraid I'll run out of gas at anytime, car payments are not coming down either and no more weekend trips to the park, What am I going to do??" (blah)



Get a Mazda5.... oh, wait (lol2) ;)

But that's part of the problem. The news doesn't go out and interview the people who are driving the economical cars that are still feeling the pinch, they just go after the 'mental giants' (as I like to call them) who go and buy big vehicles that they don't need.

I'm not going after people who have a reason for a truck/SUV. Hell, my parents went out and bought a brand new F350 V10 when they were practically giving them away. The flip side is that we've got a boat and a fifth wheel to haul, and its a secondary vehicle.