HKS SSQV recirc hose kink fix

[Kain]

Just a bit of background, I have a CP-E CAI and recently purchased the Mazdaspeed3-specific HKS SSQV (part # 71004-AZ008), which has an angled flange to help clear the TMIC shroud. I attempted to install it in recirc, but I couldn't get the stock recirc hose to fit without kinking, so I purchased a new one from SU. The fitment was OK, but as the pictures below show, the recirc hose still had a kink and the shroud was touching the SSQV. I figured over time that the hose would apply pressure to the valve due to the kink, but with the shroud keeping it in place, something would have to give (bolts, gaskets, clamps) in time.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Kain/hks_ssqv_kink_fix_01.jpg

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Kain/hks_ssqv_kink_fix_02.jpg



So after doing some research, some people use a copper pipe to alleviate the problem, so off to Home Despot I went. Instead of a straight pipe, I bought a 45 degree, 1" copper elbow and some 1 3/4" hose clamps for $10.

http://www.fdsons.com/images/plumbing/copper_45deg_street_elbow.jpg

I hacked up the stock recirc hose because it has a natural bend on one end, and used the copper elbow to angle the hose towards the inlet. Works great, doesn't rub against the intake like before, and the SSQV isn't touching the TMIC shroud any longer. No more kinks either, even drives a bit better now.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Kain/hks_ssqv_kink_fix_03.jpg

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Kain/hks_ssqv_kink_fix_04.jpg

[Speedmoney]

Kain, is that flange from cp-e?

[Kain]

Kain, is that flange from cp-e?

Mazdaspeed3-specific HKS SSQV (part # 71004-AZ008)
It's a complete kit (valve, flange, recirc fitting) direct from HKS. They released it a few months ago.

[Speedmoney]

Thank you for the info.

[954_ms3]

All i did was rotate the recirc hose a bit and BAM, no more kink.

Edit: I don't have the angled flange so that could be why

[aaronc7]

ha, i was going to do this, i even had the copper thing. but i ended up just getting a different valve

[Kain]

All i did was rotate the recirc hose a bit and BAM, no more kink.

Edit: I don't have the angled flange so that could be why

More than likely. I tried every which way to make the stock recirc hose line up but couldn't. With the copper elbow, I could rotate and adjust the hose to make it fit perfectly.

[john blutarski]

nice, thanks for the info

[essejkcamraw]

ghetto (2thumbs)

[zoomdoom]

I think S*T*R*E*E*T U*N*I*T sells silicone hoses for this and you can pick different colors for bout 20 bones. (burnout)

[Kain]

I think S*T*R*E*E*T U*N*I*T sells silicone hoses for this and you can pick different colors for bout 20 bones. (burnout)
I too don't bother to read the first post.

[zoomdoom]

That was with the SU tube lol that fits horrible n/m

[GoFast]

I too don't bother to read the first post.

i lawled

[Kain]

That was with the SU tube lol that fits horrible n/m

Not horrible, just OK. The problem is that there are so many BOV/intake combos, it's hard to guarantee a perfect fit. I've been working on cars long enough to almost never expect a flawless install.

[stageup]

recirc hose was a major pain in the ass for me also
i rotated that hose every which way and could not get it to stop kinking
i ended up doing the lowes 1" copper pipe thing also
and the ssqv is still angled down a little, it's not horizontal
because it's pushing up on my cobb intake.

i bought the su silicone recirc hose also, but haven't messed with it yet
i just cut the stock hose

[1speed3]

Silly its not CP-E its KP-E (Kain Performance Engineering)

(yippy)now people wont complain about the kink(yippy)

[steven88]

nice fix!

[DaleNixon]

I wonder if I could do this with my setup. My Cobb turbo inlet seems to have put the Cobb intake a bit lower in the engine bay. Now it contacts the recirc hose :\

Between this, my slightly kinked boost tubes from the ETS intercooler, and the fact that my cobb intake looks like it's starting to form an elliptical shape where it meets the inlet, I can barely sleep at night :(

[bova80]

if its forming an elliptical shape its because you have the hose clamp to tight. Also because cobb sent thin metal sleeves and they seem prone to bend from the clamp.

[DaleNixon]

Yea :(

I don't know whether I should try to bend the sleeve back or just leave it be. It doesn't seem to be getting any worse.

[AllLostThings]

I got a recirc hose froM SU also and realized it wouldn't work very well when I tried to install it. I really wish it had the slight bend in itthat the stock one has.

[martyxcore]

i dont think the air that comes from your bov is enough so that a little divergence in the flow would hurt anything but easy fix no less. i see your like a clean engine bay, a nice new red silicone recirc hose sure would look nice in there.

[DaleNixon]

if its forming an elliptical shape its because you have the hose clamp to tight. Also because cobb sent thin metal sleeves and they seem prone to bend from the clamp.

Actually the elliptical shape is coming from the bracket that bolts next to the battery box. If I disconnect that bracket, the intake pops out into its natural position. Weird. I would run without the bracket, but my Amsoil filter wouldn't fit that way.

[blackdragon0731]

im glad this threads on the first page.. im actually gonna go drive there now :) my damn vacuum hose has a hole in it from the hood pushing it against the metal from the HKS SSQV.... ive tried a few different solutions to no avail, finally got around to looking for a fix and voila, here you are :D thanks Kain.

[blackdragon0731]

sorry for the double post but that fix worked like a charm! my SSQV is clearing the hood no problem and aside from the fact that my recirc hose is rubbing on my intake which is fine, there arent any kinks in either and as a whole it looks great! thanks!

[Kain]

Win.

[blackdragon0731]

fo sho. still need an access port cause my airflow and such is all messed up as far as my ECU is concerned. lol

[Huligan]

sorry for the double post but that fix worked like a charm! my SSQV is clearing the hood no problem and aside from the fact that my recirc hose is rubbing on my intake which is fine, there arent any kinks in either and as a whole it looks great! thanks!

thread necro'd

but yes, the same shit happened to mine after i installed it a few days ago. gotta fix it tomorrow :(

[8.5MS3]

thread necro'd

but yes, the same shit happened to mine after i installed it a few days ago. gotta fix it tomorrow :(

thanks for bumping this, just picked up an hks and spent an hr in the 20* cold trying to figure this shit out

[NCZ13]

pics dont work anymore =(

[Kain]

pics dont work anymore =(

That's because I have a new fix (http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123765558).

[NCZ13]

Oooo I like this.

I had the valve out again today, and was tempted to cut the stock line, but hesitiated for when/if i want to go back to the stock valve. This definitely seems like a great option.

Thanks