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cre3
01-03-2009, 03:35 PM
any one heard about a 2.7l mazda speed 3 engine put on a pg5

MTV
01-03-2009, 03:43 PM
nope, dont think it'll fit

Dparks7
01-03-2009, 03:50 PM
the mazdaspeed 3 engine is a 2.3 not a 2.7

niky
01-06-2009, 05:28 AM
Hey, any swap is mathematically possible. Got an extra 50k dollars for the custom wiring and subframe fabrication?

(hand)

Neither do I... (cabpatch)

justanothermp5
01-06-2009, 07:59 AM
2.7l? lol no such 4 cylinder exists

Benji
01-06-2009, 10:58 AM
That's not true the 09 Highlander has a 2.7L four

Rockin03mp5
01-06-2009, 11:17 AM
no such mazda engine exists

P-Funk!
01-07-2009, 02:18 PM
...and what is a pg5?

'Can I put a Chevy 350 in a Protege?' No.
'Can I put a Nissan 35DQ in a Protege?' No.
'Can I put a V6 ____ in a Protege?' No.
'Can I put a Protege 2.0 in a Protege?' Yes.

'Can I get more hp/$ by just adding turbo to the exisitng motor than the anguish of swapping in another motor (see above)? Yes.

Benji
01-07-2009, 03:49 PM
Can I put a V6 KLZE in a Protege?' YES!

But you are right a turbo is much more practical

Rockin03mp5
01-08-2009, 10:38 AM
^true

pfiver
01-08-2009, 07:34 PM
...and what is a pg5?

'Can I put a Chevy 350 in a Protege?' No.
'Can I put a Nissan 35DQ in a Protege?' No.
'Can I put a V6 ____ in a Protege?' No.
'Can I put a Protege 2.0 in a Protege?' Yes.

'Can I get more hp/$ by just adding turbo to the exisitng motor than the anguish of swapping in another motor (see above)? Yes.

.....ewww why would you want to put a 350ci in a p5, we all know if you go american you have to dump a 5.0 its just so much more fun, just like in the rx7s

DuRWooD
01-09-2009, 02:06 AM
Can I put a V6 KLZE in a Protege?' YES!

But you are right a turbo is much more practical

KLZE + turbo ? (evil)

bgibb68
01-09-2009, 02:12 AM
KLZE + turbo ? (evil)

i was waiting for you to chime in with that shity grin

niky
01-09-2009, 04:27 AM
...and what is a pg5?

'Can I put a Chevy 350 in a Protege?' No.
'Can I put a Nissan 35DQ in a Protege?' No.
'Can I put a V6 ____ in a Protege?' No.
'Can I put a Protege 2.0 in a Protege?' Yes.

'Can I get more hp/$ by just adding turbo to the exisitng motor than the anguish of swapping in another motor (see above)? Yes.

Oh, come on.... if you can put an LS1 in a Civic, a Chevy 350 in a Protege should be a piece of cake.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/730443-newbie-ls1-but-not-your-typical-car.html
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j90/highpsimr2/IMAGE_147.jpg

On a more practical note... you can put a Nissan VQ35DE into a Sentra:
http://www.fi-r.net/images2/VQSpecV.jpg
The only additional difficulty with the Protege over this swap is the additional fabrication for the mount kit and the complete custom wiring, which would either cost a lot or require you to get on your back under the dashboard for a few weeks.

Of course, neither approach is logical... or cheap. But the answer to the "can X engine be put into X car" is almost never "no."

The only problem I see with the Mazdaspeed3 motor is the complexity of the ECU. You would likely have to resort to a standalone box to get it working.

Captain KRM P5
01-09-2009, 04:49 AM
there is no standalone on the market thats going to effectively control the direct injection system.

there are so many reasons not to even consider this swap. the engine sits reverse of the protege one - intake in the front, exhaust in the back, etc. custom motor mounts would be a must. axles and transmission likely aren't a fit. the parts and engine itself are going to set you back a fair penny. ok, a fair few thousand dollars.

honestly, in my opinion, the whole "engine swap" approach to anything with these cars is pretty meritless when you look at it from the standpoint of results per dollars spent. build the engine, turbo the car and nine times out of ten you'll have spent less and be making more power than any motor you are going to swap into this car. plus, with the perhaps exception of the KLZE v6, there aren't any engines that drop right in. we sadly do not own hondas in this respect.

Rockin03mp5
01-09-2009, 10:01 AM
KLZE + turbo ? (evil)

u are gonna turbo that thing!

crazy son of a

P-Funk!
01-09-2009, 12:31 PM
there is no standalone on the market thats going to effectively control the direct injection system.

there are so many reasons not to even consider this swap. the engine sits reverse of the protege one - intake in the front, exhaust in the back, etc. custom motor mounts would be a must. axles and transmission likely aren't a fit. the parts and engine itself are going to set you back a fair penny. ok, a fair few thousand dollars.

honestly, in my opinion, the whole "engine swap" approach to anything with these cars is pretty meritless when you look at it from the standpoint of results per dollars spent. build the engine, turbo the car and nine times out of ten you'll have spent less and be making more power than any motor you are going to swap into this car. plus, with the perhaps exception of the KLZE v6, there aren't any engines that drop right in. we sadly do not own hondas in this respect.
^This is what i was trying to express.

niky
01-10-2009, 11:50 AM
Errh, scrap the direct injection system, or just tune it as regular and don't bother trying for the ultra-lean burn the stock system is capable of? It might lower power output a bit, but there should be no reason you can't get it to work... in a glug-glug-sputter kind of way.

Custom-build a tubular front subframe and transplant the whole engine-drivetrain package, including the Mazdaspeed3 front suspension. Might as well get the radiator, too, while you're at it. Bolt the fenders, hood and bumper onto this. Watch the clearances... no way in hell the top mount intercooler is going to fit under the Protege hood...

Heck, if you transplant enough of the MS3... (including dashboard?) maybe you can get the stock box to work? Or would you need to transplant the rear wheels, hubs and brakes, too, so the Vehicle Stability Assist system doesn't throw a hissy fit?

It's not impossible. Just utterly, utterly... insane. Maybe $50k-$100k worth of insane (cost of donor car and work, not including swap car) I agree, building and turbocharging a Protege engine for over 300 hp is probably going to be ten times cheaper... hahaha...