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blue-sun
01-26-2009, 11:35 AM
finally got pics of my x-mas/b-day gifts to myself:


4500k HID kit for the headlights, got the slim ballast kit from ddm tuning

also picked up Lumanics (sp?) yellow bulbs for the foglights and removed that metal tab around the lights. Sorry, no direct shots of the lights as it's still single digits here in IL.


I've had the yellow Lumanics foglight bulbs in my last 3-4 cars, they've always lasted and put out good light. =D

mx-p5
01-26-2009, 11:39 AM
Lookin good!

I am a HUGE fan of the 4XXXK range HID's and yellow fogs

Just trying to find the right set of foglights to go on my car for yellow fogs to rejoin my cars

blue-sun
01-26-2009, 11:43 AM
Thanks!

I had a 6k kit/yellow fogs in my MP3
http://blue-sun.net/Pics/MP3Lights/MP3Lights-Images/0.jpg

and previously my MR2 had 6k Headlights/3k HID fog lights/yellow lamin-x film on it (can't find the pics at the moment)

mx-p5
01-26-2009, 11:48 AM
I currently have 4300K Apexcone HID kit in my car, and had the PIAA plasma ION's in the stock fogs

but, i've got the MSP lip (foglight deletes fro the Pro5 are on currently) so no more fogs

Gotta find where I can mount mine on both cars


*edit* Very sexy MP3!!

blue-sun
01-26-2009, 11:51 AM
Thanks!

PCspeed3
01-26-2009, 10:12 PM
i removed my metal tabs too but I couldnt get them out of the hole so I just pushed them inward and the tab wedged in there perfectlly haha. Nice job man.

iredremix
01-26-2009, 10:59 PM
i have a similar set up .. i have 3000K HID fogs with yellow film and paint. looking good

peeaanuut
01-27-2009, 01:04 PM
i currently run the luminics yellow bulbs but I have the smoked rockblockers so the color comes out a little bit gold and there is really no usable light when in the drivers seat. I am hoping that the 3000k fogs will fix that.

hectik1
01-27-2009, 07:21 PM
I love the HID/yellow fog combo. Mine is 6000k/Nokya yellow fogs. Still need to remove the tabs.

oaklandopen
01-27-2009, 09:17 PM
those pics make 4500k look more like 6000k...nice though

blue-sun
01-28-2009, 01:35 PM
Here are some pics I took last night after taking garbage out and putting the car back in the garage.

First one is standing up straight at the sidewalk portion of my 35 foot driveway, second one is kneeling down.

speed3guy
01-28-2009, 02:32 PM
holy crap man!! Those things are bright as fuck!

sanblaster
01-28-2009, 02:42 PM
those look like they would blind the shit out of oncoming traffic david.

mx-p5
01-28-2009, 02:44 PM
It's the camera

I am guessing it is not bad in person

Larimer
01-28-2009, 04:16 PM
Any idea what wattage the stock HID's are? I may be interested in getting some matching fogs.

mx-p5
01-28-2009, 04:48 PM
if I had to guess, i'd say 35 watts?

I know that is the standard wattage of all the aftermarket kits

You COULD get a 55 watt kit and speed up global warming

blue-sun
01-28-2009, 05:53 PM
yah, it's the camera (iPhone) they really aren't that bright in person, I don't think anyways.

mdavis
01-28-2009, 06:13 PM
stockers are 35w

bf360
01-29-2009, 02:13 AM
those are really blue for 4500

red95_240sx
01-29-2009, 02:24 AM
looks real bloob

mx-p5
01-29-2009, 09:00 AM
those are really blue for 4500

it's the camera's auto whitebalance making it look blue

Shoot, i can get my 4300k to look super deep blue by messing with the settings.

Camera pics aren't always that great at showing color temps

blue-sun
01-29-2009, 11:22 AM
yah, these pics were all taken with the iPhone's built in camera, so it's not the greatest. When I first turn them on they have a blue tint to them for about 2-4 sec until they are warmed up and then they are white with a slight blue tint.

disclaimer:
when I ordered this kit from ddmtuning, I paid for a 35w regular sized ballast kit and I received a slim ballast kit. All the inner box had was a sticker for H7 and 4500k, so it's possible I received a 55w slim kit or a 35w slim kit. Either way, it took a while to get the kit (about a month) so I didn't wanna have to deal with returning/exchanging them.

mx-p5
01-29-2009, 11:25 AM
for a while, DDM was sending every one slim ballasts. Same thing happened with my kit

blue-sun
01-29-2009, 11:30 AM
for a while, DDM was sending every one slim ballasts. Same thing happened with my kit

sweet!

cucamelsmd15
01-29-2009, 11:41 AM
yah, these pics were all taken with the iPhone's built in camera, so it's not the greatest. When I first turn them on they have a blue tint to them for about 2-4 sec until they are warmed up and then they are white with a slight blue tint.

disclaimer:
when I ordered this kit from ddmtuning, I paid for a 35w regular sized ballast kit and I received a slim ballast kit. All the inner box had was a sticker for H7 and 4500k, so it's possible I received a 55w slim kit or a 35w slim kit. Either way, it took a while to get the kit (about a month) so I didn't wanna have to deal with returning/exchanging them.

55w would have toasted your fuse pretty quickly. ;)

DDM's policy is that if they dont have the full size, instead of making you wait, you get the upgrade to slim at no charge.

drledford93
01-29-2009, 09:33 PM
So, can anyone get me up to speed as to why this mod needs to be done? Just brighter lights? Is that it?

I had hella H7's on my first gen Miata years ago and loved them. If I could get the equivalent in the MS3, I'd be in heaven (I have profound problems seeing at night).

Thanks for not flaming the noob...

Daniel

cucamelsmd15
01-29-2009, 09:39 PM
By removing the attenuator from the light, you allow about 60% more light to hit the reflector, resulting in a wider, brighter beam. Its definitely noticeable when the fogs are aimed properly (i.e. about half of your lowbeam headlight distance).

Why Mazda decided to put those in there is beyond me....

Larimer
01-30-2009, 06:37 AM
Any idea what wattage the stock HID's are? I may be interested in getting some matching fogs.

I was going to go with the 35w's if I did this, I was talking more about the bulbs. Are they around 4-5000k? I just want the fogs to match the stock HID's color wise.

mx-p5
01-30-2009, 08:47 AM
4300K is OEM color temp

blue-sun
01-30-2009, 01:42 PM
It's gonna get above freezing this weekend, so I hope to give the car a proper wash and get some new pics up, including of the lights with a real camera. =D

oaklandopen
01-30-2009, 04:32 PM
By removing the attenuator from the light, you allow about 60% more light to hit the reflector, resulting in a wider, brighter beam. Its definitely noticeable when the fogs are aimed properly (i.e. about half of your lowbeam headlight distance).

Why Mazda decided to put those in there is beyond me....

if you've tried this did you attempt to look straight at your car at night with one off and the other on, just to compare? that little tab is pretty odd. but it's nothing like those eclipses that look like the headlights are holding a giant contact lens in front of the bulb

blue-sun
01-30-2009, 04:43 PM
if you've tried this did you attempt to look straight at your car at night with one off and the other on, just to compare? that little tab is pretty odd. but it's nothing like those eclipses that look like the headlights are holding a giant contact lens in front of the bulb

I did the DS tab a while ago when I installed the HID's, I was running low on time that day so I only got the one done (I dropped it inside the housing, so I had to work to get it out)

I was driving behind my wife last week (she was dropping off her car @ bodyshop) and she told me that my DS fog was WAY brighter than the PS one.

cucamelsmd15
01-30-2009, 04:44 PM
if you've tried this did you attempt to look straight at your car at night with one off and the other on, just to compare? that little tab is pretty odd. but it's nothing like those eclipses that look like the headlights are holding a giant contact lens in front of the bulb

I compared mine to another local when I still had the stock 9005 bulbs in. Head on there was little to no difference. The depth of the fixture itself and the height from the ground makes it more or less impossible for it to present a significant amount of glare unless you aimed them straight up.

blue-sun
01-30-2009, 04:45 PM
I will say that in getting the tab out, I removed the foglight bulb from the bumper and didn't realign it until when I put the yellow bulb in and it was wayyyyyy off (alignment wise) before, aimed too high.

mx-p5
01-30-2009, 04:52 PM
not MS3 related, but, i bent the tab up in teh stock Pro5 foglights, and, hoonstly, performed WAY better without blinding everyone still

iredremix
01-31-2009, 12:00 AM
i think they're 35w..

blue-sun
02-09-2009, 11:47 AM
Some better pics (not with a cell camera) of the 4500k HID's and yellow foglight bulbs with the tabs removed.

http://blue-sun.net/Details/MS309Feb/Images/10.jpg

http://blue-sun.net/Details/MS309Feb/Images/11.jpg

http://blue-sun.net/Details/MS309Feb/Images/12.jpg

UHATEIT
02-09-2009, 02:07 PM
WOW that makes me think twice about the 4500K hid. I got the 8000K and its very similar looking in the blue/factor as yours, but certainly doesn't light up the road as bright as yours.

I also have the 3000K luminics yellow bulbs and they are bright but also not as bright as yours, this makes me want to try to take that ring out from inside of the light! I hope it isn't too hard to do that

blue-sun
02-09-2009, 02:18 PM
WOW that makes me think twice about the 4500K hid. I got the 8000K and its very similar looking in the blue/factor as yours, but certainly doesn't light up the road as bright as yours.

I also have the 3000K luminics yellow bulbs and they are bright but also not as bright as yours, this makes me want to try to take that ring out from inside of the light! I hope it isn't too hard to do that

yup, I got the 4500k cuz I got HID for being able to see the road, not for the bling factor. they light up nicely!

The ring isn't terrible to remove. Roll the tab in on itself and then bend up/down until it breaks and then pull them out. Make sure they are rolled small enough to pull out easily. . .I made this mistake on my fist one and ended up dropping it in the housing, had to remove it from the bumper to get it out. 2nd time was easier.

UHATEIT
02-09-2009, 03:31 PM
yup, I got the 4500k cuz I got HID for being able to see the road, not for the bling factor. they light up nicely!

The ring isn't terrible to remove. Roll the tab in on itself and then bend up/down until it breaks and then pull them out. Make sure they are rolled small enough to pull out easily. . .I made this mistake on my fist one and ended up dropping it in the housing, had to remove it from the bumper to get it out. 2nd time was easier.

I want to take mine out and see if it makes it brighter, I heard that if you upgrade to the HID kit for 3000K in the fogs you need to remove that metal ring. I'm not sure it will make that much difference tho, this is mine with the ring still inside, it seems to light up the light anyways i believe:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/3/web/3087000-3087999/3087711_47.jpg

Sport6
02-09-2009, 04:13 PM
What are the tabs in the foglights that people talk about actually do? and removing them does what?

blue-sun
02-09-2009, 05:21 PM
What are the tabs in the foglights that people talk about actually do? and removing them does what?

When you put the foglight bulbs in, there are metal shields/tabs that run the lenght of the actual bulb in the foglight and it blocks the light output of the bulbs. Removing these shields gives more light output from the bulb.

get on the ground and look at your foglights, you'll see a dark piece of metal around the bulb, you won't see alot of the actual bulb, just the end piece. On mine all you see if bulb.

Here's a quick MS Paint (the yellow part = bulb since I have a yellow bulb) picture of shield (top pic,)/no shield (bottom)

seattleMS3
02-09-2009, 05:56 PM
what size bulb did you guys buy? i've heard 9006 and H11

blue-sun
02-09-2009, 06:26 PM
what size bulb did you guys buy? i've heard 9006 and H11

Mine is 9006.

nursewarren
02-25-2009, 01:14 PM
So blue sun, you also had to install an HID kit with the fog lights? Or did you simply replace the bulbs?

blue-sun
02-25-2009, 02:51 PM
So blue sun, you also had to install an HID kit with the fog lights? Or did you simply replace the bulbs?

The headlights are HID's, the foglights are just yellow bulbs with that shield removed.

nursewarren
02-25-2009, 07:40 PM
Nice. Thank you sir!